cruising speed on winters

[firstmazda]

Just wondering,
on a frigid but DRY winter day when there\'s no ice or anyting on the roads
what speed do you guys cruise at?
i know it\'ll wear your tires quick if you go too fast but is there
anything different with winters that will compromise saftey?

when it\'s dry out, i often forget i\'m on winters \'cause the traction is sooo
much better than my RS-As (some of you might\'ve seen my pics (\"http://torontomazda3.com/forum/read.php?TID=4454\") :p )
and i find myself cruising at 140ish.

Ray

[MajesticBlueNTO]

188km/h...damn limiter

[FLIPDADY]

If I\'m in a hurry between 120 to 140.

For some reason I get sh***y gas mileage.:D

[SGT06]

cruising at 140ish.

I did 140ish on snow covered road and it felt fine.:)


188km/h...damn limiter

I still haven\'t figured out why they put the limiter on the 3. Doesn\'t it make the car more expensive ? :sarc

[FLIPDADY]

Originally posted by SGT06
I still haven\'t figured out why they put the limiter on the 3. Doesn\'t it make the car more expensive ? :sarc


Makes the car more dangerous too.

[wtom]

On dry, clear roads I will drive as if it was summer. Kumho KW17 on black steelies. On the highway, same thing. Try to stay off the 407 when you\'re on winters.

[majic]

hakka 2 on an accord 205kph :)

[mypatpat]

Originally posted by wtom


On dry, clear roads I will drive as if it was summer. Kumho KW17 on black steelies. On the highway, same thing. Try to stay off the 407 when you\'re on winters.

Whats wrong with driving on 407 on winters? Something with the road?

[billyfo]

most part or may be whole part of 407 is using concrete, your winters won\'t last long.

[wtom]

Originally posted by mypatpat

Whats wrong with driving on 407 on winters? Something with the road?

Nothing wrong with driving on the 407, just that snow tires tend to wear down a bit quicker if you frequent the 407 with them on. The ETR is made of concrete; much harder material than your normal asphalt road. In addition to this harder material, the surface is not smooth, for traction purposes, but it \"eats\" away at the softer snow tires quicker than normal.

[MajesticBlueNTO]

Originally posted by wtom



Originally posted by mypatpat

Whats wrong with driving on 407 on winters? Something with the road?

Nothing wrong with driving on the 407, just that snow tires tend to wear down a bit quicker if you frequent the 407 with them on. The ETR is made of concrete; much harder material than your normal asphalt road. In addition to this harder material, the surface is not smooth, for traction purposes, but it \"eats\" away at the softer snow tires quicker than normal.

Left pic = ~24,000km, >90% of that on the 407
Right pic = ~5,000 or 8,000km mostly city

http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/1/web/337000-337999/337094_79_full.jpg

[gigileung]

I think that 204kph should be only tried on a track.

[Broli]

my best on the winters has been like 170

but i tend to keep it at 140ish for cruising speeds,

[FLIPDADY]

Originally posted by Broli


my best on the winters has been like 170

but i tend to keep it at 140ish for cruising speeds,


So you\'re the f****r who cut me off yesterday!




















J/K - It was some ****face in an RX-8.

[Junior]

Originally posted by MajesticBlueN

188km/h...damn limiter

make sure your snows are rated to cruise at them high speeds. :sarc

[MajesticBlueNTO]

Originally posted by Junior



Originally posted by MajesticBlueN

188km/h...damn limiter

make sure your snows are rated to cruise at them high speeds. :sarc

H-speed rated to 210km/h :p

[Junior]

Originally posted by MajesticBlueN



Originally posted by Junior



Originally posted by MajesticBlueN

188km/h...damn limiter

make sure your snows are rated to cruise at them high speeds. :sarc

H-speed rated to 210km/h :p

yeah, that\'s good if you have a H rated tire.

I should point out that tires such as the Kumho KW19 are T rated (190km/h). IMO, I wouldn\'t want to be pushing the limits.

