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mit-gee-mui
08-18-2008, 03:58 PM
Those who know me know that I am not one to type up rants, but I guess that this will the a nice follow-up to the one that I made a while back (See here http://www.torontomazda3.ca/forum/showthread.php?t=25421 ) I apologize in advance for this post. If you get offended easily, you may find it better if you just skip this thread and proceed to read another one.










Once again, I warn you all. I am majorly pissed right now. :flaming Get out now while you still can.

Story goes like this:

So I’m at the TD bank at Sandalwood/Hurontario, depositing cheques during my break. I get back to my car, and as I’m getting the car started and getting ready to leave, a car with an old black couple parks beside me, on the passenger side. Out of courtesy, I wait for the lady to get out before I get out of my spot. As she is climbing i.e. squeezing out of her car (I was parked perfectly in the centre of the lines in my spot), I hear a noise on my car. I turn off my car and get out and ask her if she hit my car. She instantly says no and tells me that I have a major problem. I get back into my car and wait for her to walk towards the bank and then I get out to look at the side of my passenger door. There is a ding there that wasn’t there before. (Take note: I just washed and waxed my car yesterday, so I know the location of all the dents and dings on that car.) I get back into my car, grab my phone and take a picture of the couple's car’s license plate. As I do this, the woman somehow turns around on her way into the bank and starts walking back, yelling at me with the whole “What are you doing. I didn’t touch your car.” Bla Bla Bla. The man who was waiting in the car steps out and now decides to speak. The entire time, they are completely denying that they hit my car or touched it or anything. I tell them to open the door all the way and show me that I’m wrong i.e. that the door can’t even reach mine, so I was making everything up. I tell them that if they can prove me wrong, I will apologize for wasting their time and we'll leave it at that. They flat out REFUSE to do it. At this point, they copy down my license plate on a sheet of paper because I took a picture of theirs. Finally, after saying the same thing over and over again i.e. they didn't touch my car, they decide to open their door to show me, but they only open the thing half way and are like “See. There is no way the door can touch your car. You are making this up.” I try to walk over to show them they are a bunch of liars, and they both stand infront of me so that I can’t get anywhere near their car. Those of you who know me know that I obviously can't do anything about this. Then, the guy comes up to my door with his keys in his hand and starts rubbing the ding on my car, and I could just hear the keys hitting my door, and I told him that his keys were hitting my car, and he just started laughing at me like I was insane. At this point, a bunch of people are watching, and one guy comes up and starts trying to be the "hero" and telling me that it’s nothing and that the cops won’t do anything if I call them, that they’ll laugh at me and all that, and I know that would be the case, but all I wanted was for them to admit that they were wrong and apologize.

I’m not trying to be racist/age-ist/etc-ist or anything, but WTF is wrong with people these days. Seriously. My ex-to-be-in-laws were black. I know all about them and their ways of thinking, but that has nothing to do with it. I realize that old people, regardless of their race, are always stubborn in their ways, but I do also realize that older black people are also incredibly ignorant as well. I was told this from a black guy himself. At one point, they started telling me that I probably go around parking lots pretending people hit my car so that I could collect insurance money from them so that I can get a new car. (Those of you who know me know that I am NOT like this at all. I have never gotten so mad at people that I haven’t known before. Plus, I am NOT one to disturb the peace at all.) They started telling me that I’m the reason why their tax dollars are so high and that I shouldn’t be driving and saying all this stuff that had nothing to do with the fact that there is now an extra ding on my door that wasn’t there earlier and there is no way to explain it, because God forbid, they won’t admit that they were at fault. Then they proceeded to tell me that they have had people hit their car all the time as they were growing up and they didn’t care, and nor should I. Well, you and I, as car fanatics, DO get upset at stuff like this. Our cars are our spouses. We treat them with outmost respect and hope that others will do the same.

I then asked them if they had children/grandchildren. I asked them if they would get upset if I hit one of them and just walked away and wouldn’t admit to it. They started bringing up the thing about the tax dollars. Way to answer a question there.

Then they started saying that people get dents and stuff all the time by putting their cars through the car wash. I told them that my car only gets handwashed by me and that I don’t put it through the wash because of that reason. Then they start bringing up all this other irrelevant stuff to the mix, still refusing to admit that they hit my car, nor apologizing. Finally, I just got fed up, as I was tired of wasting my time talking to an old couple and some other guy that just happened to be there, as they will never understand the value of other peoples’ property.

