First time dealing with the court system

[Thrizzl3]

The story begins when im going to meet a friend on January 16, 2008. im driving down steeles passing over islington ave. and theres a car that is going slower than the speed limit (i didn't have my 3 at this time) and i pass the car not knowing that it is picking up speed at a rapid rate. As i pass under the bridge there is someone coming onto the street and signaling me to pull over. im like oh snap! a officer with a radar gun booked me doing 110 km/h in a 60 zone! the officer approaches the vehicle and shows me the gun and it says 110 km/h which means i was doing 50 km/h over the limit which is automatic license suspension and car impoundment. he tells me he's not gonna suspend my license nor impound my car but he did give me a court summons which i had no clue what it meant. So the next month i go in for my court summons and they just gave me a date which is Dec 16, 2008 which is 10 months after i was booked speeding. so i go in on Dec 16 and the prosecutor tells me that they can drop it to 40km/h over and i pay a fine of $280+court fees and 4 points. I face the judge and he drops my fine to $200 and no points im like good and i have 90 days to pay it.

WORD TO ALL YOU SPEEDERS OUT THERE..LET THIS BE A WARNING TO YOU!!! DO NOT SPEED THE MINIMUM FINE FOR 50 OVER IS $526. and i also found out that for every km/h over the speed limit you are fined $7 and after 50 over it is $9.75. just so you know

[sauga_kid]

Glad everything worked out for you. Speeding in excess is just unnecessary, great that you have a moral to the story!

[She_Prime]

Good for you Phil. I'm glad everything worked out. Let's just hope you don't have to go back there again.

Jan 21 is my date for the careless dispute. I hope I can get away with something like you did.

Careless on its own is a $325 (plus tax) charge and 6 points. Icky.

[Thrizzl3]

Good for you Phil. I'm glad everything worked out. Let's just hope you don't have to go back there again.

Jan 21 is my date for the careless dispute. I hope I can get away with something like you did.

Careless on its own is a $325 (plus tax) charge and 6 points. Icky.

did you get a summons to court? or is that the trial date?

[vanpatrick81]

Fight the careless. It's no fun paying insurance for a careless. The amount that I'm paying right now, I could be leasing a fully loaded c230. Luckily it's been dropping but still enough to have fully paid off half my car.

[Slade]

Good for you Phil. I'm glad everything worked out. Let's just hope you don't have to go back there again.

Jan 21 is my date for the careless dispute. I hope I can get away with something like you did.

Careless on its own is a $325 (plus tax) charge and 6 points. Icky.

What was the careless for? I got careless when I was 17(I think)( fell asleep at the wheel and rolled the car)

I used Points and they got it knocked down to Driving In an Unmarked lane and no points, aswell as the fine cut in half.

Mind you I had to pay a lot to points, but I got to keep my license and never had to plead a case as to why I should be able to keep it(which is required once you reach 6 points on a G2)

Good luck with your ticket :)

[She_Prime]

did you get a summons to court? or is that the trial date?
That is my trial date. I never had to be summoned. It was my choice to fight it or not.



What was the careless for? I got careless when I was 17(I think)( fell asleep at the wheel and rolled the car)

I used Points and they got it knocked down to Driving In an Unmarked lane and no points, aswell as the fine cut in half.

Mind you I had to pay a lot to points, but I got to keep my license and never had to plead a case as to why I should be able to keep it(which is required once you reach 6 points on a G2)

Good luck with your ticket :)

I rear ended a woman with kids in the car. So yeah it sucked. I'm taking one of those paralegals to court too so I'm hoping I will get some mercy. I'm also a brand new G2 driver so it hurts bad. Jan 21 is when it all goes down.

[Zoom Zoom Boy]

...I rear ended a woman with kids in the car. So yeah it sucked...

Angela,

I mean really...if you're going to 'rear end' a woman, you really should make sure her kids aren't in the car and are at least tucked away safely in bed. I mean, the kids don't need to see all that at such an impressionable age...

In all seriousness, good luck with the impending trial date. I do hope it goes well for you...

[Thrizzl3]

Angela,

I mean really...if you're going to 'rear end' a woman, you really should make sure her kids aren't in the car and are at least tucked away safely in bed. I mean, the kids don't need to see all that at such an impressionable age...


LMFAO ZZB ur so immature..u were probably bored when you said that:chuckle

[She_Prime]

Angela,

I mean really...if you're going to 'rear end' a woman, you really should make sure her kids aren't in the car and are at least tucked away safely in bed. I mean, the kids don't need to see all that at such an impressionable age...

