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07-18-2006, 11:00 PM

Today\'s topic is God.

How can there be a God when there is so much injustice in this world? A 43 year old mother was killed by a fallen tree while camping near Peterborough. I\'m assuming she\'s not a crack-dealer of course, but she\'s dead. Then we have pedophiles that keep on hurting children and get away with it. Where\'s the justice in that?

The Tsunamis from a little whiles back. Why did those 200,000+ people have to die?

And the typical response from the clergy? \"We must not question the Creator\'s ways\". That sounds like a cop-out answer if you ask me. If you can\'t explain it, then just say \"We must not question the Creator\'s ways\".

If I\'ve offended anyone, then good. I wanna hear what you have to say.

SIM SIMMA

07-18-2006, 11:13 PM

Before this becomes a thread on religion...

I once asked my friend who is a hardcore Christian similar questions and her answer....

\"The Lord works in mysterious ways\" :sarc

JMAK74

07-19-2006, 12:55 AM

Originally posted by Whos ur dadd

Today\'s topic is God.

How can there be a God when there is so much injustice in this world? A 43 year old mother was killed by a fallen tree while camping near Peterborough. I\'m assuming she\'s not a crack-dealer of course, but she\'s dead. Then we have pedophiles that keep on hurting children and get away with it. Where\'s the justice in that?

The Tsunamis from a little whiles back. Why did those 200,000+ people have to die?

And the typical response from the clergy? \"We must not question the Creator\'s ways\". That sounds like a cop-out answer if you ask me. If you can\'t explain it, then just say \"We must not question the Creator\'s ways\".

If I\'ve offended anyone, then good. I wanna hear what you have to say.

I agree with Jobes - this is going to become a big debate. And I\'m not a bible thumper/die hard religious type. And no, you haven\'t offended me.

One of the classic reasons why someone says God doesn\'t exist you have brought up here - because injustice is allowed.

The assumption one makes here is that God will prevent injustice, however no where in scripture (from a Christian stand point) do I recall it being said he\'ll prevent injustice now. What we are told is justice will be served when the saviour comes (i.e. end of this world).

It\'s quite possible that God chooses to allow things to just happen - though he could control the weather, he chooses not to - no different in ways a cop may allow something \'not nice\' to happen to someone. At least based on scripture, God made man in his own image, so it\'s quite possible that God allows things to \'just happen\' like we do and not do anything about it at that point. It\'s a question of what you (God) does in the end - if you (God) continues to do nothing, then you\'re right - there is no God. For all of the possible debating that could be done - we\'ll really not know till we\'re dead or the rapture comes.

When the clergy/strongly religious types answers with \"God\'s will/mysterious ways....\" stuff - what do you expect - they\'re only human and are trying to give an answer for a being that they have never met or could understand at this level.

Maybe in the end, read
Pascal Wager (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pascals_wager) - it\'s an interesting way also to look at why/why not believe in a God/religion.

JK

Zaku_4

07-19-2006, 04:40 AM

lol

maybe there is a god, maybe there isnt. hey, maybe there are more than one. unjustice? what is injustice? what is right and wrong?

we only have part of the big picture, all you religious eople can do is believe everything that is happening, is happening cause its supposed to in 1 way or another

im an athiest.

bluntman

07-19-2006, 07:56 AM

I am not a hard-core Catholic, but I am a Catholic nonetheless. I believe in the \"Ant Farm Theory\".

God set things in motion at the beginning of time and sat back and let civilization and humankind evolve. Once you\'re dead He \"debriefs\" you on your life and you are either sent to Heaven, Hell or Pergatory.

firstmazda

07-19-2006, 08:44 AM

A friend of mine once told me an old proverb they have in his country.
\"Bad things happen for a good reason\"

oh yeah, and Confucius say, \"Man who walk wrong way through airport
turnstyle going to Bangkok\"

3GFX

07-19-2006, 08:57 AM

I wasn\'t gonna touch this thread, because I thread like this causes to much controversy anyway and no one and I mean NO ONE, athiest or priest or Ali G, never gets anywhere.

BUT I do have a slight opinion!

The mysterious ways thing is my call to, no matter how lame, or wierd...its just what my religion (catholic) believes.

Trully though, I have matured to the point, where these \"works\" of God are not my religion. I believe in the resurrection, and life after death. As for works of God? Sort of, something made that big bang.

(I like the family guy where God puts a match to his but and farts the universe, I like that theory.)

Religion is a matter of \"goodness\".

I learned this nice and early.

ALL RELIGIONS follow something close to the \'Golden Rule\'

Do onto others as you would have done onto you...

in otherwords... BE NICE!!!!

What can you disagree with about that? You don\'t need a God to be NICE, so I respect athiests too.

Its all about unity and being good to one another, not blaming eachother or something greater than us.

My two cents.

Peace

bluntman

07-19-2006, 08:58 AM

Originally posted by 3GFX

I wasn\'t gonna touch this thread, because I thread like this causes to much controversy anyway and no one and I mean NO ONE, athiest or priest or Ali G, never gets anywhere.

BUT I do have a slight opinion!

The mysterious ways thing is my call to, no matter how lame, or wierd...its just what my religion (catholic) believes.

Trully though, I have matured to the point, where these \"works\" of God are not my religion. I believe in the resurrection, and life after death. As for works of God? Sort of, something made that big bang.

(I like the family guy where God puts a match to his but and farts the universe, I like that theory.)

Religion is a matter of \"goodness\".

I learned this nice and early.

ALL RELIGIONS follow something close to the \'Golden Rule\'

Do onto others as you would have done onto you...

in otherwords... BE NICE!!!!

What can you disagree with about that? You don\'t need a God to be NICE, so I respect athiests too.

Its all about unity and being good to one another, not blaming eachother or something greater than us.

My two cents.

Peace

Amen! :D

I agree.

I had to take Religion up until Grade 12 and that last year was the most fascinating and satisfying Religion course that I had ever taken. That year we learned about different religions, Judaisim, Hinduism, Budism, Islam, etc. It left me with an appreciation for all of the religions of the world and how, essentially, all religions are the same.

Whos ur dadd

07-19-2006, 10:13 AM

Originally posted by 3GFX

Religion is a matter of \"goodness\".

I learned this nice and early.

ALL RELIGIONS follow something close to the \'Golden Rule\'

Do onto others as you would have done onto you...

in otherwords... BE NICE!!!!

What can you disagree with about that? You don\'t need a God to be NICE, so I respect athiests too.

Its all about unity and being good to one another, not blaming eachother or something greater than us.

My two cents.

Peace

Nice. I\'ve read about that before. It makes absolute that religion would be used to tie society together.

Whos ur dadd

07-19-2006, 10:15 AM

Originally posted by bluntman

Once you\'re dead He \"debriefs\" you on your life and you are either sent to Heaven, Hell or Pergatory.

So, there\'s no way to find out til ya kick the can, eh?

Whos ur dadd

07-19-2006, 10:19 AM

Today\'s question: How do they put the caramel into a Caramilk bar?

bluntman

07-19-2006, 10:29 AM

Easy (http://members.shaw.ca/b.bogdan/caramilk/cadbury.htm)

Cardinal Fang

07-19-2006, 10:47 AM

WhatÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s up with this thread topic? Is this the Ã¢â‚¬Å“in touch with his feelingsÃ¢â‚¬Â Whos ur dadd?

