Blackberry Talk (issues, fixes and every thing else that deals with blackberries)

[Thrizzl3]

This thread is for those who own blackberries and for those who are interested in getting one. I own a blackberry pearl 8130 but its getting old for me so im going to upgrade it soon..discuss whatever you want:)

problems: my sceen is cracking from the heat inside the phone..apparently i talk on it too much according to telus..

my trackball is black...when i got the phone it was white. i saw some youtube videos on how to clean it but im afraid i screw something up along the way

[philipfreire]

Just put a bit of rubbing alcohol. Turn the phone off first. Then scroll the shit out of dat motha...

Then sell it to one of your homies and sell that shit itouch and with the money you make get an iphone.

You eliminate two decives for one that can do all that and much more! :)

or....

get the blackberry bold. its sexy.


btw, haha for putting that quote up on your sig. hahahahahaha

[Thrizzl3]

Just put a bit of rubbing alcohol. Turn the phone off first. Then scroll the shit out of dat motha...

Then sell it to one of your homies and sell that shit itouch and with the money you make get an iphone.

You eliminate two decives for one that can do all that and much more! :)

or....

get the blackberry bold. its sexy.


btw, haha for putting that quote up on your sig. hahahahahaha

can't sell the phone im on a 3 year contract. and i dont wanna may the $35x24mos for cancellation.

YES! you were the one that asked that dumb question:chuckle

[JashiK]

phil it's called wash your hands properly. muhahaa

[coriolis]

Can't wait for firmware 5.0 to hit!

Opening isn't that hard, just watch a ton of videos first, to make sure you know what you are doing. I changed my Bold's bezel, trackball, buttons to a black theme, and it's really a Blackberry now :)

[Thrizzl3]

Can't wait for firmware 5.0 to hit!

Opening isn't that hard, just watch a ton of videos first, to make sure you know what you are doing. I changed my Bold's bezel, trackball, buttons to a black theme, and it's really a Blackberry now :)

hmm i wonder if they are coming out with a 5.0 for the pearl..currently running 4.5. it boots up faster than the original firmware that came with it.

[philipfreire]

Can't wait for firmware 5.0 to hit!

Opening isn't that hard, just watch a ton of videos first, to make sure you know what you are doing. I changed my Bold's bezel, trackball, buttons to a black theme, and it's really a Blackberry now :)

oh snap! gangsta. see your not really black phil if your "blackberry" ball isnt black.

now to be really gangsta, get a reflective blackberry trackball.

Just buy one on ebay, used of course.

[chinsterr]

Storm Vs Tour

your opinions please.

*Currently using the Curve 8330

[Thrizzl3]

i say the tour..the storm feels like a brick due to the touch screen feature and your probably one of those people that doesn't want to carry around a heavy phone.

[chinsterr]

i say the tour..the storm feels like a brick due to the touch screen feature and your probably one of those people that doesn't want to carry around a heavy phone.

Actually , I owned an iphone before switching over to bell. I was leaning towards the tour becuase I like the qwerty keyboard, but I want to be able to maximize my data usage. The storm seems like it would be easier to surf the net with, watch youtube vids, etc.

How do you Tour owners find browsing the web ? Difficult ?

[philipfreire]

Storm Vs Tour

your opinions please.

*Currently using the Curve 8330

Pretty much the same phone in terms of features. The tour is just a bit more updated in some features.

It comes down to weather you prefer touchscreen or the traditional keypad + trackball.

Go test em out at the store.

Not sure if this link works but heres a comparision of the two.
http://na.blackberry.com/eng/devices/compare/product-attr-compare.jsp?products=1667&products=1326

[MajesticBlueNTO]

Storm Vs Tour

your opinions please.

*Currently using the Curve 8330

the "clickable touchscreen" on the Storm is a joke. it is basically one big button. when typing, you have to press down on the screen and wait for it to register before moving on to the next letter. this severely cripples your typing speed...it was a good idea for those that want tactile feedback, but poor execution.

they should have made the option to 'disable' the tactile feedback so you could speed type with the touchscreen only.

the Storm also had a >50% return rate in the first few weeks of its release.

for those reasons, i held out on the Storm and just picked up a Tour (which has a black trackball)

[chinsterr]

the "clickable touchscreen" on the Storm is a joke. it is basically one big button. when typing, you have to press down on the screen and wait for it to register before moving on to the next letter. this severely cripples your typing speed...it was a good idea for those that want tactile feedback, but poor execution.

they should have made the option to 'disable' the tactile feedback so you could speed type with the touchscreen only.

the Storm also had a >50% return rate in the first few weeks of its release.

for those reasons, i held out on the Storm and just picked up a Tour (which has a black trackball)


Yup, I noticed that too ... the clickable screen really does hamper typing speed. I can only hope this is improved on the Storm 2 (9550) , which should be released soon.

[Thrizzl3]

i was debating between the two but they all do the same thing..ill wait til next year to upgrade.

[nitsuji]

hmm i wonder if they are coming out with a 5.0 for the pearl..currently running 4.5. it boots up faster than the original firmware that came with it.

If things still seem laggy, do a battery pull to free up some memory. For some strange reason sometimes when I do FW upgrades my ish gets laggy as hell. It may also sort other smaller problems out at the same time (camera, facebook syncing with contacts etc).

Might want to also look into he new leaked BBM for a little more speed. I'm running it right now and my 8900 and is a little more "peppier". The interface is also 100 times better :chuckle

[JashiK]

what is BBM? BlackBerry Messenger?

[Thrizzl3]

what is BBM? BlackBerry Messenger?

duhhh lol.

theres another version of BBM???

[JashiK]

duhhh lol.

theres another version of BBM???

shut up. wash your hands. dirty phildo.

[Thrizzl3]

shut up. wash your hands. dirty phildo.

LMAO when i first saw that i thought you called me a dildo:whoa

do you have a BB btw?

[All-Star]

Storm Vs Tour

your opinions please.

*Currently using the Curve 8330

I'm on my second Storm. Don't get me wrong, it's a crazy phone and I love it. I don't recommend it cuz if the screen goes, you're up a creek without a paddle. That's what happened to me.

The Tour is the newest and is a cross between the Storm and the Bold. It is also a world phone. I'd say go for the Tour. If you wanna wait it out, the Storm 2 and the Onyx are on the way. The Storm 2 should address the faults of the original. The Onyx adds wi-fi.

http://www.crackberry.com for more info.

[JashiK]

LMAO when i first saw that i thought you called me a dildo:whoa

do you have a BB btw?

Yeah I've got a bold... liking it so far.

[All-Star]

duhhh lol.

theres another version of BBM???

Yep, there's a leaked version of BBM 5.0. Can't wait for the official version cuz it is awesome! No need to ask for PINs when adding a new contact, just scan their barcode!! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m5peoxXJHM4) Muuuuch quicker. Easy broadcasting of messages. SMS text support within BBM and more. Version 5 of the operating system for current BB's looks really promising!

[Thrizzl3]

Yep, there's a leaked version of BBM 5.0. Can't wait for the official version cuz it is awesome! No need to ask for PINs when adding a new contact, just scan their barcode!! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m5peoxXJHM4) Muuuuch quicker. Easy broadcasting of messages. SMS text support within BBM and more. Version 5 of the operating system for current BB's looks really promising!

is that only with the 5.0 software upgrade or can you get it separately without the whole firmware upgrade

[sauga_kid]

I've had my Tour for about a week now and I'm loving it. The Tour has popped my smartphone and BB cherry and couldn't be any happier, lol. Haven't upgraded my bbm yet but will try to get around to it this weekend. I would definitley go Tour over Storm for all the above said reasons.

[FLIPDADY]

Tour for sure Phil. I had a Storm for a day and it's fancy and all but I didn't like the QWERTY keyboard on the touch screen.

It's like a cross between the Javelin and the Bold.

[erratic]

A friend of mine has a Storm and she says its a pita when you are typing lengthy emails. Blackberry's need qwerty keyboards. I love my Bold, and would definitely recommend a Tour.

BBM 5.0 leaked version still has a lot of bugs, and often messed up my conference chats. Downgraded for now, waiting for the official 5.0 os to hit.

