Rear ended on the QEW, **pix now added.

[SourcE]

So, some 85 yr old women rear ended me whilst I was stationery in traffic on the QEW.

She must been doing about 30-40kmh and bang, right up my backside.

Quote from the cop, \"she seems out of it to me....!\"

Gonna go take some photo\'s now, I\'ll post up later.

[bluntman]

I hope everyone involved is OK.

[Chuckie]

Old people really need to be tested every year..
Nothing against the driving skill of old people but their motor skills and vision deteriorate over time. Reaction time slows and etc...
It wouldn\'t be that much of a hassle for them either, it\'s not like they\'ve anything better to do.

It would be alot safer for all of us.

[SourcE]

Yup, everyone except Axela is fine thanks

:p

[SourcE]

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OK, questions for all.

Anyone heard of Prochilo Bros. Auto Collision in Scarborough? The tow truck guy recommended them (obviousely gets a kick-back, but whatever) If so, good or bad?
Alternatively, should I take it to MoT to get the work done by a \"proper\" place?

Does it look like it may get written off?

I got a Ford Taurus as a rental, it was waiting for me at the body-shop, the tow truck guy called ahead and sorted it out (probably gets a kick-back here too....!)

Any thoughts or suggestions would be greatly appreciated, thanks all.

[bluntman]

Holy sh*t! I wasn\'t expecting it to be that bad! Have your insurance company look at it first and have them recommend a place.

Hopefully the Axela badge can be reused.

[SABIO]

Just have them give you an estimate. you DON\'T have to get it fixed there!!!

Get at least 3 Quotes. Insurance?? Looks like it will cost a shit-load of money to fix :(

Good thing is your Bumper is untouched. Look at it...not even scratched... Lol Good to know when someone drives into a 3 they actually drive over it :)

.. Why was your car towed?? It looks driveable...if you can drive it, you don\'t need a tow! Just rip of the back bumper cover...bend out the wheel well a bit.. done.. drive anywhere and get an estimate

[SourcE]

Originally posted by SABIO
.. Why was your car towed?? It looks driveable...if you can drive it, you don\'t need a tow! Just rip of the back bumper cover...bend out the wheel well a bit.. done.. drive anywhere and get an estimate

cop said it had to be towed, are you sure I can rip off the bumper and drive legally?


Originally posted by SABIO
Get at least 3 Quotes. Insurance?? Looks like it will cost a shit-load of money to fix

\'cause I got rear-ended and wasn\'t even moving, is it likely my premium will go up?

the police took all the info for both parties, all gave me a accident report, but theres nothing written on it regarding how the accident took place, and who is at fault....!

i guess i\'ll ring around insurance, cops etc tomorrow and get a better understanding of what\'s going on....


Originally posted by SABIO
untouched bumper quote....
tow-truck guy said that as she didn\'t even brake to avoid me the front of her car stayed up, had she braked, the front would have dipped and damaged the bumper more

[Whos ur dadd]

HOLY CRAP, that\'s a lotta damage!

Hope it\'s a write off \'cuz it\'ll be Mazda5 or CX7 time!

[SourcE]

Originally posted by Whos ur dadd
Hope it\'s a write off \'cuz it\'ll be Mazda5 or CX7 time!

lol

[Whos ur dadd]

Since it\'s going through insurance, get it done right. I wouldn\'t go through the independent garage recommended by the tow operator.

I don\'t think you need to get three quotes. As long as your insurance company doesn\'t have any issues with the shop, you can get it done there.

[TheProfessor]

Wow that\'s a lot of damage. Glad you\'re okay though. I agree with WUD, since insurance is covering it get it done right by the dealership.

[SourcE]

Jeff and Joe, see you monday.....!

:p

[SABIO]

The bumper is fine... just the cover is F**ked. I guess the problem would be the brake lights not working :( But if they work... why not drive it somewhere else.

A pick-up just has a piece of steel on the back.

As for the cop... try and talk to him directly. Talk to him and ask why there was nothing on the report about *Her* hitting *You*!

and yes. Glad there were no serious injuries... unless your neck starts to hurt...and your back is all buggered... You could Sue .. get lots of cash.. and get a BMW :)

[Mica3SGT]

Most Mazda dealers don\'t do paint and collision work onsite as they outsource this work. Not a great idea and inconsistent results.