Originally posted by Whos ur dadd
How can there be a God when there is so much injustice in this world?

Injustice isnÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t caused by God. Injustice is caused by man (i.e. Human race). Accidents of life should not be confused with injustice. God doesnÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t exercise control over these things. The notion that an omnipotent being would visit suffering and turmoil on people as part of a greater plan is obscene in the most repugnant way.

Originally posted by Whos ur dadd
And the typical response from the clergy? \"We must not question the Creator\'s ways\".

I can\'t speak for all clergy but in my case my response would have included a quote from Monty Python to break the ice before coming down with some \"rath of God\" quote.

Humans have a need to believe in something. The notion that we are all alone on this blue marble is enough to stir up questions in all of us. Why are we here? How did we get here? Why is Broli allowed to post so much? These are all questions that will foster discussions over and over again. I believe in God. I donÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t exactly know why but I do because there is something inside of me that compels me to believe. I donÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t believe in religion.

I think the two and separate entities. Religion is ManÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s interpretation of God. It relieves us all of any responsibility for our actions. It sanctions discrimination of people on the basis that itÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s Ã¢â‚¬Å“GodÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s Will.Ã¢â‚¬Â God gave a conscience and free will. We have unlimited potential. How we use it is up to us not God.

Approximately two thousand years ago a simple carpenter dared to question the prevailing religion of the time with the notion that we should treat one another with the respect that we all deserve regardless of who we are. He preached compassion to those less fortunate. It was a radical notion. So radical that he was put to death. Those that came after him took his words and twisted them to suit their own agenda and to advance their own causes. Religions have been used and are still used today to start wars and oppress people.

God doesnÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t oppress people. God doesnÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t call on people to bomb abortion clinics. God doesnÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t call on people to blow themselves up. God doesnÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t afflict innocent children with deadly viruses and makes them suffer to the bitter end. Man does all of this. As someone mentioned before, you donÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t need to believe in God to practice the Ã¢â‚¬Å“Golden Rule.Ã¢â‚¬Â Religion does not have a monopoly on morality. We all do. Somewhere along the way mankind has lost its way and it became easier to relieve ourselves of any responsibility by claiming it was required by God.

The preceeding post represents the voices inside my head.

Originally posted by Zaku_4
im an athiest.

\"There\'s nothing an agnostic can\'t do if he really doesn\'t know whether he believes in anything or not.\" - Monty Python.

Broli

07-19-2006, 11:13 AM

even in ur god rant u have to mention me!
shame on you Cardi!

I believe people have th right to believe whatever they want!

but it boggles my mind when people who are intelligent believe for the sake of believing
and this notion of Faith!

the onus of proof is on those who believe, to prove what they believe is true,

i was brought up with a mixed religion background, my mom and dad are different reglions, neither of them are any sort of christian/catholic, growing up in canada, i was surrounded by the christian religion,

i am not religious, i don\'t believe in god,

this is my position, having grown up without the force feeding of religion that is generally pushed upon children. (even when subtle)

i believe that if no one was exposed to religon until they were cognitively mature, and at that point, they learned about religion, they would see it as BS

the morals that can be instilled by religion, are good, but as mentioned they can be recieved from other sources. certainly, it was advantageous throughout history to form groups of people for protection, religion was simply one way to do that,
and it had the advantage of

1. explain the unexplainable (gods will, mysterious ways and such)
2. organize people and control them without question (religions are like the biggest cults, u tell people what to do and they do, \"what u don\'t want to do that?, well ur choice but ur going to HELL\")

through history the most corrupt organization ever, is the catholic church,
and it is the most powerful religious body in the world
enough said

Xenon

07-19-2006, 11:15 AM

Just a simple reply... take it however you want...

Is a little blind faith too much to ask? :sarc

Broli

07-19-2006, 11:22 AM

Originally posted by Xenon

Just a simple reply... take it however you want...

Is a little blind faith too much to ask? :sarc

Generally YES!

unless it is ur trusted friend asking u to take their word on something
blind faith is foolish!

bluntman

07-19-2006, 11:27 AM

Originally posted by Broli

1. explain the unexplainable (gods will, mysterious ways and such)

I asked my religion teacher to show me tangible proof that God exists. He said he couldn\'t, but he challenged me to prove that love existed. Either way, it\'s all about faith, faith in either yourself, one another or a supreme being.

Originally posted by Broli

2. organize people and control them without question (religions are like the biggest cults, u tell people what to do and they do, \"what u don\'t want to do that?, well ur choice but ur going to HELL\")

through history the most corrupt organization ever, is the catholic church,
and it is the most powerful religious body in the world

That\'s the reason why I don\'t believe in the Catholic Church, but I do believe in the
Catholic teachings. Not the literal teachings, but what those teachings stand for, respecting and caring for your fellow man. I just don\'t like those bible thumpers who try to shove it down your throat.

Xenon

07-19-2006, 11:41 AM

Originally posted by Broli

Originally posted by Xenon

Just a simple reply... take it however you want...

Is a little blind faith too much to ask? :sarc

Generally YES!

unless it is ur trusted friend asking u to take their word on something
blind faith is foolish!

For me, God is a trusted friend.

I may not see him every day, but I always feel that he is with me in one way or another. I\'m not a hardcore catholic, but I do practice my faith with pride. But let me make something clear. I whole-heartedly believe that there is a God, and I believe in and practicing the concepts and ideas of the Catholic faith, just not the rules. I believe that if you do something good for someone, you will be rewarded in this life or the next. What I don\'t believe are some of the teachings that are based on technicalities of the Catholic Faith, such as outcasting gays or sex before marriage.

There have been situations in my life that if I didn\'t believe in God, then I probably wouldn\'t have been able to get through it. What kind of God there is I don\'t know. But there are times in my life where I just saw things work out too well for it not to be a part of some \"divine plan\".

But I also believe that people should be able to believe what they want. People should do what makes them happy, and what makes those around them happy. And for doing that, they will be rewarded in one way or another.

3GFX

07-19-2006, 11:43 AM

\"Not the literal teachings, but what those teachings stand for, respecting and caring for your fellow man. I just don\'t like those bible thumpers who try to shove it down your throat.\"

We have a winner!!!

It\'s exactly as I posted above!!!

Nice one Blunty...good post

bluntman

07-19-2006, 11:49 AM

Originally posted by Xenon

For me, God is a trusted friend.

I may not see him every day, but I always feel that he is with me in one way or another. I\'m not a hardcore catholic, but I do practice my faith with pride. But let me make something clear. I whole-heartedly believe that there is a God, and I believe in and practicing the concepts and ideas of the Catholic faith, just not the rules. I believe that if you do something good for someone, you will be rewarded in this life or the next. What I don\'t believe are some of the teachings that are based on technicalities of the Catholic Faith, such as outcasting gays or sex before marriage.

+1

Jeff-TheBiz

07-19-2006, 11:49 AM

Originally posted by Zaku_4

im an athiest.

Originally posted by Broli

i don\'t believe in god,

No worries, God doesnt believe in you either.