[Broli]

Originally posted by FLIPSPEED



Originally posted by Broli


my best on the winters has been like 170

but i tend to keep it at 140ish for cruising speeds,


So you\'re the f****r who cut me off yesterday!






J/K - It was some ****face in an RX-8.

that bastard got me too!

lol
:p

[jdanielsg]

how do I know if my Nokian AWR r V or H rated? I asked for V but... who knows..

[Junior]

Originally posted by jdanielsg


how do I know if my Nokian AWR r V or H rated? I asked for V but... who knows..

size?

[jdanielsg]

Originally posted by Junior



Originally posted by jdanielsg


how do I know if my Nokian AWR r V or H rated? I asked for V but... who knows..

size?

16\"s same as stock tire size.. anways I looked at the receipt it says 94V under description...... but how do I verify that

[MajesticBlueNTO]

Originally posted by jdanielsg



Originally posted by Junior



Originally posted by jdanielsg


how do I know if my Nokian AWR r V or H rated? I asked for V but... who knows..

size?

16\"s same as stock tire size.. anways I looked at the receipt it says 94V under description...... but how do I verify that

check the sidewall...it will say the load index and speed rating next to the tire size

[jdanielsg]

Originally posted by MajesticBlueN



Originally posted by jdanielsg



Originally posted by Junior



Originally posted by jdanielsg


how do I know if my Nokian AWR r V or H rated? I asked for V but... who knows..

size?

16\"s same as stock tire size.. anways I looked at the receipt it says 94V under description...... but how do I verify that

check the sidewall...it will say the load index and speed rating next to the tire size

oh yeah if you guys didnt see me mention it somewhere the bloody tire blew on me....flung the car all over the place so much for Nokian.. I wonder if I should be going back to the same brand again? after they fix the 10K damage

[billyfo]

don\'t blame the tires, I used my Nokian for 5yrs and nothing happen. You seem like the ones from FireStone/Ford Explorer case, blame every other ones but yourself. Like OPPs always say, drive safe and adjust speed whenever the weather/road condition has changed

[jdanielsg]

Originally posted by billyfo


don\'t blame the tires, I used my Nokian for 5yrs and nothing happen. You seem like the ones from FireStone/Ford Explorer case, blame every other ones but yourself. Like OPPs always say, drive safe and adjust speed whenever the weather/road condition has changed

EXCUSE ME? Tires blew and its my fault? R u dense? or trying to flame btw I wasnt speeding or anything and speed has nothing much got to do with tires blowing

[RedRaptor]

Originally posted by jdanielsg



Originally posted by billyfo


don\'t blame the tires, I used my Nokian for 5yrs and nothing happen. You seem like the ones from FireStone/Ford Explorer case, blame every other ones but yourself. Like OPPs always say, drive safe and adjust speed whenever the weather/road condition has changed

EXCUSE ME? Tires blew and its my fault? R u dense? or trying to flame btw I wasnt speeding or anything and speed has nothing much got to do with tires blowing

I\'ve said this before...and I\'ll say it again. You\'re an idiot. But I don\'t believe in stepping on cockroaches in life, so I\'ll just leave it at that.

[jdanielsg]

Originally posted by RedRaptor



Originally posted by jdanielsg



Originally posted by billyfo


don\'t blame the tires, I used my Nokian for 5yrs and nothing happen. You seem like the ones from FireStone/Ford Explorer case, blame every other ones but yourself. Like OPPs always say, drive safe and adjust speed whenever the weather/road condition has changed

EXCUSE ME? Tires blew and its my fault? R u dense? or trying to flame btw I wasnt speeding or anything and speed has nothing much got to do with tires blowing

I\'ve said this before...and I\'ll say it again. You\'re an idiot. But I don\'t believe in stepping on cockroaches in life, so I\'ll just leave it at that.


n you r a loser who has nothign else better to do. Get a life.

