JBarone Short Shift Plate

[MRT_MS3]

I read a couple of threads on the US forum (mazda247.com) about this shift plate and a lot members are posting good reviews on this product. The purpose of the plate is to shorten the throw and to keep the stock shifters height. For more info about this, please read the threads below and his website.

Feedback/Comment Thread:
http://www.mazdas247.com/forum/showthread.php?t=123756509
http://www.mazdas247.com/forum/showthread.php?t=123755597

And if you have access to a machine shop or want to make your own, heres the HOWTO:
http://www.mazdas247.com/forum/showthread.php?t=123754670


His website to order:
http://www.jamiesplanet.com

some pics:
http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb66/Elementality987/Mazdaspeed3%20Mods/PA071287.jpg
http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb66/Elementality987/Mazdaspeed3%20Mods/PA071293.jpg

The kit includes:
1 Plate
1 Weight
Stainless Mounting Hardware
Loctite
Grease
Installation Instructions

Now I'd like to gauge interest about this item and if we can get enough guys, we can probably save on shipping cost. I don't plan to order all the kits for everyone but to have individually order them and have it shipped into one address. The kits comes in 3 colors (black, red & blue) and the price is 80$ USD shipped in the US but price might be a tad more shipping to Canada.

I've PM'd him a minute ago and he replied to see if he can get us discounts.
I will update everyone as soon as I hear from him today.

UPDATE (GB Prices/Payment):
5 - $77.50 USD
10 - $75 USD
15 - 70$ USD

We can save 15$ USD!! each if we can get 15 guys on this.

I will collect all the money from this GB and direct to into one payment to the seller. I'd rather have you paypal me the funds sicne I'm using paypal to pay him. Don't send any payment as of now. We'll wait 3 days before GB expires and see if we can get more interest.

This GB will expire at Nov. 3, 2009


If your interested, please put your name/color on the list:

1. MRT_MS3 - Black
2.
3.

[Fobio]

I'm about to pull the trigger as I've been in contact with him. If you can update price by today and it's enough of a difference I will join the GB. As of now, he's asking for $85USD shipped to my door. If it's not less than $75USD on the GB, I'll just order it straight from him.

[MRT_MS3]

Im hoping he'll give us some sorta discount depending who signs up on this gb.

[kid_icarus]

i believe i'd be interested in this.

i already have a short throw shifter

i assume there will be quite a nice difference with this plate added into the mix.

[Fobio]

i believe i'd be interested in this.

i already have a short throw shifter

i assume there will be quite a nice difference with this plate added into the mix.

I have the Cobb STS, and the concensus is that having a STS and the plate is overkill. The reason I'm considering it is for fitment issues of the stock shifter weight/plate if I get a FMIC.

[kid_icarus]

I have the Cobb STS, and the concensus is that having a STS and the plate is overkill. The reason I'm considering it is for fitment issues of the stock shifter weight/plate if I get a FMIC.

ahhh overkill

okay then i retract my interest lol

thanks for the heads up fobio

[oneurt]

I already placed my order. lol dang if I woulda held off just a few days and saw this thread!

[Fobio]

as of right now, I'm holding off on my order. if I decide to get this later, I'll join the GB. =)

Guys...do not let me or anyone deter you from spending money on your car...hehe...

[Speedy2008]

as of right now, I'm holding off on my order. if I decide to get this later, I'll join the GB. =)

Guys...do not let me or anyone deter you from spending money on your car...hehe...

now nobody is gonna buy this thing...Fobio, you know that you're the most influential guy on this forum.

[Fobio]

now nobody is gonna buy this thing...Fobio, you know that you're the most influential guy on this forum.

lol...you give me too much credit bro...but if anyone needs an excuse to spend $ or save $, they can read how they will into my posts...

this is an excellent product...all reviews I've read have been positive and is the reason why I've considered it and still considering it. however, since I'm budgetting for the long term, $85USD is really something I don't need to spend RIGHT NOW. so if the GB progresses, I may feel the incentive to jump in again.

personally, with a STS, I don't really feel the need for this to shorten my throws...I was simply concerned with the stock shifter weight hitting a FMIC pipe. this seems to be a good option for those that want to keep the stock shifter height (which I recommend instead of lowering it), while shortening their throws. the one guy who had this along with the Cobb STS had to adjust the Cobb STS to the 2nd lowest of the 5 settings to accomodate this...which means the acumulative effect of this plate AND the STS on the shortest throw isn't ideal...

[Zoom Zoom Boy]

I'm still interested in this, but I'll let a number of members here run this thing on their car first before I decide to get it. So, doesn't really help you with the GB, but the product is intriguing. Would love to have the shorter throw and keep the stock shift height.

[oneurt]

I'm still interested in this, but I'll let a number of members here run this thing on their car first before I decide to get it. So, doesn't really help you with the GB, but the product is intriguing. Would love to have the shorter throw and keep the stock shift height.

I'll have to let you know my impressions of it in a couple of weeks then

[Zoom Zoom Boy]

I'll have to let you know my impressions of it in a couple of weeks then

Please do. I am very interested.

Understand that I have seen a lot of 'great' products hyped on here and MSF, only to see them tell a very different tale a few months after running them. I'm just naturally pessimistic, but in all seriousness, this sounds like an awesome little product.

[oneurt]

Please do. I am very interested.

Understand that I have seen a lot of 'great' products hyped on here and MSF, only to see them tell a very different tale a few months after running them. I'm just naturally pessimistic, but in all seriousness, this sounds like an awesome little product.

Which is very understandable. I've been looking for a way to shorten the throws of the shifter and I have been wanting to get a STS but since the price has too much for my budget this seemed like a more viable option at this moment.

If this item isn't my cup of tea, its much easier to go back to stock :)

[MRT_MS3]

Update on 1st POST !!!

He mentioned that he no longer makes the "mazdaspeed" logo type on the first 2 pic I posted on the first post.