Anyways, here is the license plate of the car: (I am NOT one to post these things, but right now, I’m so mad. It probably won’t do anything, but here it goes anyway.)
http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i274/belleTM3s_pics/Image000-1.jpg

Here are pictures of the ding on my car. I know it’s very small and minor, but as a car fanatic, things like this piss me off, no matter how big or small they are. Sorry for the quality. I took them with my camera phone.
http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i274/belleTM3s_pics/Image001-2.jpg
http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i274/belleTM3s_pics/Image002-2.jpg

Just because I look so young, they thought that “because they were older”, that I would “respect them and let it go”. Age had nothing to do with this. (6 years ago, some guy hit my old car because it was raining heavily and he was tailgating me. I was young and didn’t know better. Even though they left a huge dent and gash on my back bumper, I let them go without taking down any information. I know better now.) People always think that just because I look so young, I will let things slide, when that is definitely not the case.

Now, I realize that calling the cops would do nothing, but at the same time, what would you guys do? I am so mad, yet I know that people like this exist everywhere. Cars are nothing to most people, and as a group that chose our vehicles to be our hobby, many times we get ridiculed and stuff.

I also realize that this rant will probably make you guys want the last 5 mins or so of your life back. Unfortunately, I can't give that back to you, but what you can learn from this post is that when possible, be very watchful of people in parking lots. When possible, park so that stuff like this won't happen to you. (Yes, I know stuff like this happens all the time.) If something like this should happen, don't bother asking for an apology or for the person/s to admit to anything. If you get that, consider yourself lucky.

silvermist99
08-18-2008, 04:14 PM
subscribed.
hope its not about facebook

mit-gee-mui
08-18-2008, 04:30 PM
subscribed.
hope its not about facebook

HAHAHA! No. I have nothing to say about that site.





Original post updated. I am still updating it though, so you may see changes here and there.

mleblond
08-18-2008, 04:39 PM
hahaha ding them back next time, see how they like it :chuckle

huyzel
08-18-2008, 04:40 PM
OMG.... there are people out there who would rather burn their children in a fire before they admit to lying after you've caught them in the act.
Looks like you just met a couple of these people.

Flagrum_3
08-18-2008, 04:49 PM
Your first mistake was waiting for the ol' lady to get out of the car.!...Geez when I'm in that situation I rev my engine to get their attention and then skiddado out of there asap :)

Anyways lucky the dent, which I have to admit I can't see in the pic, (try a slight angle shot) seems to be on your mouldings, good reason and time to finally remove them :chuckle .looks hawter.

I think its pretty sad what happen but I guess there is no honour among people anymore, and unfortunately not much you can do.


_3

MikeyGT
08-18-2008, 04:49 PM
Wow, detailed story. Sorry to hear about your car. If it makes you feel better someone left a door dent on my driver front. its half an inch deep but they ran away. But you definitely acted the same way as me.

As to what you can do, i guess i dont know any. i'll wait for some people's wise advices heh..

mit-gee-mui
08-18-2008, 04:50 PM
hahaha ding them back next time, see how they like it :chuckle


Unfortunately/fortunately, I am NOT one to seek revenge. EVER.

Plenty, and I mean PLENTY of people have gotten away with much much MUCH more serious, life threatening things in my life, and back then, I let those things go. BIG mistake, since I am still suffering from the consequences of "not doing anything". I have learned from my mistakes though, and realized that letting things slide just makes it seem right/okay in their eyes, and they will just keep doing it to me and/or everyone else as if nothing happened.

Take note: This does NOT mean that I will go on a rampage and start seeking revenge on everyone that has ever done anything remotely bad to me or anything, but at the same time, I am not going to let people walk all over me for the rest of my life. It isn't a good way to live. Trust me.



Anyways lucky the dent, which I have to admit I can't see in the pic, (try a slight angle shot) seems to be on your mouldings, good reason and time to finally remove them :chuckle .looks hawter.

This didn't happen to any of my 3's. (THANK GOODNESS OR I WOULD HAVE GONE MORE NUTS!) Removing the molding on this car will leave holes, which I can fill up, but I feel better with them there to at least act as a first defense against stuff like this from happening again, for now at least.





