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howitts_done
06-09-2008, 03:17 PM
If you haven't already heard the iPhone 3G will be coming to Rogers and Fido on July 11th.
http://www.apple.com/ca/iphone/
Introducing iPhone 3G. With fast 3G wireless technology, GPS mapping, support for enterprise features like Microsoft Exchange, and the new App Store, iPhone 3G puts even more features at your fingertips. And like the original iPhone, it combines three products in one — a revolutionary phone, a widescreen iPod, and a breakthrough Internet device with rich HTML email and a desktop-class web browser. iPhone 3G. It redefines what a mobile phone can do — again
Rogers iPhone plans
http://www.rogers.com/web/content/wireless-products/iphone_voice_data_packages
http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/27/rogers-announces-iphone-3g-plans-unlimited-data-isnt-one-of-th/
Fobio
06-09-2008, 04:01 PM
time to start the battle with Roger's "Customer Rentention" and renew my contract... ;)
Gods Son
06-09-2008, 05:03 PM
Oh boy....looks like im not getting the Np5 anymore. $199 for the 8gb? wow. Excellent price. Steve Jobs takes one more step towards world domination....
The real question is how much are the data plans gonna be...
LockOut
06-09-2008, 05:06 PM
Oh boy....looks like im not getting the Np5 anymore. $199 for the 8gb? wow. Excellent price. Steve Jobs takes one more step towards world domination....
The real question is how much are the data plans gonna be...
Where did you see that price? I looked, but couldn't find a price...
mleblond
06-09-2008, 05:07 PM
Yep 199$....not sure but they might get you under a 10 year contract for that price :chuckle
Gizzmo_jr
06-09-2008, 05:10 PM
$199 US for 8Gb, $299 US for 16Gb, as stated today at WWDC.
zedtech
06-09-2008, 05:12 PM
Considering that My g/f just bought an 8G iPod Touch for almost 300 after taxes, the price of the iPhone 3G is insane! I'm w/ Bell atm but will gladly move to Rogers for the iPhone 3G.
garboui
06-09-2008, 05:17 PM
dang, im really liking this now. I wanted one before but now with the price drop to 200 i just gotta do it. Too bad my contract with Fido doesn't renew for almost 2 years, lol.
Gizzmo_jr
06-09-2008, 05:20 PM
I'm going to get one as soon as it's cracked, give my current v1 to my g/f.
The GPS feature was the deal maker for me.
For what I paid in February, the new price point is jokes. How can you not buy one.
I hardly doubt this will be available for Rogers on July 11th.
Probably next year or so...
They are working on regular iPhone to make it available end of this year.
dmanrevived
06-09-2008, 05:26 PM
I hardly doubt this will be available for Rogers on July 11th.
Probably next year or so...
They are working on regular iPhone to make it available end of this year.
Canada is one of the 20 countries that will be getting the 3G iPhone on July 11th.
I can't seem to find any info about it being available on Fido though. Roger's "unlimited surfing" option is horrible compared to Fido's.
Canada is one of the 20 countries that will be getting the 3G iPhone on July 11th.
I can't seem to find any info about it being available on Fido though. Roger's "unlimited surfing" option is horrible compared to Fido's.
Source?
dmanrevived
06-09-2008, 05:45 PM
Source?
http://www.apple.com/ca/press/2008_06/rogers_iphone.html
:)
ghostdog
06-09-2008, 05:49 PM
well rogers.com has a banner that says something really big will be here July 11th... although not concrete i would bet real money that that ad refers to the iPhone v2 3G...
yes the price seems 'cheap' compared to original iPhone but will probably be a three year term (by the end of it iPhone v5 will be out lol!) and the data rate will be killer... i don't see them lowering it too much if at all... Rogers is licking their chops at new data revenue this will generate... they probably will have a new larger crack team of lawyers all ready to pounce on any 'I didn't know it wasn't unlimited data rate" so all those $5000 bills will be paid or else... :chuckle
http://www.apple.com/ca/press/2008_06/rogers_iphone.html
:)
This is very big move for Apple. Usually manufacturers give exclusivity to major carriers, (in this case AT&T in US) for at least a month.
This also tells me major manufacturers are starting to give big considerations to Canadian market.
JPAV8S4U
06-09-2008, 05:56 PM
Iphone... bah... The Blackberry 9000 is where its at ;) Iphone are pretty... just like the imac...ipod....They are nice looking, but the blackberry 9000 should give it a pretty good run for its business... But if they are throwing out the iphone for 200 bucks..... I think RIM is gonna have to do a cost re-structuring.... 599.99 for the 9000 in the fall.... yikes.. and 399.99 on a three year plan.
dmanrevived
06-09-2008, 05:56 PM
This is very big move for Apple. Usually manufacturers give exclusivity to major carriers, (in this case AT&T in US) for at least a month.
This also tells me major manufacturers are starting to give big considerations to Canadian market.
I think they just gave in because it's so easy to jailbreak/unlock iPhones at no cost these days. Now they're maximizing their profits by going with as many carriers as possible all over the world. :pop
Gods Son
06-09-2008, 06:02 PM
Well it really shows how powerful Apple is. Believe it or not, Apple obviously dictated the price of the phone (There's no way if it was up to Mr. Ted Rogers that he would have it at that price point) and has a say in the data plans that will be launching for the phone. I read somewhere that to Apple its about the "experience" they want the user to have and thats why there was alot of debate between Rogers and apple in regards to data rates. If you have time you can go to another site with forums for howard (hehehe) and read up more about it...
I think they just gave in because it's so easy to jailbreak/unlock iPhones at no cost these days. Now they're maximizing their profits by going with as many carriers as possible all over the world. :pop
True, but comparing few 10s of thousands of units (in Canada) to few millions of units (in US) it is quite a bit of difference for manufacturers.
Especially with Rogers, every phone has to be customized with their branding/applications, I don't know how much Apple will make profits from this.
Gods Son
06-09-2008, 06:04 PM
Iphone... bah... The Blackberry 9000 is where its at ;) Iphone are pretty... just like the imac...ipod....They are nice looking, but the blackberry 9000 should give it a pretty good run for its business... But if they are throwing out the iphone for 200 bucks..... I think RIM is gonna have to do a cost re-structuring.... 599.99 for the 9000 in the fall.... yikes.. and 399.99 on a three year plan.
See and this is what trips me out about the iphone. I originally thought it was a fashion status phone/toy however as a device it apparently has alot of power under the hood. Its pretty obvious Apple is heading into the BB market and at that price point....they will win share.
ghostdog
06-09-2008, 06:08 PM
True, but comparing few 10s of thousands of units (in Canada) to few millions of units (in US) it is quite a bit of difference for manufacturers.
Especially with Rogers, every phone has to be customized with their branding/applications, I don't know how much Apple will make profits from this.
Apple isn't in the game to not make money.... they see themselves making tons of money and that is the only reason they have moved onto the Canadian market with the iPhone.... both Rogers and Apple stand to make tons... in fact Rogers stock will have probably have gone up today because of the iPhone or will once the yearly revenue numbers come in after the release of the iPhone...
zedtech
06-09-2008, 06:31 PM
This is very big move for Apple. Usually manufacturers give exclusivity to major carriers, (in this case AT&T in US) for at least a month.
This also tells me major manufacturers are starting to give big considerations to Canadian market.