This is the new plate and what we'll most likely get. Available in Red, Blue, Black, Silver, and Yellow
http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/5900/img6686a.jpg

[ptfire]

1. MRT_MS3 - Black
2. ptfire MS3 Black
3.[/QUOTE]

[BlK98Cx]

1. MRT_MS3 - Black
2. ptfire MS3 Black
3. blk98cx - ms3 - Black or Silver

[Weedly]

Can anyone answer whether this plate will firm up the shift feel at all or is it simply a way to shorten the throw? I would like to get rid of some of the shifting slop AND shorten the throw without changing the shifter height.

What about the idea of changing out the shifter bushings as I have read about in other threads and installing this plate?

Thanks

[Fobio]

Can anyone answer whether this plate will firm up the shift feel at all or is it simply a way to shorten the throw? I would like to get rid of some of the shifting slop AND shorten the throw without changing the shifter height.

What about the idea of changing out the shifter bushings as I have read about in other threads and installing this plate?

Thanks

if you do this plate, without an STS, I'd definitely do the bushings...in fact, changing the bushings was my first mod to this car, and I never looked back.

[Jbarone]

Hello my friends up north.

[Fobio]

Hello my friends up north.

welcome Jamie! =)

[Weedly]

Where would you suggest I acquire a set of bushings?

[Fobio]

Where would you suggest I acquire a set of bushings?

TWM...one of our sponsors.

[Speedy2008]

Where would you suggest I acquire a set of bushings?

I have a set that I installed and tried for 1 day. I took them out right away b/c I acutally like the stock shift feel. I'm willing to sell them.

[Jbarone]

welcome Jamie! =)

Thanks!!

[Zoom Zoom Boy]

Hello my friends up north.

Welcome, oh rectal-cranial inverted one... Nice Avatar...:chuckle

[Jbarone]

I'm still interested in this, but I'll let a number of members here run this thing on their car first before I decide to get it. So, doesn't really help you with the GB, but the product is intriguing. Would love to have the shorter throw and keep the stock shift height.

I respect this philosophy.

[Jbarone]

Can anyone answer whether this plate will firm up the shift feel at all or is it simply a way to shorten the throw? I would like to get rid of some of the shifting slop AND shorten the throw without changing the shifter height.

Thanks

Yes, and yes. The feel is much more defined, or crisp. Shorting the throw reduces that hunting for gears feel. Some have descibed it as notchy. It appears that notchy is good because I have not slept in a week.

[Jbarone]

Update on 1st POST !!!

He mentioned that he no longer makes the "mazdaspeed" logo type on the first 2 pic I posted on the first post.

This is the new plate and what we'll most likely get. Available in Red, Blue, Black, Silver, and Yellow
http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/5900/img6686a.jpg

You are correct.

This is the new style. Like it?

[Weedly]

Ok...count me in on the GB.

1. MRT_MS3 - Black
2. ptfire MS3 Black
3. blk98cx - ms3 - Black or Silver
4. Weedly - ms3 - Black

[Mazda3X2]

Jamie,

Can you confirm if using this with an STS would be overkill?

I have a TWM STS right now with bushings and still feel there is room for improvement.

Thanks, and welcome to the site!

[Jbarone]

Jamie,

Can you confirm if using this with an STS would be overkill?

I have a TWM STS right now with bushings and still feel there is room for improvement.

Thanks, and welcome to the site!

I will know in a few days. Stay tuned.

Thanks,
Jamie

[Mazda3X2]

I will know in a few days. Stay tuned.

Thanks,
Jamie

Will do, thank you.

[cosic]

I definately want one, but I think I'm going to wait it out.. maybe I'll join the group buy just as its closing. :D

[Jbarone]

Jamie,

Can you confirm if using this with an STS would be overkill?

I have a TWM STS right now with bushings and still feel there is room for improvement.

Here is the communication I received regarding the combination of the my STSP and the TWM STS.

"I received the shift plate today and just finished installing it. I must say that this is the best put together package I have ever seen. I have ordered a lot of parts from different companies and I have never seen such a complete package. Adding in the loctite and lube just blew me away. Amazing quality on everything. My first impressions without driving and just doing some dry shifting is that it is way to tight now. It seems almost impossible to tell when it is in gear and it is very tough to move around. I'm not saying that is my final verdict though. I will drive tonight and get the full feel."

"Well I drove it for almost an hour in a lot of stop and go areas. The shift throw is drastically shorter and the whole tranny feel is way more stiff. It is in fact so stiff that I seem to be fighting it the whole time to keep shifting. Another side affect is that since the movement has been reduced so much there really isn't any room for error. It seems to be really easy to get locked out of a gear, especially under moderate to heavy acceleration. In my opinion the plate would definitely replace the need for a short throw shifter but in combination with one I think it makes it more difficult to shift due to the extra effort and concentration needed.
I really do think the quality of your product is great. It is nice to include the little things like loctite and lube. I spent over $250 on my TWM shifter and they didn't give me anything with it. It required some silicon based lube which I had to go out and get."

I think this answers your question?

Thanks,
Jamie

[Mazda3X2]

I think this answers your question?

Thanks,
Jamie

It does perfectly, thank you.

Your product looks top notch, and I would have went this way if I didn't already have the TWM.

Barry

[Fobio]

Thanks for the honest and prompt response Jamie. =)

[oneurt]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A5QHMA1G0MA
a video showing the Jbarone STSP. found it on another site.

[MRT_MS3]

Nice Video.

I really hope this plate improve shifting somewhat coz I had another 2nd gear grind under heavy acceleration. Jeezz...pisses me off everytime it happens....

[Weedly]

Sorry for waffling on this guys but I am removing my name from the list. It doesn't make sense for me to try to save a few bucks through the GB on shipping to Toronto when I would have to drive down from Collingwood to pick it up anyway. Im installing some bushings to see how the shifting feels and will order from Jamie directly after that mod is complete.