By the way, thanks for the replies guys.:) I really appreciate it.

ds2chan
08-18-2008, 05:02 PM
sorry to hear. unfortunately, most ppl won't own up to their mistakes. bunch of :AHs.

you should ask them how they would like it if you hit their door with your door and see how much they care?? then actually do it and take off.

take it easy and go get urself an ice cream. it'll make you feel better.

mit-gee-mui
08-18-2008, 05:08 PM
I just went outside to take pictures with the digital camera. They don't seem that much better since my hands are shaking from fury.

http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i274/belleTM3s_pics/080308044.jpg
http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i274/belleTM3s_pics/080308045.jpg

My neighbour just so happened to be there, and he started cussing because he and everyone in my neighbourhood knows/know how much time I spend on my car and how well I take care of it. They see me working on it for 7+ hours at a time winter, spring, summer, fall, and they appreciate that I love my car so much, so this really got him mad too.

MSMitch
08-18-2008, 05:16 PM
Some people are idiots (that's why I'm a vet - animals don't lie!!!).
Yeah, it's a small ding, but at least acknowledge you did it. Revenge won't solve anything, only escalate things.
I will admit one time I had a similar incident with someone with a much more expensive car (Benz) - his Benz door hit my GTI VR6 - just looked at me and walked away (left a small mark on the side door guard. I left a note on his car afterwards that read: "Dear sir, I am truly sorry about the damage to your car, I hit it by accident when I was backing out of my parking spot. I will gladly pay for the damage to your bumper and tail lights. Please call me so I know how much damage there was (insert fake number here)."
I watched from afar, and man, that putz walked around his car for like 20 minutes looking for damage that wasn't there. It was quite funny!! I'm more into the mind games!!! Anyway, take it easy. If I see the plate and I'm walking my dog, a little poop in the door handle may be in order. :chuckle:chuckle

ShortBus
08-18-2008, 05:25 PM
Some people are idiots (that's why I'm a vet - animals don't lie!!!).
Yeah, it's a small ding, but at least acknowledge you did it. Revenge won't solve anything, only escalate things.
I will admit one time I had a similar incident with someone with a much more expensive car (Benz) - his Benz door hit my GTI VR6 - just looked at me and walked away (left a small mark on the side door guard. I left a note on his car afterwards that read: "Dear sir, I am truly sorry about the damage to your car, I hit it by accident when I was backing out of my parking spot. I will gladly pay for the damage to your bumper and tail lights. Please call me so I know how much damage there was (insert fake number here)."
I watched from afar, and man, that putz walked around his car for like 20 minutes looking for damage that wasn't there. It was quite funny!! I'm more into the mind games!!! Anyway, take it easy. If I see the plate and I'm walking my dog, a little poop in the door handle may be in order. :chuckle:chuckle

i call shenanigans on the letter.

but this is why i park pretty far away from the front of the store and form most people/cars for that matter.

dmanrevived
08-18-2008, 05:32 PM
That sounds like a frustrating situation indeed. Some people are just selfish and stubborn like that.

At least it's not a 2-3" scratch that looks like it came from the handlebars of a bike. If only I knew who did it. :flaming

Soyabean
08-18-2008, 05:42 PM
i'd follow them to scare them lol. but then they might call the cops. But regardless, people are ignorant. My buddy just got his fender dinged and the guy kept ignoring it. He was going to punch him out but his wife owns the nail store his cousin works at

DumpInfo
08-18-2008, 05:45 PM
I know that feeling but never have caught anyone doing it to my car cause if that were the case I'm the type of person to blow up and show no respect! This might sound stupid but what I find works is if you stair at them until they are completely out of the ride then I continue off with doing what I need to do..

MSMitch
08-18-2008, 05:49 PM
i call shenanigans on the letter.

but this is why i park pretty far away from the front of the store and form most people/cars for that matter.

I call shenanigans on your mom!! Kidding, I'm a kidder!! :chuckle

Actually, I've done it three times in my life here on Earth - one to the Benz owner, once to a Porsche driver who parked diagonally across two handicap spots and RAN out of his car at Yorkdale shopping centre and the other one was a BMW 705iL who double parked downtown where I used to go to UofT. I was a bit of an A-hole back then (actually still am), but I never vandalized any cars or anything stupid like that. :)

argos
08-18-2008, 05:51 PM
cool, never really thought side mouldings wer actually useful in the real world.

silvermist99
08-18-2008, 05:53 PM
HAHAHA! No. I have nothing to say about that site.





