PDA

View Full Version : Motorist Pulled Over For Allegedly Driving At 250 km/h



HappyJappy
03-03-2009, 09:06 AM
Hmm, aren't they suppose to make this car into a cubicle for going over 150? :loco


"A driver has been charged with excessive speed after he was allegedly clocked going an astounding 250 km/h.

OPP officers pulled the man over on Highway 400 south of Finch Ave. One constable had apparently set up a stationary laser enforcement device when the Infiniti blew by him. A second officer then managed to pull the vehicle over despite the high velocity.

"I haven't been around here too long, but I've never heard of a speed this high," OPP Const. Scott Mulville observed, describing the vehicle as a high performance sports car.

"We have a few 'over 50s' obviously but nothing in the range of 250 (km/h) so no. It's a pretty fast driver."

The motorist loses his wheels for seven days and faces a fine of $2000. He's due in court in April.

He's charged with excessive speed, which equates to six demerit points."

SSmoked
03-03-2009, 09:14 AM
i thought all jap cars were electronicly governd? non the less that insane speed

bubba1983
03-03-2009, 09:22 AM
u would think at that speed you would get charged with reckless,m rather excessive speed lol

swales
03-03-2009, 09:26 AM
Isn't he suppose to be charged with Stunt Driving? The excessive speeding ticket isn't as bad.

dentinger
03-03-2009, 09:26 AM
i heard it was a modded G35, and the guy is facing $2000-$10,000 in fines.


*edit*
only 6 points?! what the hell? that guy should be lucky.
i got 6 points/30 day suspension/$325 fine for rolling my parents truck. (altho i got it knocked down to a much lesser fine)

Thrizzl3
03-03-2009, 09:38 AM
150 over? same ticket i got except i was doing 50 over. i got an automatic court date but i didnt get my car impounded and i still had to pay a fine of $200 which was knocked down from $526 and 4 points

tweak_s
03-03-2009, 09:42 AM
I love how people who speed 150 gets the same punishment as the people who speed 250...

Might as well go the whole way, LOL.


That guys an ass though, I haven't heard anyhting about it being modded but i would assume it is as .. .I know a G35 is a fast car but does it not have a speed limiter stock?

Mazda3X2
03-03-2009, 10:15 AM
I love how people who speed 150 gets the same punishment as the people who speed 250...

Might as well go the whole way, LOL.


That guys an ass though, I haven't heard anyhting about it being modded but i would assume it is as .. .I know a G35 is a fast car but does it not have a speed limiter stock?

250km/h is only about 156mph. The MS3 is even limited to 155mph so I would think the G35 would be capable of this as well.

bhrm
03-03-2009, 11:51 AM
250km/h is only about 156mph. The MS3 is even limited to 155mph so I would think the G35 would be capable of this as well.

All Canadian cars are limited to 200-220km. Unless its been chipped and removed.

However it just means fuel/throttle gets cut off.

kevcol74
03-03-2009, 11:56 AM
All Canadian cars are limited to 200-220km. Unless its been chipped and removed.

However it just means fuel/throttle gets cut off.


What year did that start? My 86 Mustang was limited to 200, but that was only due to being a convertible. The Hatchbacks were 240. And I know for a fact my brother's stock 97 Cobra went 260... I was behind the wheel! (alone at 3am on a distant back road, not a 400 series highway, I was young...lol)

Did they implement this recently?

Fobio
03-03-2009, 11:59 AM
What year did that start? My 86 Mustang was limited to 200, but that was only due to being a convertible. The Hatchbacks were 240. And I know for a fact my brother's stock 97 Cobra went 280... I was behind the wheel! (alone at 3am on a distant back road, not a 400 series highway, I was young...lol)

Did they implement this recently?

Oh...you mean the 407 before they started charging?...lol...

Cardinal Fang
03-03-2009, 12:01 PM
Hmm, aren't they suppose to make this car into a cubicle for going over 150? :loco


"A driver has been charged with excessive speed after he was allegedly clocked going an astounding 250 km/h.