1. MRT_MS3 - Black
2. ptfire MS3 Black
3. blk98cx - ms3 - Black or Silver
4.

[Jbarone]

How's it going guys?

[oneurt]

Hey guys got my STSP and man I must say this was the easiest thing to install, all I had to do was remove my filter off my Cobb intake and the rest was easy.

As for how it performs it works amazing!!! I can't believe the difference it has made over the stock shift throw, the throws are perfect, I love the throw lengths now... All in all I have nothing bad to say..

Great quality product, everything is included A++++++++ for JBarone.

[Jbarone]

I'm thrilled to hear you like it. Thanks for the kind words.


Thanks,
Jamie

[MRT_MS3]

This GB is closing in 3 days. Looking like this GB is a FAIL with just 3 guys. I thought we were gonna get at least 10 but I'm still gonna wait 3 days to see if some of you might get annoyed at your shifter over the weekend and jump on this....:chuckle

[Jbarone]

This GB is closing in 3 days. Looking like this GB is a FAIL with just 3 guys. I thought we were gonna get at least 10 but I'm still gonna wait 3 days to see if some of you might get annoyed at your shifter over the weekend and jump on this....:chuckle

No not a FAIL. I would like to honor the 77.50 price for the 3 that have signed up.

MRT_MS3, When you close the GB collect the funds and when I recieve it from you I will ship.

Sound good guys?

Thanks,
Jamie

[MRT_MS3]

That sounds good Jamie....Thanks!!

[hatthi]

CRAP! I wish I would have seen this before I ordered mine. Oh well.....

[BlK98Cx]

No not a FAIL. I would like to honor the 77.50 price for the 3 that have signed up.

MRT_MS3, When you close the GB collect the funds and when I recieve it from you I will ship.

Sound good guys?

Thanks,
Jamie

YOU THE MAN JAMIE !!!!!! thank you ...... now that's how you do business!!!!!

[jspeed_3]

could i still get in on this? pls put me down for a black one..

[Mundek]

Jamie,
Can you make one for the regular/non turbo Mazda3 ?
Or am I missing something that makes it impossible?
it would broaden the market for you too.
I'd love to buy one, but I have a 2010 GX

[MRT_MS3]

Your added on the GB jspeed3.

This GB is closing tonight at Midnight. I will contact the 4 guys that are interested to either transer me the money via paypal, e-mail interac transfer or cash. Keep in mind that paypal charges 3% so you can add that on top of the 77.50 that Jamie kindly offered.

Thanks

[Fobio]

I didn't know that Jamie actually sells the shifter weight on its own as well. Hopefully he'll chime in with more details, but it's slightly heavier than Cobb's.

http://www.jamiesplanet.com/weights/

I'm in contact with him right now, and may join this GB for just the shifter-weight.

[Jbarone]

I can send one along in the box with the rest of the orders in this GB for $25.

Do we have a current summary of orders? I need to prepare.

Thanks,
Jamie

[Fobio]

1. MRT_MS3 - Black
2. ptfire MS3 Black
3. blk98cx - ms3 - Black or Silver
4. jspeed_3 - black
5. Fobio - black or silver shifter weight ONLY (cash/EMT)

[Jbarone]

Looks good guys.

Thanks!!

[hatthi]

Unfortunately I ordered mine before I saw this group buy. I just received it today! It only took 10 minutes to install and is the best money I've ever spent. Shifts are crisp and shortened at just the right amount. Feel is great as well. The packaging was great, quality of workmanship was awesome, instructions were top notch. The overall packaging and instructions are beyond what many parts dealers supply with their products. Nice job Jamie!!!!!!:headbang

[Jbarone]

Unfortunately I ordered mine before I saw this group buy. I just received it today! It only took 10 minutes to install and is the best money I've ever spent. Shifts are crisp and shortened at just the right amount. Feel is great as well. The packaging was great, quality of workmanship was awesome, instructions were top notch. The overall packaging and instructions are beyond what many parts dealers supply with their products. Nice job Jamie!!!!!!:headbang

Thank You. I appreciate the your comments.

Thanks,
Jamie

[Jbarone]

hatthi,
If you have a chance could you post some pics? I'm collecting them for the website.

Thanks,
Jamie

[hatthi]

hatthi,
If you have a chance could you post some pics? I'm collecting them for the website.

Thanks,
Jamie

I'll get some up tomorrow.

[oneurt]

hey JBarone, just wondering if you suggest adjusting the shifter similar to the video you put on the CD? I haven't done that yet but did you end up doing that adjustment as well?

[Fobio]

funds sent. =)

[BlK98Cx]

paid mine!!!! :headbang now the wait.......:bang

[MRT_MS3]

I am only waiting for one more payment and as soon as I get it, I will send the funds to Jamie asap.

Thanks Fellaz

[Jbarone]

hey JBarone, just wondering if you suggest adjusting the shifter similar to the video you put on the CD? I haven't done that yet but did you end up doing that adjustment as well?

The adjustment is only required if you feel that shifting from 1st to 2nd could use some improvement. I have done it, others have done and it does make shifting smoother. I only like to recommend it to people if they really need it, and have more advanced skills to do it. You can make things worse. If you do it, take your time and don't rush. Sometimes us men rush and make a mess that takes longer to clean up.:bang

FYI folks...I don't include a CD with the Video and instructions anymore, just hardcopy of the instructions. Cost and time have become a factor. All support information will be on www.jamiesplanet.com in the coming days. So if you want to know how to fine tune your shifter, with or with out an STS or STSP check you can go there. As always, I'm around to answer questions on-line too.

Thanks,
Jamie

[MRT_MS3]

PAYMENT HAS BEEN SENT AND RECEIVED!!

Jamie is asking if anyone is interested in getting the plates and weights powder coated but it may take a week to ship. If everyone is ok with just the regular paint, then drop a post here. He can ship them asap if no one is interested.

[Fobio]

I don't need mine powdercoated. Thanks.