[FoXy]

I'm pissed. My BBM is NOT working right now... its saying that everyone is on the phone, and all my friends BBM's arent working right either. I just texted them. Weird.... Rogers.... BOOURNS!!

[All-Star]

I'm pissed. My BBM is NOT working right now... its saying that everyone is on the phone, and all my friends BBM's arent working right either. I just texted them. Weird.... Rogers.... BOOURNS!!

I was told RIM was having some issues with BBM today...so it's not just you.

[All-Star]

A friend of mine has a Storm and she says its a pita when you are typing lengthy emails. Blackberry's need qwerty keyboards. I love my Bold, and would definitely recommend a Tour.

Must be me, but I'm fine with typing on the Storm regardless of message length. I'm more comfortable typing in portrait view with full QWERTY than in landscape view. I dunno, maybe it's cuz I play piano??? :chuckle

I bought a used BB 8830 World Phone to use as my backup while waiting for my Storm warranty replacement. Solid phone, nice keyboard, but it's just as big as the Bold, maybe even bigger. Unfortunately it only comes with a 2.5mm headset jack instead of your standard 3.5mm headphone jack so you'd need to buy an adapter if you want to connect it to your car or use regular headphones. Other than that, I'd totally recommend this phone.

[Slipstream]

hmmm ok maybe im just slow but ive been trying to use bluetooth on my bb and for some reason when i need something from my friends like a picture or something they try and send it to me via bluetooth but it never recieves and they dont have a bb. So does bluetooth only work on other blackberries? go easy on me >______<

[All-Star]

hmmm ok maybe im just slow but ive been trying to use bluetooth on my bb and for some reason when i need something from my friends like a picture or something they try and send it to me via bluetooth but it never recieves and they dont have a bb. So does bluetooth only work on other blackberries? go easy on me >______<

Nope bluetooth can work between different devices. It's hard to explain, but basically if you want to receive a file, you need to give the sender a passcode to ok the transfer. They punch in the code and you should be good to go. It's supposed to be this easy, but most times it isn't lol.

[Thrizzl3]

BBM went down today for about half an hour..i too was told RIM had some problems..

[jaimie08mazda3]

i can no longer fix my black berry... unless i can figure out how to fix it from a million different pieces haha

[Thrizzl3]

ya i just seen that the pearl isnt compatible for BBM 5.0 :flaming

[laksman91]

Phil, just get an iphone :) no regrets

[crystal8484]

I've had my Tour for about a week now and I'm loving it. The Tour has popped my smartphone and BB cherry and couldn't be any happier, lol. Haven't upgraded my bbm yet but will try to get around to it this weekend. I would definitley go Tour over Storm for all the above said reasons.

+1 The Storm could have been good had RIM gotten it right - but they didn't and it sucks ass. I'm trying to get my upgrade to kick in and get the Tour. My 76 yr old GRANDPA has the flippin' Tour - so I think I should be getting one too. HAHAHAHA

[JashiK]

phil u wash your hands yet?

[Thrizzl3]

phil u wash your hands yet?

wtf? you asked me that yesterday lol

[sauga_kid]

+1 The Storm could have been good had RIM gotten it right - but they didn't and it sucks ass. I'm trying to get my upgrade to kick in and get the Tour. My 76 yr old GRANDPA has the flippin' Tour - so I think I should be getting one too. HAHAHAHA

Wow, grandpa is ballin' like that eh? Nice!

[Tokic_o]

hmmm ok maybe im just slow but ive been trying to use bluetooth on my bb and for some reason when i need something from my friends like a picture or something they try and send it to me via bluetooth but it never recieves and they dont have a bb. So does bluetooth only work on other blackberries? go easy on me >______<

+1...how come my bluetooth never seems to work?!?! :complain

[crystal8484]

Wow, grandpa is ballin' like that eh? Nice!

hahah yah, he's always gotta be down with technology so he doesn't feel old. Drives an SUV, golfs every week, has facebook, can actually send emails and surf the web. ahahah

he's pretty ballin'

I love him!

[azn_outlaw]

which internet browser and map application do you guys recommend or use?

looking for an alternative to the IE and standard map found on my BB 8300

oh do I need to unlock the phone to do any of this?

[S.F.W.]

which internet browser and map application do you guys recommend or use?

looking for an alternative to the IE and standard map found on my BB 8300

oh do I need to unlock the phone to do any of this?

I like Opera mobile as an alternative browser. For maps, google maps is my standard.

[insaini]

my blackberry ..... i mean WHITEberry bold :chuckle

http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/448/img1512s.jpg

:bana:bana2

[chinsterr]

^^^^^ wow , thats pretty sweet !

[Tokic_o]

that is SOOO SICK!!!

pls teach/link me how to do that LOL

[nitsuji]

you can get all the parts from cnn.cn. =)

[Tokic_o]

i've checked that site. I don't see any white kits available??

[FLIPDADY]

i've checked that site. I don't see any white kits available??
Here's another site Brian.

http://www.truesupplier.com/full-housing-faceplate-cover-for-blackberry-curve-8900-all-whit-pr-18220.html

http://www.truesupplier.com/images/D/8900baalbo3dt.jpg?1248924514856

http://www.truesupplier.com/images/D/8900qbaalbodt.jpg?1248924540155

[wtom]

You iPhone wannabees!!!

So I'm still using the first-gen Curve (8310). Had it since Jan 2008. From factory it was a 4.2 app version.

Upgraded to 4.5.0.99 a few months back. Was happily surprised with the new features/UI aesthetics.

Slowly after tho I noticed the phone acting up. During a call, it would suddenly get interference and (usually) shut off.

Then I started noticing when I use the phone for non-phone items (typing a text msg, check email) it would randomly shut off as well.

These experiences have been shared by many in the Blackberry forums. The only way to get the unit to power back up is either battery-pull or plug-in power.

Very recently (the other night) I downgraded to 4.5.0.81 which has been recommended as one of the more stable versions. Battery prob still exists. Luckily I ordered a C-S2 battery online and am waiting for Canada Post to do their thang.

I will NEVER go Apple. I don't own nor use a single Apple product and don't plan to. Nothing against them. Just prefer not to fall into that i-style. :)

[Slade]

My work is issuing me a BB :), right now they are giving out the Curve 8900, looks pretty nice, only I have to play the waiting game and wait for it to be shipped to me :(

Im already addicted to it and I don't even have it..

[insaini]

My work is issuing me a BB :), right now they are giving out the Curve 8900, looks pretty nice, only I have to play the waiting game and wait for it to be shipped to me :(

Im already addicted to it and I don't even have it..

if you ordered it today it should be in ur hands by monday noon .. the latest... blackberry / rogers is the fasting shipping ever ... i ordered a replacement for my defective bold on wed ... and canada post was at my door with it on thursday afternoon !!

[Slade]

if you ordered it today it should be in ur hands by monday noon .. the latest... blackberry / rogers is the fasting shipping ever ... i ordered a replacement for my defective bold on wed ... and canada post was at my door with it on thursday afternoon !!

It has to be sent from our head office in Montreal, should have it by end of next week hopefully :)

To bad Monday is a holiday :(, this is the only time id rather have business open..

[Slade]

Sooooooo I got it today...Curve 8900....I feel so....lost..

I managed to get the wifi setup on my home router, so no data charges should be incurred (even though work pays for it). I can see my rotuer logs showing the data go.

Now, Im looking for free themes or ringers. I have been looking on crackberry.com , and am heading to howardforums, but just looking to see if anyone has any quick suggestions?

Im quickly becoming an addict...can't stop using BBM :|

[FLIPDADY]

I just ordered Bubble Popper from Crackberry.com. I also downloaded a bunch of sounds for BBM, MSN, and ring tones all for free!

Has anyone ever been without their BB for a whole day? I forgot mine at home and the whole day it felt like something was missing.:chuckle

[Thrizzl3]

I just ordered Bubble Popper from Crackberry.com. I also downloaded a bunch of sounds for BBM, MSN, and ring tones all for free!

Has anyone ever been without their BB for a whole day? I forgot mine at home and the whole day it felt like something was missing.:chuckle

haha i know the feeling:chuckle

[All-Star]

I just ordered Bubble Popper from Crackberry.com. I also downloaded a bunch of sounds for BBM, MSN, and ring tones all for free!

