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mleblond
08-13-2009, 02:10 AM
Hey guys, I installed an catch can 2 weeks ago. Tonight I had to take it out to put my intake back on and noticed something was in there as well that my clear tube popped out so I had to fix as I was leaking oil from the OCC.
Anyways after making a mess (should of drained it first) here's what I got:
http://photos-d.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs147.snc1/5451_251721085450_692410450_8412107_1038511_n.jpg
Not much some may say. 2 weeks is not very long.
I did the install with the additional PCV valve. Ask Gizzmo_jr, the install made me feel like a little girl :chuckle the stock PCV valve is tight in behind the intake manifold. I burned my arm (this car never cools down) and used all the swear words in the french dictionary.
I would recommend this as a NEED for the speed3.
hatthi
08-13-2009, 07:46 AM
I've been considering this mod. Anyone inquired at their dealership about this voiding the warranty?
Unoriginalusername
08-13-2009, 07:54 AM
i know cta pat was one of the first to put one on locally and believe he's been happy with it as well. +1
Fobio
08-13-2009, 08:39 AM
2 weeks and you got that much?!
I went on for over 2 months and got about the same...with a lot of purposeful driving in between...and even a couple of oil changes.
EDIT: did you let the crud settle? did it settle into layers? When I poured mine out, I did NOT notice any water like the MSF guys did...but I also didn't let it sit in a cup overnight to see...
Gizzmo_jr
08-13-2009, 08:49 AM
Mat that's NASTY!!! Thank god we got that installed.
Did the level indicate tube pop out again?
kid_icarus
08-13-2009, 09:07 AM
gawd..... now i gotta think about installing one of these again.... sigh
mleblond
08-13-2009, 09:09 AM
Mat that's NASTY!!! Thank god we got that installed.
Did the level indicate tube pop out again?
yeah it popped and was leaking out.
Yes FObio, 2 weeks only. Letting it settle as we speak. I think it's mostly oil but could see some very small layers last night. The glass would be full if i didn't spill it on my driveway.
anyways there maybe more water later when meth gets installed.
Gizzmo_jr
08-13-2009, 09:19 AM
Mat, we can put new vinyl tube on instead. Like 50c from CT. The stuff on there might be to old and died out.
rick@garage16.ca
08-13-2009, 09:20 AM
Make sure the catch can has some type of vent/Crankcase Breather Filter on it.
kid_icarus
08-13-2009, 09:23 AM
is there any sort of general concensus/opinion of what the best catch can is for the price?
i think almost everyone one of you has a different can lol
Fobio
08-13-2009, 09:30 AM
Make sure the catch can has some type of vent/Crankcase Breather Filter on it.
Hey Rick...that's some good performance oriented advice! HOWEVER, if you vent your crankcase with a filter, you will violate, I believe envionmental protection laws...if you don't pass the sniff test by the cops if you ever get pulled over, I believe it's a $600+ ticket.
Obviously not an issue for track-only cars...
BTW, I'm running the Megan Racing catch can from Rick@gargae16. it's the same design as the Greddy one I believe mleblond is running.
mleblond
08-13-2009, 09:31 AM
Make sure the catch can has some type of vent/Crankcase Breather Filter on it.
not for the speed's, venting was not recommended from what I gather of the pcv system used. most cars just have the one line going to it vs this system needs to go back into the intake manifold. i guess you may T in a filter but havent seen any speeds with them.
rick@garage16.ca
08-13-2009, 09:33 AM
Hey Rick...that's some good performance oriented advice! HOWEVER, if you vent your crankcase with a filter, you will violate, I believe envionmental protection laws...if you don't pass the sniff test by the cops if you ever get pulled over, I believe it's a $600+ ticket.
Obviously not an issue for track-only cars...
BTW, I'm running the Megan Racing catch can from Rick@gargae16. it's the same design as the Greddy one I believe mleblond is running.
:bana
Yes your right on the filter but....just where the filter goes, just run a black line all the way onto the floor....almost like it looks like a stock hose :) this way cops cant really tell
Yes megan catch cans are SAME design as greddy and alot less in price :)
mleblond
08-13-2009, 09:34 AM
Hey Rick...that's some good performance oriented advice! HOWEVER, if you vent your crankcase with a filter, you will violate, I believe envionmental protection laws...if you don't pass the sniff test by the cops if you ever get pulled over, I believe it's a $600+ ticket.
Obviously not an issue for track-only cars...
