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Jeff-TheBiz
09-15-2006, 12:53 PM
Not sure how much it takes to purchase the 'unhackable' software that BCMazda3Forums and Mazda3Forums.com is using..
But lets get started and get this done..
Also anyone know if the 100,000+ posts on tm3 are gone for ever or what?
majic
09-15-2006, 12:57 PM
Not sure how much it takes to purchase the 'unhackable' software that BCMazda3Forums and Mazda3Forums.com is using..
But lets get started and get this done..
Also anyone know if the 100,000+ posts on tm3 are gone for ever or what?
why not, once we get the affiliates onboard, charge an annual fee that would cover the costs of hosting and maintenance? just a thought
methodyst
09-15-2006, 12:59 PM
I was going to suggest if the interest is there for the final meet of the season to have a BBQ where we charge per car basically to cover food costs and extra money goes towards getting something up and running.
It cannot be done unless attendance is high, but at the same time we need to have a plan before that money goes anywhere.
Jeff-TheBiz
09-15-2006, 01:00 PM
I dont even think we need affiliates./..
ANyone know how much it takes get started? even a guess?
majic
09-15-2006, 01:02 PM
I dont even think we need affiliates./..
ANyone know how much it takes get started? even a guess?
if we continue using *THIS* software .. at least $6USD/mth!
Jeff-TheBiz
09-15-2006, 01:07 PM
Done..
$6USD = ~$7.00 per month. X 12 months = $84.00
Anyone have change for a $100?
What else is involved to get our own .ca address.
I have to go peel www.torontomazda3.com off of my car
Cardinal Fang
09-15-2006, 01:21 PM
if we continue using *THIS* software .. at least $6USD/mth!
Just to clarify the current software provided by xorbit30 is free as you see it. There are add on packages that allow for more features. Not being being a gheek when it comes to this stuff I can't speak for the security of this software or even the hosting site. I just remember this site from a while back so on a whim I went for it. This is where the extra cost. Have a look:
http://www.xsorbit.com/plan.html
majic and meth may have a better idea if this software package is any good.
majic
09-15-2006, 01:26 PM
sorry.. i should have clarified..
with the $6/mth (easily recouped by affiliate fees) we get things like karma (rep points), polls, attachments and other features INCLUDING A USER DB BACKUP that aren't available for free..
Cardinal Fang
09-15-2006, 01:28 PM
A USER DB BACKUP! No farking way!
What the hell is that?
majic
09-15-2006, 01:30 PM
A USER DB BACKUP! No farking way!
What the hell is that?
umm look at the link YOU provided and search for backup :)
like duh!
*whooppssssshhhh*
methodyst
09-15-2006, 02:03 PM
The only thing I question is the 50,000 page views per month
Kevin@nextmod
09-15-2006, 02:06 PM
Well I do'nt mind making any donations as long as the board keeps running with no problems.
majic
09-15-2006, 02:12 PM
The only thing I question is the 50,000 page views per month
true..
top 10 topics ~ 1800 views (that's only top 10!!) say double that for ALL and we're at 3500/day or 2.. 100K views would be safe.. interestingly, the free versions says N/A.. hmm ultd?
Who knows about this board? 329
TorontoMazda3.com 283
Please no wh0Ring 196
Welcome to the Lounge! 180
FUTURE OF TM3 169
Clean it up boys we have women here 144
New Board Features 136
i cant believe you guys didn't tell me! 123
Broli BROLI BROLI BROLI 100
More info on the Montreal College Shooting 89
Skarbro
09-15-2006, 02:14 PM
Also anyone know if the 100,000+ posts on tm3 are gone for ever or what?
+1
Anyone know? There were some unfinished GB's that need to be updated.
Cardinal Fang
09-15-2006, 02:26 PM
I can donate.
Jeff-TheBiz
09-15-2006, 02:37 PM
The only thing I question is the 50,000 page views per month
true..
top 10 topics ~ 1800 views (that's only top 10!!) say double that for ALL and we're at 3500/day or 2.. 100K views would be safe.. interestingly, the free versions says N/A.. hmm ultd?
