Need some advice with CAI

[Shotta-KB]

For the most part I've been researching and toying with getting a CAI for my 07 MZ3 GT sedan, but I'd like to know of the following which intake to go with and why you would consider it "better" than the other.

I'm stuck between the MS3 CAI and Fujita. I'm not too keen on K&N, AEM or Injen but hey if you can convince me to go with one over the rest please feel free to speak up. :bana2

[06Touring3]

This has been discussed sooooooo many times....

You are not going to get a definite answer but i'll help you out...

CAI - increase in power throughout entire powerband
SRI - increase in power at lower RPMs

A lot of people here like the Fujita F5 or the AEM or Mazdaspeed...

I have a Simota and would recommend it.

[Soyabean]

i have mazdaspeed, its good but i find the diameter of the piping smaller than the fujita. Possibly limit airflow? So fujita might be better but does not have the splash guard to protect filter.

I would go for injen, reason being they have 2 piece to convert between sri and cai. Also, its cheaper than the simota cuz its not made of cf.

Ask peter, he has some

[Shotta-KB]

Ya I did link SSG but I was concerned about water getting in the filter and was going for the Fujita but then I learnt there was no guard. Wouldn't the undershield be enough protection or is the guard pretty much required on any CAI you install?

[Slipstream]

problem with injen CAI is that if you decide to go short ram your gonna need a smaller filter as the original filter is too big for the short ram pipe. Im still using cold air but i had problem with water getting into the filter so once u figure out to solve that problem your golden.

[Shotta-KB]

Yea I was most concerned about water going in the filter...

[x_o_k_x]

Yea I was most concerned about water going in the filter...

Just get splash guard, aslo watch were you going, huge puddles would definately suck in the water. And tape the vent at the wheel bay so that water want go through there and you'll be fine

[Iceman_F1]

Just get splash guard, aslo watch were you going, huge puddles would definately suck in the water. And tape the vent at the wheel bay so that water want go through there and you'll be fine

If you mean the gaps near the tire, the 08.5 doesn't have those openings...or at least mine doesn't. I know the OP was talking about an 07, just stating.

I just recently got a used injen. No problems with it currently though I'm aware of the whole 2 filter issue. So far, I'm running it as a CAI and no probles in the few times it's rained. No splash guard or anything. To be "safe", I'm thinking in winter to switch it to the SRI part but am as yet undecided. The fact that I have that option is nice.

I have heard of people getting the sleeves to go over the filter and that helps keep most of the water out. Though if you drive in a big enough puddle, nothing would 100% stop the water lol.

[06Touring3]

I have heard of people getting the sleeves to go over the filter and that helps keep most of the water out. Though if you drive in a big enough puddle, nothing would 100% stop the water lol.

Good point. Also the chances of that happening are very rare. Would you willingly drive through a massive puddle? lol

But you shouldn't worry about water gettign into the filter. And if you are you will be worried for ANY CAI not just the Fujita becuase it can happen to any of them. Just get the splash guard and the sleeve if you want piece of mind

This is the second car I've owned with a CAI and have never had an issue ever. Not with rain, snow, car wash nothing.

[Iceman_F1]

Good point. Also the chances of that happening are very rare. Would you willingly drive through a massive puddle? lol

But you shouldn't worry about water gettign into the filter. And if you are you will be worried for ANY CAI not just the Fujita becuase it can happen to any of them. Just get the splash guard and the sleeve if you want piece of mind

This is the second car I've owned with a CAI and have never had an issue ever. Not with rain, snow, car wash nothing.


I wouldn't drive through that large a puddle even WITHOUT a CAI...unless I had no choice...and even then, I would go REALLY slow...

[bbell1984]

Where do you get the guard and the sleeve from?