[Jbarone]

Like MRT_MS3 said,
I'm switching over to PC for everything in the next 3-5 days. So I thought I throw it out for you guys.

Thanks,
Jamie

[Fobio]

Thanks Jamie!

It's up to the rest of you. If you guys want the option of having it PC'd, then go ahead, I can wait.

[Skyhigh]

I purchased one of Jamie's Short Shift Plates and have had it installed in my MS3 for about a month. Definitely worth the money (and I spent $85USD a month ago...so this group buy is worth it). You won't be disappointed!

[MRT_MS3]

Jamie, send the orders with the regular paint you use. I think everyones been waiting for these so we'll pass with the powder coating. Please let us know when it has shipped

Thanks

[Jbarone]

I purchased one of Jamie's Short Shift Plates and have had it installed in my MS3 for about a month. Definitely worth the money (and I spent $85USD a month ago...so this group buy is worth it). You won't be disappointed!

Thank You!!

[Jbarone]

Jamie, send the orders with the regular paint you use. I think everyones been waiting for these so we'll pass with the powder coating. Please let us know when it has shipped

Thanks

Will do. They'll ship tomorrow.

FYI... The paint looks great. It's just way too messy for me to do on a long term basis. I have a nice filtered spray booth but it's still a disaster with over spray and changing out filters.

Thanks,
Jamie

[oneurt]

The adjustment is only required if you feel that shifting from 1st to 2nd could use some improvement. I have done it, others have done and it does make shifting smoother. I only like to recommend it to people if they really need it, and have more advanced skills to do it. You can make things worse. If you do it, take your time and don't rush. Sometimes us men rush and make a mess that takes longer to clean up.:bang

FYI folks...I don't include a CD with the Video and instructions anymore, just hardcopy of the instructions. Cost and time have become a factor. All support information will be on www.jamiesplanet.com in the coming days. So if you want to know how to fine tune your shifter, with or with out an STS or STSP check you can go there. As always, I'm around to answer questions on-line too.

Thanks,
Jamie

Ok, I was wondering because after I installed the plate, I like how the throw was shortened, but second gear engagement became a lil poor. I ended up adjusting it and now its perfect.

[Jbarone]

Ok, I was wondering because after I installed the plate, I like how the throw was shortened, but second gear engagement became a lil poor. I ended up adjusting it and now its perfect.

That's great. I included the video but chose not to "advertise" for the lack of a better word. I was concerned that everyone would attempt it and it's not something I felt was within the capabilities of everyone. I was worried I would create a support nightmare for myself. Most don't need it.

It is nice though isn't it?

Thanks,
Jamie

[Jbarone]

Any of you guys have a DH or AP?

These have been well received:
www.jamiesplanet.com/mounts

Thanks,
Jamie

[hatthi]

Here's the pic as promised.

http://img29.imageshack.us/img29/8752/25914655.th.jpg (http://img29.imageshack.us/i/25914655.jpg/)

[Jbarone]

Here's the pic as promised.

http://img29.imageshack.us/img29/8752/25914655.th.jpg (http://img29.imageshack.us/i/25914655.jpg/)

Very nice. Thanks!!

[Jbarone]

You goodies have shipped.

Box # 1 Priority Mail International® Label Number: LJ523794112US

Box # 2 Priority Mail International® Label Number: LJ523794126US

Thanks,
Jamie

[Ex-Rolla]

Shit... I'll wait for the next one...

[MS3-MON]

x2....

[oneurt]

That's great. I included the video but chose not to "advertise" for the lack of a better word. I was concerned that everyone would attempt it and it's not something I felt was within the capabilities of everyone. I was worried I would create a support nightmare for myself. Most don't need it.

It is nice though isn't it?

Thanks,
Jamie

It is for sure. I read about the fine tuning on Mazdas247 a while back, but with the stock shifter never felt the need to do it. But yah once the STSP was installed a lil tweaking to bring it back to my liking was required. Glad that it was there so I didn't have to search for it. Honestly though the fine tuning was so straight forward though I think anyone can do it and not affect anything since it really goes back to normal on its own.

[Jbarone]

It is for sure. I read about the fine tuning on Mazdas247 a while back, but with the stock shifter never felt the need to do it. But yah once the STSP was installed a lil tweaking to bring it back to my liking was required. Glad that it was there so I didn't have to search for it. Honestly though the fine tuning was so straight forward though I think anyone can do it and not affect anything since it really goes back to normal on its own.

I think I'll run through it again on my car and maybe I'll add it to the install directions as an option.

Thanks,
Jamie

[Jbarone]

I'd be happy to do another GB if someone wants to head it up.

Jamie

[Ex-Rolla]

I'd be happy to do another GB if someone wants to head it up.

Jamie


Would love to, but i've never done one before so wouldn't know where to start...

PM me details if you'd like and i can start one up in the Group buy section.

[Jbarone]

PM sent.

[Jbarone]

The big day has arrived. Let me know what you guys think.

Jamie

[BlK98Cx]

got mine already...install tom.....by the way jamie!!!! quality of your product is 100% perfect....from manual to metal.....review will come up soon!!!!:headbang

[Jbarone]

got mine already...install tom.....by the way jamie!!!! quality of your product is 100% perfect....from manual to metal.....review will come up soon!!!!:headbang

Thanks!

I hope you like it.


Jamie

[Weedly]

I got mine after a couple weeks and installed it right away. As noted before, very thorough instructions, a complete kit with everything you need, and the whole thing fit perfectly and seems very well made.

Once installed I love the new shift throws...dramatically shortened...I can flick from gear to gear with very little effort. It takes a little while to get used to the new feel but it is certainly worth it.

My only question is whether there is any concern that the boot surrounding the linkage cable, which now comes into contact with the connector when shifting from 1st to 2nd, will eventually break at the contact point? If so, what is the potential effect? Comments?