Take it to Allcar Auto Body in Weston and ask for Saher at 416-244-3710. Tell him Steve told you to call him. These guys do AMAZING work, they are not cheap but do the work right the first time with OEM parts. They do all Kodak Canada\'s fleet as well as numerous lease fleet companies. These companies all insist on Allcar to do any collision work on their fleet vehicles. I let them do my baby (not the 3 - see my sig) and right now they are working on some awesome vehicles as well as collision stuff. If you love your car - see these guys, they do meticulous detail and great paint.
http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/8763/allcar150js6.th.jpg (http://img205.imageshack.us/my.php?image=allcar150js6.jpg)

[SIM SIMMA]

Ouch :(

sure you are tired of hearing it... but yeah I didn\'t expect to see that much damage if she was going 30-40km.. wow.

[FLIPDADY]

Actually we have Prochillo Bros. as one of our customers. Not the Scarborough location though. The one on Toryork drive. They come highly recommended by the collision reporting centre just a few buildings down. They do get a lot of Mazda 3\'s there and their work is top notch.

Just come by today James.

[Cardinal Fang]

SAVE THE AXELA EMBLEM!
SAVE THE AXELA EMBLEM!
SAVE THE AXELA EMBLEM!
SAVE THE AXELA EMBLEM!
SAVE THE AXELA EMBLEM!

Sorry to hear about your accident SourcE. No signs of whiplash?

[MAZDA Kitten]

Yikes... trust me; I feel your pain. I was in a hit and run accident and the damage looked *similar* to yours but I was hit on an angel. Anyways, just to give you a heads up my damages were around $6500 :(
The tow trucks showed up first before the cops. LOL Anyways I actually called ROADSIDE ASSISTANCE because it was FREE and my insurance company wouldnt have to cover the cost of a tow truck. I had towed to a Mazda dealership local to me (Mountain Mazda) and they have a body shop they deal with which I trust their work (and they turned out to be AWESOME I would recommend them to anyone but they are in Hamilton - D\'Angelo\'s). Anyways...

Its gonna be a long journey now; and I am pretty sure they will not write it off. We thought my car was gone FOR SURE but there was no frame/suspension damage so they ok\'d the work.
Good luck with everything. Keep us posted.

[SourcE]

Originally posted by MAZDA Kitten
and I am pretty sure they will not write it off.

So basically my re-sale value is screwed and there\'s nothing I can do about it.

effin fabulous

[TheProfessor]

Originally posted by SourcE



Originally posted by MAZDA Kitten
and I am pretty sure they will not write it off.

So basically my re-sale value is screwed and there\'s nothing I can do about it.

effin fabulous

Unfortunately I think that will be the case.....I take it your car isn\'t leased?

[SourcE]

nope, not leased.

and to think I was about to get a Mz5, frak...! ;)

at least I made it onto 680 news......

\"delays on East-bound Gardiner at Jamieson due to 2 car accident in the centre lane\"

[MAZDA Kitten]

Well just give you an idea here are my pics and it wasnt written off

http://home.mountaincable.net/~dziuram/agatha/Mazda/DSC00680.jpg

http://home.mountaincable.net/~dziuram/agatha/Mazda/DSC00685.jpg

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[SourcE]

Just talked to Santo at Prochilo Bros. They belong to the \"Certified First Network\" whatever that is. He made it sound rather fancy though, so I have high hopes for this bodyshop.

He roughly quoted at around $4-$6k damage, but didn\'t notice the front end damage so that may well go up.

He seemed to think it was all bodywork, but will need to check further to be sure, just waiting on the call from Meloche Monex now.....

[bluntman]

Make sure they (the body shop or your insurance company) give you a warranty on the work. I remember on my previous vehicle after a front end collision, I noticed some condensation in my headlight. I took the car to the dealership to have them look at it and they reported back to me that the body shop had resealed the headlight instead of replacing it. I asked the service rep for a written report outlining the problem and the cause of the problem. I immediately called my insurance company who eventually authorized a replacement of the headlight housing.

Just remember, eventhough the insurance company will do everything in their power to put you back on the road, they aren\'t above trying to save a few bucks in the meantime.

