TM3 Canada Election 2006

[wtom]

Anonymous voting for TM3\'s representation of who should lead Canada.

Feel free to debate but no flaming!!!

Poll choices ordered alphabetically.

Redoing for the nth time cuz I\'m half asleep at work ...

[majic]

that\'s what you got me here for ;) lol

How low can you go?
this never got aired... but caused a STINK!!! (http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/HTMLTemplate/!ctvVideo/CTVNews/liberal_ads_promo/20060111/TopStories/?&video_link_high=mms://ctvbroadcast.ctv.ca/video/2006/01/10/ctvvideologger2_143kbps_2006_01_10_1136914128.wmv& video_link_low=mms://ctvbroadcast.ctv.ca/video/2006/01/10/ctvvideologger2_45kbps_2006_01_10_1136916418.wmv&c lip_start=00:04:55.66&clip_end=00:00:30.03&clip_ca ption=Liberal%20attack%20ad%20about%20Harper%20and %20military%20presence&clip_id=ctvnews.20060110.00 127000-00127678-clip6&subhub=video)

if you don\'t know who to vote for try this (http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/Politics/CanadaVotes/HowYouShouldVote/vote.html) :)

[TheProfessor]

Alright, who voted Bloc?

[wtom]

One of our friends from Quebec? lol

[Whos ur dadd]

Vive le Bloc!

The Liberals are going to get creamed. Big time. I am usually a Liberal as I am more in tune with their moderate policies, but they have not served our country well over the last few years. I am not a fan of Harper, but will likely vote Conservatives (although I may vote Bloc!) as I think our country needs a strong majority government instead of this fractional minority government which will sell itself to whomever will vote with it (case in point, the Liberal\'s little romp in the sack with the NDP a little whiles back).

Not a fan of right wing ideology, but I don\'t have confidence in the Liberals.

Vive le Bloc!

[Whos ur dadd]

Originally posted by PSIVIC


Alright, who voted Bloc?

Me! Is that a problem for you? Don\'t you tell me who I can or can\'t vote for!

[TheProfessor]

Originally posted by Whos ur dadd



Originally posted by PSIVIC


Alright, who voted Bloc?

Me! Is that a problem for you? Don\'t you tell me who I can or can\'t vote for!

Oh, so it\'s gonna be like that, eh? :D

[majic]

Originally posted by wtom
Feel free to debate but no flaming!!!

[wtom]

Some crazy parties registered (http://www.elections.ca/content.asp?section=pol&document=index&dir=par&lan g=e).

I\'d vote for them (http://www.marijuanaparty.com)...

[wtom]

... majic stands on guard for we? :D

http://news.bbc.co.uk/media/images/38095000/jpg/_38095194_police150pa.jpg

[Cardinal Fang]

Originally posted by majic


if you don\'t know who to vote for try this (http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/Politics/CanadaVotes/HowYouShouldVote/vote.html) :)

It said I should never be allowed to vote.

:(


Originally posted by wtom
Some crazy parties registered (http://www.elections.ca/content.asp?section=pol&document=index&dir=par&lan g=e).

From wtom\'s link:

Political Parties That Lost Their Eligibility to Become Registered

1. National Alternative Party of Canada (section 369(2))
2. The Ontario Party of Canada (section 369(2))
3. Absolutely Absurd Party (section 367, withdrawal of application)

Great just farking great. Just when I found the Party that was really in tune with my philosophy.

[SourcE]

Landed Immigrant, can\'t vote :sarc :p

[S.F.W.]

I\'m really torn this election. I will not vote for Harper, as his plans to cut the GST, and corporate taxes, will ultimately lead to a privatization of more health care services. That worries me...
The Liberals..I don\'t entirely trust...but doesn\'t everyone deserve a second chance?(in this case Martin)
NDP is a maybe...just because they will have power in a minority government.
Bloc - They don\'t have representation in my riding...

[Broli]

It is a tough choice this year, first time it has been really hard
I am not pleased with the liberals, so i don\'t want to vote for them
i would never go conservative because i feel that party is a bunch of redneck racists USA loving jackasses, i don\'t know how any minority could every possibly vote for them
They are a far move to the right from the former PC party
I want to vote NDP, our economy is pretty strong, and that is the only time and NDP government won\'t send us into serious debt!
Still in my Riding, the Liberals are likely to have a tough battle against
the conservatives, so i feel obligated to vote for my man Boris!



