View Full Version : Track Day - May 5th - Toronto Motorsport Park
Broli
03-09-2007, 01:11 AM
We have been invited by TM6 to join in on a track day that they are planning
here is the info
The track day has been tentatively set for May 5, 2007.
Location is Toronto Motorsports Park.
Registration Deadline is March 31, 2007.
Cost is $150 / car; $50 / additional driver; Spectators $10
For drivers at reduced rates, they must be a significant other (or dependent)
Duration of the day is 9 am - 5 pm. A very full day at the track.
The following clubs have been invited:
Toronto Mazda 6 (obviously)
Cleveland Mazda 6
Toronto Mazda 3
Toronto Mazda Rx-8
A $75 Deposit is required by March 23, 2007. The deposit is NON-REFUNDABLE.
Any others expressing an interest are certainly welcomed. Our goal is to have 40-50 vehicles attending this event.
Provide your own lunch, or you can purchase lunch ahead of time for an additional $20 due upon remaining balance of deposit.
Please post here to express an interest.
link to TM6 Thread (http://forum.torontomazda6.com/viewtopic.php?t=233)
Thanks to Chris and the TM6 for the invite
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Wild Weasel
03-09-2007, 07:41 AM
We were discussing doing a track day in another thread as well. Someone mentioned that TMP's road course might be a bit dangerous for those of us who haven't done lapping days before.
Can anyone shed some light?
cereal83
03-09-2007, 08:46 AM
Quick question. If I just want to come by myself. Is it only $150 or is it $150 plus $50 because I have a car? lol I am slow. This sounds like it be be tons of fun
Broli
03-09-2007, 08:56 AM
lol
150
the extra 50 is if the car has an additional driver
We were discussing doing a track day in another thread as well. Someone mentioned that TMP's road course might be a bit dangerous for those of us who haven't done lapping days before.
Can anyone shed some light?
no idea . . .
is this where wtom went offroading?
lol
bubba1983
03-09-2007, 09:00 AM
warren went offroading at shannonville
bluntman
03-09-2007, 09:08 AM
I wouldn't mind watching. Can I get a lift from someone participating?
Wild Weasel
03-09-2007, 09:24 AM
warren went offroading at shannonville
Apparently Shannonville is much more forgiving in that if you lose your grip, you'll slide off into grass. It was mentioned that at TMP, you're more likely to hit a wall.
Again... I have no idea. I've only been on the drag strip at TMP so I have no idea where they do and don't have walls. I'm just hoping someone who's done it can elaborate a bit more.
Broli
03-09-2007, 09:26 AM
i will ask one of the guys from TM6 who have been there to elaborate on this issue,
has WUD been there?
saintjames7
03-09-2007, 09:49 AM
I have driven on both tracks. And have never seen anyone go off at TMP or hit the wall. I think every one will be fine, if they build there speed progressively with every lap as they learn the track. At Shannonville the only times I have seen people go off the track are people that are on their first couple of laps driving, driving the car beyond their limits.
I think most people who have never driven on a track would have more fun and feel safer. Enrolling in a 1-day Racing or High performance driving school. Or they should at least do some Autocross events to gain some experience about their selves and their car.
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CLaman
03-09-2007, 10:41 AM
90% of the track has grass there is only one section with a concrete wall. This track is far more forgiving than Mosport which is where the event was orignally going to be held.
Hopefully this answers that question :D
Also Cereal...Broli is correct. Additional drivers are an extra $50 but must be a significant other or dependant. Each car is $150.
Like mentioned....we'd love to have your club out, and make this a combined event to kick off the year. I will be in constant contact with your club, and Broli over the next few weeks.
Remember deposits are due soon. Paypal account is being set up to receive them sometime this weekend.