Has anyone ever been without their BB for a whole day? I forgot mine at home and the whole day it felt like something was missing.:chuckle

I've been without my Storm for 1 month...I felt disconnected. No BBM, no email, no music, no camera, no voice notes, no GPS, no weather updates. That whole month waiting for my replacement Storm sucked! I felt ashamed when I had to pull out my LG TM250 (http://www.comparecellular.com/compare_phones_manufacturer_details.asp?l=&PhoneID=259) phone. It has a 2 color screen: green and black. I had to superglue the battery to the back of the phone because it wouldn't clip on anymore. The ringtones were so cheezy...it sounded like a bee dying.

Thank God I finally have another Storm!

[Riftler]

I just ordered Bubble Popper from Crackberry.com. I also downloaded a bunch of sounds for BBM, MSN, and ring tones all for free!

Has anyone ever been without their BB for a whole day? I forgot mine at home and the whole day it felt like something was missing.:chuckle

I'd feel so lost and uneasy all day long

[yearoftherat]

Has anyone ever been without their BB for a whole day? I forgot mine at home and the whole day it felt like something was missing.:chuckle

That's why they're called crackberries...:chuckle

[Ryan1986]

Has anyone ever been without their BB for a whole day? I forgot mine at home and the whole day it felt like something was missing.:chuckle

I forgot mine at home this morning, and that's exactly how I feel! lol *Huddles in Corner*

[Slade]

Ive only had it for 24hours and I couldn't imagine not having it lol.

Being in communication everyway possible is great when your on the go :)

Need to find a cheap microSD card so I can load it up :)

[Thrizzl3]

blackberry GPS is f*****g horrible..it made drive through farmland to get to agincourt mazda..yet all i had to do when i was on the 401 was get off at markham road and turn tight. The GPS told me to get off at morningside and go thru all the knicks and crannie streets and i still wasnt close to where i was supposed to be. I may need to fork up money for a real GPS soon.:flaming

[Ryan1986]

I hear the Google Maps application is much better than the Blackberry Maps.
I'm not sure if it truely uses GPS though; perhaps some other sort of system?

[S.F.W.]

blackberry GPS is f*****g horrible..it made drive through farmland to get to agincourt mazda..yet all i had to do when i was on the 401 was get off at markham road and turn tight. The GPS told me to get off at morningside and go thru all the knicks and crannie streets and i still wasnt close to where i was supposed to be. I may need to fork up money for a real GPS soon.:flaming
or jsut find a way to get google maps installed on the blackberry. It works very well. Hopefully nextt ime it won't take you 3 hours to find agincourt Mazda.
Karen, and I were certainly mocking you.

[insaini]

i did a test between blackberry maps and google maps ... and google maps is alot faster and more accurate ... use google maps!

[Thrizzl3]

anyone experience the blackberry trackballs move but dont scroll on the screen..its happening to my fone and i can't do anything

[JashiK]

lol phildo. move the ball around like crazy.

[Thrizzl3]

lol phildo. move the ball around like crazy.

tried that..nothing..:flaming

[S.F.W.]

anyone experience the blackberry trackballs move but dont scroll on the screen..its happening to my fone and i can't do anything
try wiping your phone and resetting. Make sure you back up your data first.
Could also be you need a new trackball.

[JashiK]

have u seen phildo's track ball? errr it's black. he needs to clean that. maybe even get it replaced.

[Thrizzl3]

try wiping your phone and resetting. Make sure you back up your data first.
Could also be you need a new trackball.

if i was to get a new trackball where would i get it from?

[laksman91]

if i was to get a new trackball where would i get it from?

pacific mall

[stormin84]

hey phil the track ball issue is why i went to the storm....been pretty happy with it so far

[SSmoked]

anyone experience the blackberry trackballs move but dont scroll on the screen..its happening to my fone and i can't do anything

phil i had the same problem on my pearl. just push the trackball down it will click back into place, well at least for me.

[insaini]

lol once ur trackball stops working ... dont try fixing it .. no point ... if its less then a year old you have warranty and rogers/telus will replace it for u ...

otherwise order it online from various sites ... but let me tell u one thing ... colored trackballs may look good .. but there so shit ... they slip and dont scroll properly and it gets really annoying .. either get a black oem ball or a white oem ball.

[Thrizzl3]

got my trackball replaced for free..1 min and i was out..wow

[tmpz]

Storm 2 :hawt

[Thrizzl3]

got a curve now..or should i have got a tour lol?

[All-Star]

The Tour is the best and latest one out right now. If you got the most recent Curve 89xx, that's not a bad phone either.

[plontoc]

Hey everyone...

Check out www.zedge.com...I used to download a ton of ringtones and sound effects from that site and its all free. AFAIK, they also have wallpapers and such.

[S.F.W.]

Hey everyone...

Check out www.zedge.com...I used to download a ton of ringtones and sound effects from that site and its all free. AFAIK, they also have wallpapers and such.

nice! Thanks.

[Dante]

My trackball used to be white, When it was brand new a month ago, Now its yellow. I own a pearl flip and I also notice that the outside gets scratched up pretty damn easily, the inside buttons also carry dirt which touches the inner screen and scratches it up when closed. The phone lags sometimes when I have unread notifications, I also really do hate that I'm notified of everything. Mail, SMS and Calls is fine, but nothing is stored as a separate entity.

[crystal8484]

Hey everyone...

Check out www.zedge.com...I used to download a ton of ringtones and sound effects from that site and its all free. AFAIK, they also have wallpapers and such.

another site I use is http://www.funformobile.com

basically people upload their own ringtones and wallpapers. It's got a ton of stuff, and usually has all the mainstream stuff you'd want.

[Slade]

I bought a 4gig SD card for my curve..I just use mp3s from it as ringtones = free.

For themes I usually surf crackberry.com and only get free themes..currently using the new PRO theme released. I grab my apps from there as well.

Only app worth paying for so far is Shazam I find. Anything else I can usually find something free that does the same thing.

[BiG-ED]

insider info from rogers.
the new bb (which im assuming is gonna be the 9700 or a variant of that) is launching next month. bye bye trackball, hello trackpad

[mzkaye729]

Ok, so I thought I'd post here since I have NEVER owned a Blackberry (I am an iPhone user and always will be)... but my mom just got herself a Rogers BB work cellphone. My question is, can these be unlocked (since we are all on Fido service) ? And how much do you think the unlocking would run for ?

[All-Star]

Ok, so I thought I'd post here since I have NEVER owned a Blackberry (I am an iPhone user and always will be)... but my mom just got herself a Rogers BB work cellphone. My question is, can these be unlocked (since we are all on Fido service) ? And how much do you think the unlocking would run for ?

If you take it to Pacific Mall (ie: Fido store by south entrance) you can get it done for $20-$30. Takes them a few minutes.

You might as well switch over too. We already went head to head and we know who came out on top. :star:winner:star

[All-Star]

insider info from rogers.
the new bb (which im assuming is gonna be the 9700 or a variant of that) is launching next month. bye bye trackball, hello trackpad

+1

The 9700 is the new Bold with trackpad. The 8520 Curve in this article also has a trackpad if I'm not mistaken. Good news for Rogers customers next month. Anyway here's the link (http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2009/09/11/blackberry-bold-9700-and-curve-8520-shows-up-in-rogers-upgrade-system/) to the article (http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2009/09/11/blackberry-bold-9700-and-curve-8520-shows-up-in-rogers-upgrade-system/).

[crystal8484]

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO just installed BBM 5.0 for my pearl.

it's pretty badass!!! it's pretty much similiar to that of MSN if I had to compare it to anything. Mutli chats, more icons, more options. It's pretty cool for now!! UNTIL it starts to mess up I'm sure. LOLLLL

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2447/3731475205_c192108f2c.jpg

[S.F.W.]

Ok, so I thought I'd post here since I have NEVER owned a Blackberry (I am an iPhone user and always will be)... but my mom just got herself a Rogers BB work cellphone. My question is, can these be unlocked (since we are all on Fido service) ? And how much do you think the unlocking would run for ?

you can also unlock it online for $5, see the post in current deals on the forum.

[mzkaye729]

you can also unlock it online for $5, see the post in current deals on the forum.

