Some new ICE [Archive] - TorontoMazda3

swales

02-20-2007, 10:31 PM

Since my audio has already been upgraded, it was time for some video :-)

http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u107/becks07_photo/IMG_0274.jpg

http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u107/becks07_photo/IMG_0277.jpg

Garmin Gps

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y94/swales/IMG_0284.jpg

Speed trap warning

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y94/swales/IMG_0286.jpg

Sat Radio

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y94/swales/IMG_0281.jpg

DVD

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y94/swales/IMG_0280.jpg

Small Crappy Video....lol

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y94/swales/th_MVI_0278.jpg (http://s3.photobucket.com/albums/y94/swales/?action=view&current=MVI_0278.flv)

saintjames7

02-20-2007, 11:12 PM

Looks great.

MazdaTree

02-20-2007, 11:19 PM

Looks sweet Swales...

FLIPDADY

02-20-2007, 11:41 PM

Damn Jamie the mods never end bro!

Very noice!

queens49

02-21-2007, 12:24 AM

Nice.

Are you using the blind Garmin GPS unit, that was in the other thread about the screen?

-RJ3-

02-21-2007, 01:10 AM

Speed trap eh???? Nice... Beats Rader detectors by far..

MAZDA Kitten

02-21-2007, 01:26 AM

oooh
i want it
how did you get that?? DETAILS PLEASE

faibs

02-21-2007, 02:20 AM

oooh
i want it
how did you get that?? DETAILS PLEASE

I soooooooooooo second that

swales

02-21-2007, 07:44 AM

Nice.

Are you using the blind Garmin GPS unit, that was in the other thread about the screen?

Yep, it's the GVN52.

Speed trap eh???? Nice... Beats Rader detectors by far..

Yep, alerts me of speed traps and red light camera's, it gives the warning on the screen and beeps :-)

oooh
i want it
how did you get that?? DETAILS PLEASE

What info do you want?

Wild Weasel

02-21-2007, 07:47 AM

Awesome!! I'll definitely be hitting you up for info on how you like this thing in a couple months.

Very cool!

Skarbro

02-21-2007, 09:08 AM

How does the speed trap warning work?

TheProfessor

02-21-2007, 09:31 AM

Very nice!

Broli

02-21-2007, 10:09 AM

looks great jamie!!!!

fourtrack78

02-21-2007, 10:58 AM

looking real good Swales. Do you still have your stock unit hooked up? which meet are going to next? I'd like to check your setup. I'm looking for a similar setup.

swales

02-21-2007, 11:28 AM

looking real good Swales. Do you still have your stock unit hooked up? which meet are going to next? I'd like to check your setup. I'm looking for a similar setup.

Yep stock radio is still hooked up using a LOC and using 4 aux-in's for all the audio connections. I also have a Clarion dvd player in the glovebox.

I'll be at Bubba's BBQ in April

wtom

02-21-2007, 11:41 AM

I can understand how it'd detect the speed traps but how would it detect red-light cameras?

swales

02-21-2007, 11:50 AM

I can understand how it'd detect the speed traps but how would it detect red-light cameras?

Locations of all red light camera's are public knowledge, so what is done is the locations are recorded and loaded into the GPS unit so when you approach an intersection with a red light camera, it gives you a warning. You can adjust the distance for when you get a first warning, for example 600 meters, and the closer you get the bigger the warning box is and quicker the beep tone goes.

wtom

02-21-2007, 11:53 AM

Nevermind, I thought there was a detector on your car. BUT ... that would be illegal now wouldn't it. ;)

Hazy

02-21-2007, 12:13 PM

Sweet ICE.

Pimpin_29y

02-21-2007, 12:49 PM

Very very clean. sweet ice indeed!

fourtrack78

02-21-2007, 01:10 PM

The Garmin Gps does it have a video out? and which model do you have?

swales

02-21-2007, 01:17 PM

Yes it has video out. It's the GVN 52, which is like an oem unit. It's basically the "brain" only and you hook it up to any screen

Cardinal Fang

02-21-2007, 02:39 PM

Ok....that so kicks ass.

Wild Weasel

02-21-2007, 03:32 PM

I'm real curious to know how you like using it. It's got a little remote you use to control it, right?

Don't say too much now though. I really want to know what you think after using it for a couple months. :)

swales

02-21-2007, 03:37 PM

It's really easy to use, the remote isn't one of those cheap credit card types (but is still small), the buttons are easy to use without even looking at it and it's got a small joystick on it which makes it really easy to navigate menu's etc.

Jeff-TheBiz

02-21-2007, 03:39 PM

Very interested in this... Looks uber sweet.

Is the nav touch screen or is it a remote (like Weasel said)

Wild Weasel

02-21-2007, 04:30 PM

Very interested in this... Looks uber sweet.