"

I don't know of a more effective way to illustrate to people that you're are unmistakeably a farking moron of the greatest type than doing something so unbelievably stupid as speeding at this rate of speed.

Please tell me there is because I can't figure it out. I'd love to hear what he tells the judge to get his license back.

kevcol74
03-03-2009, 12:01 PM
Oh...you mean the 407 before they started charging?...lol...

lol Nope, out in the boonies southeast of London, right along Lake Erie....

Mazda3X2
03-03-2009, 12:02 PM
All Canadian cars are limited to 200-220km. Unless its been chipped and removed.

However it just means fuel/throttle gets cut off.

A quote from Canadian Driver for you to peruse on the MS3. I have never heard of such a limit being impossed on Canadian cars.


The result is a car that’ll make zero to 100 km/hr in 6.1 seconds, with an electronically-limited top speed of 250 km/h, but is comfortable enough for everyday driving.

Mazda3X2
03-03-2009, 12:27 PM
Just a peak into how the G35 forums are viewing it.

http://g35driver.com/forums/canada/274483-g35-picked-up-doing-250-km-h.html

Unoriginalusername
03-03-2009, 01:23 PM
how on earth did they pull him over, i thought they weren't allowed to do high speed pursuits?

Cardinal Fang
03-03-2009, 01:23 PM
Just a peak into how the G35 forums are viewing it.

http://g35driver.com/forums/canada/274483-g35-picked-up-doing-250-km-h.html

Great. They think he's a fark-wad too.

-RJ3-
03-03-2009, 01:36 PM
Thank you G35 driver mofo!! (This guys watches too much fandf.... Thinking he can outrace a cop car)

I thought this crap was over with, and now cops will again toughen up this law.

IMO he wanted to get caught.... Theres no chance in he11 he thought he can get away with it.

-RJ3-
03-03-2009, 01:37 PM
how on earth did they pull him over, i thought they weren't allowed to do high speed pursuits?

My guess is they used the eye in the sky and called in advanced a cruiser.

Mazda3X2
03-03-2009, 01:44 PM
In the news report it said;


An officer with a laser speed detector clocked the vehicle at one point on the highway, then called two more officers further up the roadway to activate their sirens and lights and pull the vehicle over.

swales
03-03-2009, 01:46 PM
I thought this crap was over with, and now cops will again toughen up this law.



You're kidding right? They catch dozens of cars under the Stunt Driving/Street Racing law every week on the 400 series highways.

-RJ3-
03-03-2009, 01:50 PM
You're kidding right? They catch dozens of cars under the Stunt Driving/Street Racing law every week on the 400 series highways.

I guess its a normal occurence, that the speed he was going has caught the attention to media.

Yes Im aware of this Sunt Driving/ Street racing law, but these are people with non modified cars. Some just joy riding.

From reading posts the G35 was heavily modified.

mleblond
03-03-2009, 01:52 PM
damn street racers again, blame everything on street racing.

5_Alive
03-03-2009, 01:54 PM
Sucks to be him..

swales
03-03-2009, 01:58 PM
I guess its a normal occurence, that the speed he was going has caught the attention to media.

.

Exactly and the police/parliament members love these cases since they do make a good news story and they can say "see it is "street racers" causing all the problems and we need to keep up our biggest money maker...oh wait we mean our make the street saver law"

-RJ3-
03-03-2009, 02:04 PM
Still I dont think its fair especially us car enthusiasts to be classified as "Street Racers"

BTW Are you promoting street racing? Your avatar is telling me something LOL!

swales
03-03-2009, 02:10 PM
^hahaha...not at all but I'm against people who get caught speeding to be charged under the "Stunt Driving" law. Yes if you go crazy speeds like this guy you should have to pay a crazy fine and get your license suspended but you should also get your day in court before being found guilty.

