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cyberscorpi0
07-31-2008, 06:34 PM
Greyhound Tragedy Part 1:
http://i.ytimg.com/vi/obc8hL1eqRA/default.jpg (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=obc8hL1eqRA)


Greyhound Tragedy Part 2:
http://i.ytimg.com/vi/rqbR58QMFAY/default.jpg (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rqbR58QMFAY)


Greyhound Tragedy Part 3:
http://images.ctv.ca/archives/CTVNews/img2/20080731/160_cp_greyhound_stabbing_0.jpg (http://www.brightcove.tv/title.jsp?title=1703403281&channel=1465426594)

x_o_k_x
07-31-2008, 06:41 PM
The interview with one of the guys is pretty radiculous. Apparantly a trucker stopped next to the bus and went to help out with a huge bar or something.

Why would someone so calm become a killer and stub him and cut his head off, and 1 thing that bothers me, is he didnt even care in the world that other passanger seen the whole thing and getting out of the bus.. Usually he would atleast try to kill someone else right? but he would just keep stabbing him while other get of the bus.. Makes me think he was on some drugs..and started hallucinating and going crazy..

Fobio
07-31-2008, 06:42 PM
This ish is fuxked up....

intensity
07-31-2008, 06:50 PM
omg thats ****ed up.

3GFX
07-31-2008, 06:54 PM
Heard about this, can't watch the vids at work but that's trully screwed up :(

SilentJay
07-31-2008, 07:00 PM
I've read an even more graphic news-story about this on google news. Goes on to recount how the guy tried to stab the 3 who went back onto the bus to check for survivors, then when they barricaded him in, he brought the victim's head to the window and dropped it onto the floor in front of them.


Seriously f-ed up.

yearoftherat
07-31-2008, 07:02 PM
And to think Manitoba is my home province.....friendly manitoba...:loco

DumpInfo
07-31-2008, 07:16 PM
:whoa that's messed up!

tweak_s
07-31-2008, 07:18 PM
What the hell is up with people these days...

M3Nick
07-31-2008, 07:43 PM
I saw this earlier today too... WTF, poor guy just minding his own business... The GF is afraid to take the bus now, too :( lol

Thunder 3
08-01-2008, 12:21 PM
And to think Manitoba is my home province.....friendly manitoba...:loco

I'm supposed to move home for a while and I don't even want to now! This and a truck got stolen from my aunt and uncle's house...crime is crazy there :loco

First thing I could think of this morning when I woke up was what happened...needless to say I couldn't fall back asleep!

Fobio
08-01-2008, 12:32 PM
when I was younger, I knew other kids (girls too) who'd take the GH all over the dang country...like from TO to Fort McMurray in Alberta or Whistler, BC...tho we all knew that creeps and weirdos frequent the GH's, it' never much of a concern for a young guy/gal to travel cheaply across the country...

This is the most f'd up random act of violence I've heard of in a long time...this is inline but worse than ppl pushing ppl off the subway platforms...

06Touring3
08-01-2008, 12:42 PM
what.....the......****.........

i am LITERALLY in shock.....

wtom
08-01-2008, 12:53 PM
The way the articles are describing the incident, the suspect, one Vince Weiguang Li sounds like he has a mental problem (not the simple "he's just ****ed in the head" kind), medical problem if you will.

I'm NOT defending him for what he did.

SpeedBaby
08-01-2008, 10:51 PM
this whole case becomes even scarier if the guy who did this does in fact suffer from psychophrenia or other mental disorder of any sort. it this turns out to be true and it will be decided that he's not fit to stand trial, he'll go through an average of 1-2 years of psychiatric evaluations and/or treatments, after which he has very good chances to be released. just like that, simply because in this country if you kill somebody not because you deliberately intended to, but because the voices in your head said so, you shouldn't be locked up. THIS is the most ****ed up part.

kid_icarus
08-02-2008, 12:57 AM
this whole case becomes even scarier if the guy who did this does in fact suffer from psychophrenia or other mental disorder of any sort. it this turns out to be true and it will be decided that he's not fit to stand trial, he'll go through an average of 1-2 years of psychiatric evaluations and/or treatments, after which he has very good chances to be released. just like that, simply because in this country if you kill somebody not because you deliberately intended to, but because the voices in your head said so, you shouldn't be locked up. THIS is the most ****ed up part.

+1

not a big fan of the 'correctional' system in this country...
it's too lenient in terms of initial sentencing
and it's too lenient in its rehabilitation processes...
and finally it does a poor job of monitoring the ppl it releases back onto the streets...

honestly if living in prison is better than living on the streets... that's when u know things are effed up...