Gotta remember too that Rogers purchased Fido from Microcell in 2004. So really, Rogers does have exclusivity for the iPhone under 2 brands.
zedtech
06-09-2008, 06:33 PM
Steve Jobs' keynote speech unveiling the iPhone 3G and its features from today's Apple WWDC '08 Conference is now online btw.
http://events.apple.com.edgesuite.net/0806wdt546x/event/index.html
dmanrevived
06-09-2008, 06:37 PM
Where are you guys seeing that it's coming to Fido too? I'm only seeing Rogers.
zedtech
06-09-2008, 07:08 PM
^^ http://www.apple.com/ca/iphone/buy/
dmanrevived
06-09-2008, 07:17 PM
^^ http://www.apple.com/ca/iphone/buy/
Sweet, thanks!
yearoftherat
06-09-2008, 07:33 PM
Rogers will still stick it to you with their data plans....
dmanrevived
06-09-2008, 07:56 PM
I'm looking at Roger's and Fido's $7 "unlimited surfing" plans. Roger's plan clearly outlines a list of websites that are eligible for this "unlimited surfing". I know they're basically the same company now, but I can't seem to find any limitations on the Fido plan. Maybe that's the way to go?
Fobio
06-09-2008, 10:31 PM
the biggest news is that they'll have to make 3G available to everyone on Rogers...the iPhone is just a phone, and having used it for almost a yr, I can say it's not that great of a phone...but it's a wikkid gadget, amongst many other uses (ie. picking up girl...geeks...)
but the fact that Apple has forced Rogers to go 3G (if that's really true), then the iPhone has more effect on the CDN wireless landscape than any other product thus far...
well, of course, the Blackberry was game changing too...
I might still buy one in the states to hack it...save a little tax...I'm allergic to 3 yr contracts...
Apple did not force Rogers to go 3G, Rogers had 3G service available since last year, it launched with first 3G phone. (I believe 2nd quarter last year)
It was CDMA EVDO rev 0 services that forced Rogers to go 3G which is HSPA, bottom line is the competition with CDMA carriers (Telus and Bell) that forced Rogers to go 3G
Fobio
06-09-2008, 10:47 PM
I don't keep up with the change in prices of Rogers' data plans, but last I checked, my friend was paying just over $100/month for Rogers' 1GB EDGE d/l cap, plus regular service.
To clarify my earlier point, I'm hoping the iPhone will make 3G more widely used, and HOPEFULLY Rogers will lower the price of data plans to be inline with the US. $10/month unlimited surfing anyone?
Steve Jobs' keynote speech unveiling the iPhone 3G and its features from today's Apple WWDC '08 Conference is now online btw.
http://events.apple.com.edgesuite.net/0806wdt546x/event/index.html
that Keynote is impressive as usual!!
Takumi616
06-10-2008, 12:23 PM
FYI - if u purchase those phones 3G phones with rogers u must go on a vision plan for 3yr term
rktsci
06-10-2008, 12:35 PM
FYI - if u purchase those phones 3G phones with rogers u must go on a vision plan for 3yr term
Where have you seen this? There has been nothing official yet on the rate plans/contracts that will be required for the iPhone.
Takumi616
06-10-2008, 12:41 PM
Where have you seen this? There has been nothing official yet on the rate plans/contracts that will be required for the iPhone.
All Rogers 3G phones require a vision pkg if u use 3G feature or not, The reason while u purchase a phone and get $100 credit is because you commit to this vision fee for 3yr term.
yearoftherat
06-10-2008, 12:54 PM
Vision fee for 3 yrs ...yikes !!!
http://usversusthem.files.wordpress.com/2007/10/owned.jpg
Takumi616
06-10-2008, 01:31 PM
yea tell me about it..... just get the phone on Redflag. :chuckle
Skarbro
06-10-2008, 01:36 PM
http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php?t=1271071
ghostdog
06-10-2008, 01:38 PM
I don't keep up with the change in prices of Rogers' data plans, but last I checked, my friend was paying just over $100/month for Rogers' 1GB EDGE d/l cap, plus regular service.
To clarify my earlier point, I'm hoping the iPhone will make 3G more widely used, and HOPEFULLY Rogers will lower the price of data plans to be inline with the US. $10/month unlimited surfing anyone?
$10/unlimited surfing a month in Canada is a pipe dream and unless it is gov't regulated, it will never happen here in Canada... there is collusion amongst the current carriers to keep the data rates high => max profit... and this is not just my opinion but unofficially confirmed by a telco exec firsthand... when challenged the industry spins BS much like how oil prices are defended and how smoking is/was defended (go see 'Thank You for Smoking' although not a documentary it does portray the spins used by big industry to try to get away with murder ala weapons of mass destruction in Iraq, etc., etc.)
Skarbro
06-10-2008, 02:23 PM
$10/unlimited surfing a month in Canada is a pipe dream and unless it is gov't regulated, it will never happen here in Canada... there is collusion amongst the current carriers to keep the data rates high => max profit... and this is not just my opinion but unofficially confirmed by a telco exec firsthand... when challenged the industry spins BS much like how oil prices are defended and how smoking is/was defended (go see 'Thank You for Smoking' although not a documentary it does portray the spins used by big industry to try to get away with murder ala weapons of mass destruction in Iraq, etc., etc.)
I've been on Rogers' $7 unlimited mobile browsing plan since they introduced it. On my N95 I can browse any site I want including WML and HTML sites through the built-in browser - all unlimited for $7 per month.
What I can't do is use 3rd party apps or a non-Rogers phone or I get charged extra. But I can always switch to wifi if I want to use the 3rd party apps.
Skarbro
06-10-2008, 02:25 PM
I'm looking at Roger's and Fido's $7 "unlimited surfing" plans. Roger's plan clearly outlines a list of websites that are eligible for this "unlimited surfing".
Not true. If you read it clearly, it says that you can visit sites "such as..."
I can go to whateverthehell site I want with this plan.
With non-Vision phones you are limited to WAP sites because they can't process HTML information properly.
With the N95 and other Vision phones, they are capable to process HTML sites fine.
I've posted on this forum a few times through my phone and this plan.
Not true. If you read it clearly, it says that you can visit sites "such as..."
I can go to whateverthehell site I want with this plan.
With non-Vision phones you are limited to WAP sites because they can't process HTML information properly.
With the N95 and other Vision phones, they are capable to process HTML sites fine.
I've posted on this forum a few times through my phone and this plan.
Little bit of misinformation here. With WAP browsers (whether Teleca, Openwave, or whichever else) you are not really limited to WAP sites. You can still go to wherever the hell site you want to go. But as you said, WAP browser won't process HTML contents properly.
I am thinking N95 has a Full browser (which supports both WAP and HTML) implemented in that phone which allows you to browse anywhere without much problems, but you are still limited because even with the Full browsers, you cannot view plugin contents (such as Flash) nor JavaScripts.
N95 or non N95, Vision or non vision, you can access whatever page, it's just that you won't be able to view it like you should on a personal computer.
That's why Rogers Vision homepage is still in WAP contents and it will probably remain like that for few more years. :)
Skarbro
06-10-2008, 06:45 PM
where's the misinformation?
With non-Vision phones you are limited to WAP sites because they can't process HTML information properly.
With the N95 and other Vision phones, they are capable to process HTML sites fine.
And why? Explained in my post.
Skarbro
06-10-2008, 09:40 PM
And why? Explained in my post.
Well I said basically the same thing you did. You just elaborated on it. It's not mis-information.
Skarbro
06-10-2008, 09:45 PM
but you are still limited because even with the Full browsers, you cannot view plugin contents (such as Flash) nor JavaScripts.
And just to be clear, this is not entirely true. With many mobile browsers, you can view java scripts. My N95 is pretty good at rendering java on webpages. Flash content, I've yet to confirm. But it does have a built in flash player.
And just to be clear, this is not entirely true. With many mobile browsers, you can view java scripts. My N95 is pretty good at rendering java on webpages. Flash content, I've yet to confirm. But it does have a built in flash player.
