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JenSonEliCal
03-02-2009, 11:29 AM
Recommendations please!! :)

MistaChin
03-02-2009, 11:45 AM
I'm pretty sure there are tons of threads that cover this kind of topic. Use the search tool at the top.

But im gonna be installing a MazdaSpeed CAI this weekend. It's a Mazda part and plus it has the splash guard to help against water and hydrolocking

JohnyGT
03-02-2009, 11:54 AM
I'm pretty sure there are tons of threads that cover this kind of topic. Use the search tool at the top.

But im gonna be installing a MazdaSpeed CAI this weekend. It's a Mazda part and plus it has the splash guard to help against water and hydrolocking

+1 for mazdaspeed one, for splash guard.

tweak_s
03-02-2009, 11:55 AM
Also wanted to note that if you're not going to go for the MS-CAI, for most intakes you could still get the hydro shield (that is like a sock) to put over the intake as well if I'm not mistaken.

JenSonEliCal
03-02-2009, 02:00 PM
Thanks guys! What do you think about the AEM CAI??

JamesDL
03-02-2009, 02:15 PM
They MS CAI is made by AEM

STeeLy
03-02-2009, 02:34 PM
MS CAI is exactly the same as the AEM CAI. I believe someone mentioned the part numbers are identical.

JenSonEliCal
03-02-2009, 08:03 PM
Cool! I'm a real newb...so here's another question...what are the advantages/disadvantages of having a CAI installed??

mit-gee-mui
03-02-2009, 08:07 PM
http://www.torontomazda3.ca/forum/showpost.php?p=275627&postcount=2
Does that help? Might as well put it to use.:chuckle

STeeLy
03-03-2009, 11:29 AM
Of course MGM comes to the rescue! You really make things easier... LOL

Advantage: It sounds great! A FEW (very few) extra horses and a slight (very slight) improvement in fuel economy.

Disadvantage: You will want to hear it so much that you will just stomp on the pedal and hold it, which causes it to use more gas.

JordanAndrew
03-03-2009, 01:56 PM
+1 for mazdaspeed CAI, I will be installing one this spring time. I'm just waiting for this winter to end. hehe!

JenSonEliCal
03-03-2009, 03:45 PM
Ok...thanks for all the help! I went with the MS CAI...will be installing it this Friday!! :)

boost123
03-03-2009, 05:02 PM
you should get a PRM. ill be getting one soon once i get my paycheque and plus some people on this board recommend it too and its impossible to get hydrolock

mit-gee-mui
03-03-2009, 05:43 PM
Added PRM intake info for people that ask in the future. :) (I miss my edit button.)
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http://www.torontomazda3.ca/forum/showthread.php?t=18894&highlight=injen+aem (http://www.torontomazda3.ca/forum/showthread.php?t=18894&highlight=injen+aem)
This thread compares AEM, Injen, Fujita and Mazdaspeed CAIs in terms of performance and sound. There are also a few prices in this thread, but they may not be accurate since the thread is around a year old.

http://www.torontomazda3.ca/forum/showthread.php?t=18829&highlight=injen+aem (http://www.torontomazda3.ca/forum/showthread.php?t=18829&highlight=injen+aem)
This one talks about pricing, but once again, it is a bit out-dated. The sponsors and/other members will probably have to chime in to give an update on their latest pricing.

http://www.torontomazda3.ca/forum/showthread.php?t=16753&highlight=cai+performance (http://www.torontomazda3.ca/forum/showthread.php?t=16753&highlight=cai+performance)
Performance/Dyno results from a member with the Fujita CAI. This link also includes a sound clip. (I have not checked to see if it works.)

http://www.torontomazda3.ca/forum/showpost.php?p=360977&postcount=57
Performance/Dyno results for the PRM CAI.

http://www.torontomazda3.ca/forum/showthread.php?t=17146&highlight=injen+aem (http://www.torontomazda3.ca/forum/showthread.php?t=17146&highlight=injen+aem)
This thread talks about which CAIs have a hydroshield.

http://www.torontomazda3.ca/forum/showpost.php?p=183517&postcount=1 (http://www.torontomazda3.ca/forum/showpost.php?p=183517&postcount=1)
http://www.torontomazda3.ca/forum/showpost.php?p=185773&postcount=1 (http://www.torontomazda3.ca/forum/showpost.php?p=185773&postcount=1)
http://www.torontomazda3.ca/forum/showpost.php?p=101271&postcount=1 (http://www.torontomazda3.ca/forum/showpost.php?p=101271&postcount=1)
This is how the Injen CAI looks.