-RJ3-
03-03-2009, 02:12 PM
LOL what is his excuse? "Sorry officer the Gas pedal sticked" or, "The car came out of the dealership like that.... The manual said: You have to go over 200KM/H to work it in..."

swales
03-03-2009, 02:28 PM
Well really there's no excuse for speeding like this guy (or any speeding really) but there are times the Judges make exceptions (not in a case like this though were he's going this far over the limit) so you shouldn't be found guilty before you are to appear before the judge...simple as that

Fobio
03-03-2009, 02:31 PM
Heavily modified...with snow tires...right on!

don't judge lest you be judged yourself...roadside justice is delivered as a political msg, as death by high speed accidents is generally apprehensive even to those who speed themselves.

I chalk this kinda stupidness up to momentary lapse of judgement that may cause death to yourself and others in uncontrolled environments. If you asked the guy any other day, I'm sure he'd be schpewing some BS about how he's a conscious driver who follows the rules too.

I tend to think that if a tree that falls in a forest with nothing around, it tends to not be heard or noticed...and if it did get noticed, it travels like stink.

yearoftherat
03-03-2009, 03:52 PM
Just shows you the laws here in Ontario suck..what a joke..

Malcolm991
03-03-2009, 06:17 PM
What a stooge, I hope they make an example out of him!

gonzo25
03-03-2009, 08:49 PM
All Canadian cars are limited to 200-220km. Unless its been chipped and removed.

However it just means fuel/throttle gets cut off.

WRONG. Many many cars can go faster then this stock with no modification. You mazdaspeed for instance, Cobalt SS...if these shit boxes can do it then I assure you some luxury cars can

Gizzmo_jr
03-03-2009, 08:59 PM
They will rape this story for the next month, and it will flow into some blitz to start off the summer. Some big headaches coming for us normal drivers, thank you mister d****bag.

jaimie08mazda3
03-03-2009, 09:01 PM
wow what a tool for sure... im not gonna lie ive topped out my car.. but not to that extent! *yea as well as kev i was dumb bored and it was early in the morning no cars. but to that extent ON THE 401 FOR THAT MATTER. what a tool omg

jonjon72
03-03-2009, 09:49 PM
The driver of the G35 is a 26 years old guy named Antonio Talarico . They had a police officer on the side of the road with a laser sighter and called up ahead to a couple of cars parked up ahead so they can get up to speed and catch the guy. The police had mentioned that at his speed, they never would have caught him from a standing start. No need for a dangerous chase. When he was pulled over, he apologized to the police.

Since he wasn't racing another car, he won't be charged as a street racer. Most likely it will be for stunt driving! :bang

SP33D 3
03-03-2009, 10:41 PM
All Canadian cars are limited to 200-220km. Unless its been chipped and removed.

However it just means fuel/throttle gets cut off.

i think you're highly misinformed on this, you're probably thinking about the cars that can't reach those speeds, but if i remember my old mazda 3 was limited to 180 while my speed is limited to 250 before modding and there was no fuel/throttle cut off anywhere between 200 or 220, and this goes the same with alot of other cars ive driven that were purchased in canada

i know german cars have a "gentlemans agreement" to put a limiter at 250km/h and 280km/h on amg, m and s versions

jonjon72
03-03-2009, 11:00 PM
Actually someone from Nissan informed the media that the G35's max speed is 250 before it shuts down. Either the guy removed the limiter or was just shy of hitting 250.

-RJ3-
03-03-2009, 11:17 PM
I understand that this g35 is tuned and it is meant for high speeds, but limited at 250?!?!

If you ask me rev limiter should have been like all other cars: around 180

Is there a reason for such a high limeter?

Even if he races it on a controlled drag track. Is it even possible to hit 250 at a quarter mile?

It could be a stupid question

x_o_k_x
03-04-2009, 01:04 AM
Sports cars are tuned for higher governor for track purposes, but like our Mazda3 they are not "race" cars, so there is no need for it to go 220.

