Torontomazda3 is changing hosts

[S.F.W.]

Over the past month or two many members have noticed TM3 has been performing poorly, with slow response times, and double posts. We are taking action to address your concerns. We are changing hosts this weekend. All data will be migrated.

Please note from Sunday at approximately noon, until late Sunday evening or worst case Monday morning TM3 will be down.
Due to recent performance issues TM3 will be changing hosts on Sunday. As part of this, we must take the forum down for a period of time to complete the migration.
Your patience is appreciated. Should you have concerns, please let us know.

[Flagrum_3]

Thanks for the heads-up Ami. It'll be nice to have a smooth working site again.


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[Noisy Crow]

FYI:

For those who haven't been through something like this before: You may need to flush your browser's cache to force it to look for the server at its new location.

[S.F.W.]

FYI:

For those who haven't been through something like this before: You may need to flush your browser's cache to force it to look for the server at its new location.

Thank you, I knew I was forgetting to mention something.

[froggy]

So my existing bookmark to the site will work? or will I have to type it in manually first and then re-bookmark?

[kLuMzi]

Over the past month or two many members have noticed TM3 has been performing poorly, with slow response times, and double posts. We are taking action to address your concerns. We are changing hosts this weekend. All data will be migrated.

Please note from Sunday at approximately noon, until late Sunday evening or worst case Monday morning TM3 will be down.
Due to recent performance issues TM3 will be changing hosts on Sunday. As part of this, we must take the forum down for a period of time to complete the migration.
Your patience is appreciated. Should you have concerns, please let us know.

Good luck migrating to new host. Hope to have a smooth transition, no data loss whatsoever. :bana

thanks!

[cereal83]

The dns should handle directing people to the proper host once it is switched.

[Gizzmo_jr]

The dns should handle directing people to the proper host once it is switched.

It will but Noisy Crow is right, your cookie/cache has the old IP address still.

[omalak]

Great.. here comes the withdrawal syndrome :bang

lol hope things go smooth!

[yearoftherat]

Good luck with the migration and look forward to the new server.

[JamesDL]

Are we going to notice any differents after this happens?

[Unoriginalusername]

Are we going to notice any differents after this happens?

a difference perhaps, not so sure about the differents

[x_o_k_x]

Are we going to notice any differents after this happens?

It would perform better with, faster responce and reduce double posting and increase loading speed.

[Noisy Crow]

So my existing bookmark to the site will work? or will I have to type it in manually first and then re-bookmark?

Bookmarks will still work. Bookmarks are stored using the same text that you type in manually. The cache is where the browser keeps its local cross reference between the text URL (e.g. www.torontomazda3.ca) and the actual IP address (in this case 64.13.192.201). There's a bit more to it than that, but you get the idea.

To clear the cache:
Firefox: "Tools","Clear Private Data", make sure Cache is checked, click "okay"
IE: "Tools", "Internet Options", "General" tab, click "delete files", click "okay"

[Iceman_F1]

Bookmarks will still work. Bookmarks are stored using the same text that you type in manually. The cache is where the browser keeps its local cross reference between the text URL (e.g. www.torontomazda3.ca) and the actual IP address (in this case 64.13.192.201). There's a bit more to it than that, but you get the idea.

To clear the cache:
Firefox: "Tools","Clear Private Data", make sure Cache is checked, click "okay"
IE: "Tools", "Internet Options", "General" tab, click "delete files", click "okay"

Yup...

And for the Opera users out there just in case...

Opera: "Tools", "Preferences", "Advanced" tab, "History" on the left menu, click "Empty Now"

Should be the same for OSX users too. Just has a different way to access the preferences menus.

[cereal83]

If you have your cache to check every visit to the webpage then it will detect the new ip address. I dunno, I am just a web admin, what do I know lol. I do this stuff daily.

[Iceman_F1]

If you have your cache to check every visit to the webpage then it will detect the new ip address. I dunno, I am just a web admin, what do I know lol. I do this stuff daily.

True, but not everyone sets it as that. So this is one of those "if you have problems, try the above"

[Cardinal Fang]

The good news in all this is that the migration may actually flush out Broli's 3,365 other handles.

[DumpInfo]

The good news in all this is that the migration may actually flush out Broli's 3,365 other handles.

:chuckle

[Unoriginalusername]

The good news in all this is that the migration may actually flush out Broli's 3,365 other handles.

AE Detecor FTW

[Cardinal Fang]

AE Detector my fat ass!