Original post updated. I am still updating it though, so you may see changes here and there.

I know how you feel being same age and having to deal with elders quite often. Some*** seniors just expect you to take it up the as$ because you are a lot younger then them (I know many who are reasonable) they can get extremely stubborn at times. I imagine you being worst then my situation if you look like a mui mui lol. I work full time with people whose average age is well into the 40s and get these conflicts very often on who screwed things up. When discussion gets heated up it always go back to I’m at fault because I’m young and didn’t do things ‘their way’.

look at these as battle scars of your car :D you have been through the rough and good times with your car/pride/spouse whatever you call it. I had a similar incident a month ago when my cousin, she somehow pulled the edge of my molding off, then the doors opened and the passenger door molding got stuck and squished inside the driver's door. It destroyed my molding on a 4 months old / 3000km car. The molding was mangled and looked way worst then yours. Luckily on the ms3 I can just rip it off. My solution was this http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3229/2721231973_4bccee79a9.jpg

I baby my car as much as I can... its a garage queen protected from the evil outside world:bana2. I still see new scratches/chips on it quite often. I don’t get pissed anymore I know I am doing my best to keep it as spotless as possible already. Shit happens and there always will be retards out there that will wreck it. I don’t have time getting angry at them I just want to enjoy my car.

5_Alive
08-18-2008, 05:54 PM
Dude, glad to handled it well, but in all seriousness, its on the door molding, and the molding did its damn job, and very well to add to that.
I'm the same way as you when it comes to my car, I'm beyond anal, as I'm a detailer. The littlest thing bothers the hell out of me, but its a car, and people like that out there exist. If someone is so worried as to what will happen to their car, they shouldn't drive.
I drive because its a car, its made to be driven, and god forbid if something happens, I fix it.
Either buff out that little spot, remove your moldings like others have said, or just don't sweat it.

silvermist99
08-18-2008, 05:55 PM
Some people are idiots (that's why I'm a vet - animals don't lie!!!)

best advice ever!!!! I should have considered that when I picked what field to study in school. Too bad I sucked in science.

mit-gee-mui
08-18-2008, 05:56 PM
This might sound stupid but what I find works is if you stair at them until they are completely out of the ride then I continue off with doing what I need to do..

Doesn't work for me.:bang




I baby my car as much as I can... its a garage queen protected from the evil outside world:bana2. I still see new scratches/chips on it quite often. I don’t get pissed anymore I know I am doing my best to keep it as spotless as possible already. Shit happens and there always will be retards out there that will wreck it. I don’t have time getting angry at them I just want to enjoy my car.

I knew that stuff like this was bound to happen and that I would get mad. I guess today was the day.
Oh, and DUDE! I baby my car too. I always put it in the garage whenever I am home. It gets the best of everything.

dentinger
08-18-2008, 07:53 PM
thats nothing.
my now ex friend ran into my car and put a large dent in the crease of the door, and 2 dents in the lower door from his knees hitting it.
he still denies it, saying i have no proof blah blah blah....

you did the right thing. your rarely catch the person who dented your car, and when you do... its sweeeeeet. (sorry, i LOVE arguing with ppl, especially when im right)

stormin84
08-18-2008, 08:04 PM
i know exactly how you feel...i had a women hit me in the parking lot when i was parked and she was pulling in. the hit was so hard that it knock part of the bumper off, she refused to admit that she hit my car. After about 30 mins arguing at her and showing the dent on her car and matching it up to my car she admited it and paid to have my car fixed(after i told her i was calling the cops)
sorry for your luck.

(those dam ppl that don't care about their cars or others)

wtom
08-18-2008, 08:13 PM
I know it sucks, I felt the same way the first time my car got dinged. I just gave up after three dings (seriously). There are A LOT more people out there that just don't give a sh!t about other people's property. It's seriously not worth the aggrevation and heart breaking that you'll go through. Let it go, fix the scrape and forget about it (but remember the license plate). Karma always happens.

x_o_k_x
08-18-2008, 08:55 PM
Thats sucks and the worst thing you cant do anything about it. Like you said some people dont have respect for other people's property. Atlist yours was on the door moulding while I got a door ding right on my rear door few weeks after I got my car.. I waxed it and it still showing. From since then I only park far away..as its the best thing you can do. Hope you feel better!