Wild Weasel
03-09-2007, 10:56 AM
Will I get kicked out if I bring the Sunfire? :bana
Broli
03-09-2007, 11:34 AM
i think ur sunfire would be ok!
but i will leave the answering to CLaman
balhar
03-09-2007, 11:34 AM
Will I get kicked out if I bring the Sunfire? :bana
No you won't. But if you're bringing 2 cars, you gotta pay twice :)
Broli
03-09-2007, 11:36 AM
lol
he aint got no speed3 just yet
:P
sp3GT
03-09-2007, 11:46 AM
As much as I want to go to the track, I think Shannoville will be a better choice for me. I've never tracked before.
Wild Weasel
03-09-2007, 11:48 AM
lol
he aint got no speed3 just yet
:P
Right. And while I'll likely have it by May 5th, there's no way in hell I'd put it on a track before its first oil change. :chuckle
Wild Weasel
03-09-2007, 11:50 AM
As much as I want to go to the track, I think Shannoville will be a better choice for me. I've never tracked before.
Same here. I've only done the drag strip a bunch of times and autox a couple times. But I'm still considering it. :)
Another question... which track will we be on? TMP has 3 configs, don't they?
meah, I was overconfident on that 12th lap when I wiped out at Shannonville last year. I had just rode shotgun in an RSX TypeS prior and that friend was going pretty hard (lowered car, better tires, and much better driving experience).
My 3 was not lowered but had rear anti-sway bar. That combined with the RS-As which were partially melted by that time multiplied by both my inexperience as well as over-confidence equals the outcome that I faced. ;)
This event sounds like fun. Don't worry tho I can't make it so you're all safe. LOL
MaxRPM
03-09-2007, 12:10 PM
Shannonville and TMP are essentially the same. Both have one wall to hit and the rest is all grass. Just remember that you are lapping and not racing and you will be fine.
Here is a two lap video of TMP which includes a nice spin by a V8 240Z
http://thinkingdigital.com/zspin.wmv
BrunoSpengler
03-09-2007, 01:09 PM
It's very interesting to see so many stock cars going around the track at a time. XD
Wild Weasel
03-09-2007, 02:46 PM
How many people are expected to show for this? If there are more, will the price go down or is tm6 looking to make some coin?
Are any TM3 people going yet? Nobody on the interest list yet... and I'm certainly not gonna be the one guy that goes from here who doesn't even have a Mazda... :chuckle
Broli
03-09-2007, 02:50 PM
i wouldn't worry about being the one guy, give it some time hopefully a few will sign up
but the TM6 guys are nice . . so it would be ok even if it ended up that way!
sp3GT
03-09-2007, 08:03 PM
Are you allowed to bring people that drive other cars?
Broli
03-09-2007, 08:07 PM
i think the answer is yes . . .
Maybe next year...I need some rubber first ;)
Kevin@nextmod
03-10-2007, 01:46 AM
too early mang......Do'nt have my tires yet.
chinsterr
03-10-2007, 02:24 AM
Maybe next year...I need some rubber first ;)
I went tracking at shanonnville last year with the RS-As ... lol it was quite the experience . Track was wet from rain in the morning and i was all over the place!!
Is cayauga normally more expensive than shanonnville ? just out of curiousity.
CLaman
03-10-2007, 09:32 AM
As much as I want to go to the track, I think Shannoville will be a better choice for me. I've never tracked before.
This is a newbie friendly track. It has been designed purposely for enthusiasts looking to learn how to drive on a track.
We are also looking to get some instructors on site. Which may make you feel better. You really are in good hands at TMP, and we will take care of you.
CLaman
03-10-2007, 09:54 AM
Will I get kicked out if I bring the Sunfire? :bana
You're sunfire is perfectly acceptable
Same here. I've only done the drag strip a bunch of times and autox a couple times. But I'm still considering it. :)
Another question... which track will we be on? TMP has 3 configs, don't they?
It will be on the circuit park track which is 3.0 kms, and is the best track to be challenging yourself.
It's very interesting to see so many stock cars going around the track at a time. XD
By having many stock cars, it makes it a much more level playing field. While we don't plan on doing a full out race because nobody wants their car damaged, we will be looking to do time trials, and possibly a handicapping system for cars which have been modified....prizes will be set up for overall division leaders.