http://www.torontomazda3.ca/forum/showpost.php?p=23465&postcount=11 (http://www.torontomazda3.ca/forum/showpost.php?p=23465&postcount=11)
This is how the AEM CAI looks.

http://www.torontomazda3.ca/forum/showpost.php?p=234131&postcount=1 (http://www.torontomazda3.ca/forum/showpost.php?p=234131&postcount=1)
http://www.torontomazda3.ca/forum/showpost.php?p=151384&postcount=1 (http://www.torontomazda3.ca/forum/showpost.php?p=151384&postcount=1)
http://www.torontomazda3.ca/forum/showpost.php?p=106713&postcount=1 (http://www.torontomazda3.ca/forum/showpost.php?p=106713&postcount=1)
This is how the MS CAI looks.

http://www.torontomazda3.ca/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=311&d=1180835935 (http://www.torontomazda3.ca/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=311&d=1180835935)
http://www.torontomazda3.ca/forum/showpost.php?p=17670&postcount=2 (http://www.torontomazda3.ca/forum/showpost.php?p=17670&postcount=2)
This is how the K&N CAI looks.

http://www.torontomazda3.ca/forum/showthread.php?t=21285&highlight=cai (http://www.torontomazda3.ca/forum/showthread.php?t=21285&highlight=cai)
http://www.torontomazda3.ca/forum/showpost.php?p=248811&postcount=1 (http://www.torontomazda3.ca/forum/showpost.php?p=248811&postcount=1)
This is how the Fujita CAI looks.

http://www.torontomazda3.ca/forum/showpost.php?p=236212&postcount=1 (http://www.torontomazda3.ca/forum/showpost.php?p=236212&postcount=1)
This is how the F2 CAI looks. Pardon my Girlfriend please.:chuckle:hawt:hawt

http://www.torontomazda3.ca/forum/showthread.php?t=8872&highlight=cai+performance (http://www.torontomazda3.ca/forum/showthread.php?t=8872&highlight=cai+performance)
This is how the Umnitza CAI looks. There is also more information about this product in the link.

http://www.torontomazda3.ca/forum/showthread.php?t=8256&highlight=dyno+cai (http://www.torontomazda3.ca/forum/showthread.php?t=8256&highlight=dyno+cai)
This is how the Autoexe CAI looks. There is also more information about this product in the link.

http://i419.photobucket.com/albums/pp273/prm_04/mx-3pics014.jpg
http://i419.photobucket.com/albums/pp273/prm_04/yarispics006.jpg
http://www.torontomazda3.ca/forum/showpost.php?p=372697&postcount=61
This is how the PRM CAI looks.

http://www.torontomazda3.ca/forum/showpost.php?p=17198&postcount=1 (http://www.torontomazda3.ca/forum/showpost.php?p=17198&postcount=1)
There is a link for a sound clip for the Injen CAI here. I have not tried it, so I am not sure if the link is dead.

http://www.torontomazda3.ca/forum/showpost.php?p=205208&postcount=1 (http://www.torontomazda3.ca/forum/showpost.php?p=205208&postcount=1)
This link contains a sound clip for the Fujita CAI. I am not sure if it still works, cause I was not able to view it.

http://www.torontomazda3.ca/forum/showthread.php?t=30415&highlight=prm
Here are some member reviews for the PRM CAI.

http://www.torontomazda3.ca/forum/showthread.php?t=18977&highlight=injen+aem (http://www.torontomazda3.ca/forum/showthread.php?t=18977&highlight=injen+aem)
This one shows a poll so that you can see what CAI the majority of members are using. In this case, MS.

http://www.torontomazda3.ca/forum/showthread.php?t=18436&highlight=cai+ultimate (http://www.torontomazda3.ca/forum/showthread.php?t=18436&highlight=cai+ultimate)
And just to lighten the mood, click here for the ultimate CAI.:chuckle




:)

vlad5434
03-03-2009, 10:27 PM
am going to be getting a k & m CAI soon hopefully before summer its only 300 some bucks get it in chrome or red, and it gives like 5.5 hp to the car not much but its nice looking.

Nova 3 GT
03-04-2009, 09:19 AM
The only bad part of the MS CAI is that it has a nipple sticking out on the filter. I haven't put a sock over it but it may interfere while putting one on it....

Greg_di
03-04-2009, 09:39 PM
go with the PRM cai and you wont be dissapointed. Amazing sound!