Also there is quiet ALOT of drivers go over 200kph on 401 in the summer time, so Im not really surprised. You would see a few porshes 911 hitting 220s and other modified cars.

bluntman
03-04-2009, 08:02 AM
I heard on the news this morning that once everything is back in order, the driver's insurance premiums will be around $30,000 a year.

Thrizzl3
03-04-2009, 08:09 AM
$30k..:whoa thats $2500/mo might as well take the bus from now on

swales
03-04-2009, 08:20 AM
Since he wasn't racing another car, he won't be charged as a street racer. Most likely it will be for stunt driving! :bang

It doesn't matter, they both have the same fines etc, which is part of the problem with this law.....How is speeding the same as stunt driving? Dumbass law

Wild Weasel
03-04-2009, 08:43 AM
I understand that this g35 is tuned and it is meant for high speeds, but limited at 250?!?!

If you ask me rev limiter should have been like all other cars: around 180

Is there a reason for such a high limeter?

Even if he races it on a controlled drag track. Is it even possible to hit 250 at a quarter mile?

It could be a stupid question

Firstly, to suggest that "all other cars" are limited to around 180 is a bit naive. Perhaps you've only driven cheaper compact cars, but I distinctly rememebr a Ford Windstar blowing by me once doing around 200. As mentioned previously, the MS3 can do 250 or so before it runs out of steam, and isn't electronically limited.

As for taking to a track... there's plenty of tracks out there other than 1/4 mile tracks and with enough modification to get you down into the 9 second range, you'll be hitting these speeds even in the quarter mile.

As for this guy... really, it sucks to be him but I won't condemn him without knowing the circumstances. It was after midnight so for all we know, the road could have been completely empty and he may have just been doing this for a short time for a bit of fun. Sure, it's stupid and he shouldn't have done it, but that's not to say he was putting anyone else in any sort of danger. I'm not defending him at all. Just suggesting it may not have been as crazy as they made it out to be.

Of course, if he had winter tires which generally aren't rated for more than 150 or so, then that would be plain retarded. :)

mleblond
03-04-2009, 10:20 AM
V rating 149 mph 240 km/h for Sport Sedans, Coupes & Sports Cars.

His tires were fine, I have V rating on my MS3 as well...

3GFX
03-04-2009, 10:41 AM
We've all sped before, but honestly this guy should be hit with the full extent of the law, he shouldn't have been going that fast...period.


What kills me about all this limiter BS is that the highest speed limit it 100kmh in Canada so if anything the limiters of all cars should be 110!!!! I'm not condoning limiters, that would suck. But the only reason limiters are set higher is so that the cops and goverment can make some money of tickets.

Wild Weasel
03-04-2009, 11:52 AM
I honestly think that setting lower limiters should be an easy thing for dealers to do and people to ask for. I know someone just brought out a new system that has a sort of valet key option with driving restrictions including a speed limiter and perhaps an RPM limiter. The idea is to give that key to your kids if you're letting them use the car. I think it's a great idea.

Obviously some people DO go to race tracks and legally drive their cars at higher speeds, and should have the option to do so, but having the option to limit most cars to around 120 or 130 seems perfectly reasonable to me.

Fobio
03-04-2009, 12:10 PM
I agree with WW and the direction this discussion has taken is more productive than a bunch of shopping cart driving grandma's talking about bad drivers...yeah, I'm talking about YOU Cardi!...lol...j/k...

To be honest, I'd be the first one to get one of those smart keys for my kids. It's not that I don't trust him or her, I just don't trust them...or expect them to act like me. Speed limiters used judiciously is a good thing. Trucks with 110km/h limiters ARE a good thing. And if all it needs is the flip of the switch for me to go back to "track" mode, then it's even cooler...kinda like the new GTR.

Look, we all think this guy's a moron for getting caught doing 250. Whether he's a moron for getting caught OR for doing 250 is another conversation. You know they'll make a stink and an example of this guy...but that doesn't make him any worse than a drunk driver doing the speed limit.