Originally posted by bluntman

Originally posted by Broli

1. explain the unexplainable (gods will, mysterious ways and such)

I asked my religion teacher to show me tangible proof that God exists. He said he couldn\'t, but he challenged me to prove that love existed. Either way, it\'s all about faith, faith in either yourself, one another or a supreme being.

Nicely put.

Thumbs up.

Originally posted by Whos ur dadd

Today\'s question: How do they put the caramel into a Caramilk bar?

Don\'t care, but I do love getting the caramel out...

mmm. Caramel...

Xenon

07-19-2006, 11:51 AM

Originally posted by TheBiz

Originally posted by Zaku_4

im an athiest.

Originally posted by Broli

i don\'t believe in god,

No worries, God doesnt believe in you either.

HAHA... For some odd reason, I found that comment really funny....

ok I\'m done now.

bluntman

07-19-2006, 11:54 AM

I\'m going to burn in Hell for laughing out loud at that one! :(

Cardinal Fang

07-19-2006, 12:09 PM

Originally posted by bluntman

I\'m going to burn in Hell for laughing out loud at that one! :(

I checked with God just now. She said you\'ll be fine.

Carry on....

Broli

07-19-2006, 12:14 PM

for some reason i am always to antagonist!

i would never want \"god\" to beleive in me!

god cannot be a trusted friend
it is a feeling u have, yes sure!
but a trusted friend earns that trust
it is not just given cause mommy or daddy brought u up religious!

even if ur brought up in one religion and convert to another, it is a product of
programming that u have recieved from childhood.

Love and god are different things
because God is an entity of some sort, if u believe in him.
Love is an intangible!
faith and god are different things

i am not saying that faith doesn\'t exist
i am saying that god doesn\'t exist
and that ur faith is misplaced!

Blunty if u fell for the old smoke show, and forgot about the question u asked ur religion teacher, (who by the way is not an expert in anyway, but rather i highschool teacher)
then thats too bad!

edit: i also like caramels! and could care less about the secret, that is not really a secret!

bluntman

07-19-2006, 12:23 PM

Originally posted by Broli

for some reason i am always to antagonist!

We held a vote at the first meet of 2006 and we voted as the official TM3 Antagonist.

Congrats! :D

Truthfully ;), religion is a touchy subject. Declaring one religion is better than another is just as sensitive as declaring not believing is better than believing. Don\'t get me wrong, this is a great discussion, it sure beats thread capping any day and almost brings a fresh air to the typical forum discussions.

Originally posted by Broli

Blunty if u fell for the old smoke show, and forgot about the question u asked ur religion teacher, (who by the way is not an expert in anyway, but rather i highschool teacher)
then thats too bad!

edit: i also like caramels! and could care less about the secret, that is not really a secret!

That was over 10 years ago...young impressionable minds. I\'ve fomulated my own sense of religion, taking the best from all of the religions that I studied.

Anyone consider themselves to follow the Jedi religion (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jedi_census_phenomenon)?

Broli

07-19-2006, 12:35 PM

lol

that is hilarious!

and there are a lot of dorks in the world!

Cardinal Fang

07-19-2006, 12:38 PM

Originally posted by Broli

i would never want \"god\" to beleive in me!

Too bad. She does so deal with it.

Originally posted by Broli
god cannot be a trusted friend
it is a feeling u have, yes sure!
but a trusted friend earns that trust
it is not just given cause mommy or daddy brought u up religious!

Friends can betray you. Friends have betrayed me in the past. God has not. In the most trying of times my faith in God has given me the strength to do some pretty amazing things. My faith has given me a greater sense of confidence which no one can deny is a good thing. What does it matter how I came upon it?

Originally posted by Broli
even if ur brought up in one religion and convert to another, it is a product of
programming that u have recieved from childhood.

I and many others were brought up in a strict Catholic house. When I questioned my faith I was told to shut up and carry on. When you get to a certain age just towing the line isn\'t important any more. You have to find your own faith Broli. You are happy the way you are and that\'s great but don\'t use words like \"programming\" to decide that my belief in a God is foolish. YOU are programmed by society whether you know it or not. Does that make you foolish?

Originally posted by Broli
Love and god are different things
because God is an entity of some sort, if u believe in him.
Love is an intangible!
faith and god are different things

inÃ‚Â·tanÃ‚Â·giÃ‚Â·ble
1. Incapable of being perceived by the senses.
2. Incapable of being realized or defined.

If you can\'t feel love than I truly feel sorry for you. My guess is that was a poor choice of words.

Originally posted by Broli
i am not saying that faith doesn\'t exist
i am saying that god doesn\'t exist
and that ur faith is misplaced!

Sorry Broli but this is a truly Arrogant statement. In your previous post you say, \"believe what you want\" Now we are somehow misguided in our beliefs. This is no better than BIBLE THUMPERS who preach such an intransigent view of God. Who are you to tell me my belief is misplaced? How do I affect you with my belief in God? My faith teaches me tolerance. Where in your statement above is tolerance?

I can no more prove to you that God is alive than you can prove she isn\'t.

bluntman

07-19-2006, 12:40 PM

Originally posted by Broli

lol

that is hilarious!

and there are a lot of dorks in the world!

< waves right hand >

These are not the dorks you are looking for

SGT06

07-19-2006, 12:45 PM

A bit late..but what the hey...

Stalin once said : \"people need a god to look up to, why not me?\"

So who died and made who god?

Why ask why? If curiousity is the answer then why not ask \"Why is there a god?\". Is it so hard to believe that wo/mankind (trying to be politically correct) is so insignificant and so insecured that s/he would do everything including invents story to put themselves at ease when facing things that appear to be chaotic?

What do I know for I am but a single being in this vast existence of the universe. However, I satisfied to know that a tiny drop can cause ripples in a vast body of water. <Got to quit rambling!!>

:sarc

Cardinal Fang

07-19-2006, 12:54 PM

\"In the beginning, the universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry, and is generally considered to have been a bad move.\"
-- Douglas Adams, The Hitch Hiker\'s Guide to the Galaxy

:D

TheProfessor

07-19-2006, 01:20 PM

Whether or not you belive in God and/or religion is your business......the only thing that should matter is whether or not it brings you comfort and makes you happy.

Broli

07-19-2006, 01:59 PM

people do not take offence, as offensive as u may find my statements again the existence of god, know that i find ur statements about god to be equivalent!
this is a discussion, i am not attacking anyone personally

Cardi i am not a lawyer so take it ease there buddy

i do beleive that people have the right to beleive what they wany
and i do believe that if u beleive in god, u r foolish, but u have the right to be!

u know what i am saying!

Love/faith
i was trying to show that love and faith were more akin than god and love
and that faith and god were different
u can feel faith and love, but god is theoretically an entity or a presenece or a being not a feeling

of course friends can betray you!
i suspect that God not betraying u and giving u strength and what not, is more, ur own strength showing, if u don\'t want to take credit for great things u have done, well so be it, but u r the one who did it. If god would act in ur life why would SHE not act to stop terrible attrocities going on,
no offence, but what makes you so farking special that u get to feel the hand of god, and that poor innocent civilians in certain middle east countries (wont name names, that is another debate) should be slaughtered in mass!

do you see the duplicity of your belief.
why would god give you strength to better urself and not them!

is it not simply more plausable that u have better oppurtunity to make good on your own strengths than they do?