Greg_di
03-04-2009, 09:41 PM
sorry forgot link

http://www.prmracing.com/

Hives
03-04-2009, 11:59 PM
hard topic. Just buy what makes u happy :)

Hives
03-05-2009, 12:12 AM
sorry forgot link

http://www.prmracing.com/

After reading up, this seems like the greatest intake known to man

Gizzmo_jr
03-05-2009, 12:57 AM
I like my K&N for its SRI and CAI abilities.

S.F.W.
03-05-2009, 01:43 AM
After reading up, this seems like the greatest intake known to man
it's a pretty good intake. Because it sits higher, and doesn't bend down towards the wheel wll, you don't need a splash guard. As well, the sound and performance gains are pretty nice.

JenSonEliCal
03-05-2009, 09:15 AM
As far as the intake goes...I've already gone with the MS, hopefully it's as good as everyone says it is! As far as the benefits for having an intake goes...still unclear...

Some say not much additional HP and so, so gas mileage...some say different...what is it??

Gizzmo_jr
03-05-2009, 09:24 AM
Theory vs Reality. They want to believe they're purchase made significant changes in power and what not, but in reality the intake is only a part of the equation. Think of it like this, in order to properly draw more air into the engine, you should allow it to come out freely as well, implying some exhaust modifications should be in order. My 0.02.

STeeLy
03-05-2009, 10:15 AM
Basically... my real take on it is... forget the dyno charts, forget the gas mileage differences... just go with which sound you like best... if you do JUST an intake, doesn't make that much of a diff in HP or Fuel Economy...

(Basically, that's how I went with mine)

JenSonEliCal
03-05-2009, 03:42 PM
Basically... my real take on it is... forget the dyno charts, forget the gas mileage differences... just go with which sound you like best... if you do JUST an intake, doesn't make that much of a diff in HP or Fuel Economy...

(Basically, that's how I went with mine)

So really...the air intake is just for the sound??? no improvement on performance, gas mileage, engine life???

kevcol74
03-05-2009, 04:47 PM
Do your research on this, different companies claim different gains. K&N for instance shows you recorded gains on their systems (typhoon).... Generally they do improve, but how much can vary.

mit-gee-mui
03-05-2009, 04:47 PM
So really...the air intake is just for the sound??? no improvement on performance, gas mileage, engine life???

http://www.torontomazda3.ca/forum/showthread.php?t=23216&highlight=point+intake

Not much here.

vlad5434
03-06-2009, 07:27 PM
try looking it up on youtube and check the sounds out and see what makes u happy look at the warranty and all that but the prm sounds nice to me gotta check it out

Donutz
03-06-2009, 07:53 PM
So really...the air intake is just for the sound??? no improvement on performance, gas mileage, engine life???

The answer can be found here clicky (http://www.torontomazda3.ca/forum/search.php) :)

What he is saying is that there isn't too much difference between CAI's; not that there isn't performance / gas mileage improvements to be had. Companies have different claims about their products.

STeeLy
03-06-2009, 08:48 PM
The answer can be found here clicky (http://www.torontomazda3.ca/forum/search.php) :)

What he is saying is that there isn't too much difference between CAI's; not that there isn't performance / gas mileage improvements to be had. Companies have different claims about their products.

Exactly what you said Jason. You gain some performance and mileage, but not a lot... and the gains you get from different intakes are very similar.

yearoftherat
03-07-2009, 09:00 AM
You may want to look at a SRI too.

Tuner Performance Reports did a SRI vs CAI and the report speaks for itself:

http://www.tprmag.com/issue/1/1_intakes.shtml

I've had both SRI and CAI in my car and here's my take on the SRI vs CAI debate:
The SRI is better at low to mid range power. Better throttle response at lower RPMs.
The CAI is better at higher end.
The SRI can be subjected to heat soak since its getting warm air from the engine compartment.
The CAI can be subject to hydrolocking.
The CAI can be restrictive due to all the bends in the tubing.
It does get cold air which is more dense thereby giving you a better air-fuel mixture.
The SRI sounds great when you accelerate. With the CAI I can't really tell since my exhaust is louder.
Gas mileage? IMHO I didn't notice a difference between the two intakes.

Both have their pros and cons. Its up to you what you decide to go with. I loved my Simota SRI when I had it. Now I'm running a MS CAI and have no compliants.
Hope this helps.

