View Full Version : 5.5k cut off --- Any way to override it?
Hey guys,
Are there any accessories that override the 5.5k boost cut off? IE: Accessport
I don't see why the engine doesn't pull all the way to redline... Although I imagine it'll be harder on the engine.. (How bad could it be though, the engine is built for boost...)
SpeedBaby
02-15-2009, 12:54 AM
boost lol not Mazda engine
more like BOOM!!!
It isn't like we're creating more boost above 5.5k RPM... As long as the fuel delivery continues to happen, I don't see what danger the engine would be in?
CanadaGTO
02-15-2009, 01:18 AM
The AP is the best way to do this. The 1.03 maps do a good job at lessening the boost drop off over 5500 rpm. Have you been for a ride in a Cobb AP car yet?
Not yet unfortunately. :) What are the requirements for the 1.03 map? I'm bone stock still... IS there a 1.03 map for stock? How much harder on the engine is it? I've got 4k on the odo...
spd frk
02-15-2009, 11:55 AM
Part of the problem is the little K04 turbo we have is not large enough to deliver enough air at high RPM to feed the motor. So you see boost falling over 5500rpm. If memory serves the K04 is designed to be a wicked turbo for 1.8L motors, but is usable up to 2.3L.
Has anyone tested to see how much boost the stock engine can take? I'm not quite ready to replace the turbo yet.. Not with 3 years of warranty left :) Is there a popular replacement choice that people are running with? Something slightly larger that spools up nearly as quickly?
blackspeed3
02-15-2009, 02:10 PM
Part of the problem is the little K04 turbo we have is not large enough to deliver enough air at high RPM to feed the motor. So you see boost falling over 5500rpm. If memory serves the K04 is designed to be a wicked turbo for 1.8L motors, but is usable up to 2.3L.
The turbo is small yes but not the culprit behind no more power after 5500 rpm. Read up on the cpe flash or the pisani flash for our cars. Totally gets rid of the stock ecu bullshit.
kingpin748
02-15-2009, 02:47 PM
Part of the problem is the little K04 turbo we have is not large enough to deliver enough air at high RPM to feed the motor. So you see boost falling over 5500rpm. If memory serves the K04 is designed to be a wicked turbo for 1.8L motors, but is usable up to 2.3L.
Boost falls because the ECU closes the throttle plate after 5500rpm regardless of where the pedal is.
Look into the CP-e Full Throttle flash or the Cobb AP.
I'm really leaning towards getting an AP this summer. I noticed the CP-e flash is crazy expensive, considering it's a one time flash... Is the Cobb AP just as good? ( I mean, is their boost cut remover/WOT control just as good as CP-e's?)
ovillems3
02-15-2009, 04:37 PM
With our turbo, power will drop shortly after 6000rpm no matter what flash/tuning device you have.
But it will definately feel better than stock.
( I mean, is their boost cut remover/WOT control just as good as CP-e's?)
Well they can control it so...... you should be able to tune this yourself sooner or later.
WOT control? I dont think they have this YET?
blackspeed3
02-16-2009, 12:37 PM
boost lol not Mazda engine
more like BOOM!!!
?
kingpin748
02-16-2009, 12:54 PM
With our turbo, power will drop shortly after 6000rpm no matter what flash/tuning device you have.
But it will definately feel better than stock.
Well they can control it so...... you should be able to tune this yourself sooner or later.
WOT control? I dont think they have this YET?
That extra 800 -1000rpm makes a big differences. It will eliminate the need to shift to 5th in a 1/4 mile.
The rumour is WOT is in the works. The AP is a good device and hopefully will be better when the Access Tuner Software is release.
Fobio
02-17-2009, 09:13 AM
That extra 800 -1000rpm makes a big differences. It will eliminate the need to shift to 5th in a 1/4 mile.
The rumour is WOT is in the works. The AP is a good device and hopefully will be better when the Access Tuner Software is release.
nice to see you in these parts kingpin748 :)
wouldn't it be nice if they can also have a feature like "rev match" like in the 370Z on the AP?
I agree that the extra power to redline is VERY useful for track work.
TurboEight
02-17-2009, 12:08 PM
That extra 800 -1000rpm makes a big differences. It will eliminate the need to shift to 5th in a 1/4 mile.
The rumour is WOT is in the works. The AP is a good device and hopefully will be better when the Access Tuner Software is release.