Dave_The_BMXER
08-18-2008, 09:05 PM
Mitch, fake notes, thats awesome I am doing that next time the situation calls for it.

b3GS
08-19-2008, 01:33 PM
people are asswipes.. no question about it, and unfortunately nothing you can do about it.

nobody has any respect for anyone elses property or feelings anymore, and it seems it's only getting worse.

on the other hand.. that seems like a very minor scratch that can probably be touched up or buffed out a bit anyways.. and it was on your door molding thank god.

honestly.. life is too short to let the small things bother you this much. just sayin'

ShortBus
08-19-2008, 04:22 PM
I call shenanigans on your mom!! Kidding, I'm a kidder!! :chuckle

Actually, I've done it three times in my life here on Earth - one to the Benz owner, once to a Porsche driver who parked diagonally across two handicap spots and RAN out of his car at Yorkdale shopping centre and the other one was a BMW 705iL who double parked downtown where I used to go to UofT. I was a bit of an A-hole back then (actually still am), but I never vandalized any cars or anything stupid like that. :)

what no beach towel?

http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/89474

MSMitch
08-19-2008, 04:41 PM
what no beach towel?

http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/89474

LOL! I guess next time I could use a full dog poop bag or something to rub the scratch out with!!! :chuckle
Not sure if I wanna drive around with a bag-o-poop though, hmmm, will have to rethink that perhaps...

mit-gee-mui
08-19-2008, 04:50 PM
Thanks guys for all your responses. There has been a lot of stuff happening in my life over the last few weeks, and now the simplest and not so simplest of things are really setting me off. It's not good at all.

I DO realize that the dent is "nothing". I have worse marks all over my car because of how much I drive it. My car/cars was/were bought for me to wreck and/or preserve, and not for others to ruin. What continued to piss me off WAS the lady's reaction and her ignorance and refusal to admit what she did was wrong. The man in the car didn't care less that I went out to take a picture of his license plate. Had the woman not turned around and started screaming, he would have probably just gone on with his day. He remained perfectly calm in his car for a good 5-10 mins before he finally stepped out to calm the woman down, while cursing at me and telling me the stuff about the tax dollars.

The guys from toprotege have given me the link to a police report that I can try to fill out. I don't think I have enough information though. In a way, I don't even want to bother, because it was such a small thing. I just wish the whole situation didn't escalate to something so ridiculous.

Anyways, I have let this get to me long enough. That is 24 hours too much. Worst part is that I keep blaming myself. Maybe I should have waited until she disappeared into the bank before getting out. Maybe I should have taken a picture of the plate while driving off. Maybe I shouldn't have gone back inside the bank to fix a big error that a teller had made with my account. Maybe I shouldn't have gone to the bank at all. Stupid stuff like that. Thanks for all the support guys. I know that stuff like this happens all the time, but people these days are getting ruder and more resentful than ever.

To make this thread more than just a rant, I wanted to ask you guys what to do should this happen to someone else or me again (other than nothing and getting back at them). Plus, how do you deal with older and/or very difficult people that are so stuck in their ways that they won't listen (not just in a situation like this, but in any situation)? Don't take this the wrong way, as I said, I am not racist/age-ist/etc.-ist. I work with old people every now and then, and I find that they are one of the most carefree people out there. They are so easy to get along with, whether I know them or they are random strangers. Also, I have nothing against black people. I have always gotten along with them. No matter what the race/age/etc, there are always difficult people.