Programming
sure there is programing going on in everyone from socitey
but i have not been programmed by my family to be religous
it is very different!

SourcE

07-19-2006, 02:22 PM

I love reading about this stuff.....thanks,

IMO people that follow the bible to the letter are a little wacko.

Noah and his Ark?
Jesus walking on Water?

I am an aetheist and believe the bible is meant as a story enabling the reader to live a richer life by being nice and doing the \"right\" thing.

Religion is the number cause of unrest and war in the world, what a great legacy from our \"Gods\".

Everyone is entitled to believe in what they want, just like those Focus drivers with the big spoilers who think it looks cool...

The catholic church, has in my opinion, turned religion into a very lucrative buisiness, hell, they even have their own country.

Anyone read \"Chariots of the Gods\"? Nanoo Nanoo?

bluntman

07-19-2006, 02:26 PM

Originally posted by Broli

people do not take offence, as offensive as u may find my statements again the existence of god, know that i find ur statements about god to be equivalent!
this is a discussion, i am not attacking anyone personally

Originally posted by Broli

i do beleive that people have the right to beleive what they wany
and i do believe that if u beleive in god, u r foolish, but u have the right to be!

You see, those two statements right there contradict one another. You are not attacking anyone\'s beliefs but you are passing judgement. Is it not enough to say just to proclaim that you don\'t believe in a higher power? Why call believers foolish? Why make yourself out be superior to another?

fool-ish:
adjective
1.Lacking or exhibiting a lack of good sense or judgment; silly: foolish remarks.
2.Resulting from stupidity or misinformation; unwise: a foolish decision.
3.Arousing laughter; absurd or ridiculous: a foolish grin.
4.Immoderate or stubborn; unreasonable: foolish pride; foolish love.
5.Embarrassed; abashed: I feel foolish telling you this.
6.Insignificant; trivial: spent all their money on foolish little knickknacks.

I think we just have to respect one another\'s choice of religions or lack thereof. I don\'t think WUD wanted this thread to be a debate, religion vs. non-religion.

Broli

07-19-2006, 03:02 PM

Clarification

i was just trying to make a point
that people only seem to think that is offensive to say
\"god doesn\'t exist\"

and it is ok to say he/SHE(cardi) does!

i don\'t take offense to anything,
i am sure that is well documented throughout this board!

and foolish,
yes i think that the term is applicable

1.exhibiting a lack of good sense or judgment; silly: foolish remarks.
2.Resulting from misinformation; unwise: a foolish decision.

that is how i meant it!

to select from ur definition!

it makes no, logical sense for a god to exist
it is foolish to believe without proof of said existence

these are sound philosophies i am stating!

and Blunty!

come on!

WUD is a bstd... lol
this is exactly what he wanted!

Cardinal Fang

07-19-2006, 03:12 PM

Broli, I was going to respond to what you posted to me but after reading this quote:

Originally posted by Broli
i do beleive that people have the right to beleive what they wany
and i do believe that if u beleive in god, u r foolish, but u have the right to be!

I\'ve decided that it\'s not worth the effort other than to say you\'re a hypocrite. I\'m not supposed to take this personally right? Foolish isn\'t believing in God Broli. Foolish is believing YOUR own belief system is above everyone elseÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s.

Live and let live Broli.

Whos ur dadd

07-19-2006, 03:17 PM

Originally posted by Broli

WUD is a bstd... lol
this is exactly what he wanted!

Yup, exactly what I wanted. I wanted to understand the issue. As a matter of cocktail party etiquette, you never talk about religion or politics. But were not at a cocktail party are we? So, carry on!

Cardinal Fang

07-19-2006, 03:19 PM

Originally posted by Whos ur dadd

Yup, exactly what I wanted. I wanted to understand the issue. As a matter of cocktail party etiquette, you never talk about religion or politics. But were not at a cocktail party are we? So, carry on!

\"The Vortex of Crappetry is strong with this one.\"

</Yoda>

:D

Whos ur dadd

07-19-2006, 03:28 PM

Originally posted by Cardinal Fang

Originally posted by Whos ur dadd

Yup, exactly what I wanted. I wanted to understand the issue. As a matter of cocktail party etiquette, you never talk about religion or politics. But were not at a cocktail party are we? So, carry on!

\"The Vortex of Crappetry is strong with this one.\"

</Yoda>

:D

Come on Fang, you knowyou love this type of discussion. Broli does too. I wish he would write in full sentences though. And his spelling... it\'s atrocious. He\'s headed to purgatory for that alone.

Broli

07-19-2006, 03:28 PM

Originally posted by Cardinal Fang

Broli, I was going to respond to what you posted to me but after reading this quote:

Originally posted by Broli
i do beleive that people have the right to beleive what they wany
and i do believe that if u beleive in god, u r foolish, but u have the right to be!

I\'ve decided that it\'s not worth the effort other than to say you\'re a hypocrite. I\'m not supposed to take this personally right? Foolish isn\'t believing in God Broli. Foolish is believing YOUR own belief system is above everyone elseÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s.

Live and let live Broli.

u have to appreciate this from the angle that i see it!

it would be different if i said i believe pig could fly
and u guys all said u didn\'t beleive it and i called u
foolish!

if this was the case i would be foolish for beleiving my belief system is better than urs
but, the important thing here is that

whoever is right, be it me or you,
the other is foolish,
this we must agree on!

basically it sounds to me like u r saying pigs can fly
or i believe in magic (not majic)
and that to me seems foolish

it is ok to beleive it

and i am open minded to say
if u could prove to me that i am wrong
i would accept it

belive me,
as time moves on religion will have less and less to do with
the world

and out postions will turn
well we will all be dead
but the people who don\'t believe will outnumber those who do believe

it is ineveitable!

i would concede this point!

the big bang
was something coming from nothing
or if u beleive in a multidimentional universe, with big bangs occuring on top of eachother
creating alternate dimensions

then, the first big bang
was someting coming from nothing

how this occured is beyond out comprehension at least for now

but, i would say that something came from nothing
u might call that act of something coming from nothing god

not that god caused it to happen
but rather the act it self is what u call god!

i could accept that!
but then god is an event
and not a entitity
and that is an important distiction!!

Broli

07-19-2006, 03:31 PM

Originally posted by Whos ur dadd

Originally posted by Cardinal Fang

Originally posted by Whos ur dadd

Yup, exactly what I wanted. I wanted to understand the issue. As a matter of cocktail party etiquette, you never talk about religion or politics. But were not at a cocktail party are we? So, carry on!

\"The Vortex of Crappetry is strong with this one.\"

</Yoda>

:D

Come on Fang, you knowyou love this type of discussion. Broli does too. I wish he would write in full sentences though. And his spelling... it\'s atrocious. He\'s headed to purgatory for that alone.

fark you

i grew up in a world of spell check and autocorrect
and it shows in my writing

but i don\'t check this shit over
i just write it
and move on

it is never bad enought that u don\'t know what i am talking about!

u diG?

bluntman

07-19-2006, 03:34 PM

Originally posted by Broli

and Blunty!

come on!