AFIK, the tuner software is released just that no one has bought it yet.(tuners)
apparently, that what I was told by my tuner.
I wonder how the rev matching works? How does it know you're about to downshift and not upshift? Like, what if you're granny shifting in traffic, how would it determine whether it's an upshift or downshift?
Rev matching would be seriously bad ass... Although the gears are so close together that it's fairly easy to predict.
Fobio
02-17-2009, 12:59 PM
AFIK, the tuner software is released just that no one has bought it yet.(tuners)
apparently, that what I was told by my tuner.
hey man...long time! ATR is out for the RX8's and others, but not the MS3 yet...soon tho, I hope!
I wonder how the rev matching works? How does it know you're about to downshift and not upshift? Like, what if you're granny shifting in traffic, how would it determine whether it's an upshift or downshift?
Rev matching would be seriously bad ass... Although the gears are so close together that it's fairly easy to predict.
Rev matching is for those situations where you're trying to brake from 170km/h on the front straight within a short distance for a tight right hander...so you can focus on braking and steering...apparently, the 370Z's rev-match does the 2nd-to-1st shift with rev matched...and without going further, I think plenty of us MS3's have been doing that 2nd-to-1st shift lately...
Oh I can see where it's useful... even on the street... When I'm slowing down to take a left hand turn to my street, I'm only slowing from 80km/h (I slow down late just before the corner), but because the stock pedals are hard heel+toe, I find myself having to quickly blop the throttle before taking the corner, which would rock if the car would rev match for me... But my question is, how do you turn it on / off? The way you explained it, made it seem like you turn it on in rare cases... Does it reprogram something in the car to be your rev-match-enable button?
Fobio
02-17-2009, 11:49 PM
^^^ I'm only dreaming aloud =)...I wouldn't know how they'd program such a thing even if they can...on the other hand, I'm really excited that, hopefully, we can tune our own cars with the AP + ATR within this year.
I can picture a couple of dyno days later this year with a bunch of AP guys sharing TM3 tunes...:bana
Shit, I misread lol... I thought you said Cobb added a rev match feature to one of the other AP's! Damn that would be sweet. I'll settle for easy flat shifting :)
alhope34
02-19-2009, 02:31 PM
Adding a downpipe and intake will give you power to about 6000rpm with the stock tune. An intake and downpipe plus the AP is best, so you can get the stage2+ tunes. I have this set up also with the turbo inlet and BPV, my car usually holds 18.5-19psi til 6000rpm then slowly drops to 16.5-17psi at 6500rpm where I shift.
CanadaGTO
02-19-2009, 03:13 PM
The sweet spot definately seems to be with the Stage2+ maps as alhope34 says. I'm running Stage2+FMIC93 version 1.03 and get 20psi up to 6k rpm. I'm interested to see how it fairs as the weather gets warmer, at which time I might also put on a WOT box I have which has launch control and full boost shifting...... Should be a fun spring :)
kingpin748
02-19-2009, 04:57 PM
AFIK, the tuner software is released just that no one has bought it yet.(tuners)
apparently, that what I was told by my tuner.
A few people and tuners have it but it's not out for general release yet, even for tuners AFAIK.
The sweet spot definately seems to be with the Stage2+ maps as alhope34 says. I'm running Stage2+FMIC93 version 1.03 and get 20psi up to 6k rpm. I'm interested to see how it fairs as the weather gets warmer, at which time I might also put on a WOT box I have which has launch control and full boost shifting...... Should be a fun spring :)
The WOT box is a lot of fun. I hope you have a catless setup because raw fuel isn't very nice to them.
Fobio
02-19-2009, 05:03 PM
The WOT box is a lot of fun. I hope you have a catless setup because raw fuel isn't very nice to them.
Good bit of info right there. I'd press the "thanks" button if we had one.
Really good information... I didn't even know about that. How does flat shifting work exactly? How do they hold the RPMs?
Regarding the downpipe, I read on the AP forums that upgraded downpipes are the reason people's turbos start smoking on the MS3s? Apparently something with the turbo seals? Anyone know anything about this?
kingpin748
02-19-2009, 07:04 PM
Really good information... I didn't even know about that. How does flat shifting work exactly? How do they hold the RPMs?