How many people are expected to show for this? If there are more, will the price go down or is tm6 looking to make some coin?
Are any TM3 people going yet? Nobody on the interest list yet... and I'm certainly not gonna be the one guy that goes from here who doesn't even have a Mazda... :chuckle
LOL...we don't bite...even if you are the only one too show. We need to have 40 cars to break even.
Nobody is looking to make a profit here, we've tried to calculate in advance what the cost will be based on our quote. In the event a profit is turned, the profits are heading straight back into the club, to cover our hosting fees. So if you are worried one person is walking away with money...no, but if the club does benefit from it, great. It just means that combined meets later this year will be cheaper as the club can kick into the cost.
I really wouldn't worry about the sunfire. I have a Z-24 at home, but it is undriveable as it is missing a rear end at the moment.
Are you allowed to bring people that drive other cars?
Other cars are most certainly welcomed. We hope to have a few from ClubSi, and we also have a member with a speed 6 coming with his car, and his brother will be coming with the modified R/T neon.
Maybe next year...I need some rubber first ;)
Many people will be running on stockers, myself included. My Falken 615s are not going to be in on time i don't think.
I went tracking at shanonnville last year with the
Is cayuga normally more expensive than shanonnville ? just out of curiousity.
yes it is. If all goes well with this event, we may host another event in Shannonville late in the summer. However, we hope to do a day at the TMPs strip as well.
One thing to consider is this. On a test and tune night, the average person pays $20 / run. I normally get in 3-4 runs in a night.
This is $150 for a 9-5 day. It really is a very reasonable amount of money. Considering that we are paying for maximum insurance rates, 4 corner workers, ambulance on site, Pylons to modify the the course configuration.
Plus the location is a reasonable driving distance from where wwe are all located.
Wild Weasel
03-10-2007, 12:42 PM
Good stuff. I've got a couple RSX-S friends that might be interested as well then. I'll bring it up with them.
I wasn't concerned that someone might be making money. If they are, then good for them. I was just hopeful that maybe the price might come down if enough people signed up. :)
I'm still very much on the fence on this for now though. I don't have the money for it... but I'd really like to go. :)
I'm still very much on the fence on this for now though. I don't have the money for it... but I'd really like to go. :)
:werd
CLaman
03-10-2007, 02:10 PM
Totally understand.
Remember its not $150 up front.
It's $75 to deposit, and then another $75 is due by march 31. That my may ke you feel a little more at ease.
Broli
03-12-2007, 12:15 AM
if u guys are looking for people . . . focuscanada maybe a place to check out too!
they are usually into this sort of event
CoolColombian
03-12-2007, 06:35 PM
I would like to assist to this event and already have company that is willing to sit in the car with me while in the track but I don't wanna be the only 3 put there, would it be funnier with some other 3s.
CoolColombian
03-12-2007, 06:35 PM
Didn't see the double post until now. :s
bubba1983
03-12-2007, 08:39 PM
waiting to take the ian law school before i hit anymore tracks!
Wild Weasel
03-13-2007, 07:52 AM
cc: It's looking more and more like I'll be there to keep you company. :)
Quick question thoughl... since we're paying half up front, and I'm assuming the TM6 club is on the hook for the track no matter what... what's the plan in the event that it rains? Will we get the deposit back if we show up at the track and can't run?
CLaman
03-13-2007, 10:00 AM
Rain or shine the event is going to happen.
In the event of snow we will work something out with the track.
CLaman
03-13-2007, 10:03 AM
In the event we can not run, or the event gets de-railed due to a lack of interest...
because we do need to at least break even....
but...IF...this happens you will all get your money back without question.
Hmmmm... tempting... Warren, why aren't you going? Is Kevin going?
Whos ur dadd
03-19-2007, 05:38 PM
Doesn't Mosport have elevation changes that might be difficult for noobs? I actually thought there were more concrete barriers than Shannonville (but then again, I've only been to Shannonville and Dunnville). All I've heard is that Mosport is more difficult than Shannonville...