Thanks again.:)


ds2chan - I ate an extra scoop of ice cream for you.:)

x_o_k_x
08-19-2008, 05:30 PM
i would probably ask for insurance details, if they would deny it. Take picture of liscence plates or atlest memorize them. Call police if problem persist. Ask for cash.
However on the other side you probably will go no where with this. I remember I parked closer to the store and this lady walks out and turns her troller while bangs my car, I was inside and heard the banging. As she started walking away I get out and say " Excuse me did you just hit my car?" She replies "Oh I did? Sorry I didnt see that" Luckily there was no damage so then I said "You lucky that there is no damage".. and go back to my car. In that case if there was, I would ask for her ID and make her pay for it.
Car is a car.. but if someone dings it scrathes is, its damage no matter how big or small it is, its stilll damage. Personally I believe it should be dealt like any other damages. Esspecially if its someone elses property.

mit-gee-mui
08-19-2008, 05:37 PM
i would probably ask for insurance details, if they would deny it. Take picture of liscence plates or atlest memorize them. Call police if problem persist. Ask for cash.
However on the other side you probably will go no where with this. I remember I parked closer to the store and this lady walks out and turns her troller while bangs my car, I was inside and heard the banging. As she started walking away I get out and say " Excuse me did you just hit my car?" She replies "Oh I did? Sorry I didnt see that" Luckily there was no damage so then I said "You lucky that there is no damage".. and go back to my car. In that case if there was, I would ask for her ID and make her pay for it.
Car is a car.. but if someone dings it scrathes is, its damage no matter how big or small it is, its stilll damage. Personally I believe it should be dealt like any other damages. Esspecially if its someone elses property.

Not so easy to do when you look like a little kid.:complain My attempt at getting any kind of information obviously didn't go so well.

Go_Habs_Go
08-19-2008, 05:51 PM
Sorry to hear about the ding and sorry to hear that you had to deal with people like that!!!! Unfortunately we live in a society with all kinds of people...good and bad!

Hope it doesn't happen to you again...

silvermist99
08-19-2008, 05:56 PM
The guys from toprotege have given me the link to a police report that I can try to fill out. I don't think I have enough information though. In a way, I don't even want to bother, because it was such a small thing. I just wish the whole situation didn't escalate to something so ridiculous.

I wouldn't bother, it'll cause you a lot more stress & fustration over this.



To make this thread more than just a rant, I wanted to ask you guys what to do should this happen to someone else or me again (other than nothing and getting back at them). Plus, how do you deal with older and/or very difficult people that are so stuck in their ways that they won't listen (not just in a situation like this, but in any situation)?

I usually cause a scene (professionally, usually it happens at work) when argue with older people and know they are totally wrong, but half the time it doesn't work because they are more stubborn then stubborn, then I just give up and move onto other things usually and totally ignore those people. Its like putting them in a black list and forgetting them.

DumpInfo
08-19-2008, 06:01 PM
Wow all those what-if's are really killing you...I know its your baby and all but you have to let it go especially if nothing was resolved then and there. I feel your pain cause it's happened to me before! If you wanted to be childish you could open a can a pop and pour it all over there windshield or door handles but that might not be equivalent to your dent but might help you feel better... :/

x_o_k_x
08-19-2008, 06:08 PM
Obviously they dont care, they driving a chevy..


Not so easy to do when you look like a little kid

Aw poor you, you need a bf to back you up :chuckle
All I can say is be cautios were you park and hope you dont get dinged more. Things happen, its life. Just please don't feel bad about it, you have done everything you could possibly do. If I could I would fix that ding for you

mit-gee-mui
08-19-2008, 06:21 PM
Wow all those what-if's are really killing you...
:bang


If I could I would fix that ding for you


Awww! That's so sweet!:blush

FLIPDADY
08-19-2008, 06:27 PM
Easy fix for that dent would be to yank those side moldings. Unless of course Honda still clips them into the door skins like before.

Gods Son
08-19-2008, 06:35 PM
"My ex-to-be-in-laws were black. I know all about them and their ways of thinking, but that has nothing to do with it. I realize that old people, regardless of their race, are always stubborn in their ways, but I do also realize that older black people are also incredibly ignorant as well. I was told this from a black guy himself."

As a black male I must say I'm offended by the above comment. In addition, I'm shocked to see none of the mods would comment on this. So because my fiancee is filipino, it gives me the right to pass judgment on all older filipino people?? Sorry, but your comment is offensive and if this is what is tolerated on this site then I don't want to be a part of it anymore.

mit-gee-mui
08-19-2008, 06:39 PM
"My ex-to-be-in-laws were black. I know all about them and their ways of thinking, but that has nothing to do with it. I realize that old people, regardless of their race, are always stubborn in their ways, but I do also realize that older black people are also incredibly ignorant as well. I was told this from a black guy himself."