With the WOT Box (http://www.npcompleteperformance.com/wotbox) as long as the gas pedal is pressed to the floor when you hit the clutch it limits RPM to 3000 or there abouts until you let it back up. You can then change gears let out the clutch. Makes for a faster shift and keeps up your boost. This is accomplished buy interrupting the ignition and dumps unburnt fuel into the exhaust system which can give you some killer backfires.
You can order it with launch control also. When you have the clutch and gas floored at the same time it limits RPM to whatever you set it at. All you have to do then is let out the clutch. No more balancing act between gas and clutch.
Here is a vid.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DbGQE8t2Af0
Regarding the downpipe, I read on the AP forums that upgraded downpipes are the reason people's turbos start smoking on the MS3s? Apparently something with the turbo seals? Anyone know anything about this?
It's really unknown. There has been a lot of speculation that the lack of back pressure causes the seals to go but it hasn't been proved. Another idea was the CATs were burning up the oil that did come out so when you removed them... Most people who put on DPs are pretty hard on their car. Either way there have been plenty of turbos with and without aftermarket DPs that have started to smoke. I've had a Corksport for 12000km now without an issue. Some guys have started smoking on stock everything.
Honestly though, getting a downpipe does seem to increase your chances for whatever reason.
alhope34
02-19-2009, 08:05 PM
To add to this, I've had my TurboXS DP for about 30,000kms now and I have no smoking issues. I'm at 50,500km total now. Although, I do have an 08. The 08's and newer are all supposed to have a revised version of the same turbo as the 07's, just with better seals. Anyone with a smoking '07 turbo who had their turbo replaced under warranty also have the new revised version.
mine is 08‘s and it did smoke. i got replaced with warranty.
I bit the bullet and ordered my AP today... I bought it in the US (Unfortunately it's too pricey locally :(... I should have it next week! Man I can't wait to open up 1st and 2nd gears, plus extend the RPM range... Hopefully it's everything it claims to be!
I bit the bullet and ordered my AP today... I bought it in the US (Unfortunately it's too pricey locally :(... I should have it next week! Man I can't wait to open up 1st and 2nd gears, plus extend the RPM range... Hopefully it's everything it claims to be!
if yours is stock, AP is useless.:chuckle
ovillems3
02-25-2009, 12:59 PM
^ this post is useless
if yours is stock, AP is useless.
what makes you say that?
Mazda3X2
02-25-2009, 01:01 PM
Here are the map notes for v103 on 93-94 octane fuel.
Let us know what kind of difference you get running stock with it. With this map it may translate to 9HP and 28lb/ft if their numbers are accurate.
IMO I think there are more cost effective first modifications that would allow you to take better advantage of the AP later (CAI/DP). But hey, you have one now. I was considering the same thing last fall but decided to do the other things first once I got a few opinions.
Good luck!
Calibration and Calibration Notes Updated: 02/10/09
Description: Stage1 93 v103 - Intended for an otherwise stock 2007-
2009 Mazdaspeed3 CA or Federal model vehicle with a stock or catback
exhaust and a stock intake system only. 93 or 94 octane fuel.
Boost Targets: ~18psi peak boost pressure tapering down to ~16psi by
the 6700 RPM redline, +/- 1.5psi.
Hardware Requirements: Otherwise stock vehicle with a STOCK INTAKE
SYSTEM, STOCK BLOW-OFF VALVE (BOV), and STOCK FUEL INJECTORS ONLY.
Fuel Requirement: 93 or 94 octane. If detonation is present, you
should use octane booster or switch to a calibration developed for a
lesser quality fuel, Stage1 91 v103.
Power Output: +3.5% HP / +10% lb-ft. Results may vary.
Boost Targets: ~18psi peak boost pressure tapering down to ~16psi by
the 6700 RPM redline, +/- 1.5psi. The ability for the vehicle to
achieve these targets will depend on the modifications performed to
the vehicle and the conditions of testing. If your vehicle is not
achieving or exceeding the boost targets, you may need to have the
vehicle analyzed by a professional tuning facility. Boost cut at sea
level is increased to ~20.5psi.
Revision Notes:
1.03 - Further improvements in power, modified various fuel cut limits for extreme
cold weather conditions, modified boost control so boost holds toward engine redline,
and added calibrations for 93 octane fuel.
^ this post is useless
what makes you say that?
lol...thats a joke. i know hes going to do something for his baby after he got AP.:chuckle
Here are the map notes for v103 on 93-94 octane fuel.