Is the nav touch screen or is it a remote (like Weasel said)

See his last post. It's a remote... and worth noting is the fact that these screens are not touch screens. There was some discussion about what it might take to modify them to put in a touch screen, but as they're made, they are not.

swales

02-21-2007, 05:11 PM

No these screens are not touch screen and would be kind of dangerous if they were as you would have to lean in pretty far to touch them. I wasn't sure how I would like it because I've had touch screens in the past, but I have no complaints, I can do everything easily with a remote and one positive thing is no fingerprints ;-)

MAZDA Kitten

02-21-2007, 07:32 PM

What info do you want?

Well a lot of info i guess i dont know where to start because I dont know know exactly what you have all there

To my understanding this is JUSt an OEM flip screen, aftermarket GPS which is hooked up just to the screen, aftermarket DVD player hooked up to the screen and I am curious about the red light/speedtrap thing (is that part of the GPS?)

Where can you purchase the OEM flip screen?
Did you install it all yourself?
etc.

02-21-2007, 08:30 PM

Looks really nice. Good work.

swales

02-21-2007, 09:27 PM

Well a lot of info i guess i dont know where to start because I dont know know exactly what you have all there

To my understanding this is JUSt an OEM flip screen, aftermarket GPS which is hooked up just to the screen, aftermarket DVD player hooked up to the screen and I am curious about the red light/speedtrap thing (is that part of the GPS?)

Where can you purchase the OEM flip screen?
Did you install it all yourself?
etc.

The screen is an oem-like (not actual oem but exactly the same) and can be bought from Devin. The screen takes 10min to install as it's total plug & play.

The Gps is the Garmin GVN 52 and has the red light/speedtrap database loaded on it for all of Canada. Basically as you approach a speedtrap or red light camera, it gives you a warning on the screen and beeps.

The dvd player is a Clarion dvd player that's located in the glovebox and the remote "eye" is hooked up to the remote "eye" of the screen so there's no need to have a clear view of the player for it to work.

aabase

02-21-2007, 10:40 PM

cool mod. i want one too. any idea how much the total cost including installations and parts?

swales

02-21-2007, 11:13 PM

cool mod. i want one too. any idea how much the total cost including installations and parts?

The cost of the screen and gps is around $1100-$1200 depending on what deals you can find, dvd players can range from $80 -$300 depending on what you're looking for. I installed everything myself so I have no idea how much an install would be

MAZDA Kitten

02-21-2007, 11:56 PM

thats perfect
thanks

majic

02-22-2007, 10:54 AM

almost 100kph over? ;)

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y94/swales/IMG_0286.jpg

sick setup btw!

cyberscorpi0

02-22-2007, 01:38 PM

Sweeeeeet looking "I-C-E"!

swales

02-22-2007, 02:31 PM

almost 100kph over? ;)
sick setup btw!

Ooops ;)

Broli

02-22-2007, 03:03 PM

lol

yeah i noticed that, but didn't mention it . ..

lol

i know how u crazy ottawa people roll!

lol

3GFX

02-22-2007, 07:54 PM

Looks sweet, planning on any other video inputs other than gps?

swales

02-22-2007, 09:36 PM

Looks sweet, planning on any other video inputs other than gps?

If you check the first page, you'll see an xbox and dvd player are also hooked up

MAZDA Kitten

02-22-2007, 10:27 PM

would i be able to still run my phatbox with the navi? (it plugs into the back of the OEM HU right?)

swales

02-22-2007, 11:06 PM

would i be able to still run my phatbox with the navi? (it plugs into the back of the OEM HU right?)

Yes you'll still be able to run your phatbox.

queens49

02-23-2007, 12:56 AM

How did you bring all the audio in? I had asked Devin in another thread and he said you needed an aux-in. Do you have all the audio going into the same aux-in device? If so, how does that work. ie. do you have a selector switch to go between the inputs. I'm curious how this would work, if you had the GPS on, and wanted to listen to music. Would the GPS prompts/beeps be mixed in with the music? I've never been in a vehicle w/ a built in GPS system, so I don't know if you can do this.

swales

02-23-2007, 11:21 AM

MAZDA Kitten

02-23-2007, 12:17 PM

k
I'm sold

queens49

02-23-2007, 12:35 PM

Yes I'm using an Aux-in for all the audio. I have the PIE set-up hooked up to an Aux3 to make 3 Aux-in's that I switch between with a toggle switch. I also have an Auxmod basic hooked up so I'm using both the CD changer and Tape inputs a Aux-in's. When listening to music, the music pauses for the GPS voice instructions and then goes back to the music

What causes the music to stop playing when there are GPS voice instructions? Right now, I have an AudioLink USB plugged into the CD changer port. I was thinking of the Auxmod basic, so the GPS would be the input when I select the Tape/Media button. This way seems like you can only have one or the either though. IN your case, you seem to have both. Sorry for all the questions.

