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himaz
09-18-2009, 11:27 PM
I have a question regarding first Oil change , in the manual its written to change at 10,000 KM
some people here in Egypt says that I should change the motor oil and its filter first time at 1000 KM is that right ?
or could I make it firstly at 10,000 KM ( I believe to change it after 10,000 KM so what do you think technicians )

JashiK
09-18-2009, 11:32 PM
I believe the first oil that is in the car is break-in oil and usually is recommended to follow the owners manual.

aris
09-18-2009, 11:34 PM
I did what my owners manual says...mine said 8,000km so i did it at 8,000km

If your manual says 10,000km then do it at 10,000km

TheMAN
09-19-2009, 01:20 AM
1000km is really too soon... if you want to change it sooner than what mazda recommends, the soonest you should do it is at 5000km... you want to let the factory fill oil help your engine "run in" and seat the piston rings properly

after that, 10000km is what's recommended by mazda (it assumes you're using their Dexelia oil, which is very good quality)
5W30 or 10W40 is the recommended oil to use
oil filter is the same as 323 or 626... but you can use a larger one off a 929, Xedos 9, or 323F V6

himaz
09-19-2009, 05:02 PM
1000km is really too soon... if you want to change it sooner than what mazda recommends, the soonest you should do it is at 5000km... you want to let the factory fill oil help your engine "run in" and seat the piston rings properly

after that, 10000km is what's recommended by mazda (it assumes you're using their Dexelia oil, which is very good quality)
5W30 or 10W40 is the recommended oil to use
oil filter is the same as 323 or 626... but you can use a larger one off a 929, Xedos 9, or 323F V6

I have here 5w-50 (Mobile 1 OIL) is that okay ??
I want to change it after 10,000 is that also ok ?

TheMAN
09-19-2009, 05:27 PM
probably a bad idea to run 5W50 as it may cause problems with the variable valve timing actuator

McGuyver_3
09-19-2009, 05:31 PM
personally i did my first oil change at 2000km and have continued to do so every 2000km after change a filter at every 8000km

himaz
09-19-2009, 09:56 PM
probably a bad idea to run 5W50 as it may cause problems with the variable valve timing actuator

what the problem in 5W50?

I am not sure if i have other options here in my country ?

TheMAN
09-20-2009, 12:49 AM
its too thick!

Chester_Lampwick
09-20-2009, 12:55 AM
Umm I think this car might have completely different specs. 1600cc? Is it a diesel perhaps?

aris
09-20-2009, 02:36 AM
personally i did my first oil change at 2000km and have continued to do so every 2000km after change a filter at every 8000km


How come you don't change oil and filter at 8,000km...every 2,000km seems to soon don't you think

himaz
09-20-2009, 03:17 AM
Umm I think this car might have completely different specs. 1600cc? Is it a diesel perhaps?

No man , its Petrol engine , its Z6 engine
and here in Africa all mazda 3 cars are with same engine the Z6 - 1600 CC

anybody know how to contact mazda Japan ? or any authorized person ?

TheMAN
09-20-2009, 05:02 AM
Umm I think this car might have completely different specs. 1600cc? Is it a diesel perhaps?
umm yeah, why did I tell him what he needs to do and what to use?

TheMAN
09-20-2009, 05:04 AM
No man , its Petrol engine , its Z6 engine
and here in Africa all mazda 3 cars are with same engine the Z6 - 1600 CC

anybody know how to contact mazda Japan ? or any authorized person ?
I'm telling you exactly what I know and it's information out of the manual... no need to contact mazda japan, you should contact your local mazda dealer or ghabbour instead

pacmann33
09-20-2009, 09:26 AM
Changing the oil every 8k IMO is a bad idea, every 5k is the industry standard, I do oil in my cars religiously every 5k, I will change my oil for the first time at no more than 2,000kms.

Ever do your own oil change at 5k? it's disgusting at that point, I'd rather not have that crud in my engine for ANOTHER 3k. Also time that oil is in the engine matters, change it every 5k or 4 months, whichever comes first (blowby past the rings and other contaminants in the crankcase break down the lubricating properties of oil). Why not, oil is the lifeblood of your engine, it is cheap maintenance.

In my bikes I change my oil at 200kms, 500kms, 1000kms, and again when the odo reads 2000kms. I then change every 2000 kms after that. The amount of metal in the oil until like 5000kms is astonishing, though I realize cars do not have that much metal shavings in the oil as the transmission does not run in the same oil. Cheap cheap security guys. I change my oil in the bike before and after every trackday, which is about 150kms LOL.

pacmann33
09-20-2009, 09:27 AM
I have never blown an engine in a car or sportbike either. My last car was a 2001 Impala LS with 476,000kms on it. Didn't burn any oil, ran like a top when I sold it. I owned it from new also.

TheMAN
09-20-2009, 04:49 PM
Changing the oil every 8k IMO is a bad idea, every 5k is the industry standard, I do oil in my cars religiously every 5k, I will change my oil for the first time at no more than 2,000kms.

Ever do your own oil change at 5k? it's disgusting at that point, I'd rather not have that crud in my engine for ANOTHER 3k. Also time that oil is in the engine matters, change it every 5k or 4 months, whichever comes first (blowby past the rings and other contaminants in the crankcase break down the lubricating properties of oil). Why not, oil is the lifeblood of your engine, it is cheap maintenance.

In my bikes I change my oil at 200kms, 500kms, 1000kms, and again when the odo reads 2000kms. I then change every 2000 kms after that. The amount of metal in the oil until like 5000kms is astonishing, though I realize cars do not have that much metal shavings in the oil as the transmission does not run in the same oil. Cheap cheap security guys. I change my oil in the bike before and after every trackday, which is about 150kms LOL.
oil quality and recommendations are VERY different in other parts of the world... 5k is NOT the "industry standard" overseas.... it is only the accepted idea here in north america because of the predominance of very poor quality oils many years ago.... assuming egypt has the same higher quality oils available as europe, there is no reason to do 5k oil changes there

oil isn't oil anymore, and it's a sad fact that many (retail) oils available in north america are inferior to what's available in europe... you get what you pay for!

you must realize that car maintenance is a lot more expensive overseas and that includes motor oil... at the same time, many available are higher quality (and not available here) and have been rated/proven to last at least 10000km just fine... the color of the oil does not have direct correlation to the usefulness of the oil... people have ran UOAs on many quality BLACK oils and they still have plenty of life left!

McGuyver_3
09-20-2009, 05:10 PM
How come you don't change oil and filter at 8,000km...every 2,000km seems to soon don't you think

I have the oppertunity to change the oil every 2000km and i change the filter every 8 because i send it to the dealer to keep my warranty going

pacmann33
09-20-2009, 11:06 PM
Black oil doesn't mean it is bad, but it is doing it's job, for 40$ I'll change it. 5,000kms is industry standard for here, as in North America. Overseas is different for sure.

In the bike I can tell when it is time to change the oil like clockwork, the sythetic oil even gets a little notchy at 2,000kms, however it sings the 16,000RPM song fairly often, especially at the track, where I change oil more often.

I want to change my oil when it has some life left...like I said, cheap security!

TheMAN
09-21-2009, 02:44 AM
it's not "cheap security" when oil changes cost $140+ in other parts of the world and there is plenty of oil life still left in the oil, especially european market oils that typically last 10000km+... THAT is their "industry standard"