Ok, I'll have to look around for that thread. Thanks, Ami ~

[S.F.W.]

+1

The 9700 is the new Bold with trackpad. The 8520 Curve in this article also has a trackpad if I'm not mistaken. Good news for Rogers customers next month. Anyway here's the link (http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2009/09/11/blackberry-bold-9700-and-curve-8520-shows-up-in-rogers-upgrade-system/) to the article (http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2009/09/11/blackberry-bold-9700-and-curve-8520-shows-up-in-rogers-upgrade-system/).

Here is my quandary. I'm currently using a BB 8830 on Bell. I'm tempted to jump to Rogers for the 9700. The quandary is Bell is supposed to launch HSPA early next year. If HSPA is coming Q1 2010, I'd be willing to wait it out, but if it's actually going to be Q3-Q4, I don't want to wait that long.
Bell is getting the Storm2, but I have no interest in a touch screen BB.

[boogie]

Here is my quandary. I'm currently using a BB 8830 on Bell. I'm tempted to jump to Rogers for the 9700. The quandary is Bell is supposed to launch HSPA early next year. If HSPA is coming Q1 2010, I'd be willing to wait it out, but if it's actually going to be Q3-Q4, I don't want to wait that long.
Bell is getting the Storm2, but I have no interest in a touch screen BB.

I believe soft launch is supposed to be end of this year (Oct-Nov). I'd expect it early next year as they obviously want to have things fully functional for the Olympics.

[All-Star]

Here is my quandary. I'm currently using a BB 8830 on Bell. I'm tempted to jump to Rogers for the 9700. The quandary is Bell is supposed to launch HSPA early next year. If HSPA is coming Q1 2010, I'd be willing to wait it out, but if it's actually going to be Q3-Q4, I don't want to wait that long.
Bell is getting the Storm2, but I have no interest in a touch screen BB.

Yeah, one of my friends is in a similar scenario. He's with Bell but is also waiting for HSPA so he can get/use the new iPhone. I bet the cell provider game changes when HSPA goes into effect. Right now it's Rogers > Bell.

For those who haven't seen the NEW BOLD 9700, check this video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4-Xb9zRZi90). This phone is sick!!

[McGuyver_3]

I had the previous bold and went through almost 6 or 7 of them and ended up buying the javelin which i have replaced like 3 or 4 times aswell. These BB's are not meant for the stress that i put them through. I am on the phone alot texting or calling but these phones keep locking up on me freezing and simploy resetting on me right in the middle of use. Its not cool especially when you buy the phone outright for 750$ cash in hand no plan or any of that

[Sales 101]

Always make sure your phone has the lastest firmware loaded. When you buy a new phone it may already be 2 or more versions behind. A friend has a curve on on her forth replacement. Told her to get pissed at Rogers and demand a NEW phone no refirb or free upgrade to a Bold.

I use a Bold and have had no issues. Just uploaded 5.0 beta. Very nice features and browser much quicker.

[SilentJay]

I'm still using my storm on telus, and have been pretty happy with it's performance. Leaked OSes ftw! I'm kinda interested to play with the storm2 as it has a new screen system (no more dollar-store clicky screen apparently), and has muuuch more internal memory (= less crashing/freezing). Kind of upset they didn't implement the "snapdragon" processor (1ghz), but supposedly the storm1 guts with extra memory makes for a winning combination thus far.

Telus is also releasing it's HSPA (Bellus joint project) soon, projected to be at the very least large-group tested towards the end of the year. *cough* next gen iphone *cough*

[All-Star]

I'm still using my storm on telus, and have been pretty happy with it's performance. Leaked OSes ftw!

What OS are you running? I'm running Bell's official .151 and am pretty happy with it. I used to run a lot of leaks and hybrids before until I loaded .151. It's pretty quick and stable. I have had a few random reboots though but not enough to annoy me.

[SilentJay]

What OS are you running? I'm running Bell's official .151 and am pretty happy with it. I used to run a lot of leaks and hybrids before until I loaded .151. It's pretty quick and stable. I have had a few random reboots though but not enough to annoy me.

Yeah, i'm running .151, although a much earlier release, probably from another carrier. I've tried the later OSes, but have found that either they're super-fast but cannot run apps/have browsers missing, or that they're so completely buggy that it crashes every 5 minutes.

Funny thing though, I fully plan on bringing my phone in for extended warranty exchange for a new phone, and intend on loading one of those crappy OSes to prove how "defective" it is.

[FLIPDADY]

Anybody elses Javelin crash while surfing the internet? I'm on my second one already and it still does the exact same thing.

[crystal8484]

How do you guys always get 2nd, 3rd or even 4th BB's?! Are these all under warranty still - where they just give you a new one, or are you buying them. FRIG. I can't even get Bell to give me a full early hardware upgrade and I have been with them for probably 8-9 years!

[marvin24k]

I just upgraded to the Tour, it's a pretty decent unit. No issues so far. Hopefully it stays this way.

[Slade]

Anybody elses Javelin crash while surfing the internet? I'm on my second one already and it still does the exact same thing.

No issues on mine! Runs strong day in and day out. Running on Rogers. OS. 4.6

[All-Star]

How do you guys always get 2nd, 3rd or even 4th BB's?! Are these all under warranty still - where they just give you a new one, or are you buying them. FRIG. I can't even get Bell to give me a full early hardware upgrade and I have been with them for probably 8-9 years!

I'm on my 2nd Storm and yes it was under warranty. One of my friends is on his 3rd Storm. Again, under warranty. I've been with Bell for 10 years and they wouldn't budge to give me an in-store replacement. I had to wait a month. :flaming

[mzkaye729]

I'm on my 2nd Storm and yes it was under warranty. One of my friends is on his 3rd Storm. Again, under warranty. I've been with Bell for 10 years and they wouldn't budge to give me an in-store replacement. I had to wait a month. :flaming

LOVE the avatar hahaha BASSSTOS !

Anyway, why are these Storms breaking down ? Apparent lack of quality control now :chuckle

[All-Star]

LOVE the avatar hahaha BASSSTOS !

Anyway, why are these Storms breaking down ? Apparent lack of quality control now :chuckle

Hahah! Thought you would.

I'm gonna have to put my pride aside and agree with you lol. They are GREAT phones with great features, but as with anything first generation the build quality fell short and there were/are bugs.

When it works...it's awesome.

[Thrizzl3]

when i try to install BBM 5.0 on my 8330 i get an error saying unable to import ZIP? I also tried the desktop install..no luck..

[nitsuji]

when i try to install BBM 5.0 on my 8330 i get an error saying unable to import ZIP? I also tried the desktop install..no luck..

That's weird. We just did my friends last month OTA without an issue. Are you using the links at BerryReview?

[Thrizzl3]

tried everything..now it doesn't even download anymore..i think i might go back to my pearl it never gave me these kind of problems

[SilentJay]

Are you using app loader or bb desktop?


I went through 3 storms btw, and before that, 9 x curves. Thankfully, Telus actually values customers, and will do in-store swaps and/or early upgrades pretty frequently. I'm trying to wait out for the Telus HSPA network to go live and see what offerings are being put out.... otherwise I might get a Storm2 or 9700

[Thrizzl3]

Are you using app loader or bb desktop?


I went through 3 storms btw, and before that, 9 x curves. Thankfully, Telus actually values customers, and will do in-store swaps and/or early upgrades pretty frequently. I'm trying to wait out for the Telus HSPA network to go live and see what offerings are being put out.... otherwise I might get a Storm2 or 9700

well don't you need the DM to use the app loader? it doesn't work either way.

[cy88]

I'm trying to wait out for the Telus HSPA network to go live and see what offerings are being put out.... otherwise I might get a Storm2 or 9700

Hopefully Blackberry will release something that's compatiable with Rogers' new 21Mbps HSPA+ upgrade! :hawt It's a long shot, but I can always hope..

http://www.rogers.com/web/content/wireless_network?setLanguage=en&cm_mmc=Redirects-_-Consumer_Wireless_Eng-_-Network_0909-_-fastest

[S.F.W.]