SSmoked
03-07-2009, 04:29 PM
honestly i would suggest the PRM CAI. its got the size of a SRI but everything else like a CAI. its got a evil growl after 2.5k rpm. highly suggest it and the price is 200$ flat witch is amazing. iv been running mine for a month and a bit so far and love it with zero complaints it has seen snow, rain, fog and has had zero problems.

yearoftherat
03-07-2009, 06:49 PM
The PRM is an interesting concept. I'd like to see a dyno comparison against other intakes.

x_o_k_x
03-07-2009, 07:22 PM
Yeah, except SRI heat soak would kill cars performance in the summer during heat waves.

yearoftherat
03-07-2009, 10:50 PM
When I did have the Simota, I did notice that when it was really hot outside, my car would hesitate a bit when accelerating.

Hives
03-08-2009, 12:09 AM
You do not see significant gains with an intake with the Mazda 3, unless you have a car with a bigger motor (ex 350z motor), then you see gains the the 15+hp range, and really feel it. Same with CBE.

I think im still gonna do it though, im not sure why lolll

STeeLy
03-09-2009, 12:31 PM
You do not see significant gains with an intake with the Mazda 3, unless you have a car with a bigger motor (ex 350z motor), then you see gains the the 15+hp range, and really feel it. Same with CBE.

I think im still gonna do it though, im not sure why lolll

Because it just makes it sound SO MUCH better :chuckle

JenSonEliCal
03-09-2009, 12:40 PM
Would changing the headers and exhaust improve perfomance along with the CAI?

Donutz
03-09-2009, 01:33 PM
Header (no 's'). Yes, comparing i/h/e to just an intake, you will see significant increase in performance.

Use the forum search engine and search this topic as it has been covered by a few people in pretty good detail. There is a lot of info about this topic on m3f.

vlad5434
03-16-2009, 01:35 PM
This is the Weapon-R Dragon only 100 some dollers or 200 tops looks nice you can change colors and what not heres a pic of it.
http://www.eracingworks.com/images/P/dragon-265.jpg

Zoom Zoom Boy
03-20-2009, 11:24 AM
Based on the dyno numbers I saw posted and feedback from the few that have it, I would take a really long look at the PRM intake. Looks like an SRI, but has nice linear power gains like a CAI and almost zero chance of hydro lock.

Was going to put one in the wife's MZ3, but she was adamant that I not do this. I am hoping they develop one for the MS3.

Tim

Zoom Zoom Boy
03-20-2009, 11:25 AM
Would changing the headers and exhaust improve perfomance along with the CAI?

Yes. Or, you could just go buy an MS3 instead which will still have more power than any combination of mods you will add to your MZ3.

x_o_k_x
03-20-2009, 12:05 PM
Injen Intake, so far is the best intake with most gains, followed by AEM and Fujita

jetstreamer
03-20-2009, 01:35 PM
we have 10 kits avaiable for our 2nd group buy @ $220.00 each.
if your interested give us a call.
our kits are a SRI but draw ambient air like a CAI. safely!!!


if your interested give us a call.
prmracing.com
prm@look.ca
905-939-2830
Gerry

Zoom Zoom Boy
03-20-2009, 04:37 PM
Injen Intake, so far is the best intake with most gains, followed by AEM and Fujita

Curious, what are the 'generic' gains for each of these intakes with the MZ3? Can you post them up, please? I'd love to see the dyno results and graphs so that I can compare them.

Nextmod
03-21-2009, 05:47 PM
I can get the Fujita, Injen or AEM

Fujita has the best price right now

Injen and AEM is a little expensive lol

Donutz
03-21-2009, 07:04 PM
we have 10 kits avaiable for our 2nd group buy @ $220.00 each.
if your interested give us a call.
our kits are a SRI but draw ambient air like a CAI. safely!!!


if your interested give us a call.
prmracing.com
prm@look.ca
905-939-2830
Gerry

I heard you have a vid of this thing on the dyno. True or false? Can you please post it on the forum?

jetstreamer
03-21-2009, 09:25 PM
sorry we didn't get a chance to video the dyno run.

S.F.W.
03-21-2009, 10:30 PM
I heard you have a vid of this thing on the dyno. True or false? Can you please post it on the forum?
There was no video, but I believe Gerry has sound clips,a nd you have seen the dyno sheet posted. I was at the dyno session, and have a PRM intake on myc ar if you want to listen or see it in person.

x_o_k_x
03-22-2009, 12:46 AM
Curious, what are the 'generic' gains for each of these intakes with the MZ3? Can you post them up, please? I'd love to see the dyno results and graphs so that I can compare them.

Just do a search, Injen gains 11.7hp, AEM ~8hp, Fujita ~7hp