As a black male I must say I'm offended by the above comment. In addition, I'm shocked to see none of the mods would comment on this. So because my fiance is filipino, it gives me the right to pass judgment on all older filipino people?? Sorry, but your comment is offensive and if this is what is tolerated on this site then I don't want to be a part of it anymore.

Hey, sorry if I offended you and/or stepped on any toes. I think you totally took my words the wrong way. If you knew me, you would see that a lot of my friends outside the car club and even some in the car club are of Jamaican/Trinidad/Scotian heritage. Many times, I even consider myself to be one. I just put that part in there so that readers wouldn't think I was selectively targetting all black people. Having a filipino fiance doesn't give you the right to pass judgement on all older filipinos. Not at all. If you kept reading my responses, you would see that I stated that situations like this happen with ALL people, REGARDLESS of their age/race/etc. That is why I kept repeating myself when I stated that I wasn't trying to sound age-ist/race-ist/etc.-ist. Please PM me if you are still offended and we can discuss this.:)

Obviously, you haven't seen my reply yet, but if you want, you can always PM a mod to remove that part from my post, as I cannot change it anymore due to lack of an edit button after 24 hours.

crazycanuck
08-21-2008, 04:01 PM
Although you didn't mean anything by it, MGM. The sensible thing to have done is not to have mentioned race at all. It wasn't really relevant to the situation.

From what I'm understand, they were simply a couple of stubborn, irresponsible people who don't want to admit it when they're wrong.

Either way, you did the right thing by approaching the situation in a grown up fashion. It was unfortunate the way it turned out, but you would have been sulking in a pool of self pity and regret now had you not done anything.


Hey, sorry if I offended you and/or stepped on any toes. I think you totally took my words the wrong way. If you knew me, you would see that a lot of my friends outside the car club and even some in the car club are of Jamaican/Trinidad/Scotian heritage. Many times, I even consider myself to be one. I just put that part in there so that readers wouldn't think I was selectively targetting all black people. Having a filipino fiance doesn't give you the right to pass judgement on all older filipinos. Not at all. If you kept reading my responses, you would see that I stated that situations like this happen with ALL people, REGARDLESS of their age/race/etc. That is why I kept repeating myself when I stated that I wasn't trying to sound age-ist/race-ist/etc.-ist. Please PM me if you are still offended and we can discuss this.:)

Obviously, you haven't seen my reply yet, but if you want, you can always PM a mod to remove that part from my post, as I cannot change it anymore due to lack of an edit button after 24 hours.

mit-gee-mui
08-21-2008, 04:10 PM
Although you didn't mean anything by it, MGM. The sensible thing to have done is not to have mentioned race at all. It wasn't really relevant to the situation.

From what I'm understand, they were simply a couple of stubborn, irresponsible people who don't want to admit it when they're wrong.

Either way, you did the right thing by approaching the situation in a grown up fashion. It was unfortunate the way it turned out, but you would have been sulking in a pool of self pity and regret now had you not done anything.


Honestly, my only intention for putting that part in my post was to record all the details I remembered while it was still fresh in my mind. (That way, IF I was going to do anything about the situation, I would have all the details written down and I would just have to glance over everything to fill out the report. I figured that would make my life a lot easiser.) Then I went back over everything and wanted to make sure that people didn't think I was being selective to a certain type of people or age. Despite repeating myself over and over again, I obviously didn't do a good job. :bang


Looking back, except for a few reasons here and there, I kind of regret posting this thread. In addition, certain things that were mentioned could have been deleted before I clicked the submit button. I was a lot calmer and felt a lot better before even posting it. I do know that things like this happen all the time, and I do know that the damage done to my car was very minimal.

Lesson learned.

Once again, thanks guys.:)

ramboh
08-21-2008, 04:47 PM
I know first-hand about the stubborn-ness and racism of some people. I'm a mid-twenties asian CBC male. I'm as white as can be though, heck I don't speak or understand a word of chinese. Not that any of this really matters though...

