Install springs now are later?

[MazdaTree]

I was wondering if I should install my springs before winter (now) or right after winter?
I have the Tein S-techs

I know its a low drop but I have a friend with a very low lude and he still drives it in winter so I know its possible. I just wanna hear what you guys have to say about it, give me some advice:D
tia:)

[Whos ur dadd]

There\'s a lotta driving left before the snow starts to fly. If you\'re not worried about clearance, why wait? There aren\'t that many days of super deep snow...

[bluntman]

He\'s right, you\'re looking at least 4 more months before the white stuff begins to fall. Either way, those springs are going to see the cold weather sooner or later. DO IT NOW!!! LET\'S SEE IT AT THE NEXT MEET!!! ;)

[CelestSpeed3]

Just do it now, whether they see winter this year or next year will make no difference.

[TheProfessor]

If it were me I\'d wait.....typically we don\'t get snow until late December but you\'ve seen the weather this year :sarc

[chaser]

bluntman said my points ;)

[billyfo]

is it the same poll wtom did last yr?:D

do it now and you won\'t be regreted. I hope I had $$ now, so I can also buy myself a set.:(

[wtom]

Originally posted by billyfo


is it the same poll wtom did last yr?:D



MazdaTree, Doooooooooooooooooooooooo it!!!!!

[FLIPDADY]

Yeah do it! You got 2 brand new axles.

So you have nothing to worry about.

[3Gz]

IF SENSIBLE, YOU\'D WAIT \'TIL SPRING ANYWAYS. AS A WINTER RALLY DRIVER, I KNOW THAT NOT JUST THE GROUND CLEARANCE BUT ALSO THE SOFT SPRINGS WILL GIVE YOU BETTER PERFORMANCE IN THE WINTER. SO WHY RUSH TO GET POORER PERFORMANCE FOR THE SEASON.

SURE THE STIFFER SUSPENSION WILL GIVE YOU SOME PROTECTION TO BOTTOMING, BUT THAT WOULD BE MORE THAN CANCELLED OUT BY THE LOWERING. IN SNOW YOU CAN\'T ALWAYS TELL WHAT YOU\'D BE HITTING.


BUT THAT ALL PRESUMES YOU ARE BEING SENSIBLE

[majic]

maybe your keyboard is black and have some trouble locating the key..

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[FLIPDADY]

Just installed my S-Techs on Saturday at Speedtech and I must say the car looks mint! So do your springs now Andrew!

[bubba1983]

Originally posted by FLIPSPEED


Just installed my S-Techs on Saturday at Speedtech and I must say the car looks mint! So do your springs now Andrew!

PICS

[FLIPDADY]

Pics will be up tomorrow. I went crazy and pulled off the side moldings and slapped on an Axela badge. Still have to put on the sok07 deadpedal.

[Kevin@nextmod]

I\'m picking up my car today and i\'m seeing if i can bring in my car to skoo and lower it for free with my instructors help. BTW i\'m lowering with H-tech. Prokit dont give me low enough drop and S-tech is too low.

[MazdaTree]

Originally posted by FLIPSPEED


Just installed my S-Techs on Saturday at Speedtech and I must say the car looks mint! So do your springs now Andrew!

I\'m itching to do it I just want to get this clicking axel finished with fist so I don\'t any problems with the dealership.
ps how much does speedtech charge? hows the ride and camber?
LET ME SEE THE PICS!!!!!:D

[FLIPDADY]

The price for install is $120 cash only of course. My 3 was the first one they dropped so I was a little bit nervous when I dropped it off. Dropped the car off at noon and they called me an hour later to let me know the car was ready. I\'ll post some pics up tomorrow.

If you want to contact them the number is (416)293-6887 ask for Sherman or Andy.

[///M]

Yeah let\'s see some pics. How\'d you like them so far?

[FLIPDADY]

Originally posted by autoexe


Yeah let\'s see some pics. How\'d you like them so far?
They\'re great C, the car looks more aggressive sitting low. You fell the road more of course but that\'s what you\'d expect with a drop that low.

[-RJ3-]

When I got my car lowered, it was during winter just 3 weeks before spring. Although my drop is 1.4F 1.2R, it hugs like a beast in winter. But again your drop is reasonably low so I think I would wait. unless you want a hard piece of ICE nail your front bumper I\'d wait.

However, I agree with bluntman, if this setup is going to be all season, might as well get them installed while you have new axels, becuause its going to experience winter sooner or later.

BTW, I actually voted for no, theres no in -between :sarc

[MazdaTree]

who got the bump stops cut?
who left them stock?

[FLIPDADY]

Mine were not cut.

[MazdaTree]

whats the point of cutting them?

[bubba1983]

don\'t cut them...geez, if your gonna do something, do it right, they are there for a reason....just plEASE don\'t cut them

[majic]

Originally posted by bubba1983


don\'t cut them...geez, if your gonna do something, do it right, they are there for a reason....just plEASE don\'t cut them

proof?? why not enlighten us and tell us what they are for and why not to cut them.. your blanket statement \'do it right\' is useless.. tell us why.. isn\'t this the whole reason for this forum? :sarc

Andrew, djltoronto (http://torontomazda3.com/forum/read.php?TID=2828) cut his and he seems to be experienced and know what he\'s talking about.. i would ask more people and search around to see where you\'d make the cuts for best performance/ride quality. Alternatively, just follow the instructions that are provided by TEIN (as sabio and djltoronto say they are avialable)

[MazdaTree]

I\'ll see what tha auto shop mech does.... cuz the tein instuctions says to cut them...

[CelestSpeed3]

Mazdatree my garage is waiting for you car so we can put the springs on. If you want we can put them on Sunday.


The reason for cutting the bumpstops is to increase the shock travel. When you lower the car the shock travel is lowered, therebuy cutting the bumpstop allows the stock to have the same travel as stock. Also when the car rides on the bumpstop, the bumpstop acts as a spring, and the combined spring rate of the Tein springs and the bumpstops add up to be very harsh. You handling will also not be very pretictable since once you hit/ride on the bumpstop the cars dynamics are affected. It\'s a lose lose situation, if you lower the car and leave them alone, you will lose shock travel (bad for handling), and will now have a progressive spring (bad for handling, and odd ride comfort). Also with prolonged driving on a lowered car with the bumpstops cut, the bumpstops will eventually crack, and be worthless anyway. I encourage the members who have their cars lowered and have not cut or removed the bumpstops to check and see what condiction they are in.

[TheProfessor]

If you cut the bumpstops then a few years later decide to \'raise\' your car, will them being cut have an adverse affect on the stock suspension?

[CelestSpeed3]

I\'m not sure, I would recommend getting news ones though. The only thing I can forsee with running a stock suspension system with cut bump stops is an increase in shock wear. But if you are lowering your car than you will have increased shock wear anyway.