Track Event posting requirements

[Fuman]

Been noticing a few track event being posted lately that lacks a bit of information, namely rules. Even though I am probably not tracking any time soon, I feel that our members need to be better informed before going to such events.

For example:
1) passing anywhere? or designated areas.
1a) If designated areas, who moves off the racing line? the person being passed, or the passer
2) for everyone, or seasoned drivers
3) Requirements (e.g. helmet, most posts have this)

feel free to add to this list.

[Big Dad]

Your rules is why I did not show up to your event.

[Fuman]

Your rules is why I did not show up to your event.
don't recall hosting an event.

Either way, its a good thing. You likely went to an event you preferred. Event organizers don't have to deal with people complaining about rules.

[Fobio]

I agree events hosted by 3rd parties that are posted in the "Events" section, should be treated similar to for sale ads and should require full listing of info, esp if the event is strictly for profit.

Having said that, the "club" track events posted directly in "Tracking/Handling" are usually listed as FYI and not for the profit of the poster. Usually these are for ppl who are already committed or are planning to attend anyway, and discussion happens to hash out certain details members are looking for.

Therefore...for profit/$ events posted in the "Events" sections should have more details. While we should leave the events in tracking to be self-moderated by those who are really interested.

[S.F.W.]

Therefore...for profit/$ events posted in the "Events" sections should have more details. While we should leave the events in tracking to be self-moderated by those who are really interested.

That sounds like a good idea. What I can do is the first time an advertiser(such as Touge) posts one of their events without details, I will PM/email them asking to provide details of their event, as per your guidelines. Failure to do so, will have future posts deleted, with a PM/email response detailing the requirements.

Does that work for you guys?

[Fobio]

That sounds like a good idea. What I can do is the first time an advertiser(such as Touge) posts one of their events without details, I will PM/email them asking to provide details of their event, as per your guidelines. Failure to do so, will have future posts deleted, with a PM/email response detailing the requirements.

Does that work for you guys?

Works for me. Thanks Ami!

[mleblond]

Fuman, wasn't it you that tried to organize a track day with the prelude guys?

Fobio, you should know and anyone else who has tracked before that every event has rules. It's an automatic. And that is why you attend the driver's meeting where they explain all the rules.

Ami, most event website post the rules and would not worry about it. If you plan on attending usually you inform yourself first and then have to book the event, prep your car and attend the drivers meeting.

http://touge.ca/Touge/Safety%20and%20flags.htm
http://cscs.ca/content/view/46/111/

As for event organizer's, whether they post the rules or not isn't going to change a thing.

I remember going to a touge event last year seeing 4 cars coming around the corner before the stretch along the pit lane which was a big no no as per the rules but the fact was they had too many cars at once and nobody likes being stuck behind a slow car. For me that was it for that group, and wont run with them again. (also had someone take me off course as they didnt want to let me pass)

So posting the rules mandatory won't change a thing and I disagree on making it mandatory or else delete.

[Fobio]

my view is simply to keep the tracking events posted in "Tracking/Handling" to be kept as self-moderated.

whether the events posted by, for example touge and others, are moderated or not concerns me none. like mleblond said, I know what tracking rules are and what to expect.

however, fuman's point (and I hope this is the extent of it) is that more information can be useful to those who are less experienced with the whole tracking thing and may feel intimidated if the rules are not clearly posted...having rules posted might help the newbies break into the sport we love...

the events posted in "Tracking/Handling" are not the same type of events and that is why I believe those can be self-moderated: the ppl who are interested in these events are well aware of what to expect...and would sometimes, rather keep details to a minimum for obvious reasons, which I agree and support.

[Fuman]

however, fuman's point (and I hope this is the extent of it) is that more information can be useful to those who are less experienced with the whole tracking thing and may feel intimidated if the rules are not clearly posted...having rules posted might help the newbies break into the sport we love...\
fobio, you always word things better than I can, lol.

whether or not an organizer enforces the rules is out of our control. keep members informed is something we can do.

[mleblond]

Sure you can ask the organizer to list some rule's but to make it mandatory is a little much.

I also personally think no one is in it to get rich.

I suggest making a sticky for newbies if you want on rules and safety, and that would be more then enough to help out for someone that wants to start tracking his car. Repetitively posting rules when you can just read them online or know the basics of what the rules should be is enough IMO.

Again making it mandatory is little much. We can educate our members without having each event copy and paste rules every time. Like in the ideal world they just need to post the season schedule and that should be it. Or even maybe give sub forums in tracking for each organizer's...

[Fobio]

Sure you can ask the organizer to list some rule's but to make it mandatory is a little much.

I also personally think no one is in it to get rich.

I suggest making a sticky for newbies if you want on rules and safety, and that would be more then enough to help out for someone that wants to start tracking his car. Repetitively posting rules wen you can just read them online or know the basics of what the rules should be enough IMO.

Again making it mandatory is little much. We can educate our members without having each event copy and paste rules every time. Like in the ideal world they just need to post the season schedule and that should be it. Or even maybe give sub forums in tracking for each organizer's...

Fuman is not referring to our CSCS events or the AutoX events in "Tracking/Handling"...he's referring to the events posted under "Other Events"...which does not affect you and I. And for the sake of the newb's, it's not a bad idea to encourage the posters to to post their own respective rules, as every organizer has their own set of rules.

Our CSCS events and other competitive events should not need anymore elaborating...you know what you're getting into, and should know well enough how to find out more if you need to know.

"Lapping" and "Timed events" are not the same thing..."Lapping" events posted under "Other Events" should have more info. Roll-call for "Timed events" does not fall into the same category, and is what we have been posting under "Tracking/Handling".

At the end of the day, what gets posted under "Other Events" and how it's posted doesn't affect me personally. But I'll re-iterate once again: please allow events posted under "Tracking/Handling" to be self-moderated (ie. no requirements).

[mleblond]

I always wondered why tracking events were posted in 2 separate sections.....

[Fobio]

I always wondered why tracking events were posted in 2 separate sections.....

to gather everything, we can have a sub-section under "Tracking/Handling" called "Events", to collect all "Lapping" and other track related events. I don't think it's necessary, but it may give a better overall presentation, cuz it opens other cans of worms: what's considered a "track" event? etc...