I'm trying to wait out for the Telus HSPA network to go live and see what offerings are being put out.... otherwise I might get a Storm2 or 9700

I'm in the same position except with Bell. The storm 2 doesn't interest me, but the 9700 does.

[Ex-Rolla]

I'm in the same position except with Bell. The storm 2 doesn't interest me, but the 9700 does.

Yup! Can't wait to upgrade to the 9700! These trackballs are a pain in the ass so i can't wait to use a BB that doesn't have one.

[Thrizzl3]

FINALLY got BBM 5.0 on my phone..well last week but i'll be upgrading to the tour in a couple of weeks and i need to change my plan anyway..too much moola. sooo excited!

[All-Star]

FINALLY got BBM 5.0 on my phone..well last week but i'll be upgrading to the tour in a couple of weeks and i need to change my plan anyway..too much moola. sooo excited!

I'm tempted to DL that to my Storm but I heard it's a little buggy for some and for others it works fine. Regardless, I know it's sick! What phone are you using it on and how do you like it?

[Thrizzl3]

I'm tempted to DL that to my Storm but I heard it's a little buggy for some and for others it works fine. Regardless, I know it's sick! What phone are you using it on and how do you like it?

curve 8330..no problems whatsoever although the install was a pain.

[FLIPDADY]

curve 8330..no problems whatsoever although the install was a pain.
Did you find it from www.crackberry.com (http://www.crackberry.com) ?

[JashiK]

i'm on my 2nd BOLD. This one is good so far.... i'm afraid what will happen when it's out of warranty.

[Thrizzl3]

Did you find it from www.crackberry.com (http://www.crackberry.com) ?

yup but they had a tutorial on how to do it through DM

[All-Star]

So when I first got my Storm from Bell back in Dec.2008, I found out I had to pay an extra $5/mo. to use Windows Live Messenger (aka. MSN Messenger) on my phone. To confirm, I would run the app and i would get a message saying "Service unavailable". Fast forward to today; I found out that as of June 2009 it's now covered/free under my plan. Thanks for letting me know Bell...thanks! :complain

*btw, my plan is the "Blackberry/Smartphone Combo 45 Ext. Hours" in case any of you Bell customers are wondering.

[Thrizzl3]

Tour FTW! DL BBM 5.0 in a flash damn. so much easier to use..but i think it should have come with a touch pad.

one question..im with telus and my phone came with a simcard?? i understand that its a world phone but the guy said that it was prepared for the big switch from cdma to GSM.

[yearoftherat]

Yep..Telus and Bell are switching to GSM next yr:

http://wirelessnorth.ca/2008/07/18/telus-and-bell-to-go-gsm-in-2010/

[boogie]

Tour FTW! DL BBM 5.0 in a flash damn. so much easier to use..but i think it should have come with a touch pad.

one question..im with telus and my phone came with a simcard?? i understand that its a world phone but the guy said that it was prepared for the big switch from cdma to GSM.

FYI...the Tour isn't going to be compatible w/ the new HSPA network...

http://www.intomobile.com/2009/08/17/telus-blackberry-tour-and-storm-wont-play-nice-with-upcoming-hspa-network.html

[Thrizzl3]

FYI...the Tour isn't going to be compatible w/ the new HSPA network...

http://www.intomobile.com/2009/08/17/telus-blackberry-tour-and-storm-wont-play-nice-with-upcoming-hspa-network.html

WTF!..so why keep selling them:loco

[FONZ]

Upgraded to the Bold.

What's the latest OS for it?

[All-Star]

Upgraded to the Bold.

What's the latest OS for it?

Latest leaked or official OS??? If you're looking for the latest official OS, you can usually get that through your Desktop Manager (unless you're on a Mac), or through your provider's site (Rogers?), or you can look here (http://www.blackberryos.com/forums/9000-operating-software/34-official-released-operating-software.html).

If you're looking for the latest leaked OS, go here (http://www.blackberryos.com/forums/9000-operating-software/33-leaked-beta-operating-software.html).

[All-Star]

For all you Mac users, Blackberry Desktop Manager should be released today around 1pm.

http://crackberry.com/download-blackberry-desktop-manager-mac

[BoostieMonster]

Got a new Curve 8900 last week, the back cover when fully locked lifts up at the sides VERY easily, as in you can put your nail in the gap and just pull it up a few mm's. I called Rogers and they're like "oh they're all like that"....then I went to my buddy's house to see his, and it doesn't do that. Called them back and they're sending me a brand new phone LOL.

Also, has anyone ever wondered what happens if when you send back your phones in the provided pre-paid envelopes that if it ever got lost in the mail they would still charge you? I mean its not registered mail, so there's no proof you ever sent it. So I guess what I'm saying is you could be an honest person and send the defective phone back in the mail and if it doesn't get there you get screwed and charged.....or you be dishonest and say you sent it back and keep both phones and when they go to charge you, you plead the case that Rogers should have pre-paid registered mail, and they take the same risk the consumer would when shipping regular.....

[sauga_kid]

For all you Mac users, Blackberry Desktop Manager should be released today around 1pm.

http://crackberry.com/download-blackberry-desktop-manager-mac

Can't wait, PocketMac just doesn't cut it.

[sauga_kid]

Wohoa, DM for Mac is now available!

[All-Star]

Wohoa, DM for Mac is now available!

Good, now I can get my Macbook Pro! :)

[Slade]

Curious what apps everyone has on their phone..

My list

Capture It
Facebook
680 News / Traffic Cams
Shazam
BerryUnitConverter
Viigo
MSN
BTSidekick (Awesome!)
Yellowpages App


All are free aswell :),

[FLIPDADY]

Anyone have the link to BBM 5.0? The last one I tried is gone.

[sauga_kid]

Here you go Joe:

http://blackberryrocks.com/2009/07/28/blackberry-messenger-5-0-zip-ota-download-links/

[All-Star]

Curious what apps everyone has on their phone..


BB Storm

Poynt (http://mypoynt.com/)
UberTwitter (http://www.ubertwitter.com/)
Facebook
Myspace
Windows Live Messenger
Shazam
Google Maps
Pageonce (http://www.pageonce.com/)
Vlingo
One Touch Flashlight
QuickPull <--- everyone should have this and run it once a day

[All-Star]

Looks like BBM 5.0 will be released officially (http://crackberry.com/new-blackberry-messenger-launch-october-7th) tomorrow! No more leaked/beta/buggy versions. This is it!

[rktsci]

Also, has anyone ever wondered what happens if when you send back your phones in the provided pre-paid envelopes that if it ever got lost in the mail they would still charge you? I mean its not registered mail, so there's no proof you ever sent it. So I guess what I'm saying is you could be an honest person and send the defective phone back in the mail and if it doesn't get there you get screwed and charged.....or you be dishonest and say you sent it back and keep both phones and when they go to charge you, you plead the case that Rogers should have pre-paid registered mail, and they take the same risk the consumer would when shipping regular.....

in my dealings with Rogers they require you to return the device with UPS and they provide you with the prepaid shipping label and tracking number. As long as you can show that the unit was received by UPS then you're done!

[BoOdOg]

BBM 5 tomorrow can't wait. Hopefully an official release of OS 5 soon too, I seen all the leaks for storm but using 167 works great only OS I have actually seen recover memory.

[Thrizzl3]

BBM 5 tomorrow can't wait. Hopefully an official release of OS 5 soon too, I seen all the leaks for storm but using 167 works great only OS I have actually seen recover memory.

didn't you see the leaked versions of 5.0? i already have it.

[wtom]

Those of you with the 8900 (second gen Curve), does it ever get lag? i.e. either typing or scrolling response is slow and/or you get the hourglass and can't do jack until it's done?

I get all of the above with the first gen Curve (83xx, tried different OS versions too) and it's hella annoying especially when I need to make a relatively urgent call.

[Thrizzl3]

Those of you with the 8900 (second gen Curve), does it ever get lag? i.e. either typing or scrolling response is slow and/or you get the hourglass and can't do jack until it's done?

I get all of the above with the first gen Curve (83xx, tried different OS versions too) and it's hella annoying especially when I need to make a relatively urgent call.

when i had my curve it did that when i was surfing the internet..it was sooo annoying that it got to the point where i had to take out the battery. those phones need more on-board memory

[BoOdOg]

I seen the leaked OS 5 but never installed I installed a early copy of OS 5 and my phone sucked so back to 167 for now should probably get that leaked full OS 5

[Slade]

Those of you with the 8900 (second gen Curve), does it ever get lag? i.e. either typing or scrolling response is slow and/or you get the hourglass and can't do jack until it's done?

