View Full Version : GM announces 2010 Chevrolet Camaro pricing
Unoriginalusername
11-24-2008, 10:40 AM
http://www.canadiandriver.com/galleries/images.php?info=2010%20Chevrolet%20Camaro&src=http://www.canadiandriver.com/galleries/2010/images/chevrolet/2010_chevrolet_camaro/2010-chevrolet-camaro_7-1736.jpg
http://www.canadiandriver.com/thenews/2008/11/17/gm-announces-chevrolet-camaro-pricing.htm
Oshawa, Ontario - GM Canada has announced pricing for the all-new 2010 Chevrolet Camaro, which will start at $26,995 for the V6 LS model, and $36,995 for the V8-powered Camaro SS.
“The Camaro is designed, engineered and executed to set a new standard in its class,” said Marc Comeau, vice-president of sales, service and marketing for GM of Canada. “Even in its base form, the eye-catching new Camaro features a sophisticated V6 powerplant which delivers spirited driving and surprisingly good fuel economy, plus a comprehensive suite of handling, safety and convenience technologies to fit the lives of today’s consumers.”
The Camaro will be offered as the V6-powered LS and LT models, and as the V8-powered SS, all with six-speed transmissions. Production is scheduled to begin in the first quarter of 2009 at the company’s plant in Oshawa, Ontario. Complementing the introduction will be a range of performance, appearance and convenience accessories that can be ordered and installed at dealerships, including 21-inch wheels, ground effects, stripe kits and a Hurst shifter.
The V6 models will use a 3.6-litre engine producing an estimated 300 horsepower and 273 lb-ft of torque, with six-speed manual transmission or optional six-speed automatic. The Camaro SS uses a 6.2-litre LS3 V8, estimated at 422 horsepower and 408 lb-ft of torque, with the six-speed manual transmission, and a new 6.2-litre L99 V8 with Active Fuel Management, estimated at 400 horsepower and 395 lb-ft of torque, with the six-speed automatic transmission. Information regarding early ordering, vehicle packaging information and a specification sheet can be found at Camaro.GM
Unoriginalusername
11-24-2008, 10:42 AM
The camaro is $10,000 less than an STI and only 4k more than what the MS3 used to cost before this years price reduction.
I want
Zoom Zoom Boy
11-24-2008, 11:36 AM
Sorry James, it's still a GM and likely, it is still a heavy and unrefined POS. They have a tradition to uphold after all. :chuckle
cereal83
11-24-2008, 12:02 PM
Sorry James, it's still a GM and likely, it is still a heavy and unrefined POS. They have a tradition to uphold after all. :chuckle
Sorry but you must live in a bubble if you think that!
Unoriginalusername
11-24-2008, 12:07 PM
Sorry James, it's still a GM and likely, it is still a heavy and unrefined POS. They have a tradition to uphold after all. :chuckle
i think it will be good :hawt
Zoom Zoom Boy
11-24-2008, 12:08 PM
Sorry but you must live in a bubble if you think that!
Really, why is that? Please enlighten me.
Zoom Zoom Boy
11-24-2008, 12:10 PM
i think it will be good :hawt
It does look hawt, but I'll reserve judgement. For all we know, this could be another Dodge Charger/Challenger. Impressive on spec, less than impressive and less than refined in actuality.
GM could certainly use a winner though right now and their heritage doesn't bode well in this regard.
Unoriginalusername
11-24-2008, 12:15 PM
Really, why is that? Please enlighten me.
http://www.revrambler.com/uploaded-images/2009/2009-Chevrolet-Corvette-ZR1-01.jpg
http://www.autospies.com/images/users/carlover99/2009-cadillac-cts-v-4wheelsblog.jpg
http://www.seriouswheels.com/pics-2007/2007-Pontiac-G8-GT-Front-And-Side-1280x960.jpg
http://www.thetorquereport.com/000501496538.jpg
Unoriginalusername
11-24-2008, 12:16 PM
It does look hawt, but I'll reserve judgement. For all we know, this could be another Dodge Charger/Challenger. Impressive on spec, less than impressive and less than refined in actuality.