[Jbarone]

I got mine after a couple weeks and installed it right away. As noted before, very thorough instructions, a complete kit with everything you need, and the whole thing fit perfectly and seems very well made.

Once installed I love the new shift throws...dramatically shortened...I can flick from gear to gear with very little effort. It takes a little while to get used to the new feel but it is certainly worth it.

My only question is whether there is any concern that the boot surrounding the linkage cable, which now comes into contact with the connector when shifting from 1st to 2nd, will eventually break at the contact point? If so, what is the potential effect? Comments?

I'm not sure I follow you. Can you e-mail me a picture to jamie.barone@charter.net?

[BlK98Cx]

http://img685.imageshack.us/img685/9043/jbarone.th.jpg (http://img685.imageshack.us/i/jbarone.jpg/)

well here's my review!

pros:
very short throws compare to stock(i mean short!!!!)
lessen the notchiness a bit
heel and toe is effort less
easy to instal (15 mins tops)
can't go wrong with the price!!!(worth every penny)

cons:
the grommet on the shifter cable is hitting the plate next to it (manual say's put greese on it but i think the grommet needs to be change to a skinnier one)
needs to learn how to release the clutch earlier now
sometimes it feels like the shift are not in coz it's so short(but i drove the car hard in turns and it stays in gear)

overall i'm very happy! just need to find a way to fix the grommet...thanx james b....!

[Jbarone]

http://img685.imageshack.us/img685/9043/jbarone.th.jpg (http://img685.imageshack.us/i/jbarone.jpg/)

well here's my review!

pros:
very short throws compare to stock(i mean short!!!!)
lessen the notchiness a bit
heel and toe is effort less
easy to instal (15 mins tops)
can't go wrong with the price!!!(worth every penny)

cons:
the grommet on the shifter cable is hitting the plate next to it (manual say's put greese on it but i think the grommet needs to be change to a skinnier one)
needs to learn how to release the clutch earlier now
sometimes it feels like the shift are not in coz it's so short(but i drove the car hard in turns and it stays in gear)

overall i'm very happy! just need to find a way to fix the grommet...thanx james b....!

I'm glad you like it. I understand and respect your concern about the boot. That silicone boot is so strong that I believe it will never wear out. I have 6408 miles on mine and there is NO sign of wear on it. I suggest a little lube or bearing grease be applied to it at each oil change. I suggest this not because I think it needs it but for added piece of mind for the consumer.


On a side note....
I'm gonna post something on my site in the next couple of days that I think will look sooo hot on your car and every other MS3 for that matter. It does on mine. I'll give you a hint....Engine compartment bling. Stay tuned.

OH! you know those reflectors on the rear bumper? I have some black out covers coming that are :headbang. These are sweet. The go over the existing ones. No need to remove the bumper or anything crazy like that to install. And the appear almost flush with the bumper cover after their installed. The rear 2 will be in a flat matte finish to blend with the lower bumper panel. The sides will be smoked or unfinished with the option to color match. These are $70 for the sides and another $70 for the rear at other popular MS3 aftermarket sites. I could in no way justify that price and sleep at night. I hope to have them this time next week.

Thanks,
Jamie

[oneurt]

I'm glad you like it. I understand and respect your concern about the boot. That silicone boot is so strong that I believe it will never wear out. I have 6408 miles on mine and there is NO sign of wear on it. I suggest a little lube or bearing grease be applied to it at each oil change. I suggest this not because I think it needs it but for added piece of mind for the consumer.


On a side note....
I'm gonna post something on my site in the next couple of days that I think will look sooo hot on your car and every other MS3 for that matter. It does on mine. I'll give you a hint....Engine compartment bling. Stay tuned.

OH! you know those reflectors on the rear bumper? I have some black out covers coming that are :headbang. These are sweet. The go over the existing ones. No need to remove the bumper or anything crazy like that to install. And the appear almost flush with the bumper cover after their installed. The rear 2 will be in a flat matte finish to blend with the lower bumper panel. The sides will be smoked or unfinished with the option to color match. These are $70 for the sides and another $70 for the rear at other popular MS3 aftermarket sites. I could in no way justify that price and sleep at night. I hope to have them this time next week.

Thanks,
Jamie

Hmm the smoked rear deflectors sounds very interesting. Can't wait to see them

[-cj-]

Ditto. Interested to see what you come up with. I think I'm also going in on the next GB for the plate...

[BlK98Cx]

I'm glad you like it. I understand and respect your concern about the boot. That silicone boot is so strong that I believe it will never wear out. I have 6408 miles on mine and there is NO sign of wear on it. I suggest a little lube or bearing grease be applied to it at each oil change. I suggest this not because I think it needs it but for added piece of mind for the consumer.


On a side note....
I'm gonna post something on my site in the next couple of days that I think will look sooo hot on your car and every other MS3 for that matter. It does on mine. I'll give you a hint....Engine compartment bling. Stay tuned.

OH! you know those reflectors on the rear bumper? I have some black out covers coming that are :headbang. These are sweet. The go over the existing ones. No need to remove the bumper or anything crazy like that to install. And the appear almost flush with the bumper cover after their installed. The rear 2 will be in a flat matte finish to blend with the lower bumper panel. The sides will be smoked or unfinished with the option to color match. These are $70 for the sides and another $70 for the rear at other popular MS3 aftermarket sites. I could in no way justify that price and sleep at night. I hope to have them this time next week.

Thanks,
Jamie

that's good to hear....and yes the boot do look strong enough...i just hope it would not collect dirt from the greese...and by the way i'm interested in the rear reflectors....just show us the pic.....and that bling you talking about in the engine compartment!!! thanx again

[BlK98Cx]

Ditto. Interested to see what you come up with. I think I'm also going in on the next GB for the plate...

yup....get on the next group buy...it's worth the money!!!! oh if you like to see how the products looks just give me a shout!

[jspeed_3]

this thing is sweet!! surely got my moneyzz worth, JBarone kits FTW! F* them expensive STS.