BTW, I'm running the Megan Racing catch can from Rick@gargae16. it's the same design as the Greddy one I believe mleblond is running.
yep same.
I can run a GB on the greddy ones and see what kind of price I can get.
there's a how to make a OCC somewhere for like 12$. They all do the same in the end IMO.
rick@garage16.ca
08-13-2009, 09:43 AM
Greddy Catch Can retail like $129.99+tax
http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k298/4g63telantra/can1.jpg
Megan Catch can Garage16.ca $75 Flat
http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k298/4g63telantra/catchcan.jpg
= SAME
mleblond
08-13-2009, 09:56 AM
Greddy Catch Can retail like $129.99+tax
http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k298/4g63telantra/can1.jpg
Megan Catch can Garage16.ca $75 Flat
http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k298/4g63telantra/catchcan.jpg
= SAME
Yep I get the greddy ones for ALOT less tho :)
But Rick if you still have some in stock, link your thread and we will be good.
I want to know how bad others have it when they drain it.
kid_icarus
08-13-2009, 10:01 AM
So a quick checklist for the install would be
1. oil catch can
2. new oem pcv valve (as per part # listed in other threads)
3. hosing??
and that's it?
now that everyone has it installed is there a specific and "confirmed" dimensions for the hosing tubes required?
or is it completely dependant on the catch can you buy..
Fobio
08-13-2009, 10:04 AM
5/8" ID (internal diameter) vacuum resistant hose. I still have some available that's sutiable for install with the MSF write-up. The way Jimmy did it is very different and the goal was to allow ME access to the CC without jacking the car up...it's basically sitting right under my cone filter. This way, it takes more hose lonegth and requires a special DOUBLE layer hose going from the CC back to the intake.
5/8" is because that's what the intake width is and by making all other connectors 5/8", you can run the same hose throughout...
kid_icarus
08-13-2009, 10:08 AM
5/8" ID (internal diameter) vacuum resistant hose. I still have some available that's sutiable for install with the MSF write-up. The way Jimmy did it is very different and the goal was to allow ME access to the CC without jacking the car up...it's basically sitting right under my cone filter. This way, it takes more hose lonegth and requires a special DOUBLE layer hose going from the CC back to the intake.
5/8" is because that's what the intake width is and by making all other connectors 5/8", you can run the same hose throughout...
1) would you have enough available to do another install similar to yours (as setup by jimmy)
2) when you say "making all other connectors 5/8, does that require any adaptations/adators?
thanks for that info.
Fobio
08-13-2009, 10:16 AM
1) would you have enough available to do another install similar to yours (as setup by jimmy)
2) when you say "making all other connectors 5/8, does that require any adaptations/adators?
thanks for that info.
1) Yes. Pm me if interested.
2) Yes...these you can source from any inductrial supply store. The local Home Depot didn't have them...I'll link you to the thread about it.
Hose: http://www.torontomazda3.ca/forum/showthread.php?t=34457&highlight=catch+hose
Another CC discussion with sugegstions for fittings.
http://www.torontomazda3.ca/forum/showthread.php?t=33724&highlight=catch+hose
rick@garage16.ca
08-13-2009, 10:36 AM
well I know other models that replace the PCV with a open fitting and then a hose to it and then into a catch can
But you can run a PCV valve as well and will be just as fine :)
stormin84
08-20-2009, 06:26 PM
5/8" ID (internal diameter) vacuum resistant hose. I still have some available that's sutiable for install with the MSF write-up. The way Jimmy did it is very different and the goal was to allow ME access to the CC without jacking the car up...it's basically sitting right under my cone filter. This way, it takes more hose lonegth and requires a special DOUBLE layer hose going from the CC back to the intake.
5/8" is because that's what the intake width is and by making all other connectors 5/8", you can run the same hose throughout...
i believe this is why you are getting less then Matt's and myself (getting about half of what Matt gets in 2 weeks.)
Fobio
08-20-2009, 09:55 PM
i believe this is why you are getting less then Matt's and myself (getting about half of what Matt gets in 2 weeks.)
I don't disagree with you on that. My first choice would've been the Cobb recommended location...I'll leave it at that.
mleblond
09-21-2009, 10:25 AM
after 1 week this time: (cheese wiz bottle)
http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s147/mleblond/IMG00084-20090919-2022.jpg
stormin84
09-21-2009, 10:39 AM
^ that's exactly what mine looked like today....except not as much
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