In all seriousness, good luck with the impending trial date. I do hope it goes well for you...

Yeah Tim I'll remember that one the next time I want to smash the front of my car up and pay $625 in repairs. Plus get another careless charge. Because you know how awesome that would be!

But thanks. I am going to need it desperately.

[Zoom Zoom Boy]

LMFAO ZZB ur so immature..u were probably bored when you said that:chuckle
Yah, I was and yah, I am. I saw rear-ended and well, every guy knows what went into my head...


Yeah Tim I'll remember that one the next time I want to smash the front of my car up and pay $625 in repairs. Plus get another careless charge. Because you know how awesome that would be!

But thanks. I am going to need it desperately.

Angela, I know the whole experience hasn't been an awesome one for you. Just trying, albeit badly... to use some perverse 'guy' humour to make you chuckle a little. At the end of the day, despite the nasty hit to your wallet, your car looks awesome again now, nobody was hurt from the accident and I'm confident they'll take the situation into perspective and lower the charges for you. It could have been much worse...

Things will work out and you know we'll be thinking of you. The charge of careless is a little severe for something like this...

[She_Prime]

Angela, I know the whole experience hasn't been an awesome one for you. Just trying, albeit badly... to use some perverse 'guy' humour to make you chuckle a little. At the end of the day, despite the nasty hit to your wallet, your car looks awesome again now, nobody was hurt from the accident and I'm confident they'll take the situation into perspective and lower the charges for you. It could have been much worse...

Things will work out and you know we'll be thinking of you. The charge of careless is a little severe for something like this...

Tim,

I know you were just joking so don't worry. And our conversations prior to this one you've been nothing but awesome to me in. So I'm sorry if I made you take a step back. I was just saying it jokingly.

Oh well. I know you all will be thinking of me. You guys are awesome.

Cookies for everyone! (I'm baking for christmas)

I guess in the weeks to come I will be taking over Phils thread with my story.

[Zoom Zoom Boy]

I actually just sent you a PM. :)

Did someone say cookies???? MMMMMMMM, Cookies.... :pop

[Thrizzl3]

I guess in the weeks to come I will be taking over Phils thread with my story.

:getout

[She_Prime]

:getout


Really Phil? :( guess I'll start my own thread then!

(I know you're just joking)


I actually just sent you a PM. :)

Did someone say cookies???? MMMMMMMM, Cookies.... :pop

PMed you back. And yes cookies. Sugar cookies specifically. <3

[Thrizzl3]

yes im just joking!

but my thread has been hijacked:flaming

BACK ON TOPIC PLEASE!!!!

anybody else gone to court recently?

[jaimie08mazda3]

nope. im actualyl surprised i havent gone to court with what happened to me. wierd.

[Thrizzl3]

why would u go to court in the first place??? first someone hits your 3 and flees and second u hit black ice which u didn't know it was there..

[stormin84]

the only time i've been to court was for a parking ticket...but i did get pulled over for aggressive driving but i was let off with a warning, (the aggressive driving wasn't for speeding, it was for crossing two lanes in one motion)

[Thrizzl3]

it was for crossing two lanes in one motion)

i don't get that??

[stormin84]

neither did i...it is when you signal to change lanes, and cross 2 lanes of traffic

[Thrizzl3]

neither did i...it is when you signal to change lanes, and cross 2 lanes of traffic

oh that's what it is...i don't do that too often but now i kno i can get booked for it thanks kyle

[stormin84]

no problem Phil....i gotta stop doing that when i enter the hwy, usually i enter the hwy faster then most people in the slow lane and just enter in one of the passing lanes...

[jaimie08mazda3]

the only time i've been to court was for a parking ticket...but i did get pulled over for aggressive driving but i was let off with a warning, (the aggressive driving wasn't for speeding, it was for crossing two lanes in one motion)

yea you talked about that maybe what 3 weeks ago or something. i do that all the time.. i probably should be more careful in how i drive. hmmm

[stormin84]

yea you talked about that maybe what 3 weeks ago or something. i do that all the time.. i probably should be more careful in how i drive. hmmm

i know i talked about it a while ago, but now Phil knows about it now.

[She_Prime]

I'm revamping this thread since my ticket went to court yesterday.

For those of you who don't know I rear ended a woman which resulted in a three car collision which I was at fault for. I also got slapped with a careless driving charge.

