2008.5 MS3 retired

[littleolme]

So, I traded in my MS3 this weekend for a full load Mazda6 GT V6. I found a deal that I couldn't pass up and it suits my families needs a bit better. It was fun while it lasted.

Cheers,
Phil

[Thrizzl3]

family comes first:)

[littleolme]

family comes first:)

Heh, don't get me wrong, the Mazda 6 is sweet. 278hp, heated leather, navigation, the goofy push button start, etc, etc, etc ... I think there's even a button that I could push that does my dishes at the same time :chuckle

It was the owner's demo and it has every conceiveable option except i-pod adapter ... which is ok by me, I prefer to use the aux jack anyway.

[Mazda3X2]

Wow, that didn't take you long Phil. I knew you were looking for something a little bigger but that was fast. The new MZ6's are pretty sweet looking, congrats.

Barry

[SKYMP3]

Is it the new 2010 Mazda 6?

What kind of deal you got to satisfy you over driving a Ms3?

[littleolme]

Is it the new 2010 Mazda 6?

What kind of deal you got to satisfy you over driving a Ms3?

No, 2009 ... I don't think the 2010s are available yet.

The MS3 was less than ideal for my family ... I have tall 16 and 17 year old boys and there isn't much room in the back for them. It's ok around town but a bit uncomfortable for them on longer road trips with the lack of leg room. I'm going to miss the "fun factor" of the MS3 but I have a 60km commute each way to work atm with little opportunity to let loose with it anyway.

As for the MZ6, I got about $8000 off of the MSRP plus free tinting and wheel locks. They gave me a decent value on my trade (but it's never as much as we want), far better than I have been offered anywhere else. When you factor in decent financing deals with low rates, plus the Mazda Owner Renewal Program, it was a no-brainer for me.

To be honest, I never would have looked at a MZ6 this loaded but for the price, I couldn't resist. Besides, I'm worth it :chuckle

[chinsterr]

I bet your 16 and 17 yr old sons don't agree with you !

[Gizzmo_jr]

I bet your 16 and 17 yr old sons don't agree with you !

Once they realize 265hp boosted vs 280hp N/A, they'll change their tune.

Nice car, my friend has an 08 without the Nav package.

[repoman_2]

Why thank you sir for the trade-in. Now to talk my wife into trading y 09 GS for the SPEED. I can dream, but doubt I'll get it

[SKYMP3]

Let us know the difference on the gas consumption between the 2.

3.7L V6 VS 2.3L Turbo

[TheMAN]

good luck with the car
there's tons of issues with the new 6, just like any first year car

aren't you going to be upside down on this deal? you should just stick to the ms3 for now

[littleolme]

good luck with the car
there's tons of issues with the new 6, just like any first year car


That's what warranty's for :)

[5_Alive]

good luck with the car
there's tons of issues with the new 6, just like any first year car

aren't you going to be upside down on this deal? you should just stick to the ms3 for now


Really? Do you have proof to back this up or are you speculating because you got brainwashed into the rumor of "first year cars have problems"?

I just want to know, because I haven't heard anything negative about these cars so far.

Congrats on the buy btw.. hopefully it'll be fun. I sure as hell love the new 6; its pimp..

[TheMAN]

oh, another one of those "I won't believe it till I see it" type persons :bana2

I've seen fit and finish issues with the new 6, recalls, and TONS of TSBs for it
I don't have to prove anything to you
if you don't want to believe me, I don't really care

[TheMAN]

That's what warranty's for :)
defects/issues are more EFFORT than it's worth
if you don't mind wasting time taking the car to the dealership (like taking days off for example), go for it

I rather buy a trouble free car
my 3 had nothing but exceptional service so far... there were a few minor defects that were fixed already... only 2 trips to the dealer total and that's it

[5_Alive]

oh, another one of those "I won't believe it till I see it" type persons :bana2

I've seen fit and finish issues with the new 6, recalls, and TONS of TSBs for it
I don't have to prove anything to you
if you don't want to believe me, I don't really care

Hence why I said, I want to know, because I haven't heard of any problems.
Remember, us Speed3 owners are allowed to be cocks.. :chuckle

(I'm being sarcastic and joking about everything, just so its clear, I'm not an ass)..