[TheProfessor]

Originally posted by bluntman

Just remember, eventhough the insurance company will do everything in their power to put you back on the road, they aren\'t above trying to save a few bucks in the meantime.

Very good advice ;)

[FLIPDADY]

Unfortunately a lot of body shops use salvaged parts or body panels made in Taiwan instead of OEM parts. Who gets shafted? The consumer b/c I\'ve seen shops order the cheap stuff and claim they used OEM panels.

[SourcE]

so I should insist on new OEM parts?

[bluntman]

I don\'t think you have a say, but I could be wrong.

[Broli]

oh man, that was some serious damage,
wow

glad ur ok!

i hope that it turns out well!

i am sure that it will!

[MaxRPM]

Glad to see you survived it without a scratch.

As for the tow truck bodyshops I have a horror story to tell but not time to write it right now. At minimum go with a dealer connected bodyshop. I\'ve been told Birchmount Collision is tops!

[Mica3SGT]

Originally posted by SourcE


so I should insist on new OEM parts?

Absolutely - you have that right. I would never use anything but OEM parts. My guy is currently fixing an S4 - everything needed (over $7K) was sourced from the manufacturer. Spare no expense if you want it done right.....

[FLIPDADY]

Originally posted by SourcE


so I should insist on new OEM parts?
I would I think you have the right to.

[MAZDA Kitten]

Originally posted by bluntman


I don\'t think you have a say, but I could be wrong.

I\'m pretty sure it all depends on the body shop. I know for a fact that all my parts were new OEM Mazda parts (i was there when the boxes arrived - all MAZDA JAPAN boxes and labels).

Plus; if you dont like the body shop you can always go to another body shop.

[SourcE]

thanks for the advice, I also want to make sure they check that the chassis ain\'t warped as I was hit on an angle.

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not sure if this indicates anything, but you can see the rear quarter has pushed up into the rear door frame.

also both front quarters seem a little loose around the top where the windshield is.

[FLIPDADY]

Damn she must have been going faster than 30 or 40.

Little man wasn\'t in the car was he?

[SourcE]

30 or 40kph.

she was driving a \'92 Buick Regal, was her sons car, she had all of her documents \"stolen\" 10 days ago.


Originally posted by bluntman
Hopefully the Axela badge can be reused.

The \"A\" snapped off from the \"xela\" part, but I\'m sure sure I can glue it back.


Originally posted by FLIPSPEED
Little man wasn\'t in the car was he?

luckily just me and a buddy on our way back from golf.

my priceless autographed Tiger Woods driver got snapped though.....;)

[Whos ur dadd]

Maybe you should take your set of irons out to the shed for some \"re-adjustments\" as well... Since they don\'t make those models anymore, maybe your insurance company will have to buy you a current model... :p

[Whos ur dadd]

And for alls of yous who thinks I\'m condoning insurance fraud, it\'s a joke...

[Cardinal Fang]

Originally posted by Whos ur dadd


And for alls of yous who thinks I\'m condoning insurance fraud, it\'s a joke...

So are some Insurance Companies.

[TheProfessor]

Originally posted by Whos ur dadd


And for alls of yous who thinks I\'m condoning insurance fraud, it\'s a joke...

Quickly hangs up phone :p

[Jeff-TheBiz]

First off the bright side...

I coulda been a hellava lot worse..

The bad news, yes if it doesnt turn out to be a write off (very unlikely that it will) your resale value just drop a couple of grand if the repair is perfect.

Glad to hear that no one was hurt.

[SourcE]

Originally posted by TheBiz
resale value just drop a couple of grand if the repair is perfect.


just a couple of grand....!

I guess that\'s ok, if you can just drop a couple of grand off the list price of my new Mazda5. :p

I\'m 80% sure it ain\'t a write off.

FARK
FRAK
F%&K

Anyone heard of East York Auto Electric @ Donlands and Cosburn. That\'s my nearest preferred shop for Meloche Monex. If I use a \"preferred\" shop, the work is waranteed for all long as I own the car and have Meloche as my insurer.

However, if I take it to MoT, it\'s covered by them for how long? Anyone know?

[bluntman]

\"Preferred\" just means that the shop will give the insurance company a good deal (discount) on the repair. It doesn\'t necessarily guarantee the quality of the repair. If you take it to a repair shop that isn\'t on their list, the insurance company will first ask for a quote from the repair shop. If the quote is too high, they may reject it and tell you to look for another shop and get another quote...extending the time you are without your car.