WUD is a bstd... lol
this is exactly what he wanted!

Damn you WUD! Leave it up to Broli to make me see light. I looked behind the green curtain (Wizard of Oz reference) and I see your trickery. Damn you!!!! :D

Good thing I didn\'t look behind the green door (porn reference).

Whos ur dadd

07-19-2006, 03:41 PM

Originally posted by Broli

Originally posted by Whos ur dadd

Originally posted by Cardinal Fang

Originally posted by Whos ur dadd

Yup, exactly what I wanted. I wanted to understand the issue. As a matter of cocktail party etiquette, you never talk about religion or politics. But were not at a cocktail party are we? So, carry on!

\"The Vortex of Crappetry is strong with this one.\"

</Yoda>

:D

Come on Fang, you knowyou love this type of discussion. Broli does too. I wish he would write in full sentences though. And his spelling... it\'s atrocious. He\'s headed to purgatory for that alone.

fark you

i grew up in a world of spell check and autocorrect
and it shows in my writing

but i don\'t check this shit over
i just write it
and move on

it is never bad enought that u don\'t know what i am talking about!

u diG?

take it ease mang

Cardinal Fang

07-19-2006, 03:45 PM

Originally posted by bluntman

Good thing I didn\'t look behind the green door (porn reference).

http://img479.imageshack.us/img479/5642/behindthegreendoor197201dq4.th.jpg (http://img479.imageshack.us/my.php?image=behindthegreendoor197201dq4.jpg)

Don\'t ask.....

bluntman

07-19-2006, 03:48 PM

Am I showing my age?

Cardinal Fang

07-19-2006, 03:50 PM

That I\'m not sure about but you have revealed your taste in porn.

:D

Whos ur dadd

07-19-2006, 03:58 PM

He shall strike the two of you down for bringing porn into a discussion of His existence. Shame.

Broli

07-19-2006, 04:06 PM

Originally posted by Whos ur dadd

Originally posted by Broli

Originally posted by Whos ur dadd

Originally posted by Cardinal Fang

Originally posted by Whos ur dadd

Yup, exactly what I wanted. I wanted to understand the issue. As a matter of cocktail party etiquette, you never talk about religion or politics. But were not at a cocktail party are we? So, carry on!

\"The Vortex of Crappetry is strong with this one.\"

</Yoda>

:D

Come on Fang, you knowyou love this type of discussion. Broli does too. I wish he would write in full sentences though. And his spelling... it\'s atrocious. He\'s headed to purgatory for that alone.

fark you

i grew up in a world of spell check and autocorrect
and it shows in my writing

but i don\'t check this shit over
i just write it
and move on

it is never bad enought that u don\'t know what i am talking about!

u diG?

take it ease mang

W3RD

and . ..

hahahaha
blunty

1. the porn, i have never heard of that, but i will check it out soon
2. i showed u the light! booya!

he revealed his taste in porn?
what kind of porn is this?

and

god loves porn hello!

well, i will propose a topic

what is ur favourite kind of porn!

do u like
reg
ethnic
fetishes
same sex action
toys
gang bangs
orgies
pregnant
lactating
migets
transsexuals
anal

this can be as fevered a discussion as the god stuff!

if god existed, he\'d like midgets!
lol
booya

Whos ur dadd

07-19-2006, 04:07 PM

Since blunty so succinctly answered today\'s Caramilk question, today\'s Supplemental question is: Should a woman have the right to have an abortion?

You think I am posting this question to stir the pot even further (well, yes I am), but I am really conflicted on this one. If you had asked me years ago, I would have been staunchly pro-choice. No question about it. But once we had kids, I have changed my mind (somewhat). I find it offensive on my part to think that I could require a woman to carry an unwanted baby to term, but I\'ve also been so moved by thoughts of severed baby parts... And all of this once I had kids. It didn\'t have this effect on me prior to kids.

Weird.

Broli

07-19-2006, 04:08 PM

edit:

if the door is green, i don\'t think i wanna look behind it!

lol

Cardinal Fang

07-19-2006, 04:16 PM

Originally posted by Whos ur dadd

Since blunty so succintly answered today\'s Caramilk question, today\'s Supplemental question is: Should a woman have the right to have an abortion?

This all started when we gave them the right to vote.

\"Yes sir I\'ll take that express ticket to hell and I\'d like an aisle seat if you don\'t mind.\"

Whos ur dadd

07-19-2006, 04:18 PM

Originally posted by Cardinal Fang

Originally posted by Whos ur dadd

Since blunty so succintly answered today\'s Caramilk question, today\'s Supplemental question is: Should a woman have the right to have an abortion?

This all started when we gave them the right to vote.

\"Yes sir I\'ll take that express ticket to hell and I\'d like an asile seat if you don\'t mind.\"

Supplemental Question 2.a - Should women have the right to vote?

Cardinal Fang

07-19-2006, 04:21 PM

Only if they vote for the right for two hot lesbians to get married.

Broli

07-19-2006, 05:25 PM

i like to let the women make the choices!

like if they wanna use butter or oil when they make eggs for breakfast

i dont give a shit

just come and wake me when its ready!!

lol

abortions!

if the girl doesn wan\'t an abortion!
we give her the broli abortion!

whoops
i didn\'t mean to punch u in the stomach
i hope the baby is ok . . .
lol

TheProfessor

07-19-2006, 06:52 PM

Oh man, I really want to respond to about 20 points in this thread but I just don\'t have the patience so I\'ll do it with one point:

You all are a bunch of farktards.

Whos ur dadd

07-19-2006, 07:16 PM

So much hate, not enough love.

SourcE

07-20-2006, 12:24 PM

Funny, that\'s all.

Why Can\'t I Own a Canadian?

October 2002

Dr. Laura Schlessinger is a radio personality who dispenses advice to people who call in to her radio show. Recently, she said that homosexuality is an abomination according to Leviticus 18:22 and cannot be condoned under any circumstance. The following is an open letter to Dr. Laura penned by a east coast resident, which was posted on the Internet. It\'s funny, as well as informative:

Dear Dr. Laura:

Thank you for doing so much to educate people regarding God\'s Law. I have learned a great deal from your show, and try to share that knowledge with as many people as I can. When someone tries to defend the homosexual lifestyle, for example, I simply remind them that Leviticus 18:22 clearly states it to be an abomination. End of debate. I do need some advice from you, however, regarding some of the other specific laws and how to follow them:

When I burn a bull on the altar as a sacrifice, I know it creates a pleasing odor for the Lord - Lev.1:9. The problem is my neighbors. They claim the odor is not pleasing to them. Should I smite them?

I would like to sell my daughter into slavery, as sanctioned in Exodus 21:7. In this day and age, what do you think would be a fair price for her?

I know that I am allowed no contact with a woman while she is in her period of menstrual uncleanliness - Lev.15:19- 24. The problem is, how do I tell? I have tried asking, but most women take offense.

Lev. 25:44 states that I may indeed possess slaves, both male and female, provided they are purchased from neighboring nations. A friend of mine claims that this applies to Mexicans, but not Canadians. Can you clarify? Why can\'t I own Canadians?