[Mazda3X2]

Hence why I said, I want to know, because I haven't heard of any problems.
Remember, us Speed3 owners are allowed to be cocks.. :chuckle

(I'm being sarcastic and joking about everything, just so its clear, I'm not an ass)..

You mean we're not allowed to be cocks?:whoa

[kid_icarus]

oh, another one of those "I won't believe it till I see it" type persons :bana2

I've seen fit and finish issues with the new 6, recalls, and TONS of TSBs for it
I don't have to prove anything to you
if you don't want to believe me, I don't really care

seemed like he was genuinely asking what issues you were aware of... cuz not many of us really know....

it'd be nice to just take your word for it but it helps the entire community out when you can provide some examples...

btw littleolme
i already said congrats to you
but congrats again and hope you enjoy your 6

[5_Alive]

You mean we're not allowed to be cocks?:whoa

That's why I put the :chuckle in..

Kid, I was honestly asking, I was being sarcastic about the whole "Really, etc.." but truly want to know..

[kid_icarus]

That's why I put the :chuckle in..

Kid, I was honestly asking, I was being sarcastic about the whole "Really, etc.." but truly want to know..

yeah man i know that
cuz i am curious too
was hoping he'd give more of an answer lol

[cy88]

defects/issues are more EFFORT than it's worth
if you don't mind wasting time taking the car to the dealership (like taking days off for example), go for it

I rather buy a trouble free car
my 3 had nothing but exceptional service so far... there were a few minor defects that were fixed already... only 2 trips to the dealer total and that's it

Please share your knowledge on the "defects" of the new Mazda 6. We all would like to learn something that we haven't heard of, and only you know.

FYI, nothing is guarantee to be "trouble free".

[littleolme]

I've kept an eye on Rosenthal Mazda'a site since I owned my Miata in 2005. While it's American, it gives us a good indication of what's going on with Mazda's in general, in regards to TSBs and recalls. Infact, I used their TSB to show one of the dealers here the issue with the sterios in certain VIN numbers (which included mine), an issue they weren't overly aware of.

There isn't a brand of car out there without issues. In regards to the 2009 MZ6, there are a few issues but nothing earth shattering. To be honest, it's not so much more than our MS3s or the regular MZ3s. Besides, as I said earlier, that's what warranty is for.

[cy88]

I think "TheMAN" should just be a man and stop the jealousy ;)

[Zoom Zoom Boy]

Please share your knowledge on the "defects" of the new Mazda 6. We all would like to learn something that we haven't heard of, and only you know.

FYI, nothing is guarantee to be "trouble free".

Recalls:

Make: MAZDA Model: MAZDA6
Model Year: 2009
Manufacturer: THULE, INC. Mfr's Report Date: MAR 31, 2009
NHTSA CAMPAIGN ID Number: 09E011000 N/A
NHTSA Action Number: N/A
Component: EQUIPMENT
Potential Number of Units Affected: 2323
Summary:
THULE, INC. IS RECALLING 2,323 OWNER-INSTALLED ROOF-MOUNTED FIT KITS, MODELS 3068 AND 3069, MANUFACTURED BETWEEN JANUARY 1, 2008 AND FEBRUARY 28, 2009 THAT ARE USED WITH THULE PODIUM FOOT PACKS, MODELS 460 AND 460R. THESE FIT KITS WERE SOLD AS AFTERMARKET EQUIPMENT FOR USE ON THE VEHICLES LISTED ABOVE. THE BOLT(S) USED TO SECURE THE FOOT TO THE VEHICLE WAS MANUFACTURED TO A HARDNESS THAT MAY CAUSE THE BOLT(S) TO BE BRITTLE AND POTENTIALLY BREAK UNDER STRESS.
Consequence:
THIS MAY RESULT IN THE BOLT(S) SNAPPING OFF DURING USE OR WITHOUT A LOAD. THE UNSECURED RACK AND LOAD CAN THEN COME LOOSE WHILE DRIVING CREATING A POTENTIAL ROAD HAZARD, POSSIBLY RESULTING IN A VEHICLE CRASH.
Remedy:
THULE WILL MAIL A RETRO FIT KIT ALONG WITH REPAIR INSTRUCTIONS TO OWNERS FREE OF CHARGE. THE SAFETY RECALL IS EXPECTED TO BEGIN ON OR BEFORE APRIL 13, 2009. OWNERS MAY CONTACT THULE TOLL-FREE AT 1-800-238-2388.
Notes:
THIS RECALL ONLY PERTAINS TO THULE AFTERMARKET ROOF MOUNTED LOAD CARRIERS AND HAS NO RELATION TO ANY ORIGINAL EQUIPMENT INSTALLED ON THE LISTED PASSENGER VEHICLES. OWNERS MAY ALSO CONTACT THE NATIONAL HIGHWAY TRAFFIC SAFETY ADMINISTRATION'S VEHICLE SAFETY HOTLINE AT 1-888-327-4236 (TTY 1-800-424-9153), OR GO TO HTTP://WWW.SAFERCAR.GOV .