Edit: don\'t get me started on the Bloc, IMO, if a party doesn\'t run in every province, they are not a national party, and should not be allowed a party status, they should all have to run as independents, and that is that.

[RedRaptor]

I am going to vote Liberal because I would like reward Paul Martin for stealing my money.


Yeah right...:sarc

In Gilles Duceppe\'s voice

http://www.boriskus.com/gal_duceppe.jpg

\"Allo Prime Minister Aarrpper!\"

\"Goodbuy Mister Marteeen!\"

Go Cons Go!

[RedRaptor]

Originally posted by Broli


i would never go conservative because i feel that party is a bunch of redneck racists USA loving jackasses

Okay no offense, but this is a Liberal statement that has no truth to it. If you truely believe this, then you are mislead or brainwashed by Paul Martin\'s ads and rambling.

Your statement up top is a result of Paul Martin\'s desperate attempts win votes by being anti George W Bush. I don\'t know how smart it is for Mr. Martin to insult our neighbour and closest trading partner. He\'s already pissed off GWB enough that we are pretty much being ignored on the softwood lumber issue. This about Canada and so much of the Liberal platform this year has been to be ANTI US and GWB to win votes. Sad... if you ask me.

Come on guys, if we are going to comment on each party, please make sure you are making an educated and true statement.:sarc

[SABIO]

ok... I have no idea as of yet how I will vote.

My gripes against the parties are...

Conservative... aka- Reform Party aka- Canadian Alliance (Canadian Reform Conservative Alliance) re: Preston Manning and Stockwell day Same party/different suits
Boy, did they pull the wool over everyones eyes!!! If you actually vote for this guy, and This Party... Man you need to give your head a shake.. check his background...He is a danger to Canada.

Some Harper Quotes *\"You’ve got to remember that west of Winnipeg the ridings the Liberals hold are dominated by people who are either recent Asian immigrants or recent migrants from eastern Canada: people who live in ghettoes and who are not integrated into western Canadian society.\"

It may not be true, but it\'s legendary that if you\'re like all Americans, you know almost nothing except for your own country. Which makes you probably knowledgeable about one more country than most Canadians.

the Liberal party gets the votes of most Catholics in the country, including many practising Catholics

Liberals... Theives, but aren\'t all politicians

Bloc Kbecqoui.. Poutine is fine and dandy, but I don\'t want to have to use a passport to get some.

N.D.P The little brats always tugging at your sleeve going, *Can I have some*,*What about us*

[Zaku_4]

im not voting becuase im to lazy to walk to the SLC (voting station in waterloo)

[TheProfessor]

I\'m actually quite surprised how \'close\' the Liberals are to the Conservatives in the above poll. I don\'t really like politics nor do I follow it closely, but I voted Liberal....for me they are the lesser of all the evils we have to choose from at the moment. The Conservatives would re-open the review of the missle launching thing that the US wants (i.e. to be able to launch missles from Canada in order to protect \'North America\" - Yeah, I\'m sure they\'re looking to protect Canada). The Conservatives would also like to undo the gay marriage thing, and I believe people should have that freedom if they wish. Lastly, cutting the GST is not a wise idea IMO....it may appear to be a good thing on the surface but the ramifications of that down the line scare me, and should scare everyone else.

I could be wrong on the above, and if so, feel free to \'school\' me.

[RedRaptor]

Originally posted by SABIO
ok... I have no idea as of yet how I will vote.

Conservative... aka- Reform Party aka- Canadian Alliance (Canadian Reform Conservative Alliance) re: Preston Manning and Stockwell day Same party/different suits
Boy, did they pull the wool over everyones eyes!!! If you actually vote for this guy, and This Party... Man you need to give your head a shake.. check his background...He is a danger to Canada.


SABIO, with all due respect, I think your views on the Cons party is off. I would suggest going to each party\'s website and reading about what their platform is all about. Again, I really wish that people would make educated statements against each party, so that we can have a fair debate about them without getting into flaming.
Your above statement is like suggesting that since the \"Mazda 323 was a crappy car, the Mazda3 is pretty much the same.\" The world evolves and so do these parties. Your knock on the NDP isn\'t fair either because as much as I don\'t like Jack Layton, he really has done the most between the three parties.