Let us know what kind of difference you get running stock with it. With this map it may translate to 9HP and 28lb/ft if their numbers are accurate.
IMO I think there are more cost effective first modifications that would allow you to take better advantage of the AP later (CAI/DP). But hey, you have one now. I was considering the same thing last fall but decided to do the other things first once I got a few opinions.
Good luck!
Agreed. I really wanted an AP, because it's easy to install, has lots of features, and more to come. But then someone pointed out to me, for the same price, get a CP-e downpipe, and get and instant 30 HP, 40 Tq. Penny for penny, the downpipe is a way more cost-effective mod.
Anyway, enjoy your new toy, and let us now how it feels!
ovillems3
02-26-2009, 06:41 AM
fuel/boost cut for the win.
zmtomako
02-26-2009, 11:22 AM
but doesnt getting a DP void the warranty like instantly?
and how does doing the DP, cat or catless affect the etests? i dont think any speed3s had to do it yet though right?
I was tempted to do the DP, but my car is well under warranty (5k on the odo). I'm going to do CAI and maybe exhaust to start... I've got my eyes on the DP and a FMIC, but I know they aren't very warranty friendly. Plus I'm really worried about my turbo smoking with the DP.
The reason I got the AP right away is because I hate certain driving characteristics of this car: I hate the fact boost is cut if your steering angle isn't center and I hate the power loss after 5.5-5.7k rpm... Plus I can run the 93 octane map with stock setup. These points alone are worth the price tag, even if they didn't give me any HP increase over stock.
Fobio
02-26-2009, 11:42 AM
I was tempted to do the DP, but my car is well under warranty (5k on the odo). I'm going to do CAI and maybe exhaust to start... I've got my eyes on the DP and a FMIC, but I know they aren't very warranty friendly. Plus I'm really worried about my turbo smoking with the DP.
The reason I got the AP right away is because I hate certain driving characteristics of this car: I hate the fact boost is cut if your steering angle isn't center and I hate the power loss after 5.5-5.7k rpm... Plus I can run the 93 octane map with stock setup. These points alone are worth the price tag, even if they didn't give me any HP increase over stock.
These were the exact same reasons why I got the AP to start. The car doesn't need much more powa, but to be able to refine the power delivery is key.
Mazda3X2
02-26-2009, 12:04 PM
These were the exact same reasons why I got the AP to start. The car doesn't need much more powa, but to be able to refine the power delivery is key.
I am really curious on how the car felt running the AP in otherwise stock trim. Alone was it worth the $600? Or was it only after some other supporting mods that you really noticed much?
you will need the DP,intake,turbo back for the AP, otherwise its wasting money, its just my 2 cent.
Fobio
02-26-2009, 02:42 PM
no...AP alone is not worth the $$$, but with plans for more mods, think of the AP as a multiplier...like a little bonus for your future mods...
RX9 is right...if you want powa right away, just get the hard parts, like DP + intake...but I've never taken that perspective on tuning and modding anyway.
Mazda3X2
02-27-2009, 12:35 PM
Going back to the original post;
I was under the impression that the inherant problem with our power band falling flat at around that point was possibly caused by the stock BPV not holding boost. Theroretically I know this is possible and I have seen research to suggest it is the case, but of course this was all done by companies selling BPVs. Some claiming significant gains in upper RPM range.
Any truth to this? Has someone that installed an improved BPV or BOV without an AP noticed gains above 5500?
Something I had been curious about since owning the car.
Fobio
02-27-2009, 01:21 PM
My STOCK BPV holds boost no problem. it is well known that IT IS NOT our BPV giving up after 5500rpm.
Mazda3X2
02-27-2009, 01:25 PM
My BPV holds boost no prblem. it is well known that IT IS NOT our BPV giving up after 5500rpm.
Good to know. You do mean your stock BPV right?
Fobio
02-27-2009, 02:20 PM
Good to know. You do mean your stock BPV right?
yes
alhope34
02-28-2009, 01:39 AM
It is not BPV... my Forge made little to no difference at all without a tune. But once you start adding more boost you will need a BPV that can handle the extra boost you are giving it. Obviously the stock BPV was only designed and tested for stock boost levels. If anything, the stock BPV spring feels almost as stiff as the stiffest spring that comes with the Forge. At least it feels that way to me. I believe it has been proven with the AP and other tunes that the problem lies purely in the stock tune closing the throttle plate and not letting the driver actually drive the car, thinking you don't need all that top end power.