I know we're going way off topic here but... two things
1. Java Scripts and Java are two different things. I'm not quite clear on what you mean by rendering Java on web pages.
2. Flash player and being able to view flash contents in a page are two different things.
I only took examples of Java Scripts and Flash, there are numerous other plugins on internet. Also N95 does not have memory capacity that of a computer meaning the browser on it, is still limited to what you can view.
Skarbro
06-11-2008, 05:22 AM
I know we're going way off topic here but... two things
1. Java Scripts and Java are two different things. I'm not quite clear on what you mean by rendering Java on web pages.
2. Flash player and being able to view flash contents in a page are two different things.
I only took examples of Java Scripts and Flash, there are numerous other plugins on internet. Also N95 does not have memory capacity that of a computer meaning the browser on it, is still limited to what you can view.
Honestly, those are semantics. No on expects a phone browser to be any where near as capable as a PC browser. I didn't think that I needed to get that detailed in my posts :)
Honestly, those are semantics. No on expects a phone browser to be any where near as capable as a PC browser. I didn't think that I needed to get that detailed in my posts :)
Welp, it is my profession. :)
yearoftherat
06-19-2008, 06:48 PM
It was on the Global News tonite...monthly plan is said to be $90 :whoa
chinsterr
06-19-2008, 07:26 PM
In terms of data plans ......
You nubs forget the iphone has youtube. To take advantage of that function, Rogers is going to have to introduce a dataplan with more than just the $7/month crap right now. I don't know how they are going to do this without enforcing a monthly limit (ie. 1gb). A 500MB limit/month for youtube+surf+email is definitely not enough.
As for the phone....
My iphone drops calls left right and center. I agree with fabio, shit phone in terms of reception and call quality. However, it is by far one of the neatest gadgets out on the market today. Everyone and their grandma was fascinated with it when I picked it up last year. Friends who have had N95s all switched over to iphones as soon as I showed them mine, no lie (sorry skarboro et al.). Surfing on the iphone is just so much easier on the iphone than N95, and the screen is a lot nicer for movies ... not to mention it's user interface.
Even though I already have an unlocked iphone, I'll definitely pick up another one from rogers just to be able to use 3G. Thank God for customer retentions :) (my plan is up in a month)
chinsterr
06-19-2008, 07:54 PM
From http://www.redflagdeals.com/forums/showthread.php?t=111887&page=995
I question its legitimacy ....
Just off the press
iPhone data UNLIMITED data plan = 30$ with qualifying voice plan.
45$ for corporate users
No word on qualifying voice plans.
Bravo rogers, bravo! (not sarcasm)
(taken from Howardforums)
Quote:
BREAKING NEWS!
I'M RELEASING THE INFO YOU'VE ALL BEEN WAITING FOR! Join my iPhone group on facebook: http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=25794256076
***Confidential Rogers Information. For Internal Distribution Only.***
Rogers and Apple today announced that the iPhone 3G will be available in Canada on July 11. iPhone 3G combines three products into one small, lightweight device: a revolutionary mobile phone, a widescreen iPod, and it puts the Internet in your pocket with the best e-mail, web browsing, search and maps applications ever on a mobile phone.
The new version of the iPhone harnesses the power of Rogers's broad and powerful 3G mobile broadband network, which offers 3G mobile phones download speeds of up to 1.4 Mbps.
Key Device Features:
Operates on Wi-Fi, EDGE, and 3G networks
New enterprise e-mail capability with support for Microsoft Exchange ActiveSync
New iPhone software development kit (SDK) to support new innovative applications
New Activation Process and Return Policy:
The iPhone 3G will be activated at point of sale when the device is purchased, in store. The Fido grace period will change from 15 days to 30 days and will require the device to be returned to place of purchase before service is cancelled. The 30-day Rogers grace period will remain unchanged with the exception of no limits being imposed for voice or data usage.
Pricing and Plans
Device Pricing:
$199 8GB and $299 16GB for new activations and qualified upgrades with existing 2 or 3-year agreements.
Data Plans and Pricing:
The iPhone 3G will be activated on existing Rogers and Fido voice rate plans, but new data plans have been created for the 3G device.
All iPhone 3G customers are required to have one of the new data plans and qualifying voice plan.
Customers intending to use the iPhone 3G for access to corporate e-mail, business applications, or access to corporate intranet are required to activate with Enterprise Data Plan for iPhone.
SUP service discounts for both voice and data plans will apply to iPhone 3G.
RAC service discounts for voice and data will apply to iPhone 3G, when on a qualifying data plan.
Ambassadors will not get a discount on device purchase for iPhone 3G.
Data Pricing will be as follows:
Consumer Data Plan (must be added to qualified voice plan):
$30 - Unlimited Data (E-mail/Web), includes Visual Voicemail when subscribed to any voicemail service.
Enterprise Data Plan (must be added to qualified voice plan):
$45 – Unlimited Data with personal and corporate e-mail, web, includes Visual Voicemail when subscribed to any voicemail service.
Upgrade Eligibility and Qualified Upgrade Pricing
Upgrade eligibility will be determined based on standard upgrade eligibility rules. Customers must be upgrade eligible to receive the qualified upgrade pricing. However, not all customers will be qualified upgrades. Rogers has not determined the price of the 3G device for non-qualified upgrades.
All customers will be required to sign a 3-year agreement. There will not be a "no commitment" price or a 2-year agreement for the iPhone 3G.
Activation Process
The new 3G device will be activated in store in Rogers, Fido and Apple stores. Customers must accept Rogers and Apple terms of service, sign a 3-year agreement, and select the data plan for the iPhone 3G before leaving the store. A short tether process to unbrick the 3G device will be performed in all Rogers and Fido stores (tether cords will be provided). Apple stores will also perform this tether process, however in the event that a customer's device is not tethered in the Apple store, their device will be inoperable until they get home and tether through iTunes. Prepaid will not be allowed on the iPhone 3G device.
RAC tools, including TOE and Salescentral have been modified to allow agents to enter customer's information, select rate plans and data plans, device price (if applicable) and output a document that will allow store reps to quickly access the customer's information and save time for data entry in the activation process.
Compensation
Because the 3G device will only be activated in store, compensation for the 3G device will be BAU. RAC reps will receive compensation for upgrades and new activations with a 3-year agreement.
Purchase Limit
The device purchase limit will be three (3) per customer for iPhone 3G in Rogers and Fido stores.
Direct Fulfillment
The DFU tool will be available at launch at RAC for iPhone 3Gs. Customers will be required to pay for the device when the order is placed and the phone will be shipped to the store in the customer's name for pickup.
Return Policy
The return policy for Fido iPhone 3G is changing from 15 days to 30 days for both Apple and Fido stores. The 30-day Rogers grace period will remain unchanged with the exception of no limits being imposed for voice or data usage.
To cancel service within the first 30 days, the customer must return their equipment to the place of purchase (no exceptions).
If the customer cancels service after 30 days, they will be charged the ECF and DECF. The customer is not required to return the device to cancel after 30 days.
Merchandising/Marketing
3G demos will be pulled from stock when they arrive following launch process for display devices.
Video loop content will be pushed to stores when it is available.
The following merchandising elements will be in stores for launch:
Rate brochure and display rate card
22 x 28 poster
Window banner
Training
Device training, including features and functionality, will be available via Library and Fidoversity by 6/30.
Training for all representatives will begin no later than 7/1.
Launch preparedness training, including last minute details, will be conducted the week of launch (if needed) by team leaders.