I am not here to convince people to vote for the Cons, that is my own personal choice. I just want everyone to take 10-15 min of their time to read about each parties current platform and decide for themselves, instead of using old biases that are no longer valid.

For all the young guys, I would suggest you take 30 min of your time on Jan 23rd and make an educated vote. Although we are from all different culture backgrounds, this is our country and not just a country we live in and not care about.

[SGT06]

I was luke warm to Harper until he decided to lie straight face on TV debate about who are his financial backers. Harper said the info about his financial backers are publicly available but nobody seems to be able to get it. Can you really trust this guy ?

Martin can\'t be trusted either as he lacks the integrity and/or courage to do anything about the scandals and corruptions in his party.

Layton is too extreme and may lacks sound judgement based on the recent skeleton about him using private health care for a hernia operation.

Voting Bloc is the most logical choice if he would fight as hard for Canada as he did for Quebec.

Else, vote for the weeds party as they would legalize this stuffs and everyone would be too damn high to care about politics and the future of Canada.:sarc

[SABIO]

Originally posted by RedRaptor



Originally posted by SABIO


Conservative... aka- Reform Party aka- Canadian Alliance (Canadian Reform Conservative Alliance) re: Preston Manning and Stockwell day Same party/different suits


SABIO, with all due respect, I think your views on the Cons party is off. I would suggest going to each party\'s website and reading about what their platform is all about. Again, I really wish that people would make educated statements against each party, so that we can have a fair debate about them without getting into flaming.
Your above statement is like suggesting that since the \"Mazda 323 was a crappy car, the Mazda3 is pretty much the same.\" The world evolves and so do these parties.

I just want everyone to take 10-15 min of their time to read about each parties current platform and decide for themselves, instead of using old biases that are no longer valid.


My comments are educated. I\'m sorry I can see through the Conservative Bullshit. Mr. Harper is the leader of the Party. You HAVE to look at who HE is and where HE came from. HE is the one who might be making the decisions. Him and all his buddies from the Reform/Alliance parties. You have to look at the past, these people don\'t change. And it was not long ago he was still a reformer/alliance MP, only 2 years ago!!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephen_Harper

Using old Biases... ?? see above, he wasn\'t leader of the (new) Conservatives until March 2004.

What about National Socialism, nothing really wrong with the concepts and practices. It still recieves great support. A party for the working class.
Well... if you say it in German...Nationalsozialismus...It brings to mind other events from the past. But, like you said. Lets not use old Biases

Sorry I cut up your party...

edit- Maybe this is better... *The best predictor of Future Behaviour, is past Behaviour* ~Dr. Phil

[PlatMS6]

hey wheres the choice for communist and fascist parties.....because it doesn\'t make a difference for who you vote for, its all the same http://imagescommerce.bcentral.com/merchantfiles/4508723/nobullshitcolorwt.gif

[Broli]

Belive me Rob, i am an educated man
and i make my vote in an educated manner!

i may speak harshly, and you guys really for the most
part know me from the board, where i make many silly
and light hearted comments


Still, i am onside with Sabio Here!
this new \"conservative party\"
is very scary to me, and i fear for this country should the be elected
last time we had conservative govt it got pretty bad still, i was a bit young to know
what was happening then, but that party was no where near where this new conservative party is

the leeching reform party was able to capitalize on the fall of the old PCs
and that is why there is the party that you know today!

so if you wanna cut taxes, discriminate against gays, blindly follow the US, get into wars that we have no place being in!, house american missles, be hated in every country in the world, by all means vote conservative

i understand the need for change, and a new mandate for the liberals would mean nothing will change
at least not quickly, but i would rather have things stay the same then have the have harper-time!

I am for a party that is Socially liberal and fiscally responsible sadly such a party doesn\'t exist!

[Simkins]

I think a common problem is that people think this new \"conserative\" party are like the provincial \"progressive conseratives\", Steven Harper and his cronies are using the name conservative for the wrong reasons. Im sure I will be called uneducated by someone on this board for not favoring Harper.

[wtom]

Five more days ...

[Cardinal Fang]

Originally posted by Simkins
Im sure I will be called uneducated by someone on this board for not favoring Harper.