I have a neighbor who insists on working on the Sabbath. Exodus 35:2 clearly states he should be put to death. Am I morally obligated to kill him myself?

A friend of mine feels that even though eating shellfish is an abomination - Lev. 11:10, it is a lesser abomination than homosexuality. I don\'t agree. Can you settle this?

Lev. 21:20 states that I may not approach the altar of God if I have a defect in my sight. I have to admit that I wear reading glasses. Does my vision have to be 20/20, or is there some wiggle room here?

Most of my male friends get their hair trimmed, including the hair around their temples, even though this is expressly forbidden by Lev. 19:27. How should they die?

I know from Lev. 11:6-8 that touching the skin of a dead pig makes me unclean, but may I still play football if I wear gloves?

My uncle has a farm. He violates Lev. 19:19 by planting two different crops in the same field, as does his wife by wearing garments made of two different kinds of thread (cotton/polyester blend). He also tends to curse and blaspheme a lot. Is it really necessary that we go to all the trouble of getting the whole town together to stone them? - Lev.24:10-16. Couldn\'t we just burn them to death at a private family affair like we do with people who sleep with their in-laws? (Lev. 20:14)

I know you have studied these things extensively, so I am confident you can help. Thank you again for reminding us that God\'s word is eternal and unchanging.

Your devoted fan,
Jim

:D

Broli

07-20-2006, 12:57 PM

^^^ that is great!

LMAFO

genius response!

Whos ur dadd

07-20-2006, 02:19 PM

Nice SourcE!!!

Cardinal Fang

07-20-2006, 02:25 PM

Her fall from grace was fun to watch.

:D

Whos ur dadd

07-20-2006, 05:50 PM

Today\'s question:

So I knows Einstone penned the famous E = mc2 formula, but what the heck does it really mean? As in does it have any practical application for life on earth, or does it have to do with space travel and aliens and UFOs?

Whos ur dadd

07-20-2006, 06:01 PM

Actually, I have a more important question that\'s been buggin me for ages (religion related, what a surprise!):

What is the meaning of Joan Osbourne\'s song, \"One of Us\"

If God had a name, what would it be
And would you call it to his face
If you were faced with him in all his glory
What would you ask if you had just one question

And yeah yeah God is great yeah yeah God is good
yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah

What if God was one of us
Just a slob like one of us
Just a stranger on the bus
Trying to make his way home

If God had a face what would it look like
And would you want to see
If seeing meant that you would have to believe
In things like heaven and in jesus and the saints and all the prophets

And yeah yeah god is great yeah yeah god is good
yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah

What if God was one of us
Just a slob like one of us
Just a stranger on the bus
Trying to make his way home
He\'s trying to make his way home
Back up to heaven all alone
Nobody calling on the phone
Except for the pope maybe in rome

And yeah yeah God is great yeah yeah God is good
yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah

What if god was one of us
Just a slob like one of us
Just a stranger on the bus
Trying to make his way home
Just trying to make his way home
Like a holy rolling stone
Back up to heaven all alone
Just trying to make his way home
Nobody calling on the phone
Except for the pope maybe in rome

Zaku_4

07-21-2006, 12:43 PM

lol

life is like purchasing summer tires. some people want them to that last longer, some people just want to have fun, and some people want the best of both worlds.

tis not that i dunno whether to believe in it or not, its that i dont care. dont u think its frustrating to understand things through whatever perspective people tell you to? how about just looking through the looking glass without an opinion on why whatever your looking at is happening.

Cardinal Fang

07-21-2006, 12:48 PM

Originally posted by Whos ur dadd

Today\'s question:

So I knows Einstone penned the famous E = mc2 formula, but what the heck does it really mean? As in does it have any practical application for life on earth, or does it have to do with space travel and aliens and UFOs?

Einstone was a character from the Fred Flintstones cartoon series. Einstien was German-born American theoretical physicist.

\"This formula proposes that when a body has a mass (measured at rest), it has a certain (very large) amount of energy associated with this mass. \"

\"The E of the formula can be seen as the total energy of the body, which is proportional to the mass of the body.\"

In practical terms, when reading your questions my right arm is at my side at rest (M). Although it may not be doing anything it can, if tempted enough, exert enough energy (E) to administer a cock punch. This total energy is directly proportional to the mass of my hand at my side. If I so choose, and believe I\'ve been thinking about it quite a bit. I can hold a brick in my hand and therefore have enough potential energy to really do some harm to you. This of course can only be tested in a vacuum where the speed of light (c2) comes into play. Unfortunately, my Shrink-O-Zap gun has been misplaced so you\'ll we\'ll have to pretend we\'re fighting in a Dyson.

Zaku_4

07-21-2006, 12:49 PM

umm

wild guess but:

energy = mass x <something> ^squared lol

Cardinal Fang

07-21-2006, 01:05 PM

Oh and as as for the Joan Osbourne song I think she was tripping after a bad hit of acid.

Whos ur dadd

07-21-2006, 01:22 PM

Fack, you high school drop-outs are dumb as posts. I guess Einstone\'s Theory of Relatives is beyond you mofos.

Today\'s question: Why can\'t chicken\'s fly? I mean, they have wings (which can be quite yummy if cooked properly...) and feathers and such.

Broli

07-21-2006, 03:04 PM

lol

dumbasses!

either way
the joan osborne song
is all about how she want to have sex with jesus but is too late!

since his ass is dead!

chicken do fly for the same reason male nipple don\'t give milk

u dig!

and . . .

Einstein, go look it up
it is a facinating premise

Whos ur dadd

07-21-2006, 04:14 PM

Originally posted by Broli

lol

dumbasses!

either way
the joan osborne song
is all about how she want to have sex with jesus but is too late!

since his ass is dead!

chicken do fly for the same reason male nipple don\'t give milk

u dig!

and . . .

Einstein, go look it up
it is a facinating premise

You\'ve been dipping too much into the treatment cabinet there broli. I have no idea what u just wrote.

SourcE

07-21-2006, 04:18 PM

Originally posted by Whos ur dadd
I guess Einstone\'s Theory of Relatives is beyond you mofos.

I that the one about not sleeping with your sister, unless she\'s hot?

iconicrocket

07-21-2006, 04:25 PM

Originally posted by Broli

chicken do fly for the same reason male nipple don\'t give milk

That\'s deep Broli, I actually understood your analogy. :hoho

... Wait, that doesn\'t make sense. Don\'t you mean, chickens don\'t fly for the same reason male nipple don\'t give milk?

Whos ur dadd

07-21-2006, 05:08 PM

Originally posted by SourcE

I that the one about not sleeping with your sister, unless she\'s hot?

Tomorrow\'s question: Is it okay to sleep with your sister if she becomes your sister by marriage?

Whos ur dadd

07-21-2006, 05:13 PM

Originally posted by iconicrocket

That\'s deep Broli, I actually understood your analogy. :hoho

... Wait, that doesn\'t make sense. Don\'t you mean, chickens don\'t fly for the same reason male nipple don\'t give milk?

By asking broli to explain himself, you are about to open Pandora\'s toilet.