Communications/Library
All iPhone-related communications, inclusive of training announcements, will be posted to Library. Search on keyword "iPhone 3G" to locate.
Launch Plans
Support logistics for launch day will be available:
Letters will be sent to all landlords under VP/GM signature for advance notice of store hours, crowds expected, possible parking issues, etc.
Security will be provided for locations requesting armed police or unarmed, uniformed guards.
Manager checklists will be provided to support managers to set expectations and help them be prepared to complete all required actions.
Documents will be posted on TGP to let managers know when to expect delivery of launch support materials.
Job descriptions for key launch day functions will be provided for: Back Office Manager, Crowd Manager, Greeter, Product Demonstrator, and Security Support.
***Confidential Rogers Information. For Internal Distribution Only.***
This is the info given to me. As always, nothing is official until it's released publicly. But it all looks good! This source has been 100% correct every single time thus far.
Kevin@nextmod
06-19-2008, 08:31 PM
time to use my $140 fido dollars. Woot! 16gb iphone for $160
WeatherB
06-19-2008, 10:45 PM
So you can't get the iPhone without a data plan... No wonder why they are offering the $30 plan...
"All iPhone 3G customers are required to have one of the new data plans and qualifying voice plan."
So you can't get the iPhone without a data plan... No wonder why they are offering the $30 plan...
"All iPhone 3G customers are required to have one of the new data plans and qualifying voice plan."
Ya that'll suck. I just want it for a phone/mp3 player. Junk.
Dragazn
06-21-2008, 01:14 PM
I can't wait till it comes out.. I got fido training on the 3rd for the iphone... WOOOT!!!!!
Dan Da Man
06-21-2008, 07:10 PM
blackberry bold is what im waiting for, nvm this iphone my gf has had it for a while its cool but meh.
chinsterr
06-22-2008, 04:06 AM
blackberry bold is what im waiting for, nvm this iphone my gf has had it for a while its cool but meh.
yup, I really can't decide what I'm going to get.
I already have an iphone but I really miss the tactile feel of buttons.
baymoe
06-22-2008, 04:32 AM
$199 for 8gb, $299 for 16gb
Phone cannot be purchased on its own without the mandatory data plan.
Data plan $30 for regular users, $45 for individuals that use it to access your work email. Regular voice plan is extra on top of the data plan.
Minimum of 3 year contract for new activations and hardware upgrade.
All in all, i'm not looking forward to getting it. On top of that, who the hell uses a cellphone more than 2 years anyways :loco? It's a commodity and most people change phones like underwear nowadays.
Dragazn
06-22-2008, 10:43 AM
the iphone will definitely be sold on its on and probably fairly cheap too... not legitimitely anyways but head to pmall and im sure after a couple of weeks you'll see them being sold on their own.
chinsterr
06-22-2008, 11:29 AM
the iphone will definitely be sold on its on and probably fairly cheap too... not legitimitely anyways but head to pmall and im sure after a couple of weeks you'll see them being sold on their own.
I doubt it will be less than 299. Think about it, an ipod touch is 299 for an 8gb. Why would the phone sell for less ?
zedtech
06-22-2008, 12:02 PM
I'm expecting iPod Touch prices to drop soon too ;) Stock is getting limited these days at retailers and the Apple Store. They're due for an update of some sort so I'd say they're either going to adjust the pricing and/or slightly tweak the iPod Touch to reflect the price drop of the iPhone 3G.
Dragazn
06-22-2008, 12:54 PM
I doubt it will be less than 299. Think about it, an ipod touch is 299 for an 8gb. Why would the phone sell for less ?
I didn't say it was going to sell for less, but isn't 299 for an 8gb iphone fairly cheap? There you go...
baymoe
06-22-2008, 01:12 PM
I didn't say it was going to sell for less, but isn't 299 for an 8gb iphone fairly cheap? There you go...
Where did you even get that price? It's $199 for a 8gb, however, that's with a 3-year contract.
Dragazn
06-22-2008, 01:24 PM
Where did you even get that price? It's $199 for a 8gb, however, that's with a 3-year contract.
We were talking about getting the phone out right without a contract, and that 299 for buying the iphone outright is a fairly cheap price.
Gizzmo_jr
06-22-2008, 01:58 PM
We were talking about getting the phone out right without a contract, and that 299 for buying the iphone outright is a fairly cheap price.
I don't think you get the concept. The prices 199/299 are subsidized, Apple gets the remaining actual value off the data/voice plans sold with the phone, based off the 3 years (Canada, 2 years USA) because they include a markup for Apples profit. Hence why there are specific companies (AT&T, Rogers) to sell mandatory voice/data contracts with the iPhone.
Unsubsidized phones won't be sold in Canada/USA. Apple lost to much revenue on v1 iPhone. But countries like Italy, France, UK and Germany I believe, by law must allow the purchase of unsubsidized phones. The rumor is 499 and 569 Euros. That's $792CAD for 8gb, and $903CAD for 16Gb.
iTouch's are dirt cheap, they are freebies with iMac's right now and I suspect they may get a price drop soon.
sunnyhomeboy
06-26-2008, 11:06 PM
i want the white one...is that available at rogers too?
howitts_done
06-27-2008, 10:13 AM
Rogers plans are up but no unlimited data?
Rogers iPhone plans
http://www.rogers.com/web/content/wireless-products/iphone_voice_data_packages
http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/27/rogers-announces-iphone-3g-plans-unlimited-data-isnt-one-of-th/
If you want the iPhone, you’ll need to stay on your current plan + a min. $30 data plan for the duration of the 3 yr contract.
So potentially, it will be ($30 * 36 + 199[phone price]) *1.13 = $1445.27
At least that's the price you are paying at the end of your term.
yearoftherat
06-27-2008, 01:47 PM
HOLY FAWK...1445.27 !!!
Why not just get an unlocked iPhone and use the built in wifi???
HOLY FAWK...1445.27 !!!
Why not just get an unlocked iPhone and use the built in wifi???
But how am i supposed to read my TM3 threads while being stuck in 401 traffic during rush hour? :chuckle
Prices are ridiculous and yet again Canada remains the only country in the developed world with high mobile phone/device fees. Its probably cheaper in developing countries too.
howitts_done
06-27-2008, 04:22 PM
On macrumors.com I read someone's comments about how they emailed Steve Jobs... so I did the same thing.
Hello Steve Jobs (or Customer support),
I've been what many would call an "Apple Fanboy" for years. I truly love Apple products and have made it standard practice to tout your virtues wherever I go and I have been waiting for the iPhone to come to Canada for over a year now. Unfortunately, that all ends today.
Rogers Communications recently released their iPhone plans ahead of the July 11th launch and they are abysmal. No unlimited data and no plan flexibility whatsoever. For a new device touted as "Business Friendly" and "Enterprise Ready" it sure doesn't seem that way. Following a great start it appears you have abandoned us (your customers) to the carriers. I am referring to your refusal to sell the original iPhone without unlimited data because what's the point of having an iPhone if you have to worry about data!? For a brief moment it appeared there was hope for regular users, a fleeting moment.
So to put it in perspective
$60.00 - Price plan
$0.50 - 911 Access fee
$6.95 - System Access fee
$15.00 - Caller ID
$82.45 - Sub Total
$4.13 - GST (it's actually $4.1225, but we'll round up)
$6.60 - PST (it's actually $6.596, but we'll round up)
$10.73 - Total Taxes
$93.18 - Complete Monthly Total.
This of course excludes the price of the iPhone itself, and any associated fees if you want to cross-grade, presuming you can, from your existing plan if your a current subscriber. I know it'll cost me $400 ECF (Early Cancellation Fee) as I've got more than 20 months on my 3 year plan left, so ignoring any cross-grade offers (coming from Telus), I'd probably be looking at...