[Fobio]

any chance anyone from 'sauga can bring me my shifter weight from Jeff/Peter? =)

[BlK98Cx]

any chance anyone from 'sauga can bring me my shifter weight from Jeff/Peter? =)

hey....where are you located?

[Fobio]

hey....where are you located?

PM sent

[MRT_MS3]

any chance anyone from 'sauga can bring me my shifter weight from Jeff/Peter? =)

Damn....I seriously forgot to mention it to Jspeed3. I think he lives in Markham but I could be wrong though.... :bang

Fobio, theres a good chance that I might be in Scarborough this coming Sunday at night (6PM-10PM). Around Finch and Midland area. LMK

[Fobio]

thanks guys! we'll stay in touch.

[hatthi]

I'm glad you like it. I understand and respect your concern about the boot. That silicone boot is so strong that I believe it will never wear out. I have 6408 miles on mine and there is NO sign of wear on it. I suggest a little lube or bearing grease be applied to it at each oil change. I suggest this not because I think it needs it but for added piece of mind for the consumer.


On a side note....
I'm gonna post something on my site in the next couple of days that I think will look sooo hot on your car and every other MS3 for that matter. It does on mine. I'll give you a hint....Engine compartment bling. Stay tuned.

OH! you know those reflectors on the rear bumper? I have some black out covers coming that are :headbang. These are sweet. The go over the existing ones. No need to remove the bumper or anything crazy like that to install. And the appear almost flush with the bumper cover after their installed. The rear 2 will be in a flat matte finish to blend with the lower bumper panel. The sides will be smoked or unfinished with the option to color match. These are $70 for the sides and another $70 for the rear at other popular MS3 aftermarket sites. I could in no way justify that price and sleep at night. I hope to have them this time next week.

Thanks,
Jamie

No news? Pics of bling? Haven't seen anything on your site and the curiosity is killing me!

[Jbarone]

Hey guys. Sorry to be such a stranger. I have been swamped.

This is why:
http://www.mpsgarage.com.au/shop/search/288/generation-1--driveline.html

I've been working on this deal to distribute in AU for a long time. I'm very happy with the results of working with MPSGARAGE

Here are is the bling. Red, Blue and Black, and also aluminum. Battery box cover not shown. Black outs are done I just need to pick them. Stay tuned

Thanks,
Jamie

[Jbarone]

Here's the link to the bling and some work I've done on my 3

http://www.jamiesplanet.com/Accessories/

http://www.jamiesplanet.com/vc/

Thanks,
Jamie

[oneurt]

Hey guys. Sorry to be such a stranger. I have been swamped.

This is why:
http://www.mpsgarage.com.au/shop/search/288/generation-1--driveline.html

I've been working on this deal to distribute in AU for a long time. I'm very happy with the results of working with MPSGARAGE

Here are is the bling. Red, Blue and Black, and also aluminum. Battery box cover not shown. Black outs are done I just need to pick them. Stay tuned

Thanks,
Jamie
Congrats on the deal with the AU distribution sounds like things are going good yah. The bling is nice!!

[Olestra]

Here's the link to the bling and some work I've done on my 3

http://www.jamiesplanet.com/Accessories/

http://www.jamiesplanet.com/vc/

Thanks,
Jamie

The SS intercooler dress up kit is sex!

[Weedly]

Sorry I didn't respond to Jamies request for clarification but I was out of the country for a bit.

BIK98c has already explained more clearly what my concern is and I see your response. I am glad to hear that your boot has shown no evidence of wear but I think it would be prudent for those of us with the shift plate to keep an eye on that contact point...duh, obviously!

In any case, I have been through the SE USA, driving many km on the MS3 since the plate was installed and can say that I am thoroughly satisfied with what it has done for the shift feel. Thanks again.

[oneurt]

Hey guys any of you have any experience with the STSP in very cold weather?

I live in SASK so the -40 weather definitely made driving an experience. Much like how the shifter is stiff and sluggish in cold weather the shifting with the STSP was a bit more difficult it required more precision when shifting but its not impossible.

[Jbarone]

Hey guys!!

WOW that sounds cold. Letting the car warm up will greatly reduce the stiffness with the STSP but I'm sure you already know that. Here it's about 20* and I let the car run for about 15 minutes before I take off when ever I can.

I've been so swamped with completing the STSP for the MS6 that I've not had a chance to put the dress up kits and the black out reflector covers online yet. I hope to do it this weekend. Look for a news letter in you e-mail soon too.

I've got 120 shifter base bushings coming off the mill next week. $22.50 shipped domestic. I'll see what it costs to ship up to you guys. I plan on putting them in an envelope so it should be pretty cheap.

I hope you guys have a great holiday season.

Thanks,
Jamie

[oneurt]

the shifter bushings, are they similar to the one's TWM's bushings replace?

[Jbarone]

the shifter bushings, are they similar to the one's TWM's bushings replace?

Yeah pretty much the same. Made of solid aluminum w/ washers.

Thanks,
Jamie

[Jbarone]

New bits (http://www.jamiesplanet.com/Accessories/)

Shifter bushings arrive Thursday.

Jamie

[Jbarone]

New look, new stuff!

www.jamiesplanet.com

How cold is it up there?

Jamie

[Jbarone]

Massive sale on 24/7

[oneurt]

New look, new stuff!

www.jamiesplanet.com

How cold is it up there?

Jamie

Its freezing where I'm living.

[BlueStreak]

Just purchased and installed the JBarone Stage 2 Kit. I really wish I had done this sooner as this mod is awesome.

It's a solid piece of work.

[Jbarone]

What's up Fellas?

[oneurt]

Hey Jamie, not much loving the SSP working great, no issues with it.

[Jbarone]

Hey Jamie, not much loving the SSP working great, no issues with it.

Great!!

[MajesticBlueNTO]

best driveability mod for the money!

[Jbarone]

best driveability mod for the money!