No, lets not go too far. While I\'m not a big fan of Harper and this \"brand\" of Conservatives I don\'t think it\'s the gloom and doom the Liberals are making them out to be. I\'ve already voted in the advanced poll so my conscience is clear on this subject. I can partake in life without this election crap hanging over my head for another week. Every party has their nutbags. The Liberals have their members that have publically made racist comments. They have their members that oppose same sex marriages. They have their members that have embarrased them from time to time with corruption and scandal.

I have to say this however with respect to how the Liberals are demonizing Harper and the Conservatives in this election. It\'s distasteful. Listen to the rhetoric for a minute. Somehow only the Liberals know what\'s best for Canada. That if you have values different from Liberal values that you are NOT Canadian. That only \"they know\" what\'s best for Canada. The same tactic was used in the last American Election by Bush to demonize Keary in the eyes of the voters. It was wrong then and it\'s certainly wrong now. What this has shown me is the arrogance that the Liberals have developed as well as how ignorant they are to insult those that choose to vote for anyone else. So much for diversity.

There comes a time when all good things come to an end. The Conservatives had their moment in the sun with Mulroney. It lasted over 10 years and in the end the complacency and arrogance of being in power so long did them in. The Liberals are no different. The great thing about any democratic political system is that when the pendulum swings hard to one side and remains there it exposes the excesses of the political party in power. It’s happening down south and we are no different.

The sky isn\'t falling.

:D

[RedRaptor]

I\'m going confess that I have always voted Liberal when JC was in power. I have to admit part of my distaste for the Liberals these past few years is the fact that Paul Martin is the leader. I didn\'t like him as FM nor do I like him as the PM now. The way he went about this job and campaigning against JC, it was all very wrong.

I agree with Cardinal Fang in the above post. I am not saying the Cons and Harper are the solution to Canada\'s troubles. However as a working citizen I am sick and tired of the corruption and lies of Paul Martin and the Liberals. I am sure I am not the only one in Canada that feels this way. Instead of wasting time and demonizing Harper, the Liberals should have ads that tell us what they have done good in the past and not going to scare tactics by labelling Harper as the next Hitler. Its disrespectful and stupid, the Liberals paid for that specific ad when current soldiers and vets asked for an officially apology. An apology that Paul Martin has yet to give...to the people who have fought and are fighting for our freedoms now. I find this very sad...everyone government has corruption but its the pride and cockyness that Paul Martin possesses that ticks me off. The attitude of \"We\'ve screwed you and we\'ll keep doing it\". How believable is the fact that he knew nothing about all these scandals while he was FM? While all politicians are never honest, Paul Martin will lie to your face and not be sorry about it.

I don\'t mean to discredit people who don\'t like the Con government when I said make an \"educated\" post about them. But a lot of these posts are simply not based on facts and I\'m hearing more and more of the Liberal scare tactics (No gays, Starwars, Bestfriends with Bush and etc). Let\'s vote based on what we want for the best of Canada. Sometimes achieving that requires change. We should not be afraid to take out a government in power because we are scared of change. It seems to me like the Liberal supporters are saying \"Liberals aren\'t good, but I prefer to stay this way than change.\" I don\'t know what kind of attitude that is because its not a very open minded one.

You want change? Vote for Jack Layton and the NDP. You don\'t like the Cons, vote NDP and put your faith in a better leader than one that lies to your face and isn\'t sorry.

Anyways, voting is a personal issue and I\'m just happy that Canadians are taking this vote seriously by actually voting.

I am sorry if I came off too strong earlier, I apologize for that.

Red.

[wtom]

What\'s more sad is the twenty something odd percentage of people between the age of 18 and 24 who actually make it out to vote. Pulse24 was interviewing a few of the younger workers around the city and they just made comments along the lines of, \"it has no direct effect on me\" ... \"they don\'t relate to me in any way\" ...

It\'s sad.

Maybe they should start putting more focus on Canada itself in the education system? Seems the Americans have a lot more focus on their own country in their education system than we do on ours.

It\'s sad.

All three of the main parties are ill. All they do now is attack each other? What ever happened to the main reason you are trying to win the CITIZEN\'s votes?

It\'s sad.

But that is life.

Those of us who get the opportunity to voice our decisions (X\'ing in the ballot) should be appreciative.

I\'ll admit that this year is the first year that I\'ve really taken an interest in the elections. I\'m 27. It\'s not my first time to vote though.