A careless charge is a $325 fine and six demerit points. This really hurts me as a G2 driver as you have to face license review at 6 demerit points at G2 status. And I need my license due to my profession.

So I hired a traffic court paralegal to take my ticket to court for me. He assured me upon hire I would no longer have a careless charge on my record.

So after everything was said and done my new charge is "failing to merge into the left lane to avoid a collision" and it's a 2 demerit point offence and a $110 fine which I have 90 days to pay.

I think this is a pretty darn good deal and I'm happy with the results. Better than having careless on my record for sure.

The car is pretty again and my mind is at ease.

[Thrizzl3]

I'm revamping this thread since my ticket went to court yesterday.

For those of you who don't know I rear ended a woman which resulted in a three car collision which I was at fault for. I also got slapped with a careless driving charge.

A careless charge is a $325 fine and six demerit points. This really hurts me as a G2 driver as you have to face license review at 6 demerit points at G2 status. And I need my license due to my profession.

So I hired a traffic court paralegal to take my ticket to court for me. He assured me upon hire I would no longer have a careless charge on my record.

So after everything was said and done my new charge is "failing to merge into the left lane to avoid a collision" and it's a 2 demerit point offence and a $110 fine which I have 90 days to pay.

I think this is a pretty darn good deal and I'm happy with the results. Better than having careless on my record for sure.

The car is pretty again and my mind is at ease.

your one lucky person glad to hear that most of the charges were dropped :)

[She_Prime]

your one lucky person glad to hear that most of the charges were dropped :)

Thanks Phil! I know I'm pretty lucky!! Not as sweet of a deal as you got but I could have been taken to the cleaners on this as I was five days into my license when I got this!

Whatever that man said worked. Yay for everything.

[Cardinal Fang]

So after everything was said and done my new charge is "failing to merge into the left lane to avoid a collision" and it's a 2 demerit point offence and a $110 fine which I have 90 days to pay.



This obviously doesn't include the Fee the paralegal will charge you. Glad to hear things worked out for you and that is was worth it in the end.

[Thrizzl3]

Thanks Phil! I know I'm pretty lucky!! Not as sweet of a deal as you got but I could have been taken to the cleaners on this as I was five days into my license when I got this!

Whatever that man said worked. Yay for everything.

well its gonna be harder to get into the police force since im going to have this speeding conviction on my record. i hope it doesn't create a barrier that stops me from fulfilling my dream to become officer phil:chuckle

[She_Prime]

This obviously doesn't include the Fee the paralegal will charge you. Glad to hear things worked out for you and that is was worth it in the end.

well I had to prepay his fee otherwise he wouldn't have worked on my case/ appeared for me yesterday. That was a cool 450 dollars.

But in the end it's worth it. I may be paying $560 instead of $325 but the insurance savings and the lesser demerit points will make my life a hell of a lot easier in the long run.

Thanks Cardi!

[jaimie08mazda3]

grrr. i went to points too. they dropped it from a 35 to a 29. one point and 77$ OOOOH i still got 3 points on my g-2 licence bah

[She_Prime]

well its gonna be harder to get into the police force since im going to have this speeding conviction on my record. i hope it doesn't create a barrier that stops me from fulfilling my dream to become officer phil:chuckle

I don't think it will. Just show remorse and prove to them how awesome of a cop you really can be.

Plus if you're good for the next year that will be brownie points since you can argue it was before you got into police school etc.

You'll be fine Phil :)

[swales]

I face the judge and he drops my fine to $200 and no points im like good and i have 90 days to pay it.



You lucky SOB. I got nabbed for going 50 over (which I know I wasn't) because I avoided having an accident on a single lane highway when an asshat just pulled off the shoulder with no indication or nothing and my choices were to either rear-end him or hit the gas and do a safe pass (a blind hill was coming up). I was speeding when the cop clocked me but I wasn't going 50 over (more like 30). Anyways the cop right away told me she was impounding my car which she did and took my license away for 7 days. The best part was I was out of town visiting the wife's family so my car was now impounded 4 hours away from home and we had to take a bus back home. So far I've had 4 meetings with the Crown, which has been a total waste of time, and they don't want to offer a resolution and want to see me get the full charges of Stunt Driving so my day in front of the judge is next month. What really pisses me off is the cop wouldn't show me the radar gun (which she doesn't have to but I think with serious charges like this they should) and she lied several times on the Police report but there's nothing I can do about it as it's her word vs mine.