SilentJay
08-02-2008, 08:45 AM
I'd think there might be a bit more than just voices in his head if he packs that kind of hardware wherever he goes...

stormin84
08-02-2008, 09:10 AM
Cops should have shot the killer instead of arresting him he shouldn't live for doing something like that

Dan Da Man
08-02-2008, 10:57 AM
+1

not a big fan of the 'correctional' system in this country...
it's too lenient in terms of initial sentencing
and it's too lenient in its rehabilitation processes...
and finally it does a poor job of monitoring the ppl it releases back onto the streets...

honestly if living in prison is better than living on the streets... that's when u know things are effed up...


this whole case becomes even scarier if the guy who did this does in fact suffer from psychophrenia or other mental disorder of any sort. it this turns out to be true and it will be decided that he's not fit to stand trial, he'll go through an average of 1-2 years of psychiatric evaluations and/or treatments, after which he has very good chances to be released. just like that, simply because in this country if you kill somebody not because you deliberately intended to, but because the voices in your head said so, you shouldn't be locked up. THIS is the most ****ed up part.


Even if your not crazy and you attempt to murder someone you'l still only get 1-2 years in canada. Canada is all about the rehabilitation, which is obviosly working because the same douchebags getting off on major crimes commit the same ones right after they get out. the 2nd 3rd 4th and 5th chances we give people dont work.

Remember the two random people murdered in the brampton plaza 2 months back, then the killer tried to take his own life. He apparently had a rap sheet 2 pages long for violent crimes, wtf was he doing on the streets.

Go Canada Go!

We wont see a change until unfortunately a member of parliament or the justice systems family member is killed by a gun, brutally raped or murdered by a wack job, when it hits them at home is when changes happen.

PlatMS6
08-02-2008, 01:24 PM
RELAXXX...

People go nuts all the time, stuff like this happens. Its just the decapatation that has people weirded out to the core. You often hear of victims being stabbed 20-30-100 times and it doesn't get as much attention. If the guy is out of it, then yes a life-long mental institution rather then jail is probably better.

A mental instability/insanity/whatever you wanna call it, that results in a murder is a lot less "offensive" then some punk that kills bystanders in cold blood while trying to off some other wannabe gangster just because he thinks he's a little thug.

PlatMS6
08-03-2008, 05:04 PM
Here's another but just a bit further away... like I said, happens often. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/7539944.stm

b3GS
08-05-2008, 09:25 AM
I'd think there might be a bit more than just voices in his head if he packs that kind of hardware wherever he goes...

my thought too

LockOut
08-05-2008, 09:53 AM
Here's another but just a bit further away... like I said, happens often. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/7539944.stm

Just because it happens from time to time (OFTEN may be a bit of an exaggeration...) doesn't make it any less disturbing or disgusting...

crazycanuck
08-05-2008, 10:39 AM
Just decapitation? Don't think so.

The police radio chitter that leaked out reported he cut the victim open and started cannibalizing him.



RELAXXX...

People go nuts all the time, stuff like this happens. Its just the decapatation that has people weirded out to the core. You often hear of victims being stabbed 20-30-100 times and it doesn't get as much attention. If the guy is out of it, then yes a life-long mental institution rather then jail is probably better.

A mental instability/insanity/whatever you wanna call it, that results in a murder is a lot less "offensive" then some punk that kills bystanders in cold blood while trying to off some other wannabe gangster just because he thinks he's a little thug.

MattC
08-05-2008, 10:49 AM
definately makes me happy i dont take public transit, people can't randomly stab you in your car, (or atleast with the same ease)

the question I have been asking, is when they got the crowbars, etc, why noone went back in and tried to beat the guy senseless with itand stop him before he decapitated the guy... Like I know most people are into self preservation, but like c'mon, people have to think, if they were the ones getting stabbed randomly, wouldn't you want some help?

i saw the guy, he wasn't as big as the witnesses said he was.

Also, I know its impossible to tell how youd react till you are in that situation, but I mean I would want to seriously try to help that kid, because in the end it could have been you who was being randomly attacked.

It makes you ask yourself, when it came down to it, could you help a stranger who is being attacked? Or would you simply watch them die?

crazycanuck
08-05-2008, 10:58 AM
You have to consider the interior of a bus.

It's very low clearance and very narrow; enough to squeeze one person by.