I get all of the above with the first gen Curve (83xx, tried different OS versions too) and it's hella annoying especially when I need to make a relatively urgent call.


Im noticing mine is starting to lag now :(, after I have loaded it with apps and themes..I have a 4gig SD card in mine, but from what I have been reading you cannot install apps to it, so they all go on the internal memory.

[SilentJay]

For those, like me, operating with limited application memory, and are technically inclined, I suggest you "shrink" the OS before installing it onto your device.

[BoostieMonster]

I got the BB Curve 8900 a couple weeks ago, and found that the back cover at the bottom where the side "tabs" are located its not secure. As in..if i put my nail in the groove and pull up it easily gaps....and i'm talking when the bottom clasp is secure. Anyone else find this? I had Rogers send me a new phone and again same thing....

[BiG-ED]

bbm 5.0 release today
8520 curve releases on rogers supposedly in 2 days.
still waiting on the launch of the 9700

[Slade]

bbm 5.0 release today
8520 curve releases on rogers supposedly in 2 days.
still waiting on the launch of the 9700

no Bbm 5.0 (official) here yet..been waiting all day for it :flaming

[sauga_kid]

You and I both

[Thrizzl3]

you guys didn't download it OTA?

[sauga_kid]

The official release? Its not out yet ASFAIK

[Thrizzl3]

lol so the beta version i have maybe different from the real version or will it be the same..im yet to see.

[wtom]

For those, like me, operating with limited application memory, and are technically inclined, I suggest you "shrink" the OS before installing it onto your device.

What's your "File Free" memory after a fresh reboot? I did the custom OS install and now hit about 26MB of file free after a fresh reboot.

[Slade]

from crackberry thread on bbm 5

BBM 5 (2.5) will pushed to devices starting at 8pm October 7th.
By: withteeth4 | Date: Wed, 10/07/2009 - 15:34
I can't give away my sources, but i can confirm to all that bbm 5 will be pushed via a (VPL) icon.

If the icon doesnt show, do a reboot or a register now and it should appear. This will start as of 8pm eastern time

[SilentJay]

What's your "File Free" memory after a fresh reboot? I did the custom OS install and now hit about 26MB of file free after a fresh reboot.

O.o Really? What apps do you have installed? I stay pretty constant around 45-48MB.

[Thrizzl3]

O.o Really? What apps do you have installed? I stay pretty constant around 45-48MB.

so im taking 63.8MB is good lol..nice quick surfing:chuckle

[SilentJay]

so im taking 63.8MB is good lol..nice quick surfing:chuckle

That's a good amount, but considering your phone started with twice the memory as the older units :p Do you have a lot of stuff installed?

[Slade]

BBM 5.0 is in app world..

[sauga_kid]

Rebooting!

[Thrizzl3]

That's a good amount, but considering your phone started with twice the memory as the older units :p Do you have a lot of stuff installed?

lol barely anything..

FYI i downloaded the new BBM 5.0 but it was the 5.0.0.33 version and i have the 5.0.8..should i upgrade or do i have the latest software

[All-Star]

The new BBM 5.0 is amazing!! I held off installing the leaked version that came out a while back. I knew about the features but never actually saw it in action. Here's a couple of new highlights:

1) BARCODE SCANNING: You're in the club, the music's crazy loud and you're trying to get someone's number/pin but you just can't hear him/her? But really you're afraid to get close because your armpits smell like skunk. NO PROBLEM! Just scan their barcode using the cam on your phone. DONE!

2) E-MAIL CHAT: You and your friend have successfully cheated on a multiple choice exam via BBM. Now you want to sell the answers to your colleagues who are writing it next? NO PROBLEM! Email your BBM conversation to those who pay up! DONE!

3) BLACKBERRY GROUPS: Rewind a bit...there's a bunch of students that want the answers and you want to make sure you get paid? NO PROBLEM! Create a BB Group called CHEATERS. Add those you know, and others can add those you don't. Then create a group calendar event with the meeting place and time. Go get your money! DONE!

4) SEND LOCATION: (Not sure if this is new or not) You paid one of your girls to spy on your boyfriend to see if he's really cheating. She follows him all the way to the other end of the GTA. Bam! Sure enough she ends up witnessing the kissing and hugging and holding hands. Unfortunately she doesn't exactly know where she is. NO PROBLEM! Tell her to hit Send Location and you get a map/link sent to your BB showing you where she is. You're on your way! Earrings off, heels in hand! DONE!

BBM 5.0...NO PROBLEM! :chuckle

[Thrizzl3]

damn i wanna try out the barcode scanning..looks sick

[sauga_kid]

Running BBM 5.0 now but I'm having issues seeing contact profile pics. Did a pull and still no proifle pics. Any ideas?

[Slade]

Send location is cool, I like it opens up on the map, definitely cool, the could be good when road tripping with people and you get separated.

Bar code is cool, you can save your barcode as a picture and upload it for others to scan.

Groups I doub't I will use much.

Broadcast message - by far awesomest, now I can spam my entire list at once. First thing I used after installing bbm 5.0, I spammed my list letting everyone know it was in app world.

I read that sms via BBM might be in the future..This would be awesome for me as work sort of frowns on sms'ing from our phones, as it's not in their corporate plan.

Profile pics are taking a while to load on mine too :|

[crystal8484]

Running BBM 5.0 now but I'm having issues seeing contact profile pics. Did a pull and still no proifle pics. Any ideas?

You have to manually set them or link them to that specific contact in your address book, if you have a photo of them set up when they call you. I think that's how it works. I only have select ones as well. Just the ones that I have set for photo caller ID or ones that I've manually set.

Try that maybe?? I'm not entirely sure :)

[Thrizzl3]

Running BBM 5.0 now but I'm having issues seeing contact profile pics. Did a pull and still no proifle pics. Any ideas?

do your other contacts have bbm 5.0?

[wtom]

O.o Really? What apps do you have installed? I stay pretty constant around 45-48MB.

How the eff?

I'm using 8310 BTW. Total File is around 57 or 58MB for me.

I installed only what I needed from the OS package and on top of that only have Opera browser, Google Talk, MSN, an invoice/cheque splitter/calculator and now BBM 5.

Opera use to be able to get me online but now the newer version I installed doesn't :( I don't have full data :chuckle

[sauga_kid]

do your other contacts have bbm 5.0?

Yup, apparently it takes a while to change though from what I've been reading.

[wtom]

Looks like BBM5 is a memory hog. My File Free is dropping to 19MB and I've deleted Opera Mini off my phone. Last battery-pull was last night!

[Thrizzl3]

Looks like BBM5 is a memory hog. My File Free is dropping to 19MB and I've deleted Opera Mini off my phone. Last battery-pull was last night!

i had to pull my battery last night after i installed the app world update..took 20 mins WTF..and i wish these phones would boot up faster after puling the battery..

[JSI]

No kidding, took me way to long to install BBM 5.0.

[BiG-ED]

Rogers to launch the BB Bold 9700 (onyx) oct 26th?

http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2009/10/09/blackberry-9700-launching-on-rogers-october-26th/

my source at rogers says dec-jan tho...
so conflicted

[crystal8484]

Has anyone else been experiencing eye gouging slow data transfers on the Bell network in the last 2-3 days?! I'm about to rip my face off. Takes 20 mins to send a photo, or 5 mins to send/receive bbm's, don't even talk about email.

I'm about to throw this piece of shit into lake Ontario!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :flaming

[S.F.W.]

Has anyone else been experiencing eye gouging slow data transfers on the Bell network in the last 2-3 days?! I'm about to rip my face off. Takes 20 mins to send a photo, or 5 mins to send/receive bbm's, don't even talk about email.

I'm about to throw this piece of shit into lake Ontario!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :flaming

I've been having similar issues. I did a bettery pull reset, and it helped marginally.