MajesticBlueNTO
03-19-2007, 11:07 PM
Doesn't Mosport have elevation changes that might be difficult for noobs? I actually thought there were more concrete barriers than Shannonville (but then again, I've only been to Shannonville and Dunnville). All I've heard is that Mosport is more difficult than Shannonville...
this is TMP ...the re-named Cayuga.
Mosport long track (the one that the ALMS runs on) is definitely not for those that have are 1) new to the track and 2) have never taken lessons on that particular track.
The DDT (Driver Development Track) at Mosport, otherwise, is fine.
chinsterr
03-20-2007, 01:08 AM
Doesn't Mosport have elevation changes that might be difficult for noobs? I actually thought there were more concrete barriers than Shannonville (but then again, I've only been to Shannonville and Dunnville). All I've heard is that Mosport is more difficult than Shannonville...
Yup, I warned TM3'ers of this in one of my other posts.
Whos ur dadd
03-20-2007, 02:37 AM
this is TMP ...the re-named Cayuga.
Mosport long track (the one that the ALMS runs on) is definitely not for those that have are 1) new to the track and 2) have never taken lessons on that particular track.
The DDT (Driver Development Track) at Mosport, otherwise, is fine.
MBN, TMP (formerly Cayuga) = Mosport? If not, sorry if I've confused them.
MajesticBlueNTO
03-20-2007, 10:42 AM
MBN, TMP (formerly Cayuga) = Mosport? If not, sorry if I've confused them.
you're confused :) TMP != Mosport
TMP's in Cayuga (http://www.torontomotorsportspark.com/raceway/home.htm)...not too far from dunnville.
Mosport's in Bowmanville (http://www.mosport.com)
MaxRPM
03-20-2007, 12:17 PM
Mosport = Big track, grand prix track, NOT for beginners, very highspeed, some walls, need experience and maturity to drive this track safely
Mosport DDT = Driver Development Track, small track, safer then main track not as safe as Shannonville or Toronto Motorsport Park, small run off
Shannonville = SMP, great technical track to learn, one wall
Toronto Motorsport Park = TMP, part of Cayuga drag way, great technical track to learn, one wall
Dunville = never been, supposed tobe smaller then TMP and SMP.
Good summary! From that I wouldn't mind trying TMP or SMP one day.
CLaman
03-21-2007, 08:54 AM
I need 30 people total to have this event running.
I have about 13 people in various clubs that I can see this far.
I need a final I'm in, and deposits to tm6.accounts.1@torontomazda6.com via Paypal.
In the event....this event can not run due to a lack of interest...the deposits will be returned no questions asked.
CLaman
03-21-2007, 09:03 AM
I should add that if we get 14-16 people we can run a half day event.
deposits are also due in by tommorrow night.
Whos ur dadd
03-21-2007, 10:42 AM
I'll check with some friends re: a half day event.
I'd recommend a half day event since there are a lot of novices in the group. Running a full day is hard on the driver and the car. My .02.
I'd be interested if it's a half day. Please let us know. Oh, and it's an A3 if that's ok with you folks.
CLaman
03-22-2007, 07:28 PM
pricing is literally going to depend on genuine interest. more people = less money
Whos ur dadd
03-23-2007, 02:53 AM
So, have you determined whether you're running a full day or half day?
CLaman
03-23-2007, 09:54 AM
It depends on the deposit situation. we are most certainly in a half day event right now.
If I have nothing by this evening the whole event is being scrapped.
Wild Weasel
03-23-2007, 11:14 AM
Sorry guys. :( I just can't commit to this right now. There's a number of things coming up around the 5th and I don't even know which car I'll have.
I'd love to be there... but the timing just isn't working for me.
CLaman
03-23-2007, 08:05 PM
It's with regret i have to inform you all...
Event has been suspended. I didn't receive enough deposits to run the event.
The deposit I have received is being returned.
Terribly sorry guys, I was really hoping to get this one off the ground. Maybe next time.
I really appreciate all of the interest you folks showed...but even in my own club where we've been discussing this for months, nothing was sprung forward.
-Chris
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