Change is good. Without change, people don\'t learn. When people don\'t learn, they get stuck in their time and knowledge. The world around them and time forever changes.

[Broli]

the beauty of a vote
is u can spend it anyway u want

i have not seen any political comercials this year,
don\'t get a lot of time to watch tv.

and i will be the first to admit that i have party biases
and believe u me, that i can go to any of the party websites
read there mission statments, or promises or whatever
and say wow
that sounds great,
it is all about spin,
and it is all about dirty politics
and making the other guy sound bad

it is the resposability of the voter
to decide what they believe and dont believe

this sort of spin
happens not just in politics
but in news in general

sadly it is almost always believed!

sometimes u need to place ur vote where it is the most effective

samething as if u have 1 bullet and u have one guy u really hate and someone he loves
u put the bullet in the one he loves and he will suffer more!

strategy is important

(i wouldn\'t shoot anyone btw!!!!! :) )

change is inevitable, but i would prefer to see the new cons party destroyed and the old cons back
even though i don\'t like them much either!

[Cardinal Fang]

Originally posted by Broli


samething as if u have 1 bullet and u have one guy u really hate and someone he loves
u put the bullet in the one he loves and he will suffer more!


Somewhere in here is a political analogy. NO! Don\'t tell me. I\'m bound to find it.

:D

[Broli]

Originally posted by Cardinal Fang



Originally posted by Broli


samething as if u have 1 bullet and u have one guy u really hate and someone he loves
u put the bullet in the one he loves and he will suffer more!


Somewhere in here is a political analogy. NO! Don\'t tell me. I\'m bound to find it.

:D


of course there is

and it is quite clear, u r just being a dickquad!

:p

i hope everyone does take the time to vote
when my friends say that they aren\'t going to vote
i always give them shit
and tell them its their duty, to make a decision


but it is hard, is an uninformed vote better than no vote???

[TheProfessor]

Originally posted by Cardinal Fang
I have to say this however with respect to how the Liberals are demonizing Harper and the Conservatives in this election. It\'s distasteful.


Dude, you think that Harper\'s ads towards the Liberals and NDP are not as bad :sarc Out of all of the ads thus far I think the Tory\'s ads have been by far the worst.....did you see the one where they pasted Layton\'s moustache onto a bunch of different people?

[RedRaptor]

Honestly I think this thread should be locked. Its getting ugly, just like good old politics. :sarc

[TheProfessor]

Originally posted by RedRaptor


Honestly I think this thread should be locked. Its getting interesting, just like good old politics. :sarc

Fixed.

[TheProfessor]

Sorry, double post.

[Cardinal Fang]

Originally posted by PSIVIC

Dude, you think that Harper\'s ads towards the Liberals and NDP are not as bad :sarc

Come on PSIVIC where in my post did I say or even imply that the Conservative Ads were not as bad? Show me please where I condoned the Conservatives use of attack ads?

All attack ads are bad and all three parties used them with some degree of effectiveness. It would be interesting to see how many people changed their vote because they found those ads distasteful. I sure as hell did.

By the way...I didn\'t vote Conservative and I didn\'t take any offense to your comment.

[TheProfessor]

Fang, I wrote what I wrote because you made it a point to only state how the Liberals ads towards Harper were \"distasteful\". I was merely bringing to light that typically all of the ads, regardless of which party they belong to, are distasteful.

And I knew you wouldn\'t take offense to it and none was intended.

[Broli]

Originally posted by RedRaptor


Honestly I think this thread should be locked. Its getting ugly, just like good old politics. :sarc

why lock a thread that is an interesting debate?

we can\'t just lock every thread now, can we??

[SABIO]

As long as no one starts throwing lefts at the next meet... no threads should be locked. :)

If a thread degrades to personal attacks..racial slurs , etc. Then it should be.

Politics always brings out strong opinions... who wants to be stuck with idiots and crooks in power.