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Make: MAZDA Model: MAZDA6
Model Year: 2009
Manufacturer: MAZDA MOTOR CORP Mfr's Report Date: FEB 03, 2009
NHTSA CAMPAIGN ID Number: 09V043000 N/A
NHTSA Action Number: N/A
Component: STRUCTURE:BODY:DOOR:HINGE AND ATTACHMENTS
Potential Number of Units Affected: 29000
Summary:
MAZDA IS RECALLING 29,000 MY 2009 MAZDA6. THE OUTER DOOR HANDLES MAY STICK WHICH MAY PREVENT THE DOOR FROM LATCHING. THIS SITUATION MAY ALLOW THE DOOR TO OPEN WHILE THE VEHICLE IS IN MOTION.
Consequence:
DRIVING THE VEHICLE WITH THE DOOR UNLATCHED COULD LEAD TO AN UNBELTED OCCUPANT BEING EJECTED AND COULD RESULT IN DEATH OR INJURY.
Remedy:
DEALERS WILL INSPECT THE DOOR HANDLES AND IF NECESSARY REPAIR OR REPLACE THE HANDLES FREE OF CHARGE. THE RECALL BEGAN ON FEBRUARY 13, 2009. OWNERS MAY CONTACT MAZDA AT 1-800-222-5500.
Notes:
MAZDA RECALL NO. 5209A. CUSTOMERS MAY ALSO CONTACT THE NATIONAL HIGHWAY TRAFFIC SAFETY ADMINISTRATION.


TSB's:

Make : MAZDA Model : MAZDA6 Year : 2009
Manufacturer : MAZDA MOTOR CORP
Service Bulletin Number : SB-08-001-09 Date of Bulletin : DEC 20, 2009
NHTSA Item Number : 10028486
Component : AIR BAGS:FRONTAL
Summary :
MAZDA: AIR BAG SYSTEM WARNING LIGHT FLASHING. THIS MAY BE CAUSED BY COATING ON THE TERMINALS ALLOWING OXIDATION. THE NEW TERMINALS HAVE A THIN COATING TO PREVENT OXIDATION. *PE

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Make : MAZDA Model : MAZDA6 Year : 2009
Manufacturer : MAZDA MOTOR CORP
Service Bulletin Number : SB-08-001-09 Date of Bulletin : DEC 20, 2009
NHTSA Item Number : 10028486
Component : AIR BAGS:FRONTAL:SENSOR/CONTROL MODULE
Summary :
MAZDA: AIR BAG SYSTEM WARNING LIGHT FLASHING. THIS MAY BE CAUSED BY COATING ON THE TERMINALS ALLOWING OXIDATION. THE NEW TERMINALS HAVE A THIN COATING TO PREVENT OXIDATION. *PE

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Make : MAZDA Model : MAZDA6 Year : 2009
Manufacturer : MAZDA MOTOR CORP
Service Bulletin Number : SB-08-001-09 Date of Bulletin : DEC 20, 2009
NHTSA Item Number : 10028486
Component : AIR BAGS:FRONTAL:DRIVER SIDE INFLATOR MODULE
Summary :
MAZDA: AIR BAG SYSTEM WARNING LIGHT FLASHING. THIS MAY BE CAUSED BY COATING ON THE TERMINALS ALLOWING OXIDATION. THE NEW TERMINALS HAVE A THIN COATING TO PREVENT OXIDATION. *PE