Thank You!!

[Kinn]

I must get one of these...any GB's going on?

[Jbarone]

I must get one of these...any GB's going on?

None that I'm aware of...Sorry.

Jamie

[Broxn]

I need one as well...but I guess I will wait for a GB or a resale.

[horto]

me too... that's 3 of us already =) GB! GB!

[Kinn]

James how many do you want for a GB?

[Broxn]

I messaged him... waiting for a response, he usually gets back pretty quick..


James how many do you want for a GB?

[Jbarone]

James how many do you want for a GB?

No minimum, I like to do them based on time.

Thanks,
Jamie

[Jbarone]

I messaged him... waiting for a response, he usually gets back pretty quick..

Replied. If you're interested start a new thread.

Thanks,
Jamie

[Roconne]

Got my SSP today, hopefully I can get it installed within the next couple of days.

Jamie - there was no lube/grease included with the kit. Do you recommend I still get some and put it on where the contact occurs?

[Jbarone]

Got my SSP today, hopefully I can get it installed within the next couple of days.

Jamie - there was no lube/grease included with the kit. Do you recommend I still get some and put it on where the contact occurs?

No Lube? Crap....sorry about that. If you can find just a little grease, any kind will do then use it. Really the kits don't require it anymore I just supply it for peace of mind and I have about a thousand of them.

Sorry,
Jamie

[Roconne]

Not a problem Jamie. I installed the ssp this afternoon and I think it is great so far. Made the throws even shorter than I was expecting, which is awesome. I'll hopefully have some time to install the shifter bushings later this week.

[dimsumboi05]

Has a GB been started yet for next round of SSP? I will definitely be jumping on this!

[Jbarone]

Has a GB been started yet for next round of SSP? I will definitely be jumping on this!

Not yet. Broxn has the info if he wants to start it.

[Turok]

Stupid question here:

If you installed a JBR STSP and a STS would the throws be even shorter?

Is anyone running both a stsp and a sts?

I'm getting a TWM STS with upgraded bushings soon and would there be a need for me to get a STSP as well?

[Jbarone]

Stupid question here:

If you installed a JBR STSP and a STS would the throws be even shorter?

Is anyone running both a stsp and a sts?

I'm getting a TWM STS with upgraded bushings soon and would there be a need for me to get a STSP as well?

Not a stupid question. You should ask yourself do you want it? It is being done with the TWM and I have tested this combination myself and like it. You must be prepare for very short shifts and to make some adjustments to the shifter as well.

Thanks,
Jamie

[Turok]

Not a stupid question. You should ask yourself do you want it? It is being done with the TWM and I have tested this combination myself and like it. You must be prepare for very short shifts and to make some adjustments to the shifter as well.

Thanks,
Jamie

Thanks Jamie

What kinda of shifter adjustments are you talking about?

I guess I should probably get the TWM STS first, and see how short the throws are and then go from there.

[Jbarone]

Thanks Jamie

What kinda of shifter adjustments are you talking about?

I guess I should probably get the TWM STS first, and see how short the throws are and then go from there.

Honestly I was not too impressed with the TWM as far a shortness goes. Height was cool though.

Here id the adjustment I'm talking about:
http://www.jamiesplanet.com/support/FineTune.htm

Thanks,
Jamie

[Turok]

Honestly I was not too impressed with the TWM as far a shortness goes. Height was cool though.

Here id the adjustment I'm talking about:
http://www.jamiesplanet.com/support/FineTune.htm

Thanks,
Jamie

Ahh ok that's the adjustment your talking about. I adjusted mine a couple weeks ago to make the shifting somewhat smoother, specially between 1-2 gears. I'll probably have to make some adjustments once I get the STS installed. Well if the throws aren't short enough, then looks like I'll be getting a STSP down the road. Maybe there will be another group buy soon :D

[Broxn]

Not yet. Broxn has the info if he wants to start it.

Sorry fellas....been busy for the last week or so...
James...I am unable to find the email you sent me but I do recall the deal which is a good one!
I will gladly start a thread in the GB area..

[Broxn]

Oops dbl post!

[dimsumboi05]

Sorry fellas....been busy for the last week or so...
James...I am unable to find the email you sent me but I do recall the deal which is a good one!
I will gladly start a thread in the GB area..

I just realized that this thread was under the mazda speed 3 forum and i own a '10 mazda 3.. Would I still be able to jump onto this GB or would a mazda 3 GB thread need to be created seperately?

[Jbarone]

I just realized that this thread was under the mazda speed 3 forum and i own a '10 mazda 3.. Would I still be able to jump onto this GB or would a mazda 3 GB thread need to be created seperately?

I will set it for the MZ3 owners as well. Would you be willing to start a thread in the Mazda 3 section as well?

Thanks,
Jamie

[Kinn]

I've started a GB thread in the GB section (figured that made the most sense). Slap me if I'm wrong lol!

http://www.torontomazda3.ca/forum/showthread.php?44958-JBarone-Short-Shift-Plate-GB-June-2010&p=622845#post622845

I made the assumtion that the stage 2 kit would be included (and I honestly don't see why anyone wouldn't grab the bushings at the same time.) Also let us know if you need any additional information for the order.

I'm so excited I almost just ordered it direct yesterday but I'll wait to help the GB with numbers.

[dimsumboi05]

I will set it for the MZ3 owners as well. Would you be willing to start a thread in the Mazda 3 section as well?

Thanks,
Jamie

I sure can for the Mazda 3s. I'll go ahead and start the thread but I will need details so I can update it. As another member just mentioned, stage 2 kit I assume is what most members will be looking for as it includes the bushings. Can't wait for this to get started!

[Roconne]

Yeah the bushings are a must. I got mine installed a couple of weeks ago and it really does a great job making the shifts feel a lot more solid. Stage 2 all the way :)

[dimsumboi05]

GB thread up for the Mazda3 at http://www.torontomazda3.ca/forum/showthread.php?44960-GB-JBarone-Short-Throw-Shift-Plate-for-Mazda-3-June-2010&p=622873#post622873. Just awaiting details to update!

