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tenlbs0220
02-17-2006, 02:51 PM
My friend told me to get oil change at 2000KM-ish because it will do the car good. So I wanted to do that and I went to walmart because its cheaper. But walmart tech said there is some kind of canister on the car and he couldnt do oil change?
I was like \"WHAT THE\", so where can I get oil change on the mazda3 besides dealership? The dealership\'s oil isnt always as good and they are somewhat overcharged.
FLIPDADY
02-17-2006, 02:55 PM
You can get it done right and go to the dealership or take it to a quick lube place that has done a Mazda 3 oil change w/ cartridge filter. That\'s what you have on your car.
I can sell you the filter and you can take it to a quick lube place.
majic
02-17-2006, 03:03 PM
Originally posted by FLIPSPEED
You can get it done right and go to the dealership or take it to a quick lube place that has done a Mazda 3 oil change w/ cartridge filter. That\'s what you have on your car.
I can sell you the filter and you can take it to a quick lube place.
Joe is the man! get your filter while you can! :D you might even get some price break at the quick lube places b/c you bring in your own filter.. just make sure you keep all your receipts so that if something goes wrong you can hold SOMEONE accountable (warranty claims and such)
FLIPDADY
02-17-2006, 03:15 PM
Originally posted by majic
Joe is the man! get your filter while you can! :D you might even get some price break at the quick lube places b/c you bring in your own filter.. just make sure you keep all your receipts so that if something goes wrong you can hold SOMEONE accountable (warranty claims and such)
Nah you da man majic! He\'s right keep all receipts in case down the road God forbid something goes wrong with your engine, Mazda will want to see your service records.
FYI, the price of the cartridge filter has gone up to $12.58 retail.
Fuman
02-17-2006, 03:18 PM
the price increase in the cartridge filter, has it drove up the oil change price?
tenlbs0220
02-17-2006, 05:25 PM
so if I have a cartridge filter I can get it done anywhere?
is that right? the guy told me something about canister?
is it only happen with M3?
MajesticBlueNTO
02-17-2006, 06:39 PM
Originally posted by tenlbs0220
so if I have a cartridge filter I can get it done anywhere?
is that right? the guy told me something about canister?
is it only happen with M3?
you trust a guy who can\'t even tell you what kind of oil filter is in your car?
how much cheaper is wal-mart over the dealer? oil changes are like $29 at the dealer and you get it done right the first time.
FYI, yes it is a cartridge filter in the 2.3L and it is not exclusive to the Mazda3 (several M-Bs have it, etc)
tenlbs0220
02-17-2006, 10:10 PM
yea...walmart didnt do it cuz they said they couldnt
McGuyver_3
03-18-2006, 10:31 PM
Originally posted by tenlbs0220
yea...walmart didnt do it cuz they said they couldnt
ROFL thats a load of horse manuar they could do it but their plane stupid. The filter is exactly like the metal ones just no outside housing. (pretty hard to explain) but all of the bmw\'s have them Instead of using an oil filter wrench u need a elen key or a 1/2 inch socket wrench and you can remove it that way.
MajesticBlueNTO
03-18-2006, 11:17 PM
Originally posted by my_mazda3
Originally posted by tenlbs0220
yea...walmart didnt do it cuz they said they couldnt
ROFL thats a load of horse manuar they could do it but their plane stupid. The filter is exactly like the metal ones just no outside housing. (pretty hard to explain) but all of the bmw\'s have them Instead of using an oil filter wrench u need a elen key or a 1/2 inch socket wrench and you can remove it that way.
listen to yourself for a second: \"The filter is exactly like the metal ones just no outside housing.\"
that\'s like saying that your oil filter and your air filter are exactly the same.
the PART numbers and the METHOD to put a \"metal\" (canister) filter and the cartridge filter on are completely different.
wal-mart COULDN\'T do it because they may not have stocked the cartridge filter and the associated o-rings.
here\'s a pic of the cartridge filter:
http://images.cardomain.com/member_images/1/web/337000-337999/337094_37_full.jpg
and here\'s a pic of the canister filter:
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/1/web/337000-337999/337094_263_full.jpg
tell me now, if you were changing the filter, how could you conceivably fit the canister filter in the cartridge filter housing?