Every other post in the Moderator's lounge is about how "Insert Handle Name Here" has tripped the AE Detector." My God you would think that there were only 20 computers active on TM3 and everyone is posting from them. :)

[Unoriginalusername]

AE Detector my fat ass!

Every other post in the Moderator's lounge is about how "Insert Handle Name Here" has tripped the AE Detector." My God you would think that there were only 20 computers active on TM3 and everyone is posting from them. :)

its bingo for moderators.... have fun :chuckle

[vladimir]

You don't need to clear cache, just do a force refresh.
Press Ctrl+F5 for a force refresh which bypasses cache and re-gets everything for the current site only. Clearing cache effects all sites.

[Xerox]

All this clearing cache is totally unnecessary.

The issue is that the IP address will change. The IP address will be updated automatically by the DNS servers. The only caching that may delay your computer from accessing the new server is the DNS resolver cache, NOT the browser cache.

A simple reboot will clear the DNS resolver cache.
Or, if you wanna force it without reboot, the Windows command is "ipconfig /flushdns" and you need to close and reopen your browser.

Good luck with the migration. Thanks Ami and anyone else involved for taking care of the site.

(64.13.192.201)

[STeeLy]

Good Luck switching hosts today!

[S.F.W.]

Update:
Some challenges I have to work out, so I have put the board back up for now. We are still on the original host

[eqlso]

Yay!

[yearoftherat]

I guess we are still with the same host for now...

[Thrizzl3]

hopefully less double posting..

[mazdathree]

so when is the next down time?

[S.F.W.]

so when is the next down time?
will try to do it overnight tomorrow(Monday night) or Tuesday night, to minimize downtime.

[yearoftherat]

Don't stay up all nite Ami...

[Xerox]

I see the DNS changed.

You may still be working on this but just wanted to point out that the forum on the new host is in the root rather than in "forum" folder as it is now.

[Anrky]

I see the DNS changed.

You may still be working on this but just wanted to point out that the forum on the new host is in the root rather than in "forum" folder as it is now.


Yeah this should be tweaked since it breaks all forum links made in all posts...

[S.F.W.]

Yeah this should be tweaked since it breaks all forum links made in all posts...
hmm, I wonder if this is also the cause of the PM issues. I will investigate.

[sp3GT]

I made posts during the day, I saw them at 6pm but now they're all gone?

[AskClaudio.com]

PMs are not working!

[S.F.W.]

PMs are not working!
working on it now.

[S.F.W.]

I made posts during the day, I saw them at 6pm but now they're all gone?
likely on the old server. Will investigate, once I fix the PM issue.

[Anrky]

Also it seems Social Groups don't work (not that you needed more to do!)

:-)

[S.F.W.]

Also it seems Social Groups don't work (not that you needed more to do!)

:-)
yeah, this PM issue is my first priority, and I'm really not sure how to fix.

[Anrky]

Excellent work on the PM's what was the issue?

[S.F.W.]

Excellent work on the PM's what was the issue?
Database versions. Had to downgrade to previous VB, convert database, re upgrade, upgrade database.
That was seriously stressful.

[thefish]

And links are no longer broken. Yay :bana

[S.F.W.]

still have to fix social groups. Please let me know of anything else.

[Thrizzl3]

hey Ami, when people type in www.torontomazda3.ca it shows cgi.bin or forum..most people would be confused over this..just wanted to let you know

[S.F.W.]

hey Ami, when people type in www.torontomazda3.ca (http://www.torontomazda3.ca) it shows cgi.bin or forum..most people would be confused over this..just wanted to let you know
thanks for the heads up. Will try and fix.

[S.F.W.]

ok, home page is fixed.

[marvin24k]

It seems I have lost several messages from my inbox...all from yesterday/today. Also several posts I made are gone.

[marvin24k]

looks like we just lost EVERYTHING that was done on Monday.

[Krakor]

Ami I pm'd you about this but I am unable to change my signature.

You can fill it in but when you save it and try to post, it's gone back to original.

Not sure what is happening.

[p-o-g-i]

Yeah there were a few posts here and there that I lost as well. I guess my .02 were actually worth less then that :chuckle

[S.F.W.]

looks like we just lost EVERYTHING that was done on Monday.
we lost some stuff from Monday. As the dns moved from the old host to the new, some people were still posting on the old site, before their systems updated.
If it is critical you have those posts and messages, I can attempt to merge the databases. However, I am really hesitant to do so.