$299.00 - 16GB iPhone 3G
$337.87 including taxes
$400 - ECF (not sure if taxes apply to that or not, we'll say not for the moment)
$737.87 - Final cost of new iPhone and ECF to get out of current contract.
Then we add on the $93 a month for the new plan.
It's a sad day for all your Canadian customers.
Sincerely,
********
07three
06-27-2008, 07:19 PM
If this is how much they are gonna charge im gonna wait until someone pulls a few scams lol. Eff this prices man. 93 bucks more per month going into Ted Rogers pocket, it aint happening.
Yup...the monopoly wins again. No unlimited data plan.
sp3GT
06-27-2008, 07:52 PM
This sucks that you can't just get the phone with a regular voice plan. There goes my plan.
chinsterr
06-27-2008, 08:14 PM
I didn't say it was going to sell for less, but isn't 299 for an 8gb iphone fairly cheap? There you go...
HA HA
Buy the phone relatively cheap? LMMFAO that was nothing but a pipe dream.
Looks like my iphone just went up in value... any takers for $600 :)
yearoftherat
06-27-2008, 10:26 PM
Roger just release the details of the data plan.
http://www.prnewswire.com/cgi-bin/stories.pl?ACCT=104&STORY=/www/story/06-27-2008/0004840130&EDATE=
Roger just release the details of the data plan.
http://www.prnewswire.com/cgi-bin/stories.pl?ACCT=104&STORY=/www/story/06-27-2008/0004840130&EDATE=
It is on their website now too:
http://www.rogers.com/web/content/wireless-products/iphone_voice_data_packages
Skarbro
06-28-2008, 07:08 PM
those plans are absolutely terrible. Why would anyone pay those prices for such low amounts of data and such crappy voice plans?
yearoftherat
06-28-2008, 07:45 PM
People will pay just because they want an iPhone...like cows going to a slaughter...
Since there is real no competition for Rogers, they can charge anything they want. I wish we has the same type of cell phone competition the US has.
those plans are absolutely terrible. Why would anyone pay those prices for such low amounts of data and such crappy voice plans?
+1
Shotta-KB
06-29-2008, 03:07 AM
Although I'm a big Apple fan...(MacBook Pro user over here yay!), umm what was i saying..oh yea altho iPhone is coming to Canada with a nice price tag I think Samsung will be giving Apple a run for their money...check it out, I hear however Samsung is coming out with a new phone that will blow the new iPhone 3G out the water...
http://www.theiphoneblog.com/2008/06/23/samsung-instinct-vs-iphone-2g/
Shotta-KB
06-29-2008, 03:17 AM
Another video review for Instinct vs iPhone 3G
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ocYyKgNtvmE
It is on their website now too:
http://www.rogers.com/web/content/wireless-products/iphone_voice_data_packages
ya know what pisses me off the most about plans with any of the companies now
evenings don't start until 9pm :bang :loco
wtf.. thats not evening.. that ****in night. :AH's
Shotta-KB
07-02-2008, 08:10 PM
:agree These mo-fo Telco's are taking things too far with this 9pm thing to be the new start for evenings..WTF!!
chinsterr
07-02-2008, 08:26 PM
Data plans @ rogers suck .
Time to jump ship and investigate at telus.... going to try and strike a deal with telus retentions under my gf's acct :)
laksman91
07-02-2008, 08:36 PM
But how am i supposed to read my TM3 threads while being stuck in 401 traffic during rush hour? :chuckle
Prices are ridiculous and yet again Canada remains the only country in the developed world with high mobile phone/device fees. Its probably cheaper in developing countries too.
thats pretty true, Rogers runs a monopoly when it comes to their pricing
Shotta-KB
07-03-2008, 01:39 PM
I know Cell/data packages in Jamaica are nowhere close to the expensive costs of Rogers...but what else can you do? The other carriers here are not THAT much cheaper either!
crazycanuck
07-03-2008, 02:50 PM
No competition for the iPhone in the states either; it's just AT&T.
Still, AT&T's plan is still much better than what Rogers is putting out.
People will pay just because they want an iPhone...like cows going to a slaughter...
Since there is real no competition for Rogers, they can charge anything they want. I wish we has the same type of cell phone competition the US has.
Nextmod
07-03-2008, 06:24 PM
I support Apple =)
Shotta-KB
07-03-2008, 08:33 PM
I support Apple =)
I support apple too (Mac user here)..but hate rogers!
dmanrevived
07-07-2008, 06:24 PM
Maybe this will help!
Apple allegedly sanctioning Rogers for iPhone rates (http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/08/07/06/apple_allegedly_sanctioning_rogers_for_iphone_rate s.html)
S.F.W.
07-07-2008, 06:35 PM
that would only help Rogers by creating more demand.
plontoc
07-07-2008, 07:37 PM
:agree These mo-fo Telco's are taking things too far with this 9pm thing to be the new start for evenings..WTF!!
Although I'm not a fan of the late start, let's remember that Rogers will most of the time just follow what others telcos are doing.
Bell started with 9pm and Rogers copied.
Telus had some 17.50 "Insider Plan" and Rogers copied.
It goes on and on...
zedtech
07-07-2008, 07:38 PM
that would only help Rogers by creating more demand.
Sure it'll create demand but it means nothing if you don't have the goods from the supplier :) It'll make people wait even more at ultimately get fed up waiting for Rogers to get their stock from Apple. Rogers will be the most negatively impacted from that. Won't hurt Apple at all, they'll just continue shipping more units to EU and the US that wouldn've been sent to Canada. Good for Apple... I've been an Apple supporter for a while now and I'm glad they're pulling the reigns on Rogers.
Also, from what I hear from the Director of Wireless at my office, Bell is most likely going GSM by end of the year, if anything they'll be fully GSM capable after Rogers exclusivity w/ Apple is complete.
MattC
07-07-2008, 08:37 PM
iphone on a 3 year contract is gonna be around 3000$ for 3 years including phone.
eep.
RedRaptor
07-07-2008, 09:17 PM
You realize that the US and Canada telco market is completely different. The reason why they can offer better data rate plans in the States is because they have a lot of subscribers to offset the cost of maintaining the network.
Let's face it...Canada is a small market...thats why we don't get Mazda3s with the HID, NAVI and etc options. We don't have enough of the sales volume to be offered certain features and better prices.
You take the good with the bad. If some people think living in the States is a good idea over saving $20 a month for a phone plan, then by all means. I'd still rather live in Canada and pay $20 more a month for a phone plan.
howitts_done
07-07-2008, 11:44 PM
For an International Cost Comparison check out:
http://getthefactsonrogersiphone.com/facts.html
Also: A comparison of low-end iPhone data plans from Global TV News in BC (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VtquG_MxbhY).
Also: The Globe and Mail (http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20080702.wriphone03/BNStory/Technology/) compares American and Canadian iPhone rate plans.
Skarbro
07-08-2008, 05:22 AM
I don't know why I even follow this thing. The iPhone sucks. :)
yearoftherat
07-08-2008, 06:50 AM
People will buy it because its a iPhone and its so called cool factor.
I don't know why I even follow this thing. The iPhone sucks. :)
+1
Tizmee24
07-08-2008, 07:23 AM
Data plans @ rogers suck .