SABIO
03-18-2006, 11:26 PM
Originally posted by tenlbs0220
I was like \"WHAT THE\", so where can I get oil change on the mazda3 besides dealership? The dealership\'s oil isnt always as good and they are somewhat overcharged.
Buy the filter...and your own oil.
Ya the bulk oil is the cheapest stuff they can buy...we assume it meets mazdas minimum requirements, we hope. They wouldn\'t buy any more.
Any place (dealer or lubeshop) that uses bulk oil - has contaminated oil(moisture/dirt). Thats a fact.
They only way to ensure you get clean oil is to break the seal on the bottle yourself.
Bulk oil sux. I worked at a dealer for 5 years, none of the mechanics used the bulk oil.
MaxRPM
03-18-2006, 11:53 PM
WTF is an \"ellen key\" is that what is used to fix rotors that are grooved by leaves?
vortex-5
03-20-2006, 11:46 AM
As long as the oil your using is certified for; \"Ford WSS-M2C930-A \" your fine. Generally there are other API certification numbers but we have ford engines and that\'s the spec\'ed oil that will guarentee you warrenty. Since it\'s the same oil mazda will sell you spec wise (I got them to show me a bottle of mazda 5W20).
Personally I didn\'t go with el-cheapo oil I told Mazda to use my Mobil1 for the start but any WSS-M2C930-A certified oil will do.
vortex-5
03-20-2006, 11:46 AM
Originally posted by MaxRPM
WTF is an \"ellen key\" is that what is used to fix rotors that are grooved by leaves?
I believe \"ellen key\" is \"allen key\" I have no clue about the rest.
MajesticBlueNTO
03-20-2006, 03:06 PM
Originally posted by vortex-5
I believe \"ellen key\" is \"allen key\" I have no clue about the rest.
apparently sarcasm is lost on this child.
vortex-5
03-20-2006, 04:24 PM
Originally posted by MajesticBlueN
Originally posted by vortex-5
I believe \"ellen key\" is \"allen key\" I have no clue about the rest.
apparently sarcasm is lost on this child.
Sarcasm doesn\'t translate online you need to use your :D or :)
MaxRPM
03-20-2006, 05:59 PM
You need to read what I typed again and one other thread to truly understand the sarcasm I implied.
Originally posted by vortex-5
Originally posted by MajesticBlueN
Originally posted by vortex-5
I believe \"ellen key\" is \"allen key\" I have no clue about the rest.
apparently sarcasm is lost on this child.
Sarcasm doesn\'t translate online you need to use your :D or :)
SABIO
03-20-2006, 07:36 PM
Originally posted by vortex-5
As long as the oil your using is certified for; \"Ford WSS-M2C930-A \" your fine. Generally there are other API certification numbers but we have ford engines and that\'s the spec\'ed oil that will guarentee you warrenty. Since it\'s the same oil mazda will sell you spec wise (I got them to show me a bottle of mazda 5W20).
Personally I didn\'t go with el-cheapo oil I told Mazda to use my Mobil1 for the start but any WSS-M2C930-A certified oil will do.
I wouldn\'t go hyping WSS-M2C930 to much. The engineering standard is ISO controlled but it is pretty vague in reference to the actual properties of the oil. The control points are variables greater than/less than, minimum and maximum. The Range of oils that would fall into this category are pretty large.
I bet wal-mart oil is API Certified for gasoline engine service ILSAC GF-4 and meets API SM/Energy conservation standards.
p.s WSS-M2C930 is not an API number
MajesticBlueNTO
03-20-2006, 07:59 PM
Originally posted by vortex-5
Originally posted by MajesticBlueN
Originally posted by vortex-5
I believe \"ellen key\" is \"allen key\" I have no clue about the rest.
apparently sarcasm is lost on this child.
Sarcasm doesn\'t translate online you need to use your :D or :)
apparently comprehension is lost on this child. :p
you don\'t see novels with :) and :D (or any smilies/emoticons for that matter) when implying sarcasm...ok ok, maybe if maxRPM finished his post with the narrative \"with much sarcasm\" then it would make it easier...but, if you look at the context of his post when juxtaposed with my_mazda3\'s suggestion that leaves can cause grooves in rotors, then you\'ll be able to see the post brimming with sarcasm.
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