Ami

[S.F.W.]

Ami I pm'd you about this but I am unable to change my signature.

You can fill it in but when you save it and try to post, it's gone back to original.

Not sure what is happening.

Will investigate this today, and get back to you.

[sudz]

Poor Guy! I just logged on for the first time in a week, and noticed everything is snappy and have encountered Zero errors :-)

(just some GOOD news for you!)

[rick@garage16.ca]

I been getting emails that I got pm's on here but when i sign in I dont have any msgs :(

[S.F.W.]

moving to the host change discussion.

[S.F.W.]

I been getting emails that I got pm's on here but when i sign in I dont have any msgs :(
Rick - if the PM's were sent Monday afternoon, they may not have made it over to the new host. If you can PM me some additional information, I can investigate.

[kaval]

I'm missing some really important PMs that I sent today.

[S.F.W.]

I'm missing some really important PMs that I sent today.

It's possible your dns only recently updated. So you may have sent them on the old site. I will investigate further.

[sp3GT]

How do you know if the dns updated or not? I log onto my laptop and log on to my desktop it shows different things.

Desktop seems more trouble then laptop too.

[Mazda3X2]

I am having similar issues.

Different computers are showing different things for me.

Posts I made are missing on one, PM's are missing on another etc...

Confusing.

[Iceman_F1]

How do you know if the dns updated or not? I log onto my laptop and log on to my desktop it shows different things.

Desktop seems more trouble then laptop too.

The old IP is stated in the bottom of the below quote...


All this clearing cache is totally unnecessary.

The issue is that the IP address will change. The IP address will be updated automatically by the DNS servers. The only caching that may delay your computer from accessing the new server is the DNS resolver cache, NOT the browser cache.

A simple reboot will clear the DNS resolver cache.
Or, if you wanna force it without reboot, the Windows command is "ipconfig /flushdns" and you need to close and reopen your browser.

Good luck with the migration. Thanks Ami and anyone else involved for taking care of the site.

(64.13.192.201)

Basically, in windows, if you click on the "start" menu, then click "run" and in that box type "cmd" then push enter, you get a window that has a black background and white text. In there, if you type "ping torontomazda3.ca", you'll get 4 lines of response back. If it shows the IP as the above IP, it's still the old one and the DNS isn't right. If it shows a new one (for me on my mac, it's pinging a start number of 216) then it should be the new one.

As the above states, in that same window you did the ping in, if you type "ipconfig /flushdns", it should clear the DNS cache and try to resolve the new one the next time you go to the site.

[kaval]

Hmm...I'm missing even more PMs now then when I posted earlier. Now PMs are missing from my Inbox too! :(

Is there a way of getting these PMs back?

Edit: I've been sending PMs for half an hour or so, and after sending the PM, they are not showing up in the sent items folder. Does this mean the PMs are not going through?

[marvin24k]

I lost all the ones I sent/received today too! So Lost both days (Monday/Tuesday) of PMs / posts.

[S.F.W.]

Hmm...I'm missing even more PMs now then when I posted earlier. Now PMs are missing from my Inbox too! :(

Is there a way of getting these PMs back?

Edit: I've been sending PMs for half an hour or so, and after sending the PM, they are not showing up in the sent items folder. Does this mean the PMs are not going through?

Please check the ip address your system is using for the site. I need you to verify you are on the new host.

[mazdathree]

Im having the same problem. I just tried to respond to my PM and Im not able to see it in my sent box...not sure if its even getting sent.

what is the new IP address?

[S.F.W.]

im having the same problem. I just tried to respond to my pm and im not able to see it in my sent box...not sure if its even getting sent.

What is the new ip address?

209.69.32.132

[mazdathree]

i just tried that IP address and it does not take me to TM3 site. It just doesnt do anything...

[S.F.W.]

i just tried that IP address and it does not take me to TM3 site. It just doesnt do anything...
try 216.86.156.1

also try the dns flush :
Or, if you wanna force it without reboot, the Windows command is "ipconfig /flushdns" and you need to close and reopen your browser.

[kaval]

Ami, do you know how to do this on Mac OS?

[Iceman_F1]

Ami, do you know how to do this on Mac OS?