[Thrizzl3]

You lucky SOB. I got nabbed for going 50 over (which I know I wasn't) because I avoided having an accident on a single lane highway when an asshat just pulled off the shoulder with no indication or nothing and my choices were to either rear-end him or hit the gas and do a safe pass (a blind hill was coming up). I was speeding when the cop clocked me but I wasn't going 50 over (more like 30). Anyways the cop right away told me she was impounding my car which she did and took my license away for 7 days. The best part was I was out of town visiting the wife's family so my car was now impounded 4 hours away from home and we had to take a bus back home. So far I've had 4 meetings with the Crown, which has been a total waste of time, and they don't want to offer a resolution and want to see me get the full charges of Stunt Driving so my day in front of the judge is next month. What really pisses me off is the cop wouldn't show me the radar gun (which she doesn't have to but I think with serious charges like this they should) and she lied several times on the Police report but there's nothing I can do about it as it's her word vs mine.

you should ask whether she had any training with the gun and whether the gun was calibrated properly or if she was wearing a hat when she pulled you over..

[DumpInfo]

Bringing the thread back to life...how many points does one start off with anyways?? Thanks in advance!

[Noisy Crow]

Bringing the thread back to life...how many points does one start off with anyways?? Thanks in advance!

Zero.

You get demerit points for various infractions. Once they are on your record they stay there for three years. When you accumluate enough points they pull you in for an interview. And if you get enough more after that they suspend your licence.

The definition of "enough" depends on what licence you have.

[DumpInfo]

Thanks dude, didn't know about that. 3 years huh? That kinda sucks got a speeding tickets a year ago so I gotta keep it on the dl

[STeeLy]

Zero.

You get demerit points for various infractions. Once they are on your record they stay there for three years. When you accumluate enough points they pull you in for an interview. And if you get enough more after that they suspend your licence.

The definition of "enough" depends on what licence you have.

Well, you can look at it one of two ways.

You start of with zero and you accumulate the points, u can accumulate up to 15 with a G or 9 with G2 before license suspension.

Or you start off with 15 if you have a G or 9 if you have a G2 and they deduct the points...

[MAZDA Kitten]

I'm revamping this thread since my ticket went to court yesterday.

[SNIP SNIP]

The car is pretty again and my mind is at ease.

Awwwww yay!!! Thats great news!!! :bana2

I got booked 36 over and I hired a lawyer. I didnt go to court but he worked his magic and had the ticket thrown out. Phew. I know how you feel. Big relief!!

[laksman91]

you should ask whether she had any training with the gun and whether the gun was calibrated properly or if she was wearing a hat when she pulled you over..

does those things make a big difference?

[Noisy Crow]

Well, you can look at it one of two ways.

You start of with zero and you accumulate the points, u can accumulate up to 15 with a G or 9 with G2 before license suspension.

Or you start off with 15 if you have a G or 9 if you have a G2 and they deduct the points...

Except for the minor fact that when you run your abstract it shows your current demerit point total, not the number of demerit points you need to lose your licence.

[She_Prime]

Awwwww yay!!! Thats great news!!! :bana2

I got booked 36 over and I hired a lawyer. I didnt go to court but he worked his magic and had the ticket thrown out. Phew. I know how you feel. Big relief!!

Thanks Agatha!

I know it's a HUGE burden off my shoulders! Now I just have to be a good girl for the next three years.

[stormin84]

i heard that speeding tickets stay on your record for 3 yrs and accidents stay on record for 6 yrs. (insurance company records)

[STeeLy]

Except for the minor fact that when you run your abstract it shows your current demerit point total, not the number of demerit points you need to lose your licence.
True enough... but honestly, who would actually go look at their own driving abstract?

[Ziploc]

I take it a no point ticking for 40$ isn't worth fighting right? I got one of those last year and payed it the next day online.

[Ziploc]

Er, it was for 10km/h over.

[GHANNAH86]

I look at my driving abstract once a year. Just to make sure the Government hasn't screwed up and added something without telling me.

[Noisy Crow]

I take it a no point ticking for 40$ isn't worth fighting right? I got one of those last year and payed it the next day online.

From your insurance companies perspective... it's a ticket. Get a couple and your insurance rates go up. A couple more and they cancel your insurance.

[Thrizzl3]

From your insurance companies perspective... it's a ticket. Get a couple and your insurance rates go up. A couple more and they cancel your insurance.

so when you get your first ticket the rates go up when you renew it or will the insurance excuse the first ticket depending on the level of the charge?