Camber wear with aftermarket springs

[yearoftherat]

I'm looking at lowering my car and would like some feed back.
A poll to see who is running aftermarket Eibach Prokits and who has noticed camber wear on their tires.
If you don't have camber wear is it because you have a camber kit installed? Or is it because you recently installed the kit and have'nt noticed any wear yet.
Also if you can list what springs you are running(Eibachs, MS, Cobbs,Htecs, etc), much appreciated

[sauga_kid]

Running Eibach Pro-kits and am noticing camber even following alignment

[Kevin@nextmod]

You'll also have to factor in that stock car with stock rims do get camber wear too because our stock car already have a little bit of camber.

Also Are u only asking for prokits since you're thinking of going with prokits? tein springs drop lower and they sag more meaning they will go lower causing more camber/wear.

[S.F.W.]

I was running pro kits on stock rims, and had really bad camber wear, even after alignment. I still have the tires to back it up.

[sauga_kid]

Also Are u only asking for prokits since you're thinking of going with prokits?


A poll to see who is running aftermarket Springs be it Eibachs, Cobbs,H-tecs,etc and who has noticed camber wear on their tires.

I think he's looking for all makes.

[yearoftherat]

OP fixed..

[chinsterr]

no camber wear with h-techs

[KenYork]

I'm running Stock MS3 springs on my sedan with minor camber wear.

[sp3GT]

I'm running Stock MS3 springs on my sedan with minor camber wear.

I thought MS3 springs raised a sedan?

[bubba1983]

chewed thru a set of tires in 2-3 seasons due to camber wear on pro kits after alignment..what most don't realize, the rear camber in our car is non adjustable...it does not have a proper adjusting bolt/nut...

im on coilovers now, with adjustable camber links....so far so good *knock on wood*

[S.F.W.]

what most don't realize, the rear camber in our car is non adjustable...it does not have a proper adjusting bolt/nut...


yep, no rear camber kit, not adjustable.

[Xerox]

So weird. I've seen a lot of threads where people say that the ProKits is a mild drop and therefore don't need camber kits and don't have any issues with camber wear. So based on this I went with ProKits (they're in my trunk right now. I will get it installed this Friday :bana2).

I just did a quick search and found this thread Prokit Users (http://torontomazda3.ca/forum/showthread.php?t=23590&highlight=prokit+camber) which (following the trend of this poll) shows some who have no issues and others who experience bad camber wear. So I suspect this poll to be split 50/50 as well. I'm keep my fingers crossed and hope I don't have camber wear but I definitely won't be surprised if I do.

[mEtH]

No matter what drop you are on you have to factor in that it will increase rear camber wear. With that said, instead of rotating tires at 8k try rotating every 6k to limit the amount of wear on the inner shoulder of the tires. The reason people with Teins wont see it as much is because the rear does not drop as much as the front. People on the S-techs will notice it more then those on the H-techs. Overall though the Teins have a raked setup with a mild drop in the rear.

I suggest a camber kit to anyone who drops their car, but you will lose some bite into the corners because that is what camber is for. Also, for all those installing a camber kit, do realize that this will increase the wheel gap for the rear wheels. The only real way to avoid the raked look is to have coilovers because well you can just keep dropping it and adjusting the camber until you get the right settings you want.

[yearoftherat]

I was also looking at the Mazdaspeed Spring/camber kit and correct me if I'm wrong but isn't the Mazdaspeed camber kit NOT adjustable? Is it because the drop is mild that adjustability is not an issue?
or the price of the prokits and adjustable camber kit thru one of our sponsors, I'd consider doing the Mazdaspeed setup.

[Kevin@nextmod]

camber kit adjustability has no effect to how low the springs drop. Its the kit itself

[condor888000]

On Pro-Kit for a bit now, haven't had enough time for camber wear to become noticeable. However I am expecting it to rear it's ugly head sooner or later. Max spec for rear camber was -2.3, I have one at -2.2 and the other at -2.4. Everything else is within spec, but that rear camber is worrying me.

[condor888000]

I was also looking at the Mazdaspeed Spring/camber kit and correct me if I'm wrong but isn't the Mazdaspeed camber kit NOT adjustable? Is it because the drop is mild that adjustability is not an issue?
or the price of the prokits and adjustable camber kit thru one of our sponsors, I'd consider doing the Mazdaspeed setup.

Correct, the Mazdaspeed camber kit is matched up to the drop of the springs in order to bring the camber back into spec. This is done without giving the end user adjustable camber links.

[yearoftherat]

Correct, the Mazdaspeed camber kit is matched up to the drop of the springs in order to bring the camber back into spec. This is done without giving the end user adjustable camber links.
So the Mazdaspeed camber kit assumes that with their kit you won't have to adjust the camber whatso ever?

[condor888000]

Basically they new links are matched to the spring height of the Mazdaspeed springs. This is the same as the stock links being matched to the stock springs. When both Mazdaspeed springs and linke are installed your camber will be within spec, therefore there would be no need to adjust the links.

Clear as mud?

[yearoftherat]

Ok that makes sense now...

[Marsh]

Gentlemen, camber wear is generally very minor. Toe has much more to do with tire wear. I've run over 2.5 degrees negative camber of my old Prelude autoslalom car for daily driving and wore the tires dead even shoulder to shoulder.

The problem is usually more to do with driving style. If you peal away from stops all the time and brake hard then you're going to experience camber wear. If you are gentle away from stops and on the brakes, but actually take on ramps like you've got a pair then you'll experience even tire wear with negative camber.

[Xerox]

The problem is usually more to do with driving style. If you peal away from stops all the time and brake hard then you're going to experience camber wear. If you are gentle away from stops and on the brakes, but actually take on ramps like you've got a pair then you'll experience even tire wear with negative camber.

So basically take it easy when going straight but drive hard through the corners? Hmmm...crazy but might work.

[Flagrum_3]

I'm on Pro-kits now for over 50k-No camber kit and No camber wear at all, just got new tires, RSA's lasted 60+ k's and had even wear across the tread.

I'm curious how anyone who says that they put on the pro-kits, (had a proper alignment) are sill getting camber wear?

If your camber is out enough to wear the tires it would have shown up during the alignment process, meaning your specs would have shown outside the tolerances, which at that point you should have been told you need kits!?

Chris in your case, why not just wait, save up and get a quality Coil-over set next spring? ....you've waited this long! and coil overs are the best :)


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[yearoftherat]

Chris in your case, why not just wait, save up and get a quality Coil-over set next spring? ....you've waited this long! and coil overs are the best :)


holy fark !! You think I'm rolling in cash or won a lottery..

[Flagrum_3]

holy fark !! You think I'm rolling in cash or won a lottery..


Well yeah!!, aren't all you hospital folk rolling in money? :chuckle

...and it was just a suggestion!


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[S.F.W.]

I'm curious how anyone who says that they put on the pro-kits, (had a proper alignment) are sill getting camber wear?

If your camber is out enough to wear the tires it would have shown up during the alignment process, meaning your specs would have shown outside the tolerances, which at that point you should have been told you need kits!?

when I had an alignment done about a month after putting on the pro kits, I was told the rear was out of spec, and could not be put back in spec iwthout a camber kit.
Did you check your recently removed tires for camber wear?

[Flagrum_3]

when I had an alignment done about a month after putting on the pro kits, I was told the rear was out of spec, and could not be put back in spec iwthout a camber kit.
Did you check your recently removed tires for camber wear?

Yes I did, that's why I mentioned them!! Straight even wear across the tread, as I also mentioned in my earlier post.



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