Who knows about this board? 329
TorontoMazda3.com 283
Please no wh0Ring 196
Welcome to the Lounge! 180
FUTURE OF TM3 169
Clean it up boys we have women here 144
New Board Features 136
i cant believe you guys didn't tell me! 123
Broli BROLI BROLI BROLI 100
More info on the Montreal College Shooting 89
yes but this is 0 lurkers..
at anytime on torontomazda3 there were always as many lurkers as members.
And currently we are at <100 members.
majic
09-15-2006, 02:42 PM
The only thing I question is the 50,000 page views per month
true..
top 10 topics ~ 1800 views (that's only top 10!!) say double that for ALL and we're at 3500/day or 2.. 100K views would be safe.. interestingly, the free versions says N/A.. hmm ultd?
Who knows about this board? 329
TorontoMazda3.com 283
Please no wh0Ring 196
Welcome to the Lounge! 180
FUTURE OF TM3 169
Clean it up boys we have women here 144
New Board Features 136
i cant believe you guys didn't tell me! 123
Broli BROLI BROLI BROLI 100
More info on the Montreal College Shooting 89
yes but this is 0 lurkers..
at anytime on torontomazda3 there were always as many lurkers as members.
And currently we are at <100 members.
we could explore OTHER software that would not have this limitation.. we WOULD be limited by traffic/bandwidth on a 3rd party server.. so we'd have to investigate a few options WHILE IT's STILL FRESH.. otherwise ppl will become compalcent and start liking it here (NOT THAT IT'S A BAD THING) and they won't be forced to think about pros and cons of other software..
what is our growth potential?
what is the anticipated traffic? posts? views? attachments if any?
backup solutions?
etc etc
Jeff-TheBiz
09-15-2006, 02:48 PM
Okay likes and dislikes..
I like the karma option on this software, polls, spell check and an event calendar.. not to mention newsletter capability.
DOn't care for the fact that our address on a bumper sticker wouldnt fit on a hummer!
All in all, I don't know what kinds off software are available as I only post on 3 forums total. but I have always liked this format.
I am just impatient and would love to get this shit rolling in the right direction, immediately.
MAZDA Kitten
09-15-2006, 02:48 PM
I dont have any problems donating
Whats this about the 50,000 views a month?
Cardinal Fang
09-15-2006, 03:08 PM
There's also vbulletin. The bad boy of discussion board software.
http://www.vbulletin.com/
$160.00 U.S. vBulletin (Owned License)
The owned vBulletin Forum license allows you to run the software on your site indefinitely. Along with this license, you will receive one year of free updates. Beyond the first year, you will have to pay a nominal fee, currently $30, to obtain updates for an additional year.
This license includes free support via email and on the community forum. Phone Support is not included in the license price but may be purchased for an additional cost either at the time of initial purchase, or afterwards through the Members' Area.
$85.00 U.S. vBulletin (Leased License)
The leased vBulletin Forum license allows you to use the software on your site for 1 year and gives you access to products updates for that year. After 1 year, you must renew your license or remove the software from your site.
This license includes free support via email andon the community forum. Phone Support is not included in the license price but may be purchased for an additional cost either at the time of initial purchase, or afterwards through the members' area.
And then we need the webspace.
MAZDA Kitten
09-15-2006, 03:22 PM
Lets have a bikini car wash and raise some money to buy or liscence a GOOD QUALITY PRODUCT
Start looking for your bikinis boys!
methodyst
09-15-2006, 03:28 PM
www.webhost4life.com offers cheap packages and everyone of them have unlimited bandwidth. I have the cheap hosting and I have 1000MEG storage.
majic
09-15-2006, 03:36 PM
www.webhost4life.com offers cheap packages and everyone of them have unlimited bandwidth. I have the cheap hosting and I have 1000MEG storage.
cuz they use winblowz servers :D
S.F.W.
