New to the forum, but experienced in electronic countermeasures for your cars

[rcd001]

HI All,

I've been driving my M3 for quite some time. Been wanting to actively join this community but I kept putting it off.

Wanted to thank everyone for the warm welcome and I look forward to being an active member in this community. I will definatley try to make it out to meets and try to host some events myself.

A little about me:

I consult for many people in Ontario on my ways to avoid speeding tickets. That is basically it. This is done by suggesting different techniques of driving and electronic equipment.

I can also provide technical information on how police laser and radar works, common errors by police and arguments to use in court. I'm not a lawyer, but speed evasion has been a hobby of mine for the last 3 years.

My M3 has treated me good, and very happy with it.

Take care, and always feel free to ask.

[Skarbro]

What do you mean by electronic countermeasures? Are you talking about radar detectors?

And what do you mean by driving techniques? Is that just driving below the speed limit?

Sounds like you have some useful info (i.e. the common errors by police and arguments to use in court).

[majic]

from his sig


LPP laser jammer

not sure if i like what he has to offer :whoa

[rcd001]

Selling radar detectors in Ontario is illegal, and I do not endorce or encourage such activities. I can suggest how to obtain them and what type to use. Eg, no low cost Cobras or the OPP spectre will nab you.

Driving techniques, using a rabbit as your prey or places to look for speed traps.

[rcd001]

LPP/Laser Pro Park is a diode based parking assistant. It works on the same principle of Infinitis and Volvo's active cruise control.

Like the above, it is just as effective as creating an invisable sheild in front or behind your vehcle giving you valuable time to slow down and smile to the LEO (law inforcement officer).

[Skarbro]

LPP/Laser Pro Park is a diode based parking assistant. It works on the same principle of Infinitis and Volvo's active cruise control.

Like the above, it is just as effective as creating an invisable sheild in front or behind your vehcle giving you valuable time to slow down and smile to the LEO (law inforcement officer).
I don't understand. Can you elaborate? What exactly does it do?

[Skarbro]

Selling radar detectors in Ontario is illegal, and I do not endorce or encourage such activities. I can suggest how to obtain them and what type to use. Eg, no low cost Cobras or the OPP spectre will nab you.

Driving techniques, using a rabbit as your prey or places to look for speed traps.
I know that their illegal! I'm not stupid. And what on earth are you talking about? Using a rabbit? I drive a Mazda, not a VW. LOL :chuckle j/k

[Wild Weasel]

This guy is ultimately going to try and sell us something. I just know it. :chuckle

[rcd001]

Basically, if a lidar targets your vehcile it does this by sending muiltiple pulses on infared light at the speed of light. Using the speed of light as a reference they can determine your speed by the rate of the reflection back to the gun.

Your front plates and headlights are the main target area.

The LPP receives those pulses and then matches them. You get 0 speed reading on the police gun until you turn it off (slow down and then turn off to not attract attention).

Using a rabit. Have a vehicle in front of you at roughly 500 - 800 meters and use them to get the LEO attention and watch for their brakes.

Radar detectors are illegal for sale in Ontario, but not to manufacture. Beltronics/Escort have their main plant in Mississauga, ON....

They are only illegal to use in a motor vehicle, but you can have it in the vehicle if you are transporting it to a place outside the province.

The starting fine is $100.00 plus user fee, but on a second offence it will jump to $500 and 3 points.

How do police know I have radar detector is the question and what can we do?

Do I want to sell something. That is not a simple question. My ultimate goal is to help change the way of thinking we have in this province and learn how these devices work, what to llok for, what to avoid, and what are their limitations.

In terms of buying them, as sales of these in Ontario are illegal and police use this forum or browse it I wiould not sell. I would advice how tou can get them and from what sources at what price.

The LPP is legal for sale as it is designed as a parking sensor. To see it in action, go to youtube and do a search for the LPP and you will get a better idea. I have 50 videos up there plus there are hundreds more across North America and Europe.

[Skarbro]

Sounds pretty illegal to me.

[rcd001]

It is as illegal as after market parts for your Mazda. EG. I installed 8K HID on my M3, it could be considered illegal because it is not stock. An exhaust system.

Window tinting, plate covers.

They can all be described as illegal if examined.

The LPP is just as legal/illegal as active cruise control found on Infinitis, Volov, Mercedes. They both work on the same principle: Liode based infrared transmitter.

This device is not intended to encourage racing or what not, but it will assist you if driving in a speed trap area. EG. South on Don Mills, North of York Mills rd, their is a steep hill and if you ride your brakes you will pre-maturilly wear them out if you don't downshift and burn excess fuel.

It is about leveling the playing field where in this case the police had the upper hand. D

Do you know why radar detectors are bannerd and when? It happened in the early 80's during the North American fuel crisis and when the speed limit was set at 55MPH (it was imperial in Canada then). It has never been lifted because speeding fines account for a large tax revenue for the province.

[Wild Weasel]

I knew it!!! :chuckle

Need to call MythBusters...

[Skarbro]

if you don't downshift and burn excess fuel.

How does downshifting down a hill burn excess fuel?


The LPP is just as legal/illegal as active cruise control found on Infinitis, Volov, Mercedes. They both work on the same principle: Liode based infrared transmitter.

So you are saying that the OEM systems in Infinitis, Volvos and Mercedes are illegal? Are you implying that they make radar/laser guns read 0 km/h like your device?