[SilentJay]

For those of you tempted, here's a heads up:

- I backed up my personal BB messenger's contacts against an email address
- For convenience-sake, I restored the list onto my work BB

Now everyone I message via the work BB thinks i'm messaging them from my personal BB. It seems restoring a messenger list from another device also sticks the original PIN onto the restored device.

[crystal8484]

I've been having similar issues. I did a bettery pull reset, and it helped marginally.

I did that 3 times last night and still nothing. Even left it out for a good 5-10 minutes. Hopefully today is a better day. ohhh new Bell network, come quicker.

[S.F.W.]

I did that 3 times last night and still nothing. Even left it out for a good 5-10 minutes. Hopefully today is a better day. ohhh new Bell network, come quicker.

ya, as soon as they launch the new network, I'm buying a Bold2 9700..

[SilentJay]

I'd surmise that whenever they launch the new network, their cdma service isn't going to get much better unelss a significant number of their current clients migrate to the new network.

[SilentJay]

The Bold2 feels nice (I played with it about 2-3 weeks ago), but I was reading something about the mobile processors out there, and it seems RIM really cheaped out on this one. It's a bit more power efficient than the original, but offers no processor-related advantages. It does, however, come with an additional 64mb of application memory over the orignal.

The realist in me is screaming for me to stay away from the storm2/iphone, but the kid in me is really curious about it. I played with a pre-production storm2 in August, and it's a totally different machine...

[S.F.W.]

The Bold2 feels nice (I played with it about 2-3 weeks ago), but I was reading something about the mobile processors out there, and it seems RIM really cheaped out on this one. It's a bit more power efficient than the original, but offers no processor-related advantages. It does, however, come with an additional 64mb of application memory over the orignal.

The realist in me is screaming for me to stay away from the storm2/iphone, but the kid in me is really curious about it. I played with a pre-production storm2 in August, and it's a totally different machine...

I played with a storm2 fairly recently at RIM. I don't think I could get used to the touch screen typing, as I really do prefer the keyboard.

[crystal8484]

ya, as soon as they launch the new network, I'm buying a Bold2 9700..

Ooo the Bold2 does look really nice. What to dooooo.
http://news.softpedia.com/newsImage/BlackBerry-Bold-2-Priced-at-249-on-Bell-2.jpg

Now it's just trying to get one through Bell and their tight ass rules and policies and arghhh. I love how they treat 9 year customers...

[SilentJay]

Come to the dark side! Telus loves youuuu....

[FONZ]

A friend of mine currently has the Blackberry Onyx 9700. However, it could be an early production. It works with Rogers. Almost everything works but except as soon as someone calls him, the screen turns white and shuts off. However, his Onyx has a trackball and his OS is 5.1. I talked to a friend of mine who works at RIM and he confirmed that the phone that my buddy has is indeed the Blackberry Onyx 9700. Keep in mind, He has had this phone in Toronto 6 months ago.

Whoever I tell this too, no one believes me. I guess I have to get Phil and show him in person to confirm it.

[Thrizzl3]

this i gotta see

[S.F.W.]

A friend of mine currently has the Blackberry Onyx 9700. However, it could be an early production. It works with Rogers. Almost everything works but except as soon as someone calls him, the screen turns white and shuts off. However, his Onyx has a trackball and his OS is 5.1. I talked to a friend of mine who works at RIM and he confirmed that the phone that my buddy has is indeed the Blackberry Onyx 9700. Keep in mind, He has had this phone in Toronto 6 months ago.

Whoever I tell this too, no one believes me. I guess I have to get Phil and show him in person to confirm it.

it's a pre-production unit. The final release has a trackpad instead of the trackball.

[SilentJay]

^^ Yep, and it's probably running a really bad release of the OS.

[SilentJay]

I played with a storm2 fairly recently at RIM. I don't think I could get used to the touch screen typing, as I really do prefer the keyboard.

I swore I couldn't do touch-screen when I got the storm, but I eventually did - if someone can type on a Storm1, you can type on anything :chuckle

[Thrizzl3]

I swore I couldn't do touch-screen when I got the storm, but I eventually did - if someone can type on a Storm1, you can type on anything :chuckle

i hate the storm lol

[stormin84]

oh come on the storm ain't that bad...

[Thrizzl3]

oh come on the storm ain't that bad...

well for some ppl its a bad phone lol

[FONZ]

Random Question - When you get a replacement phone from your carrier. Is it usually refurbished ones?

[SilentJay]

It definately has it's quirks, bugs, and pitfalls - but it's a decent phone if you can overcome/overlook them.

I saw my friend again at a party tonight - he had the Verizon onyx and the storm2 on him. I can almost 100% say that I won't be getting the storm2 now. As much as I love the huge screen, the click is almost completely gone now. You really have to mash on the screen to get it to do what you want, and the click response just feels like... you're not supposed to click, and you're actually breaking the backing :P Onyx is nice though - He has what is supposed to be the shipping OS loaded on it, and it's really responsive. So for now, its iPhone 3GS or Onyx.

[SilentJay]

Random Question - When you get a replacement phone from your carrier. Is it usually refurbished ones?

Telus will first search through every nook and cranny in their warehouse for a refurbed unit. Through my 8 curve ordeal, 1 of the units was brand new. The rest were really poorly refurbished units.

[bman13]

Random Question - When you get a replacement phone from your carrier. Is it usually refurbished ones?


Telus will first search through every nook and cranny in their warehouse for a refurbed unit. Through my 8 curve ordeal, 1 of the units was brand new. The rest were really poorly refurbished units.

Same goes for Rogers/Fido.

[zoomzoom33]

dumb question, whats is the difference btw the storm and storm2? Is it just software upgrades or does the phone look completely different? I find alot of ppl here dont have any good reviews of the phone, why is that? My friends in hong kong and is bringing a white colored version of it back for me in a few weeks and wanted to find out the difference btw the two. sorry for the noob questions.

[SilentJay]

They are identical as far as processor and camera goes, but the storm2 does have more internal memory. The screen is really the only thing that stands out between the two models; the storm1 has a clickable screen that is supposed to simulate pressing a key, supported by a single button mechanism under the screen.

The storm2 has 4 "piezo" (spelling?) mechanisms under the screen, and is supposed to be able to accomodate multiple simultaneous keystrokes. Having owned the Storm1 and playing with the storm2, I personally find that the Storm2 is built on an already "non-preferred" platform. The new clickable screen is stiff and unresponsive.

[bman13]

They are identical as far as processor and camera goes, but the storm2 does have more internal memory. The screen is really the only thing that stands out between the two models; the storm1 has a clickable screen that is supposed to simulate pressing a key, supported by a single button mechanism under the screen.

The storm2 has 4 "piezo" (spelling?) mechanisms under the screen, and is supposed to be able to accomodate multiple simultaneous keystrokes. Having owned the Storm1 and playing with the storm2, I personally find that the Storm2 is built on an already "non-preferred" platform. The new clickable screen is stiff and unresponsive.

If anyone can, wait a few weeks for the Bold 2. That will be what I will have first week its out.

[SilentJay]

I'm really struggling with the decision now. iPhone? Bold2? I have unlimited data for $15, but that's probably only for the old network, and it has to be on a blackberry...

[Thrizzl3]

I'm really struggling with the decision now. iPhone? Bold2? I have unlimited data for $15, but that's probably only for the old network, and it has to be on a blackberry...

bold 2..stick to your blackberry roots =D

[BiG-ED]

^ speaking of the bold 2
anyone have updates on the launch date?

[crystal8484]

I think they're all being shipped out this week to stores for set up/inventory, and launch dates are I think the first week of November. But that's speculative to internet findings. haha

[bman13]

Word from someone internal is second week of November but I heard as early as the week of Oct 26th...I'd say anywhere in between is when you could expect it.

[Thrizzl3]

i have a small problem with my tour. If i have alot of stuff in the messages folder and i want go to delete it..the messages will stay there. if i exit the folder and go back in it gives me a java error..wtf? Hard reset is my only option

[stormin84]

Phil. Is it a memory error because I get that error when I reboot.

[Thrizzl3]

nope its an file that didn't execute right so i have to reboot my phone everytime that happens. no errors on reboot tho but i thought u updated the files??