Whos ur dadd

07-26-2006, 02:50 PM

Today\'s query:

Why does running water sometime go cloudy white and then clear up? Sometimes it happens, but not all the time? I recall it\'s safe to drink, but it just turns me off quite frankly.

majic

07-26-2006, 02:58 PM

Originally posted by Whos ur dadd

Today\'s query:

Why does running water sometime go cloudy white and then clear up? Sometimes it happens, but not all the time? I recall it\'s safe to drink, but it just turns me off quite frankly.

although you don\'t live in Tucson, i believe this (http://www.ci.tucson.az.us/water/cloudy_water.htm) would apply to you as well :)

3GFX

07-26-2006, 03:24 PM

Well that answered the question :p

Just let your tap run people, that way you get the cool, fresh, clear water :D

Broli

07-26-2006, 03:54 PM

arg

whoops

i meant dont!

Whos ur dadd

07-27-2006, 01:56 PM

In light of Blunty\'s recent post on cycling drug testing (http://torontomazda3.com/forum/read.php?TID=7033&page=1), what happened to the accusations against Lance Armstrong re: doping (where they tested some urine/blood taken from a Tour event years ago. Wasn\'t too long ago, but I missed the follow up.

bluntman

07-27-2006, 02:25 PM

Some say it\'s the French retaliating for having an American win their precious race (in 1999). Eventually, they embraced Armstrong and the controversy subsided.

Whos ur dadd

07-27-2006, 02:27 PM

So nothing came of the positive results put forth by the testing lab? I think Dick Pound made some comments about it several months ago (or maybe it was last year...).

Whos ur dadd

07-29-2006, 11:31 AM

Today\'s question relates to Internet privacy.

So when you visit sites like dumpalink, you get all these banners of hot and horny ladies who want to meet up with WUD. Interestingly enough, they\'re all from Markham, Richmond Hill, Stouffville.

What information does a third party really know about me? I guess it has to do with an IP address?

So, I guess a person who owns a website...say TM3 website owner...has greater access to my profile than say someone at their home computer...say a TM3 member?

Really curious about this!

Whos ur dadd

08-01-2006, 09:20 AM

Originally posted by Whos ur dadd

Today\'s question relates to Internet privacy.

So when you visit sites like dumpalink, you get all these banners of hot and horny ladies who want to meet up with WUD. Interestingly enough, they\'re all from Markham, Richmond Hill, Stouffville.

What information does a third party really know about me? I guess it has to do with an IP address?

So, I guess a person who owns a website...say TM3 website owner...has greater access to my profile than say someone at their home computer...say a TM3 member?

Really curious about this!

Hey man, really curious about this! majic, where are you?

Whos ur dadd

08-15-2006, 09:49 AM

Does anyone still use 56K dial up? I mean in town. I would understand maybe the cottage, but certainly not in town.

I mean, how could you possibly watch the monk one-finger-stand via 56K - impossible!

Cardinal Fang

08-15-2006, 09:55 AM

There\'s only one thing worse than high speed porn. Low speed porn.

3GFX

08-15-2006, 09:59 AM

Unfortunatly I didn\'t get to watch the monk video, because A) I can\'t access it at work, and B) my dial up at home (56k) is so slow its not worth my time. I live just slightly out of town (Kitchener). I get on average a speed of 1.5 - 2.5 kb/s :zzz

SO BE THANKFUL FOR YOUR HIGH SPEED

while I sit here and wonder about the monk. :(

Oh and just for your info, I tried loading the star trek thing at home, took over 6 minutes, and then I said ahh **** it.

Whos ur dadd

08-15-2006, 10:03 AM

Originally posted by 3GFX

while I sit here and wonder about the monk. :(

Don\'t worry, the monk video wasn\'t that great. I mean do they really have beautiful Baywatch-clad lifeguards in Tibet? I think not. And then the beautiful nurses in mini-skirted uniforms - now that was way over the top.

TheProfessor

08-15-2006, 10:03 AM

I cannot believe they do not offer high speed in the KW area.....where are you, in Elmira with the Amish?

3GFX

08-15-2006, 10:18 AM

Originally posted by TheProfessor

I cannot believe they do not offer high speed in the KW area.....where are you, in Elmira with the Amish?

KW does have high speed. People like 1km away have it, I am just on the one stretch of the one road that doesn\'t have the capability :p

Originally posted by Whos ur dadd

Originally posted by 3GFX

while I sit here and wonder about the monk. :(

Don\'t worry, the monk video wasn\'t that great. I mean do they really have beautiful Baywatch-clad lifeguards in Tibet? I think not. And then the beautiful nurses in mini-skirted uniforms - now that was way over the top.

Why would I worry about \'clad\' lifeguards and mini-skirt nurses? Didn\'t you read Fang\'s post?...

Originally posted by Cardinal Fang

There\'s only one thing worse than high speed porn. Low speed porn.

Porn is still porn ;)

majic

08-15-2006, 10:18 AM

you mean you guys have phone lines??? :hoho VoIP baby.. VoIP!!!

Whos ur dadd

08-15-2006, 10:26 AM

Originally posted by majic

you mean you guys have phone lines??? :hoho VoIP baby.. VoIP!!!

Does VoIP work well? I guess you have no service if the power goes down? Anyone have local thru Rogers?

TheProfessor

08-15-2006, 10:43 AM

Originally posted by Whos ur dadd

Originally posted by majic

you mean you guys have phone lines??? :hoho VoIP baby.. VoIP!!!

Does VoIP work well? I guess you have no service if the power goes down? Anyone have local thru Rogers?

There is a battery back up with Rogers but I\'m not sure how long it lasts (~2 hours). For me there is just no incentive to switch from Bell. I would only be saving $5 per month and I don\'t like the idea of losing phone service during a power outage or possibly not having access to 911/emergency services. Also, it would require some pretty ugly wiring to run across a room in my condo from the cable modem to the VoiP box.

Cardinal Fang

08-15-2006, 10:56 AM

You may want to contact your home alarm company before you decide to VOIP. Many alarm companies require active phone lines to monitor your home alarm. They need more time to switch over the technology to VOIP.

majic

08-15-2006, 11:15 AM

Originally posted by Whos ur dadd

Originally posted by majic

you mean you guys have phone lines??? :hoho VoIP baby.. VoIP!!!

Does VoIP work well? I guess you have no service if the power goes down? Anyone have local thru Rogers?

so far.. YES.. i am ironing some kinks out at the moment.. like.. when i d/l \"one night in broli\'s mom\" the numbers dialed get a little whacked out.. my POS router\'s QoS doesn\'t work too well :(

majic

08-15-2006, 11:23 AM

Originally posted by TheProfessor

Originally posted by Whos ur dadd

Originally posted by majic

you mean you guys have phone lines??? :hoho VoIP baby.. VoIP!!!

Does VoIP work well? I guess you have no service if the power goes down? Anyone have local thru Rogers?

There is a battery back up with Rogers but I\'m not sure how long it lasts (~2 hours). For me there is just no incentive to switch from Bell. I would only be saving $5 per month and I don\'t like the idea of losing phone service during a power outage or possibly not having access to 911/emergency services. Also, it would require some pretty ugly wiring to run across a room in my condo from the cable modem to the VoiP box.