Time to jump ship and investigate at telus.... going to try and strike a deal with telus retentions under my gf's acct :)
dont even bother telus are the same, they start evening calls at 9pm until 6am, i think its better to stay in prepaid ...
i dont really use my cell phone, i shouldn't take those contract from telus :bang
yearoftherat
07-08-2008, 10:08 PM
Macworld's editor had some nice things to say about Rogers..lol
MacWorld (http://www.macworld.com/article/134320/2008/07/canada_iphone.html?lsrc=top_3)
And on Electronista.com. Rogers defends its data plans
Elctronista (http://www.electronista.com/articles/08/06/27/rogers.defends.iphone.data/)
crazycanuck
07-09-2008, 11:34 AM
Looks like Rogers is attempting to ease people's fury over the crappy data plan.
For those of you wanting an iPhone, go line up now haha
----------------------------------
Check out this news item on roger:
http://your.rogers.com/investorrelations/news_wireless.asp
Here's the important parts:
Effective July 11, and as a limited time promotional offer for customers
who activate by August 31 on a three year contract, a data-only offering of
6GB of data for $30 per month is being made available that can be added to any
in-market voice plan. For example, with 6GB of data, iPhone 3G users can visit
35,952 web pages, or send and receive 157,286 emails, or watch 6,292 minutes
of YouTube videos each and every month.(xx)
New Canadian iPhone 3G customers will also have the choice to select from
Rogers Wireless' existing voice and smartphone data plans and/or additional
features to best suit their needs, or from Rogers Wireless' value bundled
plans specifically for iPhone 3G. Existing Rogers Wireless customers can keep
their current voice service plan and select a separate data plan to meet their
needs or choose from other plans after checking their individual upgrade
eligibility.
----------------------------------
cwp_sedan
07-09-2008, 11:39 AM
Looks like Rogers is attempting to ease people's fury over the crappy data plan.
For those of you wanting an iPhone, go line up now haha
----------------------------------
Check out this news item on roger:
http://your.rogers.com/investorrelations/news_wireless.asp
Here's the important parts:
Effective July 11, and as a limited time promotional offer for customers
who activate by August 31 on a three year contract, a data-only offering of
6GB of data for $30 per month is being made available that can be added to any
in-market voice plan. For example, with 6GB of data, iPhone 3G users can visit
35,952 web pages, or send and receive 157,286 emails, or watch 6,292 minutes
of YouTube videos each and every month.(xx)
New Canadian iPhone 3G customers will also have the choice to select from
Rogers Wireless' existing voice and smartphone data plans and/or additional
features to best suit their needs, or from Rogers Wireless' value bundled
plans specifically for iPhone 3G. Existing Rogers Wireless customers can keep
their current voice service plan and select a separate data plan to meet their
needs or choose from other plans after checking their individual upgrade
eligibility.
----------------------------------
I just saw this too! Not bad, not great, but not bad.
crazycanuck
07-09-2008, 11:44 AM
My only concern is whether they'll still sell the iPhone for $199 if you get a regular voice plan.
Otherwise, this is just a screw over in disguise.
gabbygenier
07-09-2008, 12:41 PM
I'm going to get one as soon as it's cracked, give my current v1 to my g/f.
The GPS feature was the deal maker for me.
For what I paid in February, the new price point is jokes. How can you not buy one.
By cracked do you mean, u can buy it from anywhere, unlock it so u can use it for rogers. if so i know someone who can do it for you already. let me know
yearoftherat
07-09-2008, 01:03 PM
My only concern is whether they'll still sell the iPhone for $199 if you get a regular voice plan.
Otherwise, this is just a screw over in disguise.
Rogers won't sell a so called smartphone without a data plan...that will never happen.
cwp_sedan
07-09-2008, 01:12 PM
Rogers won't sell a so called smartphone without a data plan...that will never happen.
Actually they probably will, but I don't know all of the details. What I do know is that there are some pretty crazy rates if you accidentally use the net on the phone. So hight you would be better off with a data plan.
Just to let you know that Telus and Bell are going to start charging for incoming text messages now too I believe it would be 15 cents per incoming text, keep that in mind if ur deciding to change
Luxury_Tax
07-09-2008, 02:49 PM
Check out this news item on roger:
http://your.rogers.com/investorrelations/news_wireless.asp
Here's the important parts:
Effective July 11, and as a limited time promotional offer for customers
who activate by August 31 on a three year contract, a data-only offering of
6GB of data for $30 per month is being made available that can be added to any
in-market voice plan. For example, with 6GB of data, iPhone 3G users can visit
35,952 web pages, or send and receive 157,286 emails, or watch 6,292 minutes
of YouTube videos each and every month.(xx)
New Canadian iPhone 3G customers will also have the choice to select from
Rogers Wireless' existing voice and smartphone data plans and/or additional
features to best suit their needs, or from Rogers Wireless' value bundled
plans specifically for iPhone 3G. Existing Rogers Wireless customers can keep
their current voice service plan and select a separate data plan to meet their
needs or choose from other plans after checking their individual upgrade
eligibility.
----------------------------------
Wonder if Fido will offer the same option?
cwp_sedan
07-09-2008, 03:55 PM
Wonder if Fido will offer the same option?
http://money.cnn.com/news/newsfeeds/articles/prnewswire/200807090910PR_NEWS_USPR_____TO330.htm
fido offers the $199 8GB/ $299 16GB (3yr contract) as well. and most importantly you can still keep the plan without extra charge (add $20 you'll get 400MB if i didnt remember wrong).
cyberscorpi0
07-10-2008, 12:32 PM
Rogers iPhone Data Plan below:
http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h149/cyberscorpi0/iPhoneData-1.jpg
Luxury_Tax
07-10-2008, 01:27 PM
http://money.cnn.com/news/newsfeeds/articles/prnewswire/200807090910PR_NEWS_USPR_____TO330.htm
Well there you go.
Thank you kindly
cwp_sedan
07-10-2008, 01:32 PM
Well there you go.
Thank you kindly
:)
gabbygenier
07-11-2008, 03:58 PM
so much for the 30$ plan eh guys. LIESSS haha
chinsterr
07-11-2008, 04:10 PM
so much for the 30$ plan eh guys. LIESSS haha
The 6gb/30$ is still there. It's a promotion till Aug 31. But it appears that it can only be applied to voice plans which are over $30 BEFORE taxes. So...
data = $30
voice = $30
SAF + 911 = $7.50
per month you will be paying AT LEAST $67.50+tax !
YIKES !
Honestly , are you really going to use that much data on the phone? When I'm at school I am in a wifi area , but rarely do I find myself surfing the net or watching vids on my iphone. I doubt having a data plan would really affect me.
Just some food for thought.
cwp_sedan
07-11-2008, 04:11 PM
That $30 data plan applies to all of their smart phones too, not just the iphone. :)
gabbygenier
07-11-2008, 04:24 PM
still adds up to 60 a month, maybe ull get more minutes out of it the 150 though
RedRaptor
07-11-2008, 05:11 PM
Do we every blame BMW for selling their M series at ridicilous prices? Some of the bitching in here is just tiresome. If you can't afford an iphone, stop bitching about it. We all know there is a niche for everything in this world. To some, $70 a month on a phone plan is worth it. Hell I am sure some of us spend $70 a month just on booze. But you don't see everyone protesting and starting a website Barcardi Breezer Ruined.Com.
Quit whining...those who want the iPhone will get it...even if it costs $100/month.
openuser
07-11-2008, 05:15 PM
My average phone bill is $100 for my long distance plan..
Now that $30/6gb plan.. is that good for the duration of the contract?
Or does it have a fine print that states that it changes back to normal $100 rate 1 yr into the contract?