[Jeff-TheBiz]

Need to call MythBusters...

And the police.

[Caz]

The best way to avoid speeding tickets is to stop speeding!

[rcd001]

First things first. Jamming radar is a very difficuklt thing to accomplish. That is also federally controled by the CRTC and the FAA. Their are such devices that can jam police radar but I would not even mention the name. Rocky mountain radar does not work as it is passive, only active jammers would work and that is a VERY BIG Issue.

Police laser (technical term "lidar") is provincial as low powered diodes (class M1) do not jam radar. They do jam laser in a very effective manner.

I'm working on some videos with the new Infiniti, and from testing in the field it has successfully jammed police lidar if they use the older ultralyte 20/20 and the newer LTI or deadly stalker.

On the newer models it does not JTG (jam to gun) all the time but causes the time for the gun to display your speed to increase. This was not done on purpose. If this was the case, having a matt black car would be illegal. The darker your car the more difficult to get a speed reading.

Good link.

www.guysoflidar.com (http://www.guysoflidar.com) ----- reviews of such product and they don't sell anything

Yes, by not speeding you will never get a speeding ticket.

Driving at 101 Km/h on the highway is speeding. You will probably not get stopped until 120+, but on a slow day people have gotten tickets at 115 km/h.

As I have mentioned, I introduced myself to be able to provide info on electronic items or various tactics to use in court. Yes I do sell some products, but I have not tried or will try to sell anything.

Everyone has an area where the knowledge is good, and my hobby just happens to be speed countermesures. I am sure some people have good knowledge on how to make the M3 have more juice with modifications, they would talk about what product to use.

Their product could make your car go faster or quicker, the products I know about protect you if you occasionally go the other side and break a major capital crime of speeding on an open road.

[Caz]

I hope there are no cops on the forum. LOL

[Jeff-TheBiz]

I hope there are no cops on the forum. LOL

Funny part is, there are.

[rcd001]

I'm sure their are a lot of cops here. I'm also a member on the police forum. I chat with them and they are more then happy to brag about the speeders they catch. It's all a cat and mouse game, nothing personal to most.

A lot of cops have Rd's in the cars for their own pleasure driving.

[Jeff-TheBiz]

Police forum? This I gotta see...

Whats the link?

[Sean80]

How does downshifting down a hill burn excess fuel?


simply because the motor is revving at a higher rpm when you downshift. Higher rpm means more gas being burned up.

On another note, think of the rabbit as bait. I always do this while driving. I wait for a car to pass me going a decent speed, let him get ahead of me, then just keep an eye on his brake lights and up your cruising speed. Works like a charm and it's really funny when they get nabbed lol. I'm not an excessive speeder, but this allows you to go a little faster without much worry.

[Skarbro]

simply because the motor is revving at a higher rpm when you downshift. Higher rpm means more gas being burned up.

Huh? That doesn't make any sense. Going down a hill, if you downshift, it is assumed that you have your foot OFF the accelerator. You are not using any more gas than if you were in a higher gear with your foot off the accelerator.

Simply shifting into a lower gear does not use more gas.

[Wild Weasel]

Huh? That doesn't make any sense. Going down a hill, if you downshift, it is assumed that you have your foot OFF the accelerator. You are not using any more gas than if you were in a higher gear with your foot off the accelerator.

Simply shifting into a lower gear does not use more gas.

To add to that, when you downshift and let off the gas to decelerate or hold your speed on a hill, you're actually using ZERO gas. I don't think Sean80 quite knows how engines work... :)

[Skarbro]

:werdExactly!

[Sean80]

hmmm.... learn something new everyday. For some reason I thought that downshifting and having the rpm's up would still use gas, but now that I think about it, it would just be the tires/transmission turning the motor?? someone help me out here lol.

[rcd001]

forums.realpolice.net but google and you will find a lot.

[Sean80]

To add to that, when you downshift and let off the gas to decelerate or hold your speed on a hill, you're actually using ZERO gas. I don't think Sean80 quite knows how engines work... :)

I feel like a complete moron for writing that. Don't really know what I was thinking when I wrote that. Of course its not using gas because your foot is off the pedal, the throttle body is closed, meaning the injectors are not spraying fuel into the engine. The engine is being turned by the tires/transmission. I'm not even close to being an expert, but I do somewhat understand what is going on..... I think.

[rcd001]

I heard that when you downshift you put excess stress and wear on the engine? Is that true, because to me it seems it is designed to work in this function.

[Skarbro]

I heard that when you downshift you put excess stress and wear on the engine? Is that true
In general this is absolutely not true. But if downshifting causes you to redline, then that is not good for the powertrain. But then again, if you downshifting into redline, then you have no business driving a manual! :)

[rcd001]

I redlined once when I first got the car and the shifter was working in. Totally by accident and I hit the clutch right away. Will this one time cause me problems or should not worry about it?

[Skarbro]

I wouldn't worry about it.

[Sean80]

I beleive the owner's manual says right in it to downshift in order to save brake wear.

[justin]

And the police.

Did that already. Spoke to a good friend from York today, what you have is VERY illegal and if caught selling it or in possession of one in your vehicle, you will have to pay some very serious fines, not to mention a court date and having your unit confiscated and probably destroyed.

A word of advice, please do not attempt to sell this item on this board.:complain

[Caz]

A word of advice, please do not attempt to sell this item on this board.:complain

+1 we don't need our name/club assoicated with this type of product.