He slowed down for the cops...he said sorry, which means he wasn't drunk and knew what he was doing and how wrong it is. Sounds like something I would've done...if I got caught...lol...

jaimie08mazda3
03-04-2009, 12:21 PM
everyone gets caught for speeding. obviously not to that extent. but still to the person here who hasnt topped out a car *once in their lives* is a liar. we've all done stupid shit unfortunately for him he got caught. when i first got my car i got a ticket for doing 85 in a 50. and i thought that was harsh. the guy knows what he did was wrong but at the same time i think about the fact he had snow tires.. and that he wouldnt be able to turn as quick if he had the "performance tires" on the car. and it coulda ended tragic. but he learned his lesson, insurance will rape him and there ya go

Cardinal Fang
03-04-2009, 12:51 PM
I agree with WW and the direction this discussion has taken is more productive than a bunch of shopping cart driving grandma's talking about bad drivers...yeah, I'm talking about YOU Cardi!...lol...j/k...


HEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEY!

Respect your elders Fobio......

I agree with what you're saying in that he crime is no worse or less than other crimes of this nature. You mentioned a drunk driver going the speed limit in your example.

I guess for me the difference is the guy made no attempt to cover it up. It was blatant speeding risking the lives of everyone around him. When I read this story I was sure this guy had an excuse. But he didn't. I thought that at least if he was drunk you could always claim he was so out of it he couldn't have known what he was doing. I'm not saying that's an excuse but it would explain it. He owned up to it and said he was sorry. No excuse. I guess he wanted to speed. That doesn't excuse the fact that I still believe him to be a moron.

Sure we all speed, but I think we all have a threshold as to how much we would push and would consider speeding (ie. 120-130). I guy who pushes 250km/hr is so far beyond the threshold. How could you control a car at that speed, at night, on a road that is not exactly known for being a smooth surface. I don't believe he knew how wrong it was. He might of thought it was speeding and thats it. All the press he's received should remind him of how serious his stunt was.

I'm stunned really.

FONZ
03-04-2009, 12:56 PM
I heard the G35 was heavily modded, with a V8 engine inside. I was reading it on some site. I'll see if I can get the specs of it.

condor888000
03-04-2009, 01:21 PM
I'm stunned really.

You should never be surprised by the depth of human stupidity...

jaimie08mazda3
03-04-2009, 01:31 PM
its like why did the chicken cross the road.. to get to the other side.. why did this guy speed. because he was bored and felt like being a complete idiot and speed. why do i smoke because i do. you could keep asking that question but what is done is done. nobody exactly has an excuse for speeding. when i got my ticket i told him that i was still learning how to shift properly and didnt realize how fast i was going. live and learn. he will never do it again.

3GFX
03-04-2009, 08:24 PM
I heard the G35 was heavily modded, with a V8 engine inside. I was reading it on some site. I'll see if I can get the specs of it.

I'm starting to hear it was stock.


This car is becoming a legend, lol.

Unoriginalusername
03-04-2009, 08:27 PM
i've gotten a lot wiser since getting older, married, and having a kid and this doesn't seem like a good idea anymore, especially since this law came into effect but common... all you guys acting so innocent i don't buy any of your bs double talk. we've all done something stupid at some time or another in our life span to some extent

Malcolm991
03-04-2009, 08:28 PM
I'm starting to hear it was stock.


This car is becoming a legend, lol.

I heard it was a twin turbo V12!:chuckle

x_o_k_x
03-04-2009, 08:32 PM
I heard he was chasing chuck norris, only that chuck norris wasnt driving:chuckle

Malcolm991
03-04-2009, 08:44 PM
i've gotten a lot wiser since getting older, married, and having a kid and this doesn't seem like a good idea anymore, especially since this law came into effect but common... all you guys acting so innocent i don't buy any of your bs double talk. we've all done something stupid at some time or another in our life span to some extent

I totally agree with you, I have done some stupid things in my time with cars and bikes! That was along time ago and the laws are different now to prevent those idiotic things from happening. That's what is so crazy about this story!

shuller1458
03-05-2009, 11:08 AM
I am not going to blame the guy for speeding, he was doing it at night at 5 lane hwy 400. Safe for me. I will blame him for being cought. It's just our PROSPECTIVE of what is fast and dangerous. In germany we would not have this conversation.