GM could certainly use a winner though right now and their heritage doesn't bode well in this regard.
The charger and challenger are built on a 4100lb 10 year old MB platform... the Camaro isn't :chuckle
Zoom Zoom Boy
11-24-2008, 12:23 PM
The charger and challenger are built on a 4100lb 10 year old MB platform... the Camaro isn't :chuckle
Fair enough. Jury's still out for me though. It would be nice to be pleasantly surprised.
As for the pics of the cars you noted, +1 on the ZR1. However, Vette's are not really a new intro, but at least GM got it right...
The G8 does absolutely nothing for me at all and I don't really care much for the CTS either, although its performance is admirable.
I also suspect that the build quality will be less than stellar on all of these models and even the ZR1 is not known for its durability...sheer performance yes, when it isn't breaking down on the track. At Mosport, only the Viper's give it a run for the money, albeit they are slower, but they have proven to be remarkably more durable than the ZR1's.
Unoriginalusername
11-24-2008, 12:30 PM
Fair enough. Jury's still out for me though. It would be nice to be pleasantly surprised.
As for the pics of the cars you noted, +1 on the ZR1. However, Vette's are not really a new intro, but at least GM got it right...
The G8 does absolutely nothing for me at all and I don't really care much for the CTS either, although its performance is admirable.
I also suspect that the build quality will be less than stellar on all of these models and even the ZR1 is not known for its durability...sheer performance yes, when it isn't breaking down on the track. At Mosport, only the Viper's give it a run for the money, albeit they are slower, but they have proven to be remarkably more durable than the ZR1's.
i think the malibu won the COTY this year... american quality has greatly improved
Zoom Zoom Boy
11-24-2008, 12:41 PM
i think the malibu won the COTY this year... american quality has greatly improved
We could go back and forth on this for a while yet...http://img2.mysmiley.net/imgs/smile/fighting/fighting0074.gif (http://www.mysmiley.net/free-sick-smileys.php)
The first (POS) Malibu was pretty well hyped too when it first came out, albeit I don't think it ever won a COTY award. Besides, I take these awards with a grain of salt anyway, as they usually come down to which manufacturer has done the best job of giving out free schwag and sucking up to the car media intelligentsia. :)
Let's see how the new Camaro stacks up once its been out a while. I remain unconvinced it will be anything special and anything more than another over displaced, retro styled car where GM is hoping to make a few fast bucks by playing on the nostalgia of baby boomers. For the sake of GM, I hope I'm wrong...
cereal83
11-24-2008, 12:53 PM
Its typical of people to think Domestics suck and yes while that might have been true 5 years ago, they have greatly changed. Just because a GM car does nothing for you, doesn't mean its a POS. For me, the Corolla is a waste of metal but that doesn't mean the car is a POS, it just isn't for me.
chinsterr
11-24-2008, 12:59 PM
GM NEEDS this to be a winner .... but this may not be the right time to release a new sportscar (economy wise).
Cardinal Fang
11-24-2008, 01:01 PM
It's worthwhile to note that the line between domestic and imports are blured because of where cars are made now. Many Honda's, Toyota's and Mazda's are built here in North America to name a few. The J.D. Power studies I've read have the quality of builds in North America on par. I have no reason to doubt them.
My biggest complaint with the Big3 is the lack of inspiring design. I really don't like the way they look.
Go_Habs_Go
11-24-2008, 01:10 PM
Its typical of people to think Domestics suck and yes while that might have been true 5 years ago, they have greatly changed. Just because a GM car does nothing for you, doesn't mean its a POS. For me, the Corolla is a waste of metal but that doesn't mean the car is a POS, it just isn't for me.
I think domestic vehicles still have a LONG WAY to go before getting to the level of the Japanese cars (and even the Korean cars with Hyundai coming on really strong as of late).
Let's face it, the domestic Big 3 have a reputation problem. A BIG reputation problem. They need to win people back and change that reputation. It's going to take time and no, just putting out a new Malibu and a new Camaro that are built on new platforms and are getting nice reviews is not suddenly going to change that reputation issue.