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Make : MAZDA Model : MAZDA6 Year : 2009
Manufacturer : MAZDA MOTOR CORP
Service Bulletin Number : SB-01-007-09 Date of Bulletin : FEB 11, 2009
NHTSA Item Number : 10028524
Component : ENGINE AND ENGINE COOLING:ENGINE
Summary :
MAZDA: VEHICLES MAY EXHIBIT A CONCERN OF UNSTABLE IDLING OR, IN SOME RARE CASES, STALLING, JUST AFTER THE VEHICLE STOPS WITH NO DTCS DETECTED. PROBLEM IS DUE TO THE ACCUMULATION OF CARBON DEPOSITS INSIDE THE THROTTLE BODY CAUSING AIR FLOW TO DECREASE. *PE

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Make : MAZDA Model : MAZDA6 Year : 2009
Manufacturer : MAZDA MOTOR CORP
Service Bulletin Number : SB-09-039-08 Date of Bulletin : NOV 25, 2008
NHTSA Item Number : 10028249
Component : ELECTRICAL SYSTEM
Summary :
MAZDA: SOME VEHICLES EQUIPPED WITH AUTO WIPERS AND HEADLAMPS AND PORT INSTALLED ACCESSORY HOMELINK/COMPASS MIRROR, MAY HAVE A CONCERN CAUSING THE AUTO FUNCTIONS TO BECOME INOPERATIVE. *PE

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Make : MAZDA Model : MAZDA6 Year : 2009
Manufacturer : MAZDA MOTOR CORP
Service Bulletin Number : SB-09-039-08 Date of Bulletin : NOV 25, 2008
NHTSA Item Number : 10028249
Component : ELECTRICAL SYSTEM:WIRING
Summary :
MAZDA: SOME VEHICLES EQUIPPED WITH AUTO WIPERS AND HEADLAMPS AND PORT INSTALLED ACCESSORY HOMELINK/COMPASS MIRROR, MAY HAVE A CONCERN CAUSING THE AUTO FUNCTIONS TO BECOME INOPERATIVE. *PE

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Make : MAZDA Model : MAZDA6 Year : 2009
Manufacturer : MAZDA MOTOR CORP
Service Bulletin Number : SB-09-037-08 Date of Bulletin : OCT 23, 2008
NHTSA Item Number : 10027444
Component : STRUCTURE:BODY:DOOR
Summary :
MAZDA VEHICLES: MAZDA SERVICE PROGRAM (MSP19)-WIND NOISE FROM DRIVER SIDE DOOR SASH/B PILLAR AREA. THIS MAY BE CAUSED BY SASH OR WINDOW CHANNEL BEING BUILT OUT OF SPECIFICATION. *PE

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Make : MAZDA Model : MAZDA6 Year : 2009
Manufacturer : MAZDA MOTOR CORP
Service Bulletin Number : SB-09-037-08 Date of Bulletin : OCT 23, 2008
NHTSA Item Number : 10027444
Component : STRUCTURE
Summary :
MAZDA VEHICLES: MAZDA SERVICE PROGRAM (MSP19)-WIND NOISE FROM DRIVER SIDE DOOR SASH/B PILLAR AREA. THIS MAY BE CAUSED BY SASH OR WINDOW CHANNEL BEING BUILT OUT OF SPECIFICATION. *PE

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Make : MAZDA Model : MAZDA6 Year : 2009
Manufacturer : MAZDA MOTOR CORP
Service Bulletin Number : SB-06-038-08 Date of Bulletin : OCT 23, 2008
NHTSA Item Number : 10027425
Component : EQUIPMENT:OTHER:OWNERS/SERVICE/OTHER MANUAL
Summary :
MAZDA VEHICLES: MAZDA SERVICE PROGRAM (MSP20)-GLOVE BOX STOPPER OVER TRAVEL MAY EXPERIENCE A GLOVE BOX CONCERN IN HIGH AMBIENT TEMPERATURE AND HEAVY LOAD CONDITION THAT RESULTS IN STOPPER OVER TRAVEL. *PE

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Make : MAZDA Model : MAZDA6 Year : 2009
Manufacturer : MAZDA MOTOR CORP
Service Bulletin Number : 07-005-08 Date of Bulletin : AUG 15, 2008
NHTSA Item Number : 10026828
Component : ELECTRICAL SYSTEM:STARTER ASSEMBLY:RELAY
Summary :
MAZDA: HVAC BLOWER MOTOR RELAY TERMINAL INSPECTION. 2009 MAZDA6 VEHICLES BUILT ON OR BEFORE AUGUST 8, 2008. BLOWER MOTOR RELAY TERMINALS THAT ARE NOT LOCKED IN PLACE AND MAY CAUSE A THERMAL DEFORMATION TO THE FUSE BOX HOUSING. *PE