FLIPDADY
07-11-2008, 05:29 PM
Even if you're in Wi-Fi mode doesn't Rogers still get you? My HTC Touch use to connect to the Rogers network everytime I tried to connect even in Wi-Fi mode. After changing a few connection settings it doesn't do that anymore.
gabbygenier
07-11-2008, 05:42 PM
i guess it dosent really matter since my cell phone bill is about 120 a month haha maybe i should switch
yearoftherat
07-11-2008, 07:18 PM
Even if you're in Wi-Fi mode doesn't Rogers still get you? My HTC Touch use to connect to the Rogers network everytime I tried to connect even in Wi-Fi mode. After changing a few connection settings it doesn't do that anymore.
Yeah you have to make sure that you change a few connection settings before you surf the net or Rogers is gonna hit you with a huge bill if you're not on a data plan.
laksman91
07-14-2008, 12:22 AM
I got it, and YOTR you're right. it is COOL. but man the functionality is amazing
gqstunning
07-14-2008, 09:52 PM
I got the phone the day it came out. What I can tell u about the wifi/data change over is that you can see when you are using wifi by a little wifi signal in the upper right hand corner of the screen. If you are using data from ur plan it is either going to have a 3g or an "E" for edge. As for a data plan I think $30 a month for practically unlimited is a good deal. How much do we pay for cable or DSL internet? $40? $50? And we can't use that while we are on the bus or waiting in line. Once you have internet whenever you want it you will never know why you never had it sooner.
JiNuWiNe
07-14-2008, 10:15 PM
Hey guys, didn't know that such thread existed but I'm an iPhone Retail Representative.
Not to be bias but the phone is truely amazing, I've had it for few weeks now and I don't think I would ever use any other mobile device. I'll try my best to answer any questions that you guys might have.
Cheers.
yellow 3
07-15-2008, 01:34 AM
post pics of the white 1:)
Hey guys, didn't know that such thread existed but I'm an iPhone Retail Representative.
Not to be bias but the phone is truely amazing, I've had it for few weeks now and I don't think I would ever use any other mobile device. I'll try my best to answer any questions that you guys might have.
Cheers.
I don't think anyone is denying the abilities of the phone.. thats why everyone wants one.. we just don't want to get raped on a plan
CanadaGTO
07-15-2008, 09:49 AM
I'm really close to pulling the trigger on this. The $30/month for 6GB plan seems fair to me, I just need to figure out a good voice plan to match it too....
Fobio
07-15-2008, 10:02 AM
I'm really close to pulling the trigger on this. The $30/month for 6GB plan seems fair to me, I just need to figure out a good voice plan to match it too....
I got on the $25 customer care/VIP plan a few yrs ago...250min daytime, unlimited evening/wknd starting @ 6PM, and now + $15 for all the voicemail/whocalled stuff but then they threw in a bunch of discounts so my bill before the $30 data plan is like $35 + taxes and misc fees...still ahead of their iPhone plans...
I've also ordered it over the phone to avoid line-ups...my friend who ordered one on Friday received it last night...
CanadaGTO
07-15-2008, 10:12 AM
...250min daytime, unlimited evening/wknd starting @ 6PM, and now + $15 for all the voicemail/whocalled stuff...
That sounds decent.... Trouble is getting it as a new customer.
rktsci
07-15-2008, 10:40 AM
Ordered my white 16bg on friday and UPS was at my door last night....I wasn't expecting to get it until Wednesday...so far its great! I've been using an iPod Touch since they came out last fall so there really wasn't much of a learning curve for me.
Fobio
07-15-2008, 10:43 AM
Ordered my white 16bg on friday and UPS was at my door last night....I wasn't expecting to get it until Wednesday...so far its great! I've been using an iPod Touch since they came out last fall so there really wasn't much of a learning curve for me.
Good catch...how you liking the white? I've been going all black with my toys lately...
They quoted 3 - 5 business days when I ordered, but I know they're faster than that...BB's go out the same time you order and are usually overnight...hopefully I'll get mine tonight...
Xerox
07-15-2008, 10:58 AM
So how much is the 3G phone by itself? (ie. PMALL, etc.)
And it should work straight out of the box without any unlocking right?
rktsci
07-15-2008, 11:01 AM
Good catch...how you liking the white? I've been going all black with my toys lately...
I chose the white over the black because it doesn't show smudges as easily.
Fobio
07-15-2008, 11:02 AM
So how much is the 3G phone by itself? (ie. PMALL, etc.)
And it should work straight out of the box without any unlocking right?
I like how you're thinking but right now you can't grab one without a contract...some dudes are selling them on ebay and craigslist anywhere from $700 to $1000 last I checked...
And yes, there are hardware unlock hacks released today, but all iPhones come locked to your carrier now...
06Touring3
07-15-2008, 11:13 AM
My data package with Telus is $15/mo for unlimited Data(Downloading included)/Personal E-mail/GPS/Instant Msging
i also pay $10 for unltd text msging (also have free evenings and weekends after 6pm and 350 daytime)
$65/mo after tax for my bill
Telus ftw!!
My data package with Telus is $15/mo for unlimited Data(Downloading included)/Personal E-mail/GPS/Instant Msging
i also pay $10 for unltd text msging (also have free evenings and weekends after 6pm and 350 daytime)
$65/mo after tax for my bill
Telus ftw!!
Is that a personal plan? (which phone)
06Touring3
07-15-2008, 11:47 AM
i have a Pearl 8130
They came out with that $15/mo back when Bell had the $7 unltd e-mail plan on the Touch and Pearl only....
The thing is Telus ADVERTISED it was $15/mo for unltd personal e-mail and instant msging...what they DIDN'T tell you (unless you asked as was my case) was that you get unltd GPS/Web/IM/E-Mail....sneaky...and NOW to get that you have to pay $30/mo from what I have read (haven't investigated very hard)
my voice plan is a corporate package through my work though
So I walked into a roger's store today and I'm wondering if I should do it or not. iPhone is exactly what I like. Gimicks and a good network. The GPS really catches my eye. I'm wondering if the iPhone will have a video out accessory so I can hook it up to the screen in my car.
But my main question is, for $70 a month is this thing worth it? The $30 data plan is nice, and the MY5 works fine for me, but its pricey. $70 a month seems a little high and I'm REALLY not liking the fact that I'd have to setup with a 3 year contract. That just not right.
silvermist99
07-15-2008, 05:38 PM
I got on the $25 customer care/VIP plan a few yrs ago...250min daytime, unlimited evening/wknd starting @ 6PM, and now + $15 for all the voicemail/whocalled stuff but then they threw in a bunch of discounts so my bill before the $30 data plan is like $35 + taxes and misc fees...still ahead of their iPhone plans...
I've also ordered it over the phone to avoid line-ups...my friend who ordered one on Friday received it last night...
you should try & call rogers retention. Say you are thinking about leaving them unless they have something better.
I scored my mom your plan, + rogers to rogers, 125tx, caller id, vm all for $20/month + saf/911 & tax.
My data package with Telus is $15/mo for unlimited Data(Downloading included)/Personal E-mail/GPS/Instant Msging
i also pay $10 for unltd text msging (also have free evenings and weekends after 6pm and 350 daytime)
$65/mo after tax for my bill
Telus ftw!!
GO TELUS :chuckle HTC diamond is coming soon I hope
yearoftherat
07-15-2008, 05:48 PM
So I walked into a roger's store today and I'm wondering if I should do it or not. iPhone is exactly what I like. Gimicks and a good network. The GPS really catches my eye. I'm wondering if the iPhone will have a video out accessory so I can hook it up to the screen in my car.
But my main question is, for $70 a month is this thing worth it? The $30 data plan is nice, and the MY5 works fine for me, but its pricey. $70 a month seems a little high and I'm REALLY not liking the fact that I'd have to setup with a 3 year contract. That just not right.