Let's see GM put out QUALITY cars for the next 5 years. Let's see them put out a SOLID product line across all their brands. Personally I don't think they can do it...I think they will still have a lot of hit and misses with their vehicles, whereas the Japanese manufacturer's have a much higher success ratio. When's the last time a car from Honda or Toyota completely bombed because of poor build quality? Most of the time their car's are a success, both in terms of getting market share and their overall build quality and reliability. GM, Ford and Chrysler have not been able to consistenly do that in North America for a long, long time and they are paying the price for that with a poor reputation.
Zoom Zoom Boy
11-24-2008, 01:19 PM
Its typical of people to think Domestics suck and yes while that might have been true 5 years ago, they have greatly changed. Just because a GM car does nothing for you, doesn't mean its a POS. For me, the Corolla is a waste of metal but that doesn't mean the car is a POS, it just isn't for me.
People think this way because these companies have an excellent track record of showing that thier cars lack quality and that they are in fact, POS's.
For years, all of the big 3 NA manufacturers have languished in market timing, car design, build quality and much, much more. They are outdated in the way they market their cars; the manner in which dealerships handle customers in the sales process; and also the way they place a huge emphasis on designing cars with inferior components so that they can reap extra revenue on related servicing. GM reaped millions by putting undersized and cheap brake components on many of their models as a purposeful strategy to gain additional revenue via vehicle servicing. Don't believe me, look it up.
You say that NA build quality has improved in the last 5 years. Personally, apart from the example of the Malibu that UOU shared, I don't see any evidence of it, but to be fair, I don't own NA cars, period. Although, I do get to rent lots of them on business travel and enough of my friends drive them that I can make a pretty good comparison and evaluation.
BTW-Where are you getting your data to substantiate that the build quality has been better in the last 5 years? Please share it.
Incidentally, if you actually read my posts, I didn't say that the new Camaro was a piece of shit. I said it was 'likely' a POS, which I said somewhat tongue-in-cheek to UOU since he seemed to like the Camaro so much and because I enjoy giving him a difficult time about it. In reality, the jury is still out on the Camaro, despite how I feel about NA cars.
Also, I agree with you about the Corolla. I don't like it at all. I feel the same way about the Sentra too, as I was given it as a loaner after I totalled my Protege. That said, I'd take either of those cars over any of the cars from the big 3 North American manufacturers in that class segment.
To be perfectly frank, in each and any of the respective market segments, I cannot think of a single North American car from the big 3 that I would take over another car from a different manufacturer. Zero, zilch, nada.
The Big3 are in trouble for a reason. They have been building total shit for years. If the build quality is any better now, good for them, but it may be a lot of too little, way too late.
Unoriginalusername
11-24-2008, 01:28 PM
People think this way because these companies have an excellent track record of showing that thier cars lack quality and that they are in fact, POS's.
For years, all of the big 3 NA manufacturers have languished in market timing, car design, build quality and much, much more. They are outdated in the way they market their cars; the manner in which dealerships handle customers in the sales process; and also the way they place a huge emphasis on designing cars with inferior components so that they can reap extra revenue on related servicing. GM reaped millions by putting undersized and cheap brake components on many of their models as a purposeful strategy to gain additional revenue via vehicle servicing. Don't believe me, look it up.
You say that NA build quality has improved in the last 5 years. Personally, apart from the example of the Malibu that UOU shared, I don't see any evidence of it, but to be fair, I don't own NA cars, period. Although, I do get to rent lots of them on business travel and enough of my friends drive them that I can make a pretty good comparison and evaluation.
BTW-Where are you getting your data to substantiate that the build quality has been better in the last 5 years? Please share it.
Incidentally, if you actually read my posts, I didn't say that the new Camaro was a piece of shit. I said it was 'likely' a POS, which I said somewhat tongue-in-cheek to UOU since he seemed to like the Camaro so much and because I enjoy giving him a difficult time about it. In reality, the jury is still out on the Camaro, despite how I feel about NA cars.