[Junior]

Originally posted by jdanielsg
Originally posted by billyfo don\'t blame the tires, I used my Nokian for 5yrs and nothing happen. You seem like the ones from FireStone/Ford Explorer case, blame every other ones but yourself. Like OPPs always say, drive safe and adjust speed whenever the weather/road condition has changed EXCUSE ME? Tires blew and its my fault? R u dense? or trying to flame btw I wasnt speeding or anything and speed has nothing much got to do with tires blowing

those are some pretty harsh words. agreed that billyfool shouldn\'t say \"don\'t blame the tires\".. but that comeback was pretty lashed out.

No matter what.... The tires blew! Who give a hoot, how long you\'ve had the tires..... if the tires blow crusiing at normal speeds... there many factors to consider (ie: tire pressure, road conditions, driver error, humdity, barometric pressure) ... :sarc

gimme a break.. the trie blew, cause it\'s the \"tire\'s fault\"... there, I said it!

too funny

[billyfo]

Originally posted by jdanielsg

flung the car all over the place so much for Nokian.. I wonder if I should be going back to the same brand again? after they fix the 10K damage

isn\'t it what you sad????

[jdanielsg]

Originally posted by Junior



Originally posted by jdanielsg
Originally posted by billyfo don\'t blame the tires, I used my Nokian for 5yrs and nothing happen. You seem like the ones from FireStone/Ford Explorer case, blame every other ones but yourself. Like OPPs always say, drive safe and adjust speed whenever the weather/road condition has changed EXCUSE ME? Tires blew and its my fault? R u dense? or trying to flame btw I wasnt speeding or anything and speed has nothing much got to do with tires blowing

those are some pretty harsh words. agreed that billyfool shouldn\'t say \"don\'t blame the tires\".. but that comeback was pretty lashed out.

No matter what.... The tires blew! Who give a hoot, how long you\'ve had the tires..... if the tires blow crusiing at normal speeds... there many factors to consider (ie: tire pressure, road conditions, driver error, humdity, barometric pressure) ... :sarc

gimme a break.. the trie blew, cause it\'s the \"tire\'s fault\"... there, I said it!

too funny

junior i am sick of people bitching at my post and trying to find every opportunity to diss me...if they wanna say something have something constructive right? I was going normal speed same as everyone else.... the tire pressure should have been right because I sent it in the friday prior.. this happened monday... to the dealer n they had checked it.... I didnt do anything special so other than possible runing over something that might have cut the tire on the road and it blew, but then how you gonna avoid that unless its obvious...so I really have no clue..I am bringing them in to the tire place to get them replaced nokian has a 1 year replacement policy, apparently through this shop anyways... So they will replace any tire damage within a year. After that I assume they go by thread depth....

[wtom]

Originally posted by jdanielsg

oh yeah if you guys didnt see me mention it somewhere the bloody tire blew on me....flung the car all over the place so much for Nokian.. I wonder if I should be going back to the same brand again? after they fix the 10K damage


I was going normal speed same as everyone else.... the tire pressure should have been right because I sent it in the friday prior.. this happened monday... to the dealer n they had checked it.... I didnt do anything special so other than possible runing over something that might have cut the tire on the road and it blew, but then how you gonna avoid that unless its obvious...so I really have no clue..I am bringing them in to the tire place to get them replaced nokian has a 1 year replacement policy, apparently through this shop anyways... So they will replace any tire damage within a year.

Just to keep things neutral here (not my job but what the heck), it\'s very likely you ran over something that cut into the tire. A fellow on the board, autoexe, ran over a freakin pot hole and it blew his tire. Nokian\'s aren\'t cheap. You pay good money for a Ferrari (Nokian) vs. say a Honda Civic (some Canadian Tire winter tires) ... either way you hit something, the car\'s gonna get damages (running the tires over a nail, metal shards, broken glass, etc.)

If you\'re able to, bring the blown tire to a shop and see if they can determine what may have caused it.

No matter tho, you have the warranty covering a new/replacement tire.