1) battery backup - how often are you w/o power? yah i thought so.. besides.. for the emergency times there are cellphones
2) $5 mth? wow.. our bill went from ALMOST $60/mth with tax to $19.32/mth tax in
3) ugly wiring.. yes that would be the ONLY downside if your phone sits far away from the phone
4) there are some cool features such as a \'0\' out option or vmail as an email attachment.. can maBell do that? :p

next thing on my list (once bell disconnects us) is to plug the phone wire from the VoIP gateway into the plug in the wall and see if other phones can be plugged into the houe wiring.. :D

majic

08-15-2006, 11:24 AM

Originally posted by Cardinal Fang

You may want to contact your home alarm company before you decide to VOIP. Many alarm companies require active phone lines to monitor your home alarm. They need more time to switch over the technology to VOIP.

who needs an alarm? any time someone walks by your house, force your child to see a picture of Broli.. that\'ll make them scream..

vanpatrick81

08-15-2006, 11:34 AM

3) ugly wiring.. yes that would be the ONLY downside if your phone sits far away from the phone

hmm quite redundant that the phone would be sitting far away from the phone :p

next thing on my list (once bell disconnects us) is to plug the phone wire from the VoIP gateway into the plug in the wall and see if other phones can be plugged into the houe wiring.. :D

my friend currently has his VoIP plugged straight into the main (distribution or whatever you call the thing where bell\'s line is hooked up and then it splits it to all the phone outlets in your house) and it works as long as you have a clear signal. so now all he does is plug a phone on any phone outlet in his house and voila, he has VoIP line. :)

majic

08-15-2006, 11:38 AM

Originally posted by vanpatrick81

3) ugly wiring.. yes that would be the ONLY downside if your phone sits far away from the phone

hmm quite redundant that the phone would be sitting far away from the phone :p

shaddap.. before i delete YOU :D
phonejack you jackass :D

Originally posted by vanpatrick81
my friend currently has his VoIP plugged straight into the main (distribution or whatever you call the thing where bell\'s line is hooked up and then it splits it to all the phone outlets in your house) and it works as long as you have a clear signal. so now all he does is plug a phone on any phone outlet in his house and voila, he has VoIP line. :)

cool.. except that it\'s in teh basement and the cable modem isn\'t.. we\'ll see.. it SHOULD work from any other phone jack though..

TheProfessor

08-15-2006, 11:49 AM

Originally posted by majic
1) battery backup - how often are you w/o power? yah i thought so.. besides.. for the emergency times there are cellphones
2) $5 mth? wow.. our bill went from ALMOST $60/mth with tax to $19.32/mth tax in
3) ugly wiring.. yes that would be the ONLY downside if your phone sits far away from the phone
4) there are some cool features such as a \'0\' out option or vmail as an email attachment.. can maBell do that? :p

1) Not often at all, but still, the one time you\'ll need a live phone line you won\'t have it
2) My wife and I do not use our home phone for much so we have a fairly basic $30/mth package
3) You agree so I don\'t have to argue this point
4) Why would I want to send my VM to somebody else via e-mail?

I\'m not saying that I won\'t switch to VoIP, but right now there are too few incentives to bother.

majic

08-15-2006, 12:00 PM

1) Not often at all, but still, the one time you\'ll need a live phone line you won\'t have it - true.. i guess it\'s hard to teach an old dog new tricks ;) :D
2) My wife and I do not use our home phone for much so we have a fairly basic $30/mth package - i see where the savings may not warrant the trouble.. did i mention 5c/min (if you don\'t get a \'plan\' for LD to can/us and many other countries
3) You agree so I don\'t have to argue this point - moot point
4) Why would I want to send my VM to somebody else via e-mail? - to yourself.. say you\'re waiting for some phone call, you can redirect your # to your work phone or receive an email on your bberry and hear the vmail left on your house phone.. just something to make the life a tad easier - maybe a gimmick but it\'s damn cool :)

TheProfessor

08-15-2006, 01:12 PM

Originally posted by majic

1) Not often at all, but still, the one time you\'ll need a live phone line you won\'t have it - true.. i guess it\'s hard to teach an old dog new tricks ;) :D

Retaliation for that \'youngin\' comment I made eh?

2) My wife and I do not use our home phone for much so we have a fairly basic $30/mth package - i see where the savings may not warrant the trouble.. did i mention 5c/min (if you don\'t get a \'plan\' for LD to can/us and many other countries

We don\'t call anybody long distance with any frequency.

3) You agree so I don\'t have to argue this point - moot point

Meaning I won!

4) Why would I want to send my VM to somebody else via e-mail? - to yourself.. say you\'re waiting for some phone call, you can redirect your # to your work phone or receive an email on your bberry and hear the vmail left on your house phone.. just something to make the life a tad easier - maybe a gimmick but it\'s damn cool :)

But I can check my Bell Canada voicemail from anywhere. And if the call was truly urgent, why wouldn\'t I just have the person call my cell anyways?

Booyakasha!

majic

08-15-2006, 02:13 PM

*sigh* lost cause i see :p :D

hellinar

08-15-2006, 10:35 PM

Skimmed through the lounge, saw this thread and read it as \"Daddy of wonder\" so here\'s what I thought:

http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/6924/wall1smlzk1.jpg

Sorry i didnt really read the thread :)

Whos ur dadd

08-18-2006, 12:33 PM

Today\'s question:

0-60 runs via a camcorder

Just curious, can I time my 0-60 runs via a camcorder? My camcorder has a xx:xx:xx display to show minutes:seconds:frames. It\'s 30 frames per second, so each frame number would be 1/30th of a second.

So, if I record my speedo, will I be able to calculate a more accurate measure than simply by way of handheld stopwatch? Or does the time/space continuum fabric get ripped by the use of such a method? Pipe up ya geeks!

Don\'t hate me \'cuz I\'m stupid...

The WUD

majic

08-18-2006, 12:38 PM

Originally posted by Whos ur dadd

Today\'s question:

0-60 runs via a camcorder

Just curious, can I time my 0-60 runs via a camcorder? My camcorder has a xx:xx:xx display to show minutes:seconds:frames. It\'s 30 frames per second, so each frame number would be 1/30th of a second.

So, if I record my speedo, will I be able to calculate a more accurate measure than simply by way of handheld stopwatch? Or does the time/space continuum fabric get ripped by the use of such a method? Pipe up ya geeks!

Don\'t hate me \'cuz I\'m stupid...

The WUD

the reaction time will be non existent (a few tenths that can trun into some extra time you shoudl add to your run) and unless you have a digital spedometer the 60mph mark will be quite subjective considering the mph readout is probably very small on your speedo (not the bannana hammock) but yah.. it\'ll be a better approximation than a stop watch imo..

Whos ur dadd

08-22-2006, 02:22 PM

^^^ Thx majic. Gonna try some runs this weekend.

Today\'s question:

Should we have some form of privatized health care? I think there are some inefficiencies in the public system that can be done away with via a privatized system, but the socialist in me does not want to admit there will be at least two classes of health care, with the rich jumping the queue to faster service and reaping the benefits of better technology. On the other hand, as my parents grow older (as I do as well), I struggle with the notion that I would like the best possible care for family, even if it means going down to the U.S. until similar standards are avaiable here. What a dilemma.