Cover your PIN

[aylkoo]

Had my bank card cancelled again because of suspected fraud. This time, they actually made a fake $800 deposit, took it out and then another 200 bucks. The bank had to do a fraud investigation before they reimbursed me the thousand bucks. Pain in the butt. Will try to avoid using debit at gas stations, the bank tells me that a lot of pins are taken there.

[x_o_k_x]

Pay at the pump, alot safer. Gas station do get robbed as well..

[Slade]

Pay at the pump, alot safer. Gas station do get robbed as well..

I always pay at the pump now (I only get gas at Esso though because you can't get Petro Points at the pump :flaming) after having my bank card froze 2 years ago. I recently had it skimmed at a Wendys as well, already had a thread on that.

[x_o_k_x]

yeah i think i recall reading that thread.. not sure how bank cards work, but dont they need you bank card number as well, not just the pin#? On the receipts its blocked out half of it.. so how does it work?

[LockOut]

Up here in Newmarket you can definitely get Petro Points at the pump... I have been for the last year...

[jaimie08mazda3]

same here in rockwood/ guelph. what you do is insert your petro points first then your card

[Soyabean]

also, be very scared of those individual atm machines.... I am always scared to use those and never do unless really have to.

[STeeLy]

also, be very scared of those individual atm machines.... I am always scared to use those and never do unless really have to.

Definitely agree with this one. If possible, always use an ATM from your bank... if you can't, find one that belongs to another bank... I find atm owned by actual banks to be safer...

[3GFX]

Always protect your pin! Try and move to a "chip" card if possible. Its a lot safer and harder to copy.

[Fuman]

use a credit card at gas station? I never had an issue.
I use the citi-petro points credit card

[♻①☛]

chip cars are not any safer ... you can use any satellite card programmer that sells for $30
:pop


Always protect your pin! Try and move to a "chip" card if possible. Its a lot safer and harder to copy.

[MajesticBlueNTO]

yeah i think i recall reading that thread.. not sure how bank cards work, but dont they need you bank card number as well, not just the pin#? On the receipts its blocked out half of it.. so how does it work?

the reader is replaced with one that also copies the information off the magnetic stripe. if it is one of the older copiers, the dubious worker will swipe your card twice and tell you to cancel the first swipe or that something was wrong, then swipe again (first being the copy, the 2nd being legit).

then, they can either grab your pin from an overhead camera (or one placed strategically to record the pin pad) or they've replaced the keypad where you enter your pin with one of their own that datalogs the keys pressed...correlate the times with the key logger/camera and the mag stripe copy, download the mag stripe info onto a 'blank' card and they've got all they need to compromise your bank account.

so, cover the keypad when you enter your pin...without the pin, they've just got your card info.

[Iceman_F1]

use a credit card at gas station? I never had an issue.
I use the citi-petro points credit card

LOL...This is exactly what I do too. Just tap the pay-pass and done. I very rarely use my debt. card.

[stormin84]

use a credit card at gas station? I never had an issue.
I use the citi-petro points credit card


i've had problems with 2 company credit card at the same gas station and i paid at the pumps. the credit card company said that they were double charging the cards. they just cancelled the credit card and sent me a new one.

[Fuman]

i've had problems with 2 company credit card at the same gas station and i paid at the pumps. the credit card company said that they were double charging the cards. they just cancelled the credit card and sent me a new one.
Did you pay inside or at the pump?

[stormin84]

Did you pay inside or at the pump?


i paid at the pumps but it was when they first came out with the pay at the pumps so i guess they had some bugs...

[06Touring3]

I always pay at the pump now (I only get gas at Esso though because you can't get Petro Points at the pump :flaming) after having my bank card froze 2 years ago. I recently had it skimmed at a Wendys as well, already had a thread on that.

you have to put your Petro Points card in first if i recall correctly

[Wild Weasel]

you have to put your Petro Points card in first if i recall correctly

I think you're right. It's the opposite at Esso.

[LockOut]

I think you're right. It's the opposite at Esso.


you have to put your Petro Points card in first if i recall correctly

Yup, can't they all just go to a standard? :chuckle I hate having to cancel my transaction when I go to the other station and forget :flaming

[Go_Habs_Go]

just pay at the pump!! much safer that way...

[b.rabbit]

LOL...This is exactly what I do too. Just tap the pay-pass and done. I very rarely use my debt. card.


use a credit card at gas station? I never had an issue.
I use the citi-petro points credit card

+1 I love paypass!

[openuser]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OOiCufYGH9I
http://videos.armweb.net/watch/the-real-hustle-waitress-card-cloning/538c593fbdabb0c5ef2c

Only few ways you can get your bank account compromised.

[STeeLy]

+1 I love paypass!
I just got mine in the mail 2 days ago and am itching to try it out... but my car needs no gas yet...

[3GFX]

chip cars are not any safer ... you can use any satellite card programmer that sells for $30
:pop


Actually, its harder to copy, not harder to program.

The card has to be placed inside the reader that has a prongs to come down and collect information. Unlike the stripes which can be read easily by some simple tweaks in the reader.