SpeedyG

05-30-2007, 07:08 PM

Hi Swales,

I just bought the GVN52 myself and I'm wondering where did you connect the Mute cable from the GPS. I know it should go somewhere in the HU (and you got it because the music gets muted when you hear navigation instructions) but where exactly? Also as far as I understand from your description only ONE AUX line is active at any given time so how can you listen to music (let's suppose it comes from AUX1 for argument sake) and get voice instructions from the GPS unit (which should be on a different AUX let's say AUX2) AT THE SAME TIME??? What am I missing here? That's exactly the setup I want but unless you are using a mixer for the GPS voice info and the music and somehow you manage to mute the music I don't understand how it works.

Wild Weasel

05-31-2007, 10:27 AM

BiG-ED

05-31-2007, 04:35 PM

im so interested in this setup
writing up a walkthrough of the install would probably help alot of ppl on the board

EvilEric

05-31-2007, 05:51 PM

Note that his original post says that his radio was already upgraded. He might have an aftermarket HU that supports these features.

I was wondering the same thing when looking into it.

Does the stock HU have one aux-in or two? Can the SAT feed be considered a 2nd aux-in?

Either way, I expect that with the stock HU you wouldn't be able to use the Mute connection and that you'd have to choose between music/radio or listening to the output of the GPS.

Hopefully Swales has some input here. :)

I believe the stock HU only has one AUX. Depending on the model/year and if the CD changer is 6 or whatever (you can search through all the threads). In terms of Nav voice vs music play that has to do with the actual system and nothing to do with additional aux's.

As for the SAT button, i believe depending on the AUX adapter you either press CD twice or SAT in order to switch to the input you want. I've never seen anyone re-wiring it for another purpose.

SpeedyG

05-31-2007, 07:46 PM

Yep stock radio is still hooked up using a LOC and using 4 aux-in's for all the audio connections. I also have a Clarion dvd player in the glovebox.

I'll be at Bubba's BBQ in April

Wild Weasel he says he is still using the original radio and again unless he is using a mixer to combine 2 or more audio sources I don't understand how it can possibly work as you cannot have 2 sound sources active at once (for instance you cannot have the radio and the IPOD playing at the same time - that goes for any other AUX you might have connected). The buttons on the central console allow you to switch between any of the sound sources you might have (radio, CD, IPOD on AUX etc.) but they DON'T allow you to combine them into one output. I hope Swales can throw some light on the setup as I'd really like to duplicate it.:)

JPAV8S4U

05-31-2007, 08:46 PM

Nice set-up... But im curious as to how the remote works... The one you use for the Nav... I have the Garmins KGNA-510 hardrive based nav. Which is pretty much the samething you have. Mine is controlled through a touchscreen and cant magine using it without a touchscreen. Can you take a pic of the remote? Would love to see this thing! Otherwise a clean/stock looking setup! Props!

High Five!

JP

plusvolume

06-01-2007, 11:30 AM

oh man thats awesome...

very nice mod!!!

SpeedyG

06-04-2007, 03:51 PM

I've just got mine installed at Lockdown on Saturday and Jeff tried to make it work like in the Swales' setup but there is NO WAY to directly interface the Mute signal provided by the GPS unit with the stock HU of the Mazda 3. You either have to use some custom made electronic board that does the muting for you when the GPS sends the Mute signal or not use the Mute function at all. You cannot connect that wire somewhere on the stock HU and get the music muted while the GPS provides navigation information AND THEN the music to resume playing. I'm trying a circuit that will hopefully do that but my approach will be a little bit different even though the end result will be the same.

Wild Weasel

06-04-2007, 03:53 PM

Definitely interested in how this turns out.

That's pretty much what I figured. The stock HU just doesn't have any functionality built in to allow for the mute function.

SpeedyG

06-04-2007, 05:30 PM

The problem is the HU in the Mazda 3 gets the Mute signal (from the button on the steering wheel for instance) as a pulse once you press it once. To un-mute it you have to press it again which means that there are 2 individual events that happen in order for the music to stop and then resume. Those 2 events are 2 pulses of the ground signal through a 2k7 resistor on a specific wire of the HU harness. This cannot be simulated by the Mute wire of the GPS as that one sends a continuous ground signal (or +12V selectable from the GPS's settings) during the voice prompts and the signal disappears after that.

boogie

06-04-2007, 09:43 PM

SpeedyG

06-05-2007, 12:30 PM

I've built a circuit that will take care of the Mute issue and hopefully I will try it tonight and see if it works. The idea is to still use the Mute feed from the GPS unit to control the timing of the music mute but not by trying to control the Mazda 3 HU's mute function with it, rather changing the sound source from the HU to the GPS during the time of the navi instructions and then revert it back to the HU. If the circuit works and there are no issues I'll post more info about how to do it for anybody who wants to do it.