09-15-2006, 03:55 PM
hey everyone. So I have registered torontomazda3.ca for club use. I also have set up a hosting package with four9.ca . I have Justin helping with the forum creation, I asked him to contact methodyst, and SourceE for creation assitance. The Biz has volunteered to help with organization. If people agree, and feel that vBulletin would be the best software, and people know how to create our forum needs with this software, I will purchase the product right now.
I have no problems putting up the required cash to get us started.
I have saved a lot of money, and time, and have met some good friends from the forum. It is now time for me to give back while I can.
I would want to recoup the money, but that can be over many years. I intend to be compoletely not for profit, and can commit to a regular accouting for funds every two weeks.
Hope this helps. If anyone wants to help, please PM, e-mail, IM, or call me.
Thanks
MAZDA Kitten
09-15-2006, 04:09 PM
What type of message board does clubrsx.com use? thats a nice msg board
What type of message board does clubrsx.com use? thats a nice msg board
The glamourous and expensive vBulletin (Version 3.5.1)
Cardinal Fang
09-15-2006, 04:22 PM
It's only expensive if you've been used to using free software.
:D
Cardinal Fang
09-15-2006, 04:25 PM
hey everyone. So I have registered torontomazda3.ca for club use. I also have set up a hosting package with four9.ca . I have Justin helping with the forum creation, I asked him to contact methodyst, and SourceE for creation assitance. The Biz has volunteered to help with organization. If people agree, and feel that vBulletin would be the best software, and people know how to create our forum needs with this software, I will purchase the product right now.
S.F.W. what format are you using for the new board?
majic
09-15-2006, 04:27 PM
What type of message board does clubrsx.com use? thats a nice msg board
The glamourous and expensive vBulletin (Version 3.5.1)
so does msprotege.com and rfd not to mention hofo!
SIM SIMMA
09-15-2006, 04:37 PM
I must agree it is good software.... me likes!
S.F.W.
09-15-2006, 04:45 PM
new board is being set up with phpbb. Seems though that vbulletin is the way to go.
So that becons the question, who has experience creating content with vbulletin?
majic
09-15-2006, 04:47 PM
new board is being set up with phpbb. Seems though that vbulletin is the way to go.
So that becons the question, who has experience creating content with vbulletin?
do you mean administering it?
can't be any harder than this board.. or you mean isntalling that should be easy.. i can help :)
never done it but a forum is a forum is a forum.. and this one is pretty good too.. phpbb just looks blah!
Cardinal Fang
09-15-2006, 04:51 PM
new board is being set up with phpbb.
The old board software?
Seems though that vbulletin is the way to go.
So that becons the question, who has experience creating content with vbulletin?
It's not hard. It's much easier than the free software we have here in my opinion and I'm not technically inclined about this. Majic did alot of stuff on here on his own and he managed to find some things that scared the crap out of me.
And I don't mean to beat a dead horse but having a web address so close to the old one will cause confusion. Couple this trying to figure out how to salvage the olf content, if TM3 will let you have it and you have a recipe for some legal action if TM3 wants to be antagonistic. If we're starting fresh we should start fresh.
rsquared
09-15-2006, 05:04 PM
From experience on other boards, I like vbulletin best. I'd be happy to make a donation, just let me know how and to whom.
S.F.W.
09-15-2006, 05:08 PM
Majic, ok I'm on board with vbulletin, I'll order tomorrow. Are you willing to lend your assitance to the install/administration team to help set up?
Fang, as for the new board, I'm flexible on the domain, let's see what most people like best. I like torontomazda3.ca, but I also like TM3club.com. In terms of of legal action, already ran that by some contacts I have in the legal copyright issue, who have dealt with similar cases. We are in the clear. Although my plan was to mainly take the sticky's and how to's...
new board is being set up with phpbb.
The old board software?