[KenYork]

I\'m wondering... If you have had a recent written quote for a Mazda5(with trade-in involved). Could you claim/sue for the differnce?

[MZR3]

Originally posted by SABIO


The bumper is fine... just the cover is F**ked. I guess the problem would be the brake lights not working :( But if they work... why not drive it somewhere else.



Wow, this hit involves structural damage since the rear hatch is designed to reinforce the unibody, and it pushed the hatch frame into the rest of body a frame realignment is definitely required otherwise you will have thrust line issue down the road, not to mention tire wear and control issues. Make sure the body shop you choose have up-to-date frame alignment tools like laser guided frame pulley (I think this is what the tool is called)...etc.

My best advice is to get rid of the car after it\'s repaired and get a new 3. You\'ll lose out on depreciation but will avoid tons of headache further down the road, trust me! because I been in similar case but had held on to the car, which I regretted!

[Whos ur dadd]

Originally posted by SourcE



Originally posted by TheBiz
resale value just drop a couple of grand if the repair is perfect.


just a couple of grand....!

I guess that\'s ok, if you can just drop a couple of grand off the list price of my new Mazda5. :p

I\'m 80% sure it ain\'t a write off.

FARK
FRAK
F%&K

Anyone heard of East York Auto Electric @ Donlands and Cosburn. That\'s my nearest preferred shop for Meloche Monex. If I use a \"preferred\" shop, the work is waranteed for all long as I own the car and have Meloche as my insurer.

However, if I take it to MoT, it\'s covered by them for how long? Anyone know?



Bring it out to a meet soon. I\'ll bring my dad\'s Oldsmobile Delta 88 for some \"adjustments\" to your car. Should then be able to get that sucka written off no problem.

Whatever you do, DO NOT slip a fiver to the insurance adjuster asking for your car to be written off. Getting rid of that fraud charge took forever to work its way through the system...

[SourcE]

Wow, this hit involves structural damage since the rear hatch is designed to reinforce the unibody, and it pushed the hatch frame into the rest of body a frame realignment is definitely required

I\'m a dumb-ass, can you explain in laymans terms?


Make sure the body shop you choose have up-to-date frame alignment tools like laser guided frame pulley (I think this is what the tool is called)...etc.

Will the shop likely check this anyways, or is it something I should insist they do? Santo at Prochilo already gave the car a quick look and never mentioned anything about frame re-allignment

Thanks,

[FLIPDADY]

James give Dave at Keele Street Collision a call at 416-398-0400.

[SourcE]

Thanks Joe, talked to Michelle, Dave was busy, she was very helpful...

[FLIPDADY]

Originally posted by SourcE


Thanks Joe, talked to Michelle, Dave was busy, she was very helpful...
Anytime James!

[majic]

shit man.. forget my earlier PM about the cleaner :p .. i didn\'t see this till now.. good to hear you\'re ok.. and that for sure looks like some ugly damage

*keeping the fingers crossed* (for a write off)

[SourcE]

I\'m gonna keep the car at Prochilo Bros. They seem to be good enough, and I can\'t be arsed to deal with the whole moving/paying for tow/holding fee shite.

Pretty sure it ain\'t written off, TD will write off if the damage is >=70% of the value of the car, which the $7500 quote from Santo at Prochilo won\'t cover.

Darn.

[FLIPDADY]

Originally posted by SourcE


I\'m gonna keep the car at Prochilo Bros. They seem to be good enough, and I can\'t be arsed to deal with the whole moving/paying for tow/holding fee shite.

Pretty sure it ain\'t written off, TD will write off if the damage is >=70% of the value of the car, which the $7500 quote from Santo at Prochilo won\'t cover.

Darn.
Hope everything works out for you James.

If you need anything give me a holla.

Give Dave a call 416-678-0777 I spoke to him personally he wants to help you.

[SourcE]

OK, my car is now going to Keele Street Collision.

Thanks Joe and Dave.

[FLIPDADY]

Originally posted by SourcE


OK, my car is now going to Keele Street Collision.

Thanks Joe and Dave.
No problem mang!

Don\'t be intimidated by Dave he may look like a big biker guy but he\'s all about customer service.