I think you just convinced yourself by stating the fact the $70 seems a bit high...look at the long term 36 X 70 = 2100 plus change and thats before taxes and such..
Fobio
07-15-2008, 06:01 PM
you should try & call rogers retention. Say you are thinking about leaving them unless they have something better.
Everytime I call Rogers, I'm "cancelling" something...hehehe...but with the iPhone thing, they weren't budging on anything eventho I am on the highest retention/upgrade tier...I was planning on getting some back when I call to "cancel" my cable in a few months...
Currently, on any given month, I'm getting about $30 in VIP discounts overall, so you know I've tried to "cancel" everything already...lol...
silvermist99
07-15-2008, 06:19 PM
So I walked into a roger's store today and I'm wondering if I should do it or not. iPhone is exactly what I like. Gimicks and a good network. The GPS really catches my eye. I'm wondering if the iPhone will have a video out accessory so I can hook it up to the screen in my car.
But my main question is, for $70 a month is this thing worth it? The $30 data plan is nice, and the MY5 works fine for me, but its pricey. $70 a month seems a little high and I'm REALLY not liking the fact that I'd have to setup with a 3 year contract. That just not right.
check out the HTC diamond,
confirmed, it'll be coming to TELUS in a few weeks
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f_vKsxOT3Lw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CoaXA9un7YE
currently TELUS data plans are $15 for unlimited emails and IM. $30 for unlimited everything. there will probably be more plan in a few weeks when diamond launches. TELUS had a EPP plan for $17.xx a month that includes 150mins, unlimited evenings/nights + caller ID. Not sure if this can be added on to the data plan yet but if it can then its a pretty good deal.
I'm on telus, and I really hate them. They've screwed me over the past few months with charges and poor customer service. I've been with them for 6 years and I've never been happy with their plans or reception.
chinsterr
07-15-2008, 06:49 PM
I called rogers retentions and was offered this..
300 Daytime minutes
Eve/Weekends from 6
Call ID/VM/125 Text
100 Long D minutes
6GB data per month
for $45/month before SAF/911/taxes.
It's still a little pricey for me considering I had to drop my R2R credit inorder to get the new data plan for $20/month
cwp_sedan
07-15-2008, 09:08 PM
I called rogers retentions and was offered this..
300 Daytime minutes
Eve/Weekends from 6
Call ID/VM/125 Text
100 Long D minutes
6GB data per month
for $45/month before SAF/911/taxes.
It's still a little pricey for me considering I had to drop my R2R credit inorder to get the new data plan for $20/month
Damn hook me up with that price Andrew!!!
yearoftherat
07-15-2008, 09:16 PM
Is Andrew on a corp plan?
chinsterr
07-15-2008, 10:07 PM
Damn hook me up with that price Andrew!!!
Is Andrew on a corp plan?
I am on a retentions plan, and have been a rogers customer for 8 years. Back when I was in high school my bills were ridiculous ! Too many girls calling :chuckle
Right now I'm paying 25+SAF+911 for
300 Daytime minutes
Eve/Weekends start 6pm
call id/ vm/ 125 text
R2R
100 Long D minutes
I could get the data plan for 6gb $25/month on top of my plan, but I wanted it cheaper. They told me if I lost the R2R it would be $20/month for the data. On top of that, my contract is ending soon so they really want to lock me in for the long haul.
I don't know what to do . I really want to be able to use all the functions on my iphone, but is the extra $20 a month really worth it ? Wifi hot spots are supposed to be popping up all over the place soon, and Waterloo (where I go to school) pretty much has wifi everywhere on campus.
The CSR also told me that this data plan could be added to my "grey" market Iphone, but I would be running EDGE all the time .... which is a little too slow for my liking.
You guys need to call retentions !!! Telus has some really good deals on right now , and you can use that as leverage to negotiate a new plan.
I should call Telus and tell them to get their act together, maybe they'll make me an offer ;p
yearoftherat
07-15-2008, 10:16 PM
My brother has a "grey" market phone which can be updated to the latest firmware. by using jailbreaker he will have a phone that can used to its full potential. From what I understand there is a firmware version(can;t remember which one) that can be updated BUT once done you can not jailbreak it and use it fully.
I'm on a corp plan thru work and unlikely will be able to upgrade.
cwp_sedan
07-15-2008, 10:16 PM
I am on a retentions plan, and have been a rogers customer for 8 years. Back when I was in high school my bills were ridiculous ! Too many girls calling :chuckle
Right now I'm paying 25+SAF+911 for
300 Daytime minutes
Eve/Weekends start 6pm
call id/ vm/ 125 text
R2R
100 Long D minutes
I could get the data plan for 6gb $25/month on top of my plan, but I wanted it cheaper. They told me if I lost the R2R it would be $20/month for the data. On top of that, my contract is ending soon so they really want to lock me in for the long haul.
I don't know what to do . I really want to be able to use all the functions on my iphone, but is the extra $20 a month really worth it ? Wifi hot spots are supposed to be popping up all over the place soon, and Waterloo (where I go to school) pretty much has wifi everywhere on campus.
The CSR also told me that this data plan could be added to my "grey" market Iphone, but I would be running EDGE all the time .... which is a little too slow for my liking.
You guys need to call retentions !!! Telus has some really good deals on right now , and you can use that as leverage to negotiate a new plan.
I'm currently paying $45 for less stuff than you mentioned even without the data plan. I've been with Rogers for about 5 years now but I also have cable and internet with them.
My 3 year plan is up in Dec so maybe I should call. Any suggestions with how to get them to give me a good plan? Should I just tell them what I would need/want to get me to stay?
I don't need much more than I have now plus the data plan. I would be willing to pay $50-60 even, but no more than that.
yearoftherat
07-15-2008, 10:20 PM
No matter which way you look at it, Roger is going to own you. If you want the phone, you'll get it..
Paying lets say $75/ month for 36 months = 2700 before SAF, taxes and such is just crazy
cwp_sedan
07-15-2008, 10:22 PM
No matter which way you look at it, Roger is going to own you. If you want the phone, you'll get it..
Paying lets say $75/ month for 36 months = 2700 before SAF, taxes and such is just crazy
I'm definitely not paying anything over $60/mth. I've paid $45-50/mth for the last 3 years so if it's around there or just a little more I will be fine with that.
Fobio
07-15-2008, 10:38 PM
I'm definitely not paying anything over $60/mth. I've paid $45-50/mth for the last 3 years so if it's around there or just a little more I will be fine with that.
This sounds really shitty, but from experience, when you call "to cancel my services" they'll transfer you to a customer care specialist/retention who'll be able to negotiate all your bills together. Otherwise, if you deal with the regular CSR, you'll be stuck in call centre hell...
It's stupid that Rogers operate this way, but that the only way I've been able to get things done right and proper with them...
06Touring3
07-16-2008, 09:36 AM
I'm definitely not paying anything over $60/mth. I've paid $45-50/mth for the last 3 years so if it's around there or just a little more I will be fine with that.
"Cancel" and note you are switching to Telus...then ask what they can do to keep you....
DumpInfo
07-16-2008, 10:13 AM
Yup the retention lines are always the best approach to see what they can work out for you or even offer you compared to other phone providers.
Unless you switch jobs and apply at Rogers you'll be on a free data plan :)
Shotta-KB
07-23-2008, 08:06 PM
Government have opened up the market for 5 new big Telco company's to come into the Canadian market...Verizon and Sprint perhaps will be included which will definetly force them to revise their pricing plans and slash those ludacris charges...system access fee WTF is that? I pay for a plan that is what you should use to maintain the freaking network/equipment!!
I felt to vent a bit guys...Adios amigos!
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