TorontoMazda3.com/forum was run on OpenBB software
Jeff-TheBiz
09-15-2006, 06:12 PM
NICE!!!
Okay, lets get started!!
majic
09-15-2006, 06:35 PM
Majic, ok I'm on board with vbulletin, I'll order tomorrow. Are you willing to lend your assitance to the install/administration team to help set up?
sure man.. as i said.. i don't have experience with vB but the last 2 days on xsorbit i logged 12 hrs .. lol.. and aside from posting it included some setup and config.. if the USER interface of vB should say a little about the ADMIN interface then we're laughin..
MajesticBlueNTO
09-15-2006, 09:25 PM
Majic, ok I'm on board with vbulletin, I'll order tomorrow. Are you willing to lend your assitance to the install/administration team to help set up?
Fang, as for the new board, I'm flexible on the domain, let's see what most people like best. I like torontomazda3.ca, but I also like TM3club.com. In terms of of legal action, already ran that by some contacts I have in the legal copyright issue, who have dealt with similar cases. We are in the clear. Although my plan was to mainly take the sticky's and how to's...
the how-tos should be the property of the poster. I know i've posted mine on tm3 and www.mazda3.ca
Ex-Rolla
09-15-2006, 09:58 PM
Looking forward to it you guys! If there's anything you guys need related to the forum let me know and if i can help i WILL. Although not a frequent poster on TM3, i've been around for almost 2 years and would like to see the "new" site up and running.
whos ur daddy
09-15-2006, 11:55 PM
I'm willing to donate a few bucks. Slagging broli is like daily stress relief...
Majic, ok I'm on board with vbulletin, I'll order tomorrow.* Are you willing to lend your assitance to the install/administration team to help set up?
Fang, as for the new board, I'm flexible on the domain, let's see what most people like best.* I like torontomazda3.ca, but I also like TM3club.com.* In terms of of legal action, already ran that by some contacts I have in the legal copyright issue, who have dealt with similar cases.* We are in the clear.* Although my plan was to mainly take the sticky's and how to's...
the how-tos should be the property of the poster.* I know i've posted mine on tm3 and www.mazda3.ca
This is one guy who's given so much to TM3 and yet got ZERO credit back from any one.
TheProfessor
09-16-2006, 01:40 AM
I could make a donation also......good to see you guys making some progress.
methodyst
09-16-2006, 01:46 AM
I believe I read my name somewhere, I will do my best to help out, just get Justin to contact me.
Cardinal Fang
09-16-2006, 12:24 PM
This is one guy who's given so much to TM3 and yet got ZERO credit back from any one.
*Applauds*
DrunknFoo
09-17-2006, 08:10 AM
So what's the account in question that I should donate to?
Regards to xxx views/month, a suggestion would be to only allow registered members to view the content of the forum. By restricting guest/anonymous users that are not 'registered' it would somewhat drastically bring down the postview count/bandwidth and could potentially cut down on the lurkers.* Active participation or perhaps a minimal amount of posts/every quarter could also keep the community strong and balanced....
The purpose of this would not to deter potential interested members, but to keep some security checks in place, keep the community for 'true' enthusiasts and ultimately lower the posts views/month
If put into place...Disclaimer could read as follows...
"[Welcome to TM3 (or whatnot?), (A growing community for mazda3 enthusiasts in toronto?)
You are currently viewing our boards as a guests which currently* gives you limited access to view forum topics and descriptions of the content. Becoming a member will allow you to instantly access these forum categories. TM3 encourages Members to contribute thoughts and opinions.]"
vbulletin is good, you could also consider Invision Power Services as another option.
SABIO
09-17-2006, 10:35 AM
mazda3.ca Lol. Theres a case of somebody grabbing a domain name and putting up a shit site hoping they can sell the domain for a profit.
good name...useless site.