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Make : MAZDA Model : MAZDA6 Year : 2009
Manufacturer : MAZDA MOTOR CORP
Service Bulletin Number : 07-005-08 Date of Bulletin : AUG 15, 2008
NHTSA Item Number : 10026828
Component : EQUIPMENT:ELECTRICAL:AIR CONDITIONER
Summary :
MAZDA: HVAC BLOWER MOTOR RELAY TERMINAL INSPECTION. 2009 MAZDA6 VEHICLES BUILT ON OR BEFORE AUGUST 8, 2008. BLOWER MOTOR RELAY TERMINALS THAT ARE NOT LOCKED IN PLACE AND MAY CAUSE A THERMAL DEFORMATION TO THE FUSE BOX HOUSING. *PE

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Make : MAZDA Model : MAZDA6 Year : 2009
Manufacturer : MAZDA MOTOR CORP
Service Bulletin Number : MSP-18 Date of Bulletin : AUG 01, 2008
NHTSA Item Number : 10026747
Component : ENGINE AND ENGINE COOLING:COOLING SYSTEM
Summary :
MAZDA: VEHICLES MAY HAVE IMPROPERLY INSTALLED HVAC BLOWER MOTOR RELAY TERMINALS ON THE ENGINE FUSE BOX. THE PURPOSE OF THIS CAMPAIGN IS TO INSPECT AND PROPERLY INSTALL THE TERMINALS IF NEEDED. *PE

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Make : MAZDA Model : MAZDA6 Year : 2009
Manufacturer : MAZDA MOTOR CORP
Service Bulletin Number : MSP-18 Date of Bulletin : AUG 01, 2008
NHTSA Item Number : 10026747
Component : ELECTRICAL SYSTEM:FUSES AND CIRCUIT BREAKERS
Summary :
MAZDA: VEHICLES MAY HAVE IMPROPERLY INSTALLED HVAC BLOWER MOTOR RELAY TERMINALS ON THE ENGINE FUSE BOX. THE PURPOSE OF THIS CAMPAIGN IS TO INSPECT AND PROPERLY INSTALL THE TERMINALS IF NEEDED. *PE

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Make : MAZDA Model : MAZDA6 Year : 2009
Manufacturer : MAZDA MOTOR CORP
Service Bulletin Number : MSP-18 Date of Bulletin : AUG 01, 2008
NHTSA Item Number : 10026747
Component : ENGINE AND ENGINE COOLING:ENGINE
Summary :
MAZDA: VEHICLES MAY HAVE IMPROPERLY INSTALLED HVAC BLOWER MOTOR RELAY TERMINALS ON THE ENGINE FUSE BOX. THE PURPOSE OF THIS CAMPAIGN IS TO INSPECT AND PROPERLY INSTALL THE TERMINALS IF NEEDED. *PE

[littleolme]

Not really what I would call a huge list. Many of those TSB affect the same system (ie. 5 for air conditioning, 3 for the air bags, etc).

http://www.finishlineperformance.com/store/pages.php?pageid=12

There are a bunch listed here for newer MZ3's as well, every car has it's share. I guess the long and short of it is that recalls and TSBs don't really scare me ... they are in place for a reason, anything that's not working properly will be addressed.

[Zoom Zoom Boy]

Not really what I would call a huge list. Many of those TSB affect the same system (ie. 5 for air conditioning, 3 for the air bags, etc).

http://www.finishlineperformance.com/store/pages.php?pageid=12

There are a bunch listed here for newer MZ3's as well, every car has it's share. I guess the long and short of it is that recalls and TSBs don't really scare me ... they are in place for a reason, anything that's not working properly will be addressed.

Agreed. BTW- I wasn't posting the list to try and prove anything or validate any of the points made. Just posted it as someone asked for the details. Helps get it all out on the table.

I'm sad to see another MS3 owner give up his ride, but I wish you all the best with the MZ6.

[5_Alive]

Well thank you for posting the info. up, I do appreciate it, as I'm sure others do as well.
Like mentioned above, quite a # of the TSB's affect the same thing, but nothing overly worrying.. The only thing worth being somewhat scared of is the door handle, not a major issue, nor the Thule roof rack.

The new 6 is a beauty and when the time comes, I may just step into one..