....but then again.. we don\'t really have a choice..


edit: P.S Liberal are ahead in the Polls... :0

[majic]

Originally posted by SABIO
edit: P.S Liberal are ahead in the Polls... :0

which polls are you looking at?

not here (http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/20060118/elxn_poll_060118/20060118?s_name=election2006&no_ads=)
nor here (http://www.ctv.ca/mini/election2006/static/interactives/poll_trkr/index.html[/url)
not here either (http://www.theglobeandmail.com/special/national/decision2006/poll.html)
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/special/national/decision2006/pollGraphic_200x76.gif

only 1 poll out of 7 shows red in the lead (http://www.nodice.ca/elections/canada/polls.php)

ahead eh? more like \"damage control mode\" (http://www.thestar.com/NASApp/cs/ContentServer?pagename=thestar/Layout/Article_Type1&c=Article&cid=1137582110105&call_pag eid=968332188492&col=968793972154&t=TS_Home)

going by the trends, blue in the house and orange as opposition :p

they might be closing the gap but FAR from being ahead!!!

[Broli]

Originally posted by majic



Originally posted by SABIO
edit: P.S Liberal are ahead in the Polls... :0

which polls are you looking at?

not here (http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/20060118/elxn_poll_060118/20060118?s_name=election2006&no_ads=)
nor here (http://www.ctv.ca/mini/election2006/static/interactives/poll_trkr/index.html[/url)
not here either (http://www.theglobeandmail.com/special/national/decision2006/poll.html)
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/special/national/decision2006/pollGraphic_200x76.gif

only 1 poll out of 7 shows red in the lead (http://www.nodice.ca/elections/canada/polls.php)

ahead eh? more like \"damage control mode\" (http://www.thestar.com/NASApp/cs/ContentServer?pagename=thestar/Layout/Article_Type1&c=Article&cid=1137582110105&call_pag eid=968332188492&col=968793972154&t=TS_Home)

going by the trends, blue in the house and orange as opposition :p

they might be closing the gap but FAR from being ahead!!!

lol

i think he was looking at the TM3 poll

maybe u have seen this thread

lol (http://torontomazda3.com/forum/read.php?TID=4771)

current numbers here
have
Liberals 37%
Conservative 34%

haha

Majic
u have
been
majoogled!

:p

[Cardinal Fang]

I believe the operative word is pimp smacked. But in all fairness half the Liberal votes in this poll are from Broli\'s other handles.

:D

[majic]

Originally posted by Broli
haha

Majic
u have
been
majoogled!

:p

doh.. i think i should resign.. :D

and i agree with fang.. broli.. stop inflating the posts with fake usernames!!! he even had his mom sign up :)

in any case.. historically the GTA is usually RED and hello this is where the majority of TM3-ers are from ;) so to no surprise. they are in the lead.. but don\'t forget canada != GTA so there are more blue in other provinces and even rest of ontario (and quebec!!!)

[RedRaptor]

You guys are right, this thread is getting interest...

The latest screw up by the Liberals...

oppss... (http://www.pulse24.com/News/Top_Story/20060118-011/page.asp)

Good one Buzz. Looks like he\'s a little too anxious to get some of that sponsorship money from Mr. Martin this time around.

[Broli]

Originally posted by majic



Originally posted by Broli
haha

Majic
u have
been
majoogled!

:p

doh.. i think i should resign.. :D

and i agree with fang.. broli.. stop inflating the posts with fake usernames!!! he even had his mom sign up :)

in any case.. historically the GTA is usually RED and hello this is where the majority of TM3-ers are from ;) so to no surprise. they are in the lead.. but don\'t forget canada != GTA so there are more blue in other provinces and even rest of ontario (and quebec!!!)


ok, first off, haha
u would never resign, cause there is alot of majoogle left to be done!

second,
hey, i made one other account as a joke, and used it once
in another thread
and i never used it to vote in this thread!

Third off, central Toronto is typically Red
the suburbs (outside of the last few elections) is typically blue
Quebec - is blue, but the are bloc blue (are they purple? i guess we could call them Indigo Blue . .. lol)

and finally, i am not saying the liberals are in the lead in the country
in fact i think they are probably screwed,
but i hope not!!!

[Whos ur dadd]

How come I can\'t find the bloc\'s stand on Ontario health care issues? That\'s it; if they\'re not going to deal with local issues as important as this, they are not getting my vote.

[majic]

LOL!!!!!!!! now that\'s something you don\'t hear very often :p

Martin attacks Layton for not attacking Harper (http://www.cbc.ca/story/canadavotes2006/national/2006/01/17/martin-layton.html)

[RedRaptor]

Originally posted by majic


LOL!!!!!!!! now that\'s something you don\'t hear very often :p

Martin attacks Layton for not attacking Harper (http://www.cbc.ca/story/canadavotes2006/national/2006/01/17/martin-layton.html)

The actions of a desperate man.