Broli
09-17-2006, 10:12 PM
I'm willing to donate a few bucks.* Slagging broli is like daily stress relief...
haha
whats my price biatch!
lol
are we moving on a new board before setting up a committee?
is there no interest in committee?
i am good with what ever the majority says
but . .
but lets get a full plan regardless of what we do
who do we donate to?
what are we gonna use?
blah blah
maybe talk to a few of the experience guys or other club execs to see what we might not be considering?
S.F.W.
09-17-2006, 10:44 PM
I like the committe, it just needs to be done, sooner rather than later. So fi we can get a committee together and meet in say the next 10-14 days,great! If not, let's get on with the show...
Broli
09-17-2006, 10:47 PM
yes
well the committee thread was passed on the old board
sooner the better thats for sure
whos ur daddy
09-17-2006, 11:00 PM
Majic, ok I'm on board with vbulletin, I'll order tomorrow.* Are you willing to lend your assitance to the install/administration team to help set up?
Fang, as for the new board, I'm flexible on the domain, let's see what most people like best.* I like torontomazda3.ca, but I also like TM3club.com.* In terms of of legal action, already ran that by some contacts I have in the legal copyright issue, who have dealt with similar cases.* We are in the clear.* Although my plan was to mainly take the sticky's and how to's...
the how-tos should be the property of the poster.* I know i've posted mine on tm3 and www.mazda3.ca
This is one guy who's given so much to TM3 and yet got ZERO credit back from any one.
Not true. I've always loved his detailed HOW TO's and always praised them on the old board.
MBN rocks.
majic
09-17-2006, 11:45 PM
So what's the account in question that I should donate to?
Regards to xxx views/month, a suggestion would be to only allow registered members to view the content of the forum. By restricting guest/anonymous users that are not 'registered' it would somewhat drastically bring down the postview count/bandwidth and could potentially cut down on the lurkers. Active participation or perhaps a minimal amount of posts/every quarter could also keep the community strong and balanced....
very goood idea and easy to implement .. not necessary now since it's free but we could have an index.html page specifying what's inside the forum and all.. this way we could limit the views of the entire forum to registered members.. i personally hate registering to sites i just want quick info from (like hofo) but i guess the quick registration is a small fee you pay to get discounts and help for your car's problems
Broli
09-17-2006, 11:50 PM
i don't think restriced access to the site is a good idea,
it will drop the number of new members
i think that if thier is no activity in an account for say 6 months of smtg
just delete it
u could follow that stuff right
DrunknFoo
09-18-2006, 07:25 AM
i don't think restriced access to the site is a good idea,
it will drop the number of new members
i think that if thier is no activity in an account for say 6 months of smtg
just delete it
u could follow that stuff right
It really depends on how you think about it really....
Have a home page of what 'the club' and what the 'forum' is really about, display an announcement bar with RSS feeds for upcomming events/meets along with active forum topics. Affiliate/Sponser banners, etc... photos etc...
Now if the home page grasped the viewers attention and the individuals happen to click on the 'Enter the TM3 forum link' then comes the forum page.
What the guest would first see at the top of the forum is the 'welcome guest disclaimer that I wrote up earlier or whatever the admin decides' (which of course, logged on users wont see) along with rest of the forum underneath. The viewer in question would have access to general threads, (perhaps, Rules/Regulations of the forum, FAQ, General Mazda3 discussion, maintenance schedule etc.) but would be restricted to viewing 'privilleged threads' i.e TM3 discount announcements, groupbuys and whatnot (it could save Joe from alot of 'posers' claiming to be someone who they are not). =P
vbulletin and other packages easily allow a permission restraint based on users/groups. Only reason why I recommended this was because it's quite easy to set up, it will drop the potential number of views/topic and resolve some of the small issues that existed on the last board, the amount of lurkers then, and perhaps even now (I also see about 4 guests logged in now) =P
Cardinal Fang
09-18-2006, 12:11 PM
Too many threads discussing the same thing. Please continue discussing the future of the new TM3 website here:
http://xsorbit30.com/users5/torontomazda3den/index.php?topic=101.0
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