[gibbons3]

idk if anyone has mentioned this before but sometimes when my bb get slow i delete the event log, hold the shift button and press L then G then L then G, kinda random but i thought id throw it out there

[Thrizzl3]

idk if anyone has mentioned this before but sometimes when my bb get slow i delete the event log, hold the shift button and press L then G then L then G, kinda random but i thought id throw it out there

i just tried that nothing happened..

[gibbons3]

what kinda of bb do you have? i have the pearl 8130, its worked on my friends curve aswell

[Thrizzl3]

what kinda of bb do you have? i have the pearl 8130, its worked on my friends curve aswell

Blackberry tour 9630

[She_Prime]

he has a Tour

[gibbons3]

i meant to say alt button, not shift, sorry

[Thrizzl3]

i meant to say alt button, not shift, sorry

lol what does it do for you?

[gibbons3]

it seems to work a bit faster thats all,

[gibbons3]

heres a link i found that talks about it
http://techguyandstuff.wordpress.com/2009/01/26/blackberry-memory-clear-the-event-log/

[Thrizzl3]

heres a link i found that talks about it
http://techguyandstuff.wordpress.com/2009/01/26/blackberry-memory-clear-the-event-log/

nice! i had alot of stuff in the memory folder damn..

[gibbons3]

haha ya me too, the first time i tried this it froze cause i guess it was deleting so much

[Thrizzl3]

oh how i wish the tour had wifi...those of you that are getting the bold 2..does it come with wifi?

[S.F.W.]

oh how i wish the tour had wifi...those of you that are getting the bold 2..does it come with wifi?

yes Bold2 has wifi, and 3.2MP camera.

[Thrizzl3]

yes Bold2 has wifi, and 3.2MP camera.

my phone has a 3.2MP camera too..just no wifi. good thing i have a itouch haha

[SilentJay]

Lugging around multiple devices = :(


I'm kinda disappointed BB didn't step up to the plate and put in a better camera. I'm not solely referring to the MP on the cameras, but rather other attributes like their low-light function.... it sucks!

[Thrizzl3]

the flash is a lil bright lol

[crystal8484]

yes Bold2 has wifi, and 3.2MP camera.

Ami, if you get the 9700's for work, get an extra one somehow!! hahahaa I WILL BUY IT OFF YOU!!!!!!!

[sauga_kid]

my phone has a 3.2MP camera too..just no wifi. good thing i have a itouch haha
I'm in the same boat Tour + iTouch FTW! Not too concerned about the camera quality as I don't use it all that often and I prefer browsing on the iTouch more anyway...I'm hoping BB improves the browsing with their new acquisition.

[Dante]

I just got a 8330 curve off virgin for free.. Sweet..

I updated it to 5.0 230 leaked OS, changed the theme to resemble bold. Looks awesome, but is there a later OS or maybe official?

Any other hacks for this phone? My pearl flip was nice but unfortunately hit the dust.

[undftd]

changedthe faceplate/bezel for my Bold the other day, what do you guys think? keep it red or change it back to stock?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v642/zooyork_bape/DSC02371.jpg

[sauga_kid]

It looks okay, but I think the red is too bold (no pun intended) I say go back to stock.

[JovianGhost]

I've got a question.
Is there any way I can transfer my contacts from my Blackberry Curve 8310 to my Mazda 3 GS? It has to be transferred via Bluetooth. This appears to be the ONLY functionality that the Blackberry can't do, unless I've missed something.

[undftd]

It looks okay, but I think the red is too bold (no pun intended) I say go back to stock.
yeah that was what I was thinking, that red might be a bit much on a phone, its a really nice red though...

[chinsterr]

Will the 9700 released from rogers be the EXACT same as the one released on bell ?

Ex. Can I use my buddy's 9700 from rogers on the bell network?

[Thrizzl3]

Will the 9700 released from rogers be the EXACT same as the one released on bell ?

Ex. Can I use my buddy's 9700 from rogers on the bell network?

is 3G gonna be like HSPA?? if so then i guess it will work..

[bman13]

Will the 9700 released from rogers be the EXACT same as the one released on bell ?

Ex. Can I use my buddy's 9700 from rogers on the bell network?

If its unlocked, you will be able to (don't hold me to that). Telus, I know will have the 9700 so Bell should have it as well.

[BiG-ED]

the 9700 is up on the rogers site now.

http://www.rogers.com/web/Rogers.portal?_nfpb=true&Ntt=9700&_pageLabel=search&N=11

[SilentJay]

I was playing with the Bold1 last night, on Telus' HSPA network... They still have a few quirks to work out, as my speed was varying pretty wildly.

[crystal8484]

the 9700 is up on the rogers site now.

http://www.rogers.com/web/Rogers.portal?_nfpb=true&Ntt=9700&_pageLabel=search&N=11

this just made me giddy.

[Thrizzl3]

I was playing with the Bold1 last night, on Telus' HSPA network... They still have a few quirks to work out, as my speed was varying pretty wildly.

the HSPA network is up??

[SilentJay]

the HSPA network is up??


Yeah man, it's been up for months :P They are only letting "regular" customers sign up starting Wednesday for Bell and Thursday for Telus.

[crystal8484]

Yeah man, it's been up for months :P They are only letting "regular" customers sign up starting Wednesday for Bell and Thursday for Telus.

the trick for me now is to have them give me an upgrade. >:|

[SilentJay]

The thing that will suck though, is that they won't be carrying over any plans from their regular CDMA network over to the HSPA one. On top of this, any current plans that have unlim data will not be renewed.

[Thrizzl3]

Gahhhh wtf....had I known this before I would have waited to get a new phone!!!

[crystal8484]

The thing that will suck though, is that they won't be carrying over any plans from their regular CDMA network over to the HSPA one. On top of this, any current plans that have unlim data will not be renewed.

there goes my super sweet plan then.

[S.F.W.]

there goes my super sweet plan then.

check out www.etopia.ca . They've helped a few of my friends outs

[crystal8484]

check out www.etopia.ca . They've helped a few of my friends outs

this sort of scares me.. lol
but maybe i can try it out...

[SilentJay]

If they're like any of the other telecom "fee consultants", they pour over your calls and chargeable services used, and try find either billing mistakes or patterns and try to fit you into a better plan. Fees charged against corporate customers are often a percentage of what is saved after the changes take effect, i'm not sure how it works with regular accounts though.

[SilentJay]

there goes my super sweet plan then.

You and me both, sister... We won't know for sure if we can twist Telus' arm for better plans until their network goes live, but it doesn't look good.

[S.F.W.]

this sort of scares me.. lol
but maybe i can try it out...

Two of my friends ended up getting awesome plans for ~$35 per month, saving them around ~$30 per month. They also ended up getting a better deal on the hardware. They were charged ~$150 for the service.

[JSI]

the 9700 is up on the rogers site now.

http://www.rogers.com/web/Rogers.portal?_nfpb=true&Ntt=9700&_pageLabel=search&N=11


I'll by anyones Bold 9000 if they don't want it anymore :chuckle

[crystal8484]

You and me both, sister... We won't know for sure if we can twist Telus' arm for better plans until their network goes live, but it doesn't look good.

I don't even really care about HSPA to be honest... I just want a new BB as the pearl isn't cuttin' it anymore. 3G is more than enough and I've almost made the switch to Rogers a few times. Hell, if Bell won't even let me keep my sweet plan, then I might as well switch over. 3G is good enough.

[crystal8484]

Two of my friends ended up getting awesome plans for ~$35 per month, saving them around ~$30 per month. They also ended up getting a better deal on the hardware. They were charged ~$150 for the service.

Ok, so charged $150 for the service they provided, but how much did he get his blackberry for? I wonder if it's really worth it or not. I guess it doesn't hurt to inquire as to what can be done for me, I don't have to agree to go along with it right.. hmm.

[SilentJay]

You're on a Pearl? Man, what a trooper. In getting a new phone though, you may want to try calling themselves, and perhaps doing a little "social engineering" with a retentions service rep, and seeing what you can get on your own.

[crystal8484]

Trooper indeed, but I make due with what I have. It's not the worst phone I've had, I'm just picky and a stickler for new technology and pretty technology at that.

Oh, and Bell put up all their new phones and have info on the HSPA network now. I've been staring at the 9700 all morning. hahaha