Paul Martin doesn\'t surprise me anymore.

[dredd2099]

heh
logged on just to vote
:D

[SABIO]

I meant the TM3 Poll... It is the only true representation of the multi-cultural society we live in.

This poll counts.

[majic]

Originally posted by SABIO


I meant the TM3 Poll... It is the only true representation of the multi-cultural society we live in.


1) AAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
2) YOU and ME both know that WE are a minority here..
3) so if by \"true representation\" of our (canadian) society we live in, you must be referring to the continent of asia.. ;) b/c that would be the only way it is correct..

btw.. it\'s a tie now.. :p out in the real world, the scenario is MUCH different!

[majic]

i think he\'s got something in his pants :p :D

http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/1836/060118liberals3000ry.jpg

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[vasco]

i want a new poll with this on it Marijuana Party lol

[SABIO]

The bottom line is.. we will wait and see in a few hours.

Polls are a joke. They call 300 people and say it represents Canada. Whatever. So many polls out becuase you can get big money from a political party to say they are in the lead and swing votes

Remember when Brian M. was going for his 2nd!! majority gov. and they said everyone was fed up with the PC\'s and no one was going to vote for them (free trade...GST blah blah...) opps.. 2nd majority Gov....polls were wrong

This will be a close one.. Liberals were supossed to lose last time.

tick tock tick tock...

what does our Future hold.........

[SABIO]

well... the polls have been closed for 20 minutes now...

Liberal have close to 40% of the vote so far.. campared to Cons. 34%
Already predictions of a 140 seat Liberal Gov. compared to 138 they have now.

hmmm.. stay tuned.. could those polls be wrong??

[SABIO]

gee.. 15 minutes later.. city TV changed their mind ..they *Declared A conservative Victory..
Problably a minority gov.
Kinda early I think...

[RedRaptor]

Give it up man...its going to be a Conservative Minority.

All this hoping and wishing.

I guess we\'ll see if your Mazda3 gets better fuel mileage also.

Sorry about your party.

[Mazda3_06]

Today is going to be a sad sad day
Harper is one F- up individual

well Canada is now offically going down the drain....

There goes my subidize day care

wtf im i gonna do with 1200 dollars?

oh i can use it to soupe up my mazda 3

and i can leave my son at home with grandma

Thanks Stephen Harper

at least im going to get 1 good thing out of this!

lol

Peace out

B

[Broli]

ah well
that sux, but was inevitable!

i just hope in the next 30 mins the NDP
makes up enough seats to be the balance of power!!!

[RedRaptor]

Originally posted by Mazda3_06


Today is going to be a sad sad day
Harper is one F- up individual

well Canada is now offically going down the drain....

There goes my subidize day care

wtf im i gonna do with 1200 dollars?

oh i can use it to soupe up my mazda 3

and i can leave my son at home with grandma

Thanks Stephen Harper

at least im going to get 1 good thing out of this!

lol

Peace out

B

Sure buddy, whatever you say.

I am glad that old \"F- up\"(as you like to put it) liar, Martin is out of here.

[Mazda3_06]

why is martin a liar?
hes not the one that spent our money with the sponsorship scandal and crap
it was chreitien
i dont see why martin is taking the heat!

[iconicrocket]

So far, looks like we\'re getting a coalition government. And it\'s pretty much split down the middle with a Tories-NDP government. I hope they\'ll get some work done.

Wonder if Harper will remember the 5% GST and $1200 child benefit promise when he gets in office.

[SABIO]

Originally posted by RedRaptor


Give it up man...its going to be a Conservative Minority.

All this hoping and wishing.

I guess we\'ll see if your Mazda3 gets better fuel mileage also.

Sorry about your party.


Huh? I never stated which party I preferred? I\'ve Never voted liberal.
And I would NEVER vote for the Reform/Alliance Conservatives.

Sorry you had to throw in a personal jab about nothing.

[SABIO]

It\'s interesting to see that the NDP got almost a million votes more (approx 8% of the vote) than the Bloc. But only get 29 seats. The Bloc has 51....

To many seats in Quebec.