Anyhow, on with my story. About 2 years ago, I was driving down Avenue Rd during construction in my old chrysler 300 and while merging left and checking my blindspot to ensure I didn't nail this big BMW 7-series, I bumped the corolla in front of me (who really shouldn't have stopped in the first place...sigh). Anyhow, we stopped and both got out. Damage was minimal, just a scratch that could be buffed out. Anyhow, I was apologetic and offered my information and to pay for any damages right away. The lady was old, probably 60+ caucasian and the first thing she said to me was "You should have stayed in your own country". I was taken aback. I hadn't heard racism like that since my childhood days and it was shocking and appalling to hear it in 21st century multi-cultural toronto. Anyhow, I bit my tongue, apologized for the damage again and told her I would pay for it. She continued berating me and my race, saying I wasn't Canadian and blah blah and I shouldn't be in this country. I finally said to her that she could forget about me paying and we'd go through insurance (mine was a company vehicle) and I'd gladly settle that way with the accident going on her record. i also asked her if she was native indians because she was also an immigrant to this country. She was dumbfounded and didn't know what to say. We exchanged information and I actually apologized again for the small bump (that was VERY difficult) and went our separate ways.

I never heard from her again. I honestly suspect that my good will towards her in apologizing went a long way. Also, she probably told someone what happened and they probably warned her not to pursue this as I really was ready to just put this through insurance as it would have had no effect on my fleet policy. Heck, I was contemplating calling the cops just to witness this blatant verbal abuse.

Anyhow, to make a long story short, some people are ignorant and still believe the world is flat and nothing that you and I will say will ever change their minds.

new4me
08-21-2008, 08:40 PM
I am sorry to hear about the ding. I am more sorry that the person that caused the damage would not acknowledge the error and apologize. As a car person of course you would be upset with any ding, stratch or damage, but it seems to me that the fact that the "offender" did not own up to the error is what really upset you. Regardless of whether the other person cares about cars or not - your car is your personal property and it deserves respect as do you.

I think you handled the situation quite well. My thought is it is probably best to try to put the situation behind you and clean up the dinged area as best as possible.

I think the bottom line really has nothing to do with race, age or cars - it is really about respect. We all want it and deserve it (at least until proven otherwise).

Let's face it there are disrespectful people of all ages, races and background. I hope that the shared love of cars prevails and that those who might have be offended give the forum another chance. I am new here but have learned so much already and know that everyone has something to offer.

fini
08-25-2008, 11:36 PM
If someone hits your car and refuses to give out their info to you, that's "hit and run" no matter if it's major damage or small damage. No matter what, you should always get the other person's info. 'Cause, it you don't then there is an opportunity for the other party to say that YOU hit and run. It sounds ridiculous but I've see it before and it's a sad sad thing. Always protect yourself in any situation!

Not as if you even wanted any compensation anyway, but an apology. Next time tell me when you are going to that TD and I'll come be your security guard! I live about 2 minutes away.. haha

Or, if it makes you feel better, you can come ding my car. Please keep it to the side mouldings though >_o

cosic
08-26-2008, 01:49 AM
The digi cam definately does justice.. Looks like there is some red paint though lol.. not green

mit-gee-mui
08-26-2008, 08:13 AM
If someone hits your car and refuses to give out their info to you, that's "hit and run" no matter if it's major damage or small damage. No matter what, you should always get the other person's info. 'Cause, it you don't then there is an opportunity for the other party to say that YOU hit and run. It sounds ridiculous but I've see it before and it's a sad sad thing. Always protect yourself in any situation!

Not as if you even wanted any compensation anyway, but an apology. Next time tell me when you are going to that TD and I'll come be your security guard! I live about 2 minutes away.. haha

Or, if it makes you feel better, you can come ding my car. Please keep it to the side mouldings though >_o

:blush:hawt


The digi cam definately does justice.. Looks like there is some red paint though lol.. not green
The guy kept rubbing it with his hands. Maybe there was something dirty and red on them. Or maybe it was from one of the other people who hit my car (at the same location??) and never got caught. :whoa


Edit:
OR!
3-4 years ago, I took this car to Ashbridges Bay with a few friends to watch fireworks on July 1st. When we got back, I found that someone had put a bunch of lines using something red (looked like crayon?) on my mouldings and part of my door on the passenger and driver sides. I buffed most of it off, and I'm sure I removed it all (since I haven't noticed it while washing the car for the last little while), but maybe this from back then? :whoa