If I don't make any sense, sorry, I'm a little drunk right now lol.
flyinb22
02-28-2009, 10:55 AM
If I don't make any sense, sorry, I'm a little drunk right now lol.
LOL...Drunk posting...good stuff. It was still a sensible post!
alhope34
02-28-2009, 10:58 AM
LOL...Drunk posting...good stuff. It was still a sensible post!
Lol, thanks. I proof read it like 10 times to make sure I made the most sense I could after a 26 of vanilla Smirnoff. :chuckle
Mazda3X2
02-28-2009, 02:19 PM
Good stuff. I was thinking about getting another BPV this year but won't now. Seems it would be a waste with what I have....for now.
Thanks guys.
Lol, thanks. I proof read it like 10 times to make sure I made the most sense I could after a 26 of vanilla Smirnoff. :chuckle
dude, you can drink. i will be all over the floor looking for my wedding bent after just couple of them. lol.....
alhope34
02-28-2009, 10:12 PM
dude, you can drink. i will be all over the floor looking for my wedding bent after just couple of them. lol.....
Lol, maybe it's the Irish in me.
I just got back from the US and installed my AP tonight.. MAN WHAT A DIFFERENCE. I don't know what you guys are talking about --- It's DEFINITELY worth the price tag, even for a stock car. Okay, I know there are cheaper mods that give you better results, but I can't think of any that make the car THIS MUCH fun to drive... It completely woke the car up. I actually enjoy driving it again :P Boost is right in your face as soon as you get on it and it makes downshifting into high RPM + punching it, fun again.
I'm only on v1.02.. Can't wait to try 1.03 tomorrow! and maybe the 93 Octane maps when my car gets back from the shop next week...
ovillems3
03-05-2009, 06:22 AM
Just to be able to datalog and watch the boost and fuel pressure etc.., makes this better than intake and downpipe for a first mod.
If I was to do it again, intake and AP, thats it(mabye an intercooler to)
The 103's are better.
Mazda3X2
03-05-2009, 07:05 AM
Good to hear. You've got me re-thinking my summer mod plans now...lol.
I just got back from the US and installed my AP tonight.. MAN WHAT A DIFFERENCE. I don't know what you guys are talking about --- It's DEFINITELY worth the price tag, even for a stock car. Okay, I know there are cheaper mods that give you better results, but I can't think of any that make the car THIS MUCH fun to drive... It completely woke the car up. I actually enjoy driving it again :P Boost is right in your face as soon as you get on it and it makes downshifting into high RPM + punching it, fun again.
I'm only on v1.02.. Can't wait to try 1.03 tomorrow! and maybe the 93 Octane maps when my car gets back from the shop next week...
flyinb22
03-05-2009, 11:21 AM
Good to hear. You've got me re-thinking my summer mod plans now...lol.
Don't do it Barry....Your purchases end up costing ME money. "Keeping up with the Jones'....." LOL!!!!
Fobio
03-05-2009, 11:33 AM
cj...get on those 1.03 maps right away!...if 1.02 knocked your socks off, hang on to your shorts for 1.03...:bana
I just threw on 103 and I'm loving it... The car feels great! I can't wait to take the twisties through the Pearson Airport "short cut" :chuckle
Since I just refuelled, I'm actually tempted to just jump to 93 103 maps... Anyone have trouble with it? Think I'll have any issues with Sunoco 94? Don't want any detonation or other crazy stuff...
alhope34
03-05-2009, 04:36 PM
I just threw on 103 and I'm loving it... The car feels great! I can't wait to take the twisties through the Pearson Airport "short cut" :chuckle
Since I just refuelled, I'm actually tempted to just jump to 93 103 maps... Anyone have trouble with it? Think I'll have any issues with Sunoco 94? Don't want any detonation or other crazy stuff...
No problem here, running 93 tune since December. 93 v103 maps pull like a mofo.
Hey gang,
I noticed a 'bug' with my car since I flashed with the AP firmware. My 1st preset radio station on my Sirius SAT radio always returns 'INVALID CHANNEL' whenever I program a station onto button '1'. No matter what channel... Other channels work fine. Anyone have this problem?
One other thing, I noticed when running Stock 91 103 maps my peak boost was 19.X psi, but right now I'm hitting 18.9 psi on the 93 103 maps... I only filled it up yesterday and I threw on the 93 map today... I'm assuming the car is still learning and it'll take a few refuels... Is this normal tho?