[x_o_k_x]

Sleeve doesnt work, the water would still go through due to having so much force in suction. So splash quard would be best and you get it from the website

[06Touring3]

I wouldn't drive through that large a puddle even WITHOUT a CAI...unless I had no choice...and even then, I would go REALLY slow...

lol yeah no doubt...i may just sit there upset staring at the puddle

[Shotta-KB]

OK so I'm thinking I'd go with the MS3 CAI as it comes with the splash guard, from what I understand. Getting FLIPDADY to prolly hook me up on a good price...gonna watch some more youtube vids to see if I like the MS CAI or Fujita...so much pressure! :rant

[McGuyver_3]

personally i had the aem and i regret ever trading it haha. the sound was much nicer and i liked it alot better. Never had a peoblem with water getting in had it for roughly 1 year.Now am running the injen short ram version though. It is also nice I am looking to get the mazdaspeed next

[bbell1984]

Sleeve doesnt work, the water would still go through due to having so much force in suction. So splash quard would be best and you get it from the website

And which website would that be?

[x_o_k_x]

lol sorry, lets say you get fujita CAI got to their website to get their splash guard etc

[FLIPDADY]

problem with injen CAI is that if you decide to go short ram your gonna need a smaller filter as the original filter is too big for the short ram pipe. Im still using cold air but i had problem with water getting into the filter so once u figure out to solve that problem your golden.
I ran the short ram set-up for a while until i decided to switch back to cold air. It was tight but I still used the same filter.

I'm gonna pull mine off tomorrow cause I'm gonna run with the stock air box and K&N drop in. Soon to be for sale.

[SL3VIN]

CAI - increase in power throughout entire powerband
SRI - increase in power at lower RPMs


Short ram intakes bring more air into your car's engine, which creates more power during combustion. Short ram intakes will help with throttle response and gives your car more power, while at the same time adding a pleasing induction sound to your engine under acceleration. A short ram intake also significantly cleans up your under-hood appearance and makes it easier to see and access components of your engine bay.

The difference between a short ram intake and a cold air intake is:
Cold air intakes are usually placed in the fender well area, which brings in a cooler charged air from beneath the car (outside of the engine bay), which is denser and therefore creates more power. The piping is a lot longer than a short ram which means the power gains are not seen until the mid to higher RPM band. A short ram intake is located inside the engine bay and creates power with better response times than a cold air, however the air is not as dense, which means that it doesn't make as much power in the upper RPM region and makes less power overall.

[Flagrum_3]

Shotta, there's no pressure just get the MSCai, you'll be happy with it, trust me!

Why do they call the Short Ram intakes RAM anyways? ...they are nothing of the sort, a true ram intake would have a dedicated enclosed thru-port to external air.I personally cannot see them giving much if at all in the way performance; power, torque or response, just look where they are situated....just my 2c.


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[Shotta-KB]

Shotta, there's no pressure just get the MSCai, you'll be happy with it, trust me!

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I was thinking the same thing Flag, I was just thinking the same thing...

[Nextmod]

I have the Fujita instock for $250 right now on special

[Shotta-KB]

I have the Fujita instock for $250 right now on special

How much to get with a splash guard SSG?

[Veritaz]

Sleeve doesnt work, the water would still go through due to having so much force in suction. So splash quard would be best and you get it from the website

I ran the K&N with the drycharger sleve from K&N for 3 years through rain sleet, snow and puddles and then just to test it farther i put a body kit on with fog light holes and no foglights. Just so happens one of the holes was right where the filter was and I drove with that for a year.

Never had a single problem. The Drycharger hood is designed with the specific purpose of stopping damaging ammounts of water getting into the intake track under vacum so I don't see how you can arbitrarily say "it doesn't work."

The K&N Typhoon intake is also A CCAI so it can be converted to a SRI during the wet months if you are really nervous about it. Ran it for 4 years and never had a single problem... then sold it and it is still working fine. no cracks or defects... best quality one in my experience.

[intensity]

i just got my fujita CAI installed today and loving it lol... i'm pretty sure other members on the forum with fujita would agree.