Wild Weasel

06-05-2007, 02:05 PM

Very cool idea!! I didn't know such a thing was possible. Are you using the same signal that the mode button on the wheel sends? You'd have to know which mode it was currently in, to know how many signals to send, right?

SpeedyG

06-05-2007, 02:39 PM

No, this is totally isolated from the steering wheel button. My circuit (if it works the way it is expected) will switch the Audio output from the HU to the GPS and back (after the navi info was delivered). It is fully controlled by the Mute wire from the GPS so there is no interfacing with the Mute signal from the steering wheel. Basically this is a switch controlled by the GPS between two audio sources.

Wild Weasel

06-05-2007, 02:47 PM

Ah... so you're cutting off the HU entirely and feeding the audio from the GPS directly to the speakers? I guess you'd need an amp then, right?

SpeedyG

06-05-2007, 04:57 PM

You're right, I'm actually cutting of the HU and I'm feeding the GPS to my existing AMP (the signal from the GPS is way to low to be fed directly to the speakers anyway). My audio setup includes an MTX AMP and you definitely need one for the GPS as the Audio Out from it is the PreAmp type in terms of signal.

Wild Weasel

06-05-2007, 10:08 PM

Hmm... is there a stock amp with the Bose system that could be tapped for this? Or would I have to rewire the whole bloody system?

SpeedyG

06-06-2007, 11:45 AM

I tried it last night and it didn't work as expected so I went back to the drawing board. And then I found this: http://www.crutchfield.com/S-SQo5GSLeVGB/cgi-bin/ProdView.asp?i=469MPSS4
which is exactly what we need: an electronic source switcher that can be controlled by the Mute wire from the GPS. It will switch to the GPS sound source when the Mute wire will have signal and then back to the HU once the signal is gone so no need to tap into the steering wheel's Mute button.
Wild Weasel if you have the Bose system the Amp is built-in so the wires that go to your speakers are coming from the output of the Amp. The voice signal from the GPS is too low to be sent directly to the speakers so you would need a small Amp (there are ready made kits as you don't need a HI-FI quality Amp for this) just for the GPS' audio out. Then the switcher should work for you as well.

Wild Weasel

06-06-2007, 03:22 PM

Ah. Very cool!

Are you buying it?

SpeedyG

06-06-2007, 03:47 PM

I've already ordered it. Unfortunately Crutchfield doesn't ship it outside of US :( but I found another dealer (http://www.myradiostore.com/auxadapters/pie/accessories-cables/mpss-4.html) that does so hopefully sometime next week it will be here and I can install it.;)

SpeedyG

07-19-2007, 11:31 PM

Finally I got the P.I.E. after it got lost by Canada Post and MyRadioStore sent a replacement. And guess what it didn't work right out of the box. After doing some research I nailed the issue: I had floating ground from my HU and common ground from the GPS and mixing those through the P.I.E. is about the worst you can do to your audio system ... Anyway to cut to the chase I've fixed the issue with 2 ground loop isolators so now it works just fine as expected: when there is navigation info the P.I.E. mutes the music and you can hear the GPS's voice, after it's done music resumes playing. It's really cool and I'm really happy with the outcome.

Wild Weasel

07-20-2007, 10:33 AM

Very cool man!!

So how are you liking the GPS unit so far? I've been wondering is SWALES is ever going to come back and give an update. I'd like to know how much you guys like the little remote after a few months of use.

SpeedyG

07-20-2007, 06:17 PM

I have no problem with the remote, you get so used to it that you don't actually have to look at it when you're entering data. It's really not an issue. :)

selective sound

07-23-2007, 01:36 PM

You could do the muting with a relay at the speaker lines.

SpeedyG

07-24-2007, 10:34 AM

It still doesn't resolve interfacing the audio from the GPS into the car's existing audio system not to mention that the GPS's mute wire doesn't have enough juice to drive a regular type relay (I am using a solid state relay in order to control the +12V that switches the P.I.E.). Also I think that you 're going to get poping noises in your speakers if you mute the signal using a regular relay. Just my 2 cents.

b3GS

08-03-2007, 11:35 AM

that is one sweet sweet set-up

garboui

08-04-2007, 03:15 PM

You could do the muting with a relay at the speaker lines.

this is what i was thinking

http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z141/garboui/mutingcct.jpg

regarding SpeedyG's concerns a low current signal relay can take less than 20mA of current easially dooable by a signal wire. allthough having it work with the rest of the stereos stock functions such as radio and cd is a bit trickier. a setup with a seperat amp then to a similar relay setup for each of the speaker lines would be needed. allthough with this the amp would have to have a remote gain knob to change the volume of the navi. still easially done with 5 small relays (one for the signal wire the other four to be powered by the signal relay)