Loosing control, unstable?

Don't forget, it's a G35. A high speed, RWD sport's coupe capable of even higher speeds. Not FWD, sporty, tall hatch(MS3) based on ECONOMY and daly commute Mazda 3. I have been at those speeds in my car at Mosport (Skyline GTR). Yes, you got to be very alert, but it's not that the car wobles, and path wholes: you fly over them. You moving so fast there is no time for the wheel to dive in to the whole and bounce back to upset the traction.

And for calling 2 more police cars to slow him down ---> Was he going souht or north?

Unoriginalusername
03-05-2009, 12:26 PM
I am not going to blame the guy for speeding, he was doing it at night at 5 lane hwy 400. Safe for me. I will blame him for being cought. It's just our PROSPECTIVE of what is fast and dangerous. In germany we would not have this conversation.

Loosing control, unstable?

Don't forget, it's a G35. A high speed, RWD sport's coupe capable of even higher speeds. Not FWD, sporty, tall hatch(MS3) based on ECONOMY and daly commute Mazda 3. I have been at those speeds in my car at Mosport (Skyline GTR). Yes, you got to be very alert, but it's not that the car wobles, and path wholes: you fly over them. You moving so fast there is no time for the wheel to dive in to the whole and bounce back to upset the traction.

And for calling 2 more police cars to slow him down ---> Was he going souht or north?

Many moons ago in times of poorer judgement, at night, 407, no cars, no ramps, pre-driven route I have heard a rumour :chuckle that the MS3 does a verified GPS 263kmph.... There is even a video of one in Germany going flat out, 150mph isn't that fast and cars aren't as unstable at those speeds as many of you are indicating.

I again am not saying it is safe by anymeans, but in some situations/conditions it is safer than your commute home in many ways

Scottobot
03-05-2009, 01:48 PM
I don't think speed's as much the issue as is the flagrant disregard for the laws that are set to keep people safe. One nutter living so far outside of the rules is a hazard to everyone else following them. On the Autobahn people understand that you have to watch for cars going that fast. I was cruising at 180kph in a rental car once and had to pull into the middle lane quickly as a Z8 roared past and blew my doors off. But you know when you're in the left lane on the Autobahn you should check your rear view mirror every 5 seconds. You expect it. If you're cruising at 120kph on the 401, people might not be so aware of what's behind them as they may think they're safe, not expecting some idiot to exceed the posted speed limit by 150 kph.

I do agree though that good cars are surprisingly stable at high speeds. I have no doubt that a G35 would be pretty well planted at those speeds (at normal temperatures.. on top of driving that fast in a 100kph limited zone I think the guy's dangerously stupid for going that fast on cold pavement). I drove an A3 at 240kph on the Autobahn a few years back and it started getting a little squirrelly. The TT I tried felt considerably more stable and comfortable at that speed.

jaimie08mazda3
03-05-2009, 01:49 PM
the car in fact was stock. it had the 3.5 L v6 engine. my friend told me he got up to those speeds in his car.. he said it wasnt even fun.. it was terrifying. really if the police wanted to they could charge him with attempted murder really.

condor888000
03-05-2009, 01:59 PM
Now that would be bullshit.