[SourcE]

grrrr.

So after almost a week at Keele Street Collision and I have heard nothing, so I ring \'em and they are still awaiting the Insurance guys visit.

I ring the insurance company and they say the appraiser went to MoT to see the car, no-one there knew of my car and that it was at Keele Auto, and as such nothing has been done.

God Damn it.

Nice of my insurance company to tell me this.....! :sarc

[Broli]

Originally posted by SourcE


grrrr.

So after almost a week at Keele Street Collision and I have heard nothing, so I ring \'em and they are still awaiting the Insurance guys visit.

I ring the insurance company and they say the appraiser went to MoT to see the car, no-one there knew of my car and that it was at Keele Auto, and as such nothing has been done.

God Damn it.

Nice of my insurance company to tell me this.....! :sarc

ouch!

well i suspect things will be in motion soon!!

[FLIPDADY]

Should be hearing from Keele Street very son James. Unless of course your insurance company opts for used parts.:sarc

[SourcE]

Originally posted by FLIPSPEED
Unless of course your insurance company opts for used parts.:sarc

Don\'t even joke about it.....I swear I\'ll go postal if they do.

[SourcE]

Just talked to KAC, they are finally starting work on my car.....woo-hoo

All I can say is that Meloche Monex are seriously lacking in the speedy turn-around department.

It took them 10 days to actually send out an adjuster, when they did, he went to the wrong garage...!:sarc

Finally they sorted out their shite, and sent the guy to KAC, but failed to ring ahead, so the car wasn\'t prepped for inspection...! :sarc

I can only assume they managed to get the guy there again, because I just rang KAC and was informed by Dominic (and NOT my insurance company) that they are working on my car now. He had just finished ordering the Mazda OEM parts needed (rear bumper, tailgate, right qtr. panel) everything else can be repaired.

Oh, and he also told me that my insurance probably won\'t cover the front end damage, because Meloche deems that I was too close to the car in front of me. The fact that someone hit me a 40kph doesn\'t appear to have enough force to move me into the guy in front...! :sarc


Just to clarify, KAC appear to be doing a great job (and are on the ball), Meloche Monex are tardy and I ain\'t too impressed.

Did I mention that Meloche are trying to get a $1,000 deductible out of me? Seems it WAS my fault the stoned old women hit me...! :sarc :(

Can I claim a new license plate as mine is damaged?
Can I claim my Axela badge?
Can I claim my \"CF\" Mazdaspeed plate cover?

Oh, and my car won\'t be ready till the end of the month.

39 days people.....!

Fark....

[TheProfessor]

Sucks to hear, and quite frankly it worries me a bit since I too am with MM for auto insurance.

[FLIPDADY]

Where you gonna get another Axela badge?:D

Yeah all the parts will be in tomorrow James. You\'ll have your car back in no time.;)

[MAZDA Kitten]

Wow... MM sounds shitty! I always hear people recommending them because they are relatively \'cheap\' but i guess at the end of the day you pay what you get for.
When i had my hit & run I am proud to say that StateFarm acted VERY quicky and had everything ready to go within 24 hours of the accident. (I got hit Sunday night, car was towed FREE from Mississauga to Hamilton THANKS MAZDA ROADSIDE! and the car was in the shop at 10 am getting checked out).

Trust me; this is gonna be a long process and a hard road ahead of you. I had to drive a beige Sentra for a month and everyday you\'re gonna miss your car more and more :( Visit the shop frequetly and ask a lot of questions. If you are not happy make sure you let them know \"or else you\'ll let insurance co. know\" LOL (thats the last thing they want to hear trust me).

[SourcE]

Originally posted by MAZDA Kitten
I had to drive a beige Sentra for a month

Ha...! I got a base level grey Taurus, no keyless entry, no central locking...... :(

But the A/C is very good, compared to the Mazda....

[MAZDA Kitten]

oooh that sucks! Yeah the heat was nice in the Sentra but the seats were SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO uncomfortable. Why do people buy those things?

[SourcE]

One plus with the Taurus, there\'s so much damn room in it.