Also, I agree with you about the Corolla. I don't like it at all. I feel the same way about the Sentra too, as I was given it as a loaner after I totalled my Protege. That said, I'd take either of those cars over any of the cars from the big 3 North American manufacturers in that class segment.
To be perfectly frank, in each and any of the respective market segments, I cannot think of a single North American car from the big 3 that I would take over another car from a different manufacturer. Zero, zilch, nada.
The Big3 are in trouble for a reason. They have been building total shit for years. If the build quality is any better now, good for them, but it may be a lot of too little, way too late.
if you had $1600 of retiree union costs built into every car before you even touched it and your import competitors didn't you'd struggle to offer the exact same product at the same price too.
They built the NA economy and are then penalized for supporting north american families and the economy overall.
Zoom Zoom Boy
11-24-2008, 01:34 PM
if you had $1600 of retiree union costs built into every car before you even touched it and your import competitors didn't you'd struggle to offer the exact same product at the same price too.
They built the NA economy and are then penalized for supporting north american families and the economy overall.
No dispute. Although, tell me again why I give a crap? Should I buy one of their inferior products cause I feel bad for them and that they built themselves an unsustainable business model that they didn't have the foresight to see coming and effect change in time?
Sorry James, greed and incompetence has been the driving factor of these companies for too long and I'm not going to shed a tear over the worn-out excuse about sustaining local economies and buying domestic to protect jobs etc al. They really couldn't care less about the consumer and little guy and I in turn could care less about their big corporate machine.
Having one of the big 3 go under, or bought out, will be a good thing that may actually bring some real change and open their eyes as to how they need to do business moving forward.
Unoriginalusername
11-24-2008, 02:09 PM
No dispute. Although, tell me again why I give a crap? Should I buy one of their inferior products cause I feel bad for them and that they built themselves an unsustainable business model that they didn't have the foresight to see coming and effect change in time?
Sorry James, greed and incompetence has been the driving factor of these companies for too long and I'm not going to shed a tear over the worn-out excuse about sustaining local economies and buying domestic to protect jobs etc al. They really couldn't care less about the consumer and little guy and I in turn could care less about their big corporate machine.
Having one of the big 3 go under, or bought out, will be a good thing that may actually bring some real change and open their eyes as to how they need to do business moving forward.
I think the UAW's greed is just as much to blame as the big 3. I don't disagree that they need to change and will all likely survive in a much smaller more focused capacity and go through a serious rebuilding phase that will eventually be better for them and the consumer but they are getting a raw deal compared to other firms/industries covered by the bailout program when you look at business practices and intent etc. toyota lost money too... its not like they have a bunch of apes running things at the big 3
Zoom Zoom Boy
11-24-2008, 03:29 PM
I think the UAW's greed is just as much to blame as the big 3. I don't disagree that they need to change and will all likely survive in a much smaller more focused capacity and go through a serious rebuilding phase that will eventually be better for them and the consumer but they are getting a raw deal compared to other firms/industries covered by the bailout program when you look at business practices and intent etc. toyota lost money too... its not like they have a bunch of apes running things at the big 3
Well, we agree here. :)
Although, not 100% sure that there aren't a bunch of drunken monkey's running things at the big 3... I mean, it would go a long way at explaining things like the 'Aztec', PT Cruiser and Edge... http://img2.mysmiley.net/imgs/smile/animals/animal0057.gif (http://www.mysmiley.net/free-indifferent-smileys.php)
maplephin
11-24-2008, 03:38 PM
I've got some pictures from the SEMA show of the Camaro Introduction.
http://www.graphicmat.net/photos
Thrizzl3
11-24-2008, 08:15 PM
I've got some pictures from the SEMA show of the Camaro Introduction.
http://www.graphicmat.net/photos
link doesn't work..and if i got that yellow and black Camaro my license plate would be BUMBL B:chuckle
wait so since it was first seen in the transformers movie..i was watching the behind-the-scenes and i heard the director quote the car a $500k...Why?