Also interesting to see how strong the Conservatives were out west. Pulled serious numbers out there. Wait...that was Reformer/Alliance territory....so they just voted the same as before..

[Cardinal Fang]

Well it looks like Canada has decided to take the Conservatives for a test drive. Considering that four political parties are now broke, this minority government, in my opinion will last longer than the last one. Put me down for 2 years min.

Some observations:

1. As Sabio noted the NDP pulled in 17.5% of the popular vote compared to the Bloc\'s 10.5% of the popular vote but only managed 4th in this election. Now you understand why Layton pushes for proportional representation.

2. The Conservatives managed to pull in seats from across Canada with the exception of the downtown core of Montreal, Toronto and Vancouver. The Urban areas have always leaned left so it\'s really no surprise there. What is a surprise is that this \"Conservative\" party has managed to become national for the first time. For his continued success Harper is going to have to build on the urban vote and show them he\'s a moderate. Good luck there.

3. Much has been said about the \"WEST\" now being an influence in Canadian Politics. Deal with it. For years the west and the rest of Canada have had to sit back and look at the power struggle with the Federal Government be between Quebec and Ontario. They\'ve looked at us with disdain and contempt while we\'ve ignored their concerns. While Ontario continues to be the Economic centre of Canada you cannot ignore the west and the muscle that Alberta now holds. This could prove to be interesting times.

4. The NDP improved their numbers to Layton\'s credit. However, it wasn\'t enough. For the Conservatives to build a coalition on legislative agenda they will have to look to the Bloc or the Liberals. Even if Harper had Layton\'s vote it isn\'t enough to defeat the combined total of the Liberals and the Bloc. In other words, Layton will have little impact on the Conservatives agenda.

5. The Leafs lost again. They can\'t beat the Sens in the regular season and if they don\'t get their act together they won\'t make the playoffs to get beat by them as well.

6. I have to think that somewhere in Canada all of those Liberals that were \"turfed\" out of the party (Sheila Copps et all) by Martin\'s camp when he took over from Crietien were all smiles. The manner in which Martin took power was shocking to most. To go from a 60% approval rating when he first arrived to this is doubly so.

7. The Liberals allowed the Conservatives to define themselves and in the end that did them in. They didn\'t start their campaign until after Christmas and Harper by then had made policy statement after policy statement and it stuck. Harper defined himself before the Liberals could define him.

8. I pick the Steelers over the Seahawks by 5.

[TheProfessor]

Originally posted by Cardinal Fang
5. The Leafs lost again. They can\'t beat the Sens in the regular season and if they don\'t get their act together they won\'t make the playoffs to get beat by them as well.

Oh man, I don\'t know how many more Toronto-Ottawa games I can endure like the last six :sarc

[Whos ur dadd]

Originally posted by Cardinal Fang

6. I have to think that somewhere in Canada all of those Liberals that were \"turfed\" out of the party (Sheila Copps et all) by Martin\'s camp when he took over from Crietien were all smiles. The manner in which Martin took power was shocking to most. To go from a 60% approval rating when he first arrived to this is doubly so.


In all fairness to Martin, he had to run around with that sponsorship scandal ball-and-chain.

[SABIO]

Steven Harper has given Stockwell Day a cushy job is his cabinet.... go figure.
I wonder how that happened... could it be they are both Reform-Alliance losers. Both of them Lead the Alliance party.
Losers

[Cardinal Fang]

Harper has not gotten off to a good start. He accepted a Liberal that crossed over to a Cabinet position after crusifying the Liberals for accepting Belinda. He further goes on to appoint an unelected official from Quebec to the Senate as well as a Cabinet position. The position? Minister of Public Works. The scandal plagued portfolio of ADSCAM for those of you playing along at home. So the opposition will have no chance to bring the Minister to task in the House because the farking idiot won\'t be there!

For all the Conservatives did in the campaign about \"cleaning up\" the government, they are sure doing their best to ensure public cynicism remains in Canadian politics.

Morons.

[TheProfessor]

Originally posted by Cardinal Fang

Morons.

That pretty much sums it up for my thoughts on the Conservatives, Harper in particular :sarc

[SGT06]

When will Canadians learn to never trust a politician?!?!??!

Gullible is as gullible does.!

Shoulda voted Bloc or the MJ party. :p