Sure I have a turning circle of a small ocean liner....!:p

[SourcE]

w00t, my cars ready.....:D :D :D

time to get rid of the rental....now watch which me get rear ended on the way home :sarc

[doug E fresh]

Originally posted by SourcE


w00t, my cars ready.....:D :D :D

time to get rid of the rental....now watch which me get rear ended on the way home :sarc

Take some new pics please! I wanna see yer ride lookin\' purdy again!!!:D

[SourcE]

Cars back, didn\'t realise how much I missed her....

Will post pix up laters....

[Broli]

Originally posted by SourcE


Cars back, didn\'t realise how much I missed her....

Will post pix up laters....

congrats on getting her back

looking forward to the pics!

[FLIPDADY]

The funny thing was when Domenic was ordering the badges on the hatch he was like do you have the Axelia nameplate? At first I said he was SOL but then I thought to try and re-order them again.

So everyone can thank you for bringing back the AXELA badge for a limited time.:p

[Cardinal Fang]

Originally posted by SourcE


Cars back, didn\'t realise how much I missed her....

Will post pix up laters....

Congrats and welcome back into the fold.

[SourcE]

Originally posted by FLIPSPEED
The funny thing was when Domenic was ordering the badges on the hatch he was like do you have the Axelia nameplate?

So everyone can thank you for bringing back the AXELA badge for a limited time.:p

w00t...!

Thank Domenic too.

[SourcE]

Before:
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y252/SourcE2/thPICT0001_resize.jpg

After:
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y252/SourcE2/PICT0001-1.jpg

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y252/SourcE2/PICT0005-1.jpg

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y252/SourcE2/PICT0006.jpg

:D

[Whos ur dadd]

Welcome home.

Meloche Monnex was awesome when our SUV was rear-ended two years ago. I can\'t recall specifics, but I think we were up and running within 10 days. We had serious damage, but not as much as you. Of course, you can\'t discount the fact that once they see \"WUD, The\" on the policy, they get their arses in gear or there\'s gonna be hella to paya.

[TheProfessor]

Glad to see you got your ride back SourcE. I noticed you\'re selling off some parts, are you gonna be getting rid of it now?

[doug E fresh]

Wow, the shop looks like it did a great job! The lines look nice and straight. Colour matches. Signs of a good fix! Even your Axela badge was saved! (or did you buy a new one?)

:D

[Chuckie]

axela badge was new from joe\'s 45.

[Broli]

nice to see her back together


better than what happened to this guy


http://www.angelsoft.co.uk/newprevs/humpty/images/humpty_full.gif

[SourcE]

Originally posted by TheProfessor
Glad to see you got your ride back SourcE. I noticed you\'re selling off some parts, are you gonna be getting rid of it now?

Yup, she\'s a gonna.....

Were probably gonna get an \"ahem\"......Subaru Legacy Wagon (GT dependant on the price ;))

There doesn\'t really seem to be a Mazda that can match the size, the 5 Sport Wagon comes close, but the outstanding safety record and reliabilty of the boxer engine are both playing a large part.

If anyone is interested in buying her, she\'s on Autotrader (listing pending) and HERE (www.gymolympics.com)

Hopefully you will all let me still visit TM3, if for nothin else than to flame Broli...:p

[TheProfessor]

The Legacy GT is an awesome car....I\'d love to drive one.

[Broli]

Originally posted by SourcE

Hopefully you will all let me still visit TM3, if for nothin else than to flame Broli...:p


:O

i am shocked . . .
that hurts man . . .

lol

yeah man, stay for the flamin, but beware, flaming is a 2 way street

[majic]

Originally posted by Broli



Originally posted by SourcE

Hopefully you will all let me still visit TM3, if for nothin else than to flame Broli...:p


:O

i am shocked . . .
that hurts man . . .

lol

yeah man, stay for the flamin, but beware, flaming is a 2 way street

i think SourcE has a fire retardant suit.. while broli has a retarded suit on ;) :D

[Broli]

Originally posted by majic



Originally posted by Broli



Originally posted by SourcE

Hopefully you will all let me still visit TM3, if for nothin else than to flame Broli...:p


:O

i am shocked . . .
that hurts man . . .

lol

yeah man, stay for the flamin, but beware, flaming is a 2 way street

i think SourcE has a fire retardant suit.. while broli has a retarded suit on ;) :D

soon,

the the SourcE of all my jokes will be made apparant . . .
lol

and if i got a retarded suit on, its cause i raided ur closet,