So even if they had 3 guys, it'd still be one and one in the bus. So it's a matter of : crowbar vs. insane guy with machete.


definately makes me happy i dont take public transit, people can't randomly stab you in your car, (or atleast with the same ease)

the question I have been asking, is when they got the crowbars, etc, why noone went back in and tried to beat the guy senseless with itand stop him before he decapitated the guy... Like I know most people are into self preservation, but like c'mon, people have to think, if they were the ones getting stabbed randomly, wouldn't you want some help?

i saw the guy, he wasn't as big as the witnesses said he was.

Also, I know its impossible to tell how youd react till you are in that situation, but I mean I would want to seriously try to help that kid, because in the end it could have been you who was being randomly attacked.

It makes you ask yourself, when it came down to it, could you help a stranger who is being attacked? Or would you simply watch them die?

MattC
08-05-2008, 11:14 AM
yeah, but according to reports and witnesses, he tried to come outside, and they locked him in the bus with the poor kid, and so he went back to cut his head off.

obivously you cant blame the people for trying to keep him away from them, it's just one of those things that could happen anywhere at any time, so its worth some thought, so you dont get blinded like a deer in the headlights when something does happen

mleblond
08-05-2008, 11:40 AM
if this would of been in the states someone would of had a gun and killed this crazy mofo on the spot. Too bad he is still alive, he will be a menace to society for the rest of his life.

Seriously how many more victims could there have been if he got outside?

Fobio
08-05-2008, 11:47 AM
Just decapitation? Don't think so.

The police radio chitter that leaked out reported he cut the victim open and started cannibalizing him.

where the f*** did you hear about this?!

don't mean to add drama/fuel to the fire, but this is so reminiscent of those violent movie scenes where a guy is simply possessed and does something out of pure evil...

watch them blame it on "Batman/Joker/movie" or some sort of movie violence...

crazycanuck
08-05-2008, 11:49 AM
http://www.abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory?id=5501170

Oh yea, it's happening.


where the f*** did you hear about this?!

don't mean to add drama/fuel to the fire, but this is so reminiscent of those violent movie scenes where a guy is simply possessed and does something out of pure evil...

watch them blame it on "Batman/Joker/movie" or some sort of movie violence...

Fobio
08-05-2008, 12:41 PM
I have a feeling GH is going to suffer LARGE for this unfortunate incident:

http://www.cbc.ca/consumer/story/2008/08/05/greyhound-rage-ad.html

PlatMS6
08-05-2008, 04:04 PM
He's gonna end up in a mental institution, no question about it. Cannibalism isn't enough to warrant an insanity plea. But when it happens out of the blue especially after first hacking up the individual on a bus full of passengers, its a different beast alltogether. I don't think anyone will label him as "mentally fit".

x_o_k_x
08-06-2008, 01:21 PM
Apparantly he was whispiring "Please kill me" in the court

06Touring3
08-06-2008, 01:45 PM
he'll go to jail if he has no history of mental illness and if he passes the psych evaluation he was ordered to take

Fobio
08-06-2008, 02:17 PM
the scary part is if he ACTUALLY passes the psych evaluation...

LockOut
08-06-2008, 02:22 PM
I just read that he had at least one stint in a mental institution prior to the incident. I don't really think that he will pass the eval..

x_o_k_x
08-06-2008, 03:14 PM
He worked at Mcdonalds too:chuckle

ptwonline
08-06-2008, 03:28 PM
I have a feeling GH is going to suffer LARGE for this unfortunate incident:

http://www.cbc.ca/consumer/story/2008/08/05/greyhound-rage-ad.html

You know what's weird? I first saw one of those GH "bus rage" ads a couple of weeks ago, and the first thing I thought to myself is "That is an ad campaign that could backfire big time. Who thought of that anyway?" Tragically, it came true.

Something else weird: apparently this guy got onto the bus in my original hometown (Brandon, Manitoba) and is near my own age, and so at first I thought it might be someone I knew! It wasn't though.

When I first came to Toronto I decided to save my parents some money and took a GH bus from Winnipeg to Toronto. Saved money, but man oh man it was NOT worth it. By the end I was ready to go crazy too. I swear the guy who sat next to me for the last 6 hours or so was about 6'3, very wide (but not fat), and looked like he could play Mark Messier in a movie. And I also discovered that a baby can indeed cry all night long and stink up an entire bus.

Anyway, this guy is a recent immigrant, and it looks like he didn't exactly have great jobs. Maybe being so far from home and struggling was just too much foir him, and he snapped.

06Touring3
08-06-2008, 03:36 PM
i guess WalMart is too stressful a job

b3GS
08-07-2008, 09:57 AM
the scary part is if he ACTUALLY passes the psych evaluation...

this would be a good thing, so he ends up in Jail for life

if not, he'll end up back on the streets in a couple years
:loco