Open up your applications (either through the dock or finder), go to utilities and then there should be something that says "network tools" or something like that. From there, a window with a few tabs should open. One of them says "ping". From there, you can ping torontomazda3.ca and see what it says. (Trying to remember this while at work on windows. I have a mac at home and I did a ping last night so I kinda remember it)

If you want to flush the cache, not sure if there's a GUI way to do it on the OSX (never needed to) but if you open up a terminal window (I think it's also under the utilities) and type the following, it should work...

OSX 10.5 -
dscacheutil -flushcache

OSX 10.4 or lower? -
lookupd -flushcache

Which I got that info from the following site...

http://osxdaily.com/2008/03/21/how-to-flush-your-dns-cache-in-mac-os-x/

[kaval]

Thanks Iceman! Here's what I got...


Ping has started ...

PING torontomazda3.ca (216.86.156.1): 56 data bytes
64 bytes from 216.86.156.1: icmp_seq=0 ttl=54 time=33.910 ms
64 bytes from 216.86.156.1: icmp_seq=1 ttl=54 time=33.376 ms
64 bytes from 216.86.156.1: icmp_seq=2 ttl=54 time=33.281 ms
64 bytes from 216.86.156.1: icmp_seq=3 ttl=54 time=32.758 ms
64 bytes from 216.86.156.1: icmp_seq=4 ttl=54 time=33.303 ms
64 bytes from 216.86.156.1: icmp_seq=5 ttl=54 time=32.397 ms
64 bytes from 216.86.156.1: icmp_seq=6 ttl=54 time=33.110 ms
64 bytes from 216.86.156.1: icmp_seq=7 ttl=54 time=33.440 ms
64 bytes from 216.86.156.1: icmp_seq=8 ttl=54 time=33.553 ms
64 bytes from 216.86.156.1: icmp_seq=9 ttl=54 time=41.846 ms

--- torontomazda3.ca ping statistics ---
10 packets transmitted, 10 packets received, 0% packet loss
round-trip min/avg/max/stddev = 32.397/34.097/41.846/2.613 ms

[Iceman_F1]

Thanks Iceman! Here's what I got...

Ping has started ...

PING torontomazda3.ca (216.86.156.1): 56 data bytes
64 bytes from 216.86.156.1: icmp_seq=0 ttl=54 time=33.910 ms
64 bytes from 216.86.156.1: icmp_seq=1 ttl=54 time=33.376 ms
64 bytes from 216.86.156.1: icmp_seq=2 ttl=54 time=33.281 ms
64 bytes from 216.86.156.1: icmp_seq=3 ttl=54 time=32.758 ms
64 bytes from 216.86.156.1: icmp_seq=4 ttl=54 time=33.303 ms
64 bytes from 216.86.156.1: icmp_seq=5 ttl=54 time=32.397 ms
64 bytes from 216.86.156.1: icmp_seq=6 ttl=54 time=33.110 ms
64 bytes from 216.86.156.1: icmp_seq=7 ttl=54 time=33.440 ms
64 bytes from 216.86.156.1: icmp_seq=8 ttl=54 time=33.553 ms
64 bytes from 216.86.156.1: icmp_seq=9 ttl=54 time=41.846 ms

--- torontomazda3.ca ping statistics ---
10 packets transmitted, 10 packets received, 0% packet loss
round-trip min/avg/max/stddev = 32.397/34.097/41.846/2.613 ms

So according to Ami's previous post, that looks to be you have the new IP mapped properly. So what the issue is after that not sure (if there's still an issue)

[kaval]

So according to Ami's previous post, that looks to be you have the new IP mapped properly. So what the issue is after that not sure (if there's still an issue)

The issue for me is that I'm missing a ton of PMs. I just cleared my cache and everything else, but nothing is showing up. Not sure if they can be restored.

[Iceman_F1]

The issue for me is that I'm missing a ton of PMs. I just cleared my cache and everything else, but nothing is showing up. Not sure if they can be restored.

Yeah, I knew you had that problem. Just saying that as I don't deal with any of that then I'm not sure as to the source of the problem and/or the fix.

From dealing with what we do at work, my guess would be it's something with the database backup (I think) but how easily that could be recovered if at all isn't something I know.

[kaval]

That's cool! In any case, thanks for your help :).

[Iceman_F1]

No problem. Hopefully things can be figured out. So far, nothing wrong on my end (laptop or work desktop)

[marvin24k]

Am still missing my monday PMs. :(

[Krakor]

Still not able to update my signature.

[S.F.W.]

Still not able to update my signature.
this is fixed now for all users. Thank you for your patience.