Also, anyone have problems with the turbo surging in 2nd gear? It's hard to explain, I'll be holding the pedal steady and the car just picks up crazy power for no reason... I'm not complaining, just wondering if that's a normal thing ;) Doesn't happen very often and it isn't uncontrollable or anything, but does make cornering interesting if I'm not careful...
1.most of us dont have the sirius, cant help. lol...
2.thats normal.
3.seems you will get more mod soon.
Fobio
03-06-2009, 09:35 PM
Also, anyone have problems with the turbo surging in 2nd gear? It's hard to explain, I'll be holding the pedal steady and the car just picks up crazy power for no reason... I'm not complaining, just wondering if that's a normal thing ;) Doesn't happen very often and it isn't uncontrollable or anything, but does make cornering interesting if I'm not careful...
Don't be afraid of the fast bro!
When you flash 1.03, it's a completely different animal than with 1.02...best way to get used to it is to do 50% throttle on a open road just let it sit at 50% until you hit red line...THAT'S POWA. You'll get used to it in a couple weeks...when we first got 1.03, I felt the same way too, but you'll get used it. :bana
Big Dad
03-07-2009, 12:55 AM
Cobb removes the second and third gear restrictions so you are fealing turbo spool without tech interference. Mazda puts those restrictions on so that the layman and magazine testers don't have something to complain about.
LOL @ "Don't be afraid of the fast" That's hilarious... And this must be the first car I've owned where I had to ask if it being 'too fast' was normal lol... What a great problem to have!
Regarding my peak boost question, apparently I wasn't opening up the car enough ;) I "scored" a 21.3 psi on the way home... I can't wait to get my summer rubber on.
BTW Anyone know of a place to get a MS CAI locally?
Mazda3X2
03-07-2009, 08:21 PM
I "scored" a 21.3 psi on the way home...
What are your boost numbers like now? Peak, max continuous, and after 5500.
What are your boost numbers like now? Peak, max continuous, and after 5500.
I'll have to log it tomorrow --- Right now my AP sits on the passenger seat because I haven't figured out where to mount it yet... So I don't have a clear view of the numbers.
I was pulling up some logs and I wasn't really pushing the car that hard after 5.5k... But:
Throttle pos: 99.06% 5190 rpm 17.55 psi
pos: 99.06% 5330 rpm 16.32 psi
pos: 79.17% 5832 rpm 15.52 psi
pos: 11.7% 6488 rpm 6.82 psi
swales
03-09-2009, 09:04 AM
Hey gang,
I noticed a 'bug' with my car since I flashed with the AP firmware. My 1st preset radio station on my Sirius SAT radio always returns 'INVALID CHANNEL' whenever I program a station onto button '1'. No matter what channel... Other channels work fine. Anyone have this problem?
That's a normal problem and nothing to do with the AP. Sirius did an update so you need to reset your radio by pulling the fuse, waiting 5min (if you don't wait at least this long it won't work...I found out first hand) and then re-insert it and you'll be good to go. Mazda sent out a letter regarding this
So I got my car back on Tuesday and re-installed the 93 map on Wednesday (I didn't want to leave it on while it was with Mazda... I thought about installing the Valet mode tho! lol)
anyway, I've noticed that the car acts really weird when accelerating right after shifting gears. It's really hard to explain. It's only present on 2nd and 3rd gears, but it feels like if I don't fully release the clutch and keep it at around 60-70% released the car will pick up speed like crazy and then when I release it 100% it bogs down... ?? Sort of a hesitation. At one point I could have sworn that it also cut fuel to the engine at around 4000-5000 rpm because my RPMs dropped to about 3000 shortly after shifting.
I find it weird that the car will bog down like that... The way around it is to slowly release the clutch between shifts. Maybe the MS3 clutch is far more aggressive than what I'm used to. I don't 'pop the clutch' in between shifts... but I also don't release it like a granny...
Is it possible that the car is just learning the 93 map? (I had it back on stock map up until Tuesday). Although I've probably put about 600 km on the car since Wednesday...
Car pulls hard although sometimes it feels like it's losing boost at about 4800-5000 rpm because it doesn't pull all the way to red line... I'm taking the AP with me tomorrow and will log everything. I realize none of this helps... Just wondering if people have run into this before.
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