The guy was speeding. It was an excessive speed, and this is one situation where I'm glad we have the impound law in place. But attempted murder? Give your head a shake.

jaimie08mazda3
03-05-2009, 02:27 PM
if you think about it.. really it isnt condor. think about it. he was driving at 250. anything were to happen he would have killed someone. especially at those speeds. because he neglected to go with the speedlimit *nonetheless 150 over the speed limit* he basically said i dont care im going to go the fastest my car can. and dont realize they could kill someone or themselves. the reason i stay with my original statment was a friend of mine a year ago got killed because 2 guys decided to race their cars on public roads. my friend was coming home from an afternoon shift and the guy spun out and smashed into my friend's car. and to this day i still think that its stupid. yes ive done it and i realize its stupid

condor888000
03-05-2009, 02:36 PM
Driving excessively fast should not qualify as murder. Generally, murder means there was an intent to kill someone, and speeding(even 150km/hr over the limit) does not qualify as having intent to kill.

Sorry about your friend, but really, classifying speeding as attempted murder means you're at the top of a slippery slope. Where do you draw the line? So 150 over is attempted murder, what about 149? What about 100 over? What about 50 over? Where do you start?

swales
03-05-2009, 02:49 PM
^^Also what about running a red light or stop sign etc, the motorist can easily kill someone then too....should they be charged with attempted murder?

jaimie08mazda3
03-05-2009, 03:09 PM
kk good point.. i dunno its just something i thought about. didnt make sense but at times made me feel better

swales
03-05-2009, 03:21 PM
i dunno its just something i thought about. didnt make sense but at times made me feel better

You sound like one of our Provincial politicians.....j/k :chuckle

jaimie08mazda3
03-05-2009, 03:22 PM
ahaha DONT GO THERE. plus no way i could become a politician. FK THAT. i'm a 19 year old drunk that smokes cigarettes... oh wait that is all of the politicians.. hmm maybe i can :D

3GFX
03-06-2009, 12:08 AM
I heard he was chasing chuck norris, only that chuck norris wasnt driving:chuckle

:chuckle:chuckle:chuckle

Ahahahaha well done.

DruidB
03-08-2009, 03:02 AM
i would have made some popcorn, found a nice spot to setup my lawn chair and then deploy the spike strip... :)

Acording to the police officers that are my current Criminal law teachers, the current impound/street racing law is wrong and goes against the charter of rights and freedoms.. S.11(g) and S.8...

condor888000
03-08-2009, 04:09 AM
11(d) is also ignored by this law. 11(g) doesn't seem to really apply to me, care to explain?



8. Everyone has the right to be secure against unreasonable search or seizure.
11. Any person charged with an offence has the right
d) to be presumed innocent until proven guilty according to law in a fair and public hearing by an independent and impartial tribunal;
g) not to be found guilty on account of any act or omission unless, at the time of the act or omission, it constituted an offence under Canadian or international law or was criminal according to the general principles of law recognized by the community of nations;
Source (http://laws.justice.gc.ca/en/charter/#egalite)

Fobio
03-08-2009, 04:14 AM
11(d) is also ignored by this law. 11(g) doesn't seem to really apply to me, care to explain?


Source (http://laws.justice.gc.ca/en/charter/#egalite)

I THINK it means you can't be charged for doing something that wasn't criminal at the time you did it, but which may have subsequently became criminal?

McGuyver_3
03-08-2009, 04:15 AM
Hmm, aren't they suppose to make this car into a cubicle for going over 150? :loco


"A driver has been charged with excessive speed after he was allegedly clocked going an astounding 250 km/h.

OPP officers pulled the man over on Highway 400 south of Finch Ave. One constable had apparently set up a stationary laser enforcement device when the Infiniti blew by him. A second officer then managed to pull the vehicle over despite the high velocity.

"I haven't been around here too long, but I've never heard of a speed this high," OPP Const. Scott Mulville observed, describing the vehicle as a high performance sports car.

"We have a few 'over 50s' obviously but nothing in the range of 250 (km/h) so no. It's a pretty fast driver."

The motorist loses his wheels for seven days and faces a fine of $2000. He's due in court in April.

He's charged with excessive speed, which equates to six demerit points."