[jdanielsg]

Originally posted by wtom



Originally posted by jdanielsg

oh yeah if you guys didnt see me mention it somewhere the bloody tire blew on me....flung the car all over the place so much for Nokian.. I wonder if I should be going back to the same brand again? after they fix the 10K damage


I was going normal speed same as everyone else.... the tire pressure should have been right because I sent it in the friday prior.. this happened monday... to the dealer n they had checked it.... I didnt do anything special so other than possible runing over something that might have cut the tire on the road and it blew, but then how you gonna avoid that unless its obvious...so I really have no clue..I am bringing them in to the tire place to get them replaced nokian has a 1 year replacement policy, apparently through this shop anyways... So they will replace any tire damage within a year.

Just to keep things neutral here (not my job but what the heck), it\'s very likely you ran over something that cut into the tire. A fellow on the board, autoexe, ran over a freakin pot hole and it blew his tire. Nokian\'s aren\'t cheap. You pay good money for a Ferrari (Nokian) vs. say a Honda Civic (some Canadian Tire winter tires) ... either way you hit something, the car\'s gonna get damages (running the tires over a nail, metal shards, broken glass, etc.)

If you\'re able to, bring the blown tire to a shop and see if they can determine what may have caused it.

No matter tho, you have the warranty covering a new/replacement tire.

yeah hard to say what went wrong just by speculating I would be bringing the tires in sometime next week hopefully or something like that, i am guessing I have to wait for them to finish work other parts of the car before doing the wheels n tires last.. well not so upset the tires blew per say but upset it cuased the car to go out of control n sustain even more damages but i guess thats over and done. We\'ll see what the shop says if its pressure than I am gonna look to the mazda dealer here coz they were servicing it on the Friday before it happened, if its external puncutre then tough luck for me I guess :) not much I can do to prevent that other that keeping an eye out as much as possible the highway speeds prob contributed to the whole car going out of control if it were a normal road maybe it would not have been so bad.

[KenYork]

is there a police report to suggest what may have actually happened? to know if it is the fault of the tire, road, or something else? caus any accident damage over $5K (i think), police should be at the scene.

[jdanielsg]

Originally posted by KenYork


is there a police report to suggest what may have actually happened? to know if it is the fault of the tire, road, or something else? caus any accident damage over $5K (i think), police should be at the scene.

yes police was at the scene, they just took my statement. didnt even look at the car, So guess whats on the statement... what I just said :) It probably makes a difference if its a 2 car accident or something. We\'ll know when the tire people look at the tires

[Fuman]

don\'t mean to bring the thread back from the dead, but did a search on winter tires and found this thread.

WTOM you said you were using Kumho KW17, how are they?
The reviews on 1010tires wasnt that help for.
If you don\'t mind, can you give me the price you got them for/place?

Are there any other specific winter tires (please list full tire name) that any one suggests?

Thanks in advance

[majic]

Originally posted by Fuman


don\'t mean to bring the thread back from the dead, but did a search on winter tires and found this thread.

WTOM you said you were using Kumho KW17, how are they?
The reviews on 1010tires wasnt that help for.
If you don\'t mind, can you give me the price you got them for/place?

Are there any other specific winter tires (please list full tire name) that any one suggests?

Thanks in advance

if you have questions directly for wtom, PM him! yeah i know he\'s a mod and he can reply to 1 PM a day so leave him your email address.. secondly this thread is about crusing speeds of winter tires.. there\'s a SLEW of threads on how good a particular brand of winter tires is or where to purchase.. search man! (http://torontomazda3.com/forum/search.php) \'recently acquired snow tires\' is one of the latest threads.. stop being lazy and look around; you\'ll find tons of useful info :sarc

[Fuman]

true, I\'ll leave him with e-mail.
I did search =p.
but as I looked around, E-spec doesnt have the vikings in stock anymore.
and this thread was where wTom posted about his KW17, so I replyed here.
Anyway, gonna find that thread you talked about.
Thanks,

[KenYork]

170km/h across the 401(average 150kms) around 11pm yesterday on Hankook W404\'s, a bit noisy but smooth sailing, suspension is soft though.