Malcolm991
11-24-2008, 08:21 PM
I'm on the fence when it comes to the new Camaro! Nice look's and probably a kick ass powertrain but I've owned alot of GM products in the past with 50/50 luck with them. A nice toy but not a daily driver, perfect for older guy's with the mid-life thing happening!
Ogata
12-02-2008, 08:49 PM
isn't that what they used for bumblebee in the transformers movie?
Unoriginalusername
12-02-2008, 08:55 PM
isn't that what they used for bumblebee in the transformers movie?
yep
http://www.autofans.us/images/Chevrolet/Chevrolet%20Camaro%20Bumblebee.jpg
Ogata
12-02-2008, 09:14 PM
yep
http://www.autofans.us/images/Chevrolet/Chevrolet%20Camaro%20Bumblebee.jpg
I still miss the Volkswagon type Bumblebee in G1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IHNRSl4tPvI&feature=related
Thanks for clarifying!
Brownsound
02-04-2009, 11:00 AM
They did a day at the Salt Flats on Top Gear with this, the new CTS, and the C6. The CTS outstripped it. I think it was the first or second eipsode if the new season.
Unoriginalusername
02-04-2009, 01:00 PM
They did a day at the Salt Flats on Top Gear with this, the new CTS, and the C6. The CTS outstripped it. I think it was the first or second eipsode if the new season.
? the CTS did 165mph and the vette did 176... who outstripepd what?
openuser
02-06-2009, 12:21 AM
I thought they had challenger. not camaro..
Unoriginalusername
02-06-2009, 09:36 AM
I thought they had challenger. not camaro..
he said cts and c6 which they had as well as a challenger which was the slowest of the lot
mazdas3sporte
03-08-2009, 04:05 AM
I'll rather pay more for a european or japanese car than but one of those cheap s*h**it americans, just look at the ZR1, the interior is absoloutly awful, the interior of my mazda looks better than that, like most american cars outside looks good inside look like crap, even the ZR1 which is the most powerfull Vette ever is garbage looking inside imo, the cheap plastic is of less quality than a honda civic interior, nothing WOW about it at all, just a big engine
I'll rather buy a c63 or m3 or GTR which has all around quality
Unoriginalusername
03-08-2009, 11:06 AM
I'll rather pay more for a european or japanese car than but one of those cheap s*h**it americans, just look at the ZR1, the interior is absoloutly awful, the interior of my mazda looks better than that, like most american cars outside looks good inside look like crap, even the ZR1 which is the most powerfull Vette ever is garbage looking inside imo, the cheap plastic is of less quality than a honda civic interior, nothing WOW about it at all, just a big engine
I'll rather buy a c63 or m3 or GTR which has all around quality
nobody is stopping you, go right ahead :chuckle i sure wish my tranmission had that all around quality you speak of that comes with the gtr
chinsterr
03-08-2009, 11:47 AM
I'll rather buy a c63 or m3 or GTR which has all around quality
nobody is stopping you, go right ahead :chuckle i sure wish my tranmission had that all around quality you speak of that comes with the gtr
2 launches and BOOM !
mazdas3sporte
03-08-2009, 01:20 PM
NEVER lol, Nissan GT-R is far better than any American Muscle car, u cant even compare it to a chevy camaro,
Unoriginalusername
03-08-2009, 02:01 PM
NEVER lol, Nissan GT-R is far better than any American Muscle car, u cant even compare it to a chevy camaro,
stay on topic... post up pictures when you get your gtr.
SSmoked
03-08-2009, 03:06 PM
NEVER lol, Nissan GT-R is far better than any American Muscle car, u cant even compare it to a chevy camaro,
lmao shall we look at the nuribergring(sp?) times their champ. the american muscles u speak of (dodge viper and chevy corvette ZR1) run the ring beating out the euro and jap cometition. and who said the american cars cant handle?
yes ur correct tho u cant compare the 120k gtr to the 40k camaro. good suggestion :dodgy:
plus the only thing the gtr has over its competition is the "Lose ur warrenty and blow up ur tranny" button.
Sean80
03-08-2009, 04:42 PM
I saw a new camaro ss on the road last week.... sounded like a beast! so nice!
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