Props to the guy for getting it up to 250km/h on the 400. Although that is the worst highway to do it on atleast do it on the 407 where road rules are more likely to be followed and there is no friggen plane flying above trying to track you down. I heard the reason why he did it is because he just picked up the car and wanted to see how fast it went lol

condor888000
03-08-2009, 04:18 AM
I THINK it means you can't be charged for doing something that wasn't criminal at the time you did it, but which may have subsequently became criminal?

Yeah that's how I read it too, but driving 50 over has always been illegal, so I'm still confused as to how that applies. That's why I brought up (d), it seems to fit a lot better.

DruidB
03-08-2009, 01:50 PM
11(d) is also ignored by this law. 11(g) doesn't seem to really apply to me, care to explain?


Source (http://laws.justice.gc.ca/en/charter/#egalite)

I can explain that easily... its a typo lol... i meant 11(d) lol

McGuyver_3
03-08-2009, 05:23 PM
From personal oppinion if we were to check over every car here in Canada and pull off every s**tbox off of the road with rusted frames were you can see through them and do a proper safety on all cars to make sure they are roadworthy of 250km/h then we could avoid this whole situation. Teach people how to drive with respect. I have noticed that the further away from torontom you get the more the road rules are obliged. good example is driving down to niagra falls or wasaga beach once you hit a certain spot traffic starts flowing properly the fast lane is a fast lane and people move over if they see you comming. Why is it so ignorant in the city? With all of the safetys pulling cars off of the road that are unsafe and teaching people road respect 250k/h would not be an issue

DruidB
03-09-2009, 10:47 AM
From personal oppinion if we were to check over every car here in Canada and pull off every s**tbox off of the road with rusted frames were you can see through them and do a proper safety on all cars to make sure they are roadworthy of 250km/h then we could avoid this whole situation. Teach people how to drive with respect. I have noticed that the further away from torontom you get the more the road rules are obliged. good example is driving down to niagra falls or wasaga beach once you hit a certain spot traffic starts flowing properly the fast lane is a fast lane and people move over if they see you comming. Why is it so ignorant in the city? With all of the safetys pulling cars off of the road that are unsafe and teaching people road respect 250k/h would not be an issue


I agree... You would have to couple that with better driver training and much improved highway condition and design to make it properly safe.. but there is no reason why it couldnt be done... well.. maybe one... lack of govt. income from speeding tickets

Wild Weasel
03-09-2009, 03:22 PM
Well... you couldn't ever do that with any of the existing highways. They're just not designed for those speeds. I'm sure they could safely jack the limit to 130 or so (with people generally doing around 150-160) but that's about it.

Of course, when building a new highway like the 407 was, there's no reason not to design it for top speeds.

The existing highways have bends in them that are just too sharp though and smoothing them out would be prohibitively expensive.

DARK3
03-09-2009, 04:28 PM
I know the guy, he was a buddy of mine. He used to drive a green civic hatchback. He was always a crazy guy.

3GFX
03-09-2009, 10:42 PM
He was always a crazy guy.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XePWgs43eOc&feature=related

http://drrockshow.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/wild_and_crazy_guys.jpg

DruidB
03-10-2009, 02:47 PM
[QUOTE=Wild Weasel;397322]

The existing highways have bends in them that are just too sharp QUOTE]



Or they could just make everyone buy mazda's... problem solved

bhrm
03-10-2009, 04:31 PM
if anyone is on the car lounge/vwvortex

people were posting "he should've kept going" and some outlined his ideal escape route and on paper, he could've gotten away with it however the risk and consequences would've been severe, but he had a fighting chance!

Thrizzl3
03-10-2009, 04:39 PM
if anyone is on the car lounge/vwvortex

people were posting "he should've kept going" and some outlined his ideal escape route and on paper, he could've gotten away with it however the risk and consequences would've been severe, but he had a fighting chance!

those people represent the idiot drivers of ontario:loco

jaimie08mazda3
03-10-2009, 08:29 PM
via why young males insurance is ass rapage