[cwp_sedan]

PM sent Jbarone

[RECREATIONAL_ANXIETY]

Damn... I just saw the special TM3 member price on the website... and I just ordered a stage 2 kit a couple of days ago... man, my timing sucks.

[horto]

I don't see any of the GB threads. "Invalid Thread specified. If you followed a valid link, please notify the administrator".

I'll keep watching this thread.



GB thread up for the Mazda3 at http://www.torontomazda3.ca/forum/showthread.php?44960-GB-JBarone-Short-Throw-Shift-Plate-for-Mazda-3-June-2010&p=622873#post622873. Just awaiting details to update!


I've started a GB thread in the GB section (figured that made the most sense). Slap me if I'm wrong lol!

http://www.torontomazda3.ca/forum/showthread.php?44958-JBarone-Short-Shift-Plate-GB-June-2010&p=622845#post622845

I made the assumtion that the stage 2 kit would be included (and I honestly don't see why anyone wouldn't grab the bushings at the same time.) Also let us know if you need any additional information for the order.

I'm so excited I almost just ordered it direct yesterday but I'll wait to help the GB with numbers.

[dimsumboi05]

I don't see any of the GB threads. "Invalid Thread specified. If you followed a valid link, please notify the administrator".

I'll keep watching this thread.

The threads got taken down because Jbarone needs to become an official sponsor before a GB thread can be setup.. just hold tight. I'm as anxious as the next guy to get onto this GB!

[Broxn]

You can go to his website and order for the Toronto deal

[cwp_sedan]

You can go to his website and order for the Toronto deal

We want all members to benefit from saving money when buying products, but this GB is bypassing any rules we have in place. Sponsors are a key component in keeping TM3 forums alive and without them there wouldn't be a TM3 forum. We want JBarone to become a sponsor before he can officially run a GB or sell any products through the club. So far he has neglected to do so, and we (or at least I) would prefer that members wait to buy from him until he does so. Hopefully everyone realizes what impact this makes on the entire club.

[alhope34]

Shouldn't people be allowed to buy from who they want? If it's on his site and they order from there, it shouldn't matter if he is a sponsor or not.

[Roconne]

Think the problem is with him advertising on the site without being a sponsor.

But really guys, even without a group buy, this is still a great product for a good price. Just go order one now!

[alhope34]

I would if I wasn't starting school on the 21st! I'll barely make my payments for the next 2 months even with the $2-3k I'm borrowing from a friend.

[dave2010GT]

Where do you go to buy this thing?????

[Broxn]

His website.

[Broxn]

My orders going in

[Turok]

I wanna get one.. but I'd like to know someone who has a TWM STS and a SSP, get some feedback on how it drives and feels.

[Broxn]

Do a quick google on it.... You'll find a few reviews on another forum (starts with an "m") lol
The reviews aren't good (for the speed) but I'll let you find out for yourself.

[WeatherB]

Anyone notice increased clunking from their transmission when they installed te JBarone? I installed mine, felt great, but 1st to 2nd sounded aweful so I took it off 30KM later. I've read that if your transmission already clunks, it makes the clunking even worse. :(

[Broxn]

Really??? Never heard that.
Did you inquire to mr.barone?
What did you have it installed on?

[Broxn]

Really??? Never heard that.
Did you inquire to mr.barone?
What did you have it installed on?

[WeatherB]

Really??? Never heard that.
Did you inquire to mr.barone?
What did you have it installed on?

There were a couple of reviews that mentioned this. I didn't bother asking JBarone about it since I saw it already mentioned. I probably could have tried to fix it by adjusting the shifter but I wasn't sure if that would fix it.

It was on a gen 1 Speed3.

[RECREATIONAL_ANXIETY]

No problems with mine (2010 Sport GS). Shifter is stiffer than before, but that's expected. I love how short the shifts are now. With the shifter base bushings each shift is super solid.

[Kinn]

Well I've had mine on for about 2 weeks now and after some initial installation issues (which were my own fault. But honestly, put the grommets in the kit!) It seems to be working fine. I'm just not sure I like it. The throws were really short which is great but it does feel VERY clunky. It's not really a nice mechanical clunk either...it's quite abrupt. Jimmy seemed to think this was normal given how the plate works.

The plate is changing the ratio of movement between the shifter and plate. Shorter throws mean that the plate is moving faster. I'm not sure how, if at all, this might affect the transmission...but I would use the term "falling" into gear, "slammed" might be more appropriate.

I haven't done any fine tuning and I’m not sure if it would help this. I also haven't installed the shifter bushing yet and this was installed at the same time as the CP-E REMM. So I'm sure the feel of the clutch/tranny was affected by that as well.

Here are a few other things I've noticed.

- Shifter is quite stiff now, finding gears is easier but does require more effort.
- Doesn't like to be moved quickly, seems like it wants a pause at neutral, especially between 1st to 2nd, and 3rd to 4th. Direct shifts without the pause feel awkward and forced.
- Clunky and loud, shifting is much more audible now especially 1st to 2nd.

I’m wondering if changing the shift knob to a heavier knob might help, or will that just make it worse? Opinions?

[Jbarone]

Adjust the shifter and things will smooth out. Yes it does take more effort but soon you won't know the difference. Shifting is more audible now because of the RMM. When you add the bushings it'll be even more. In effect you have removed all of the vibration dampening and now you hear these sounds you'd otherwise never really hear. A heavier knob will make it easier to shift.

Thanks,
Jamie

[MajesticBlueNTO]

Well I've had mine on for about 2 weeks now and after some initial installation issues (which were my own fault. But honestly, put the grommets in the kit!) It seems to be working fine. I'm just not sure I like it. The throws were really short which is great but it does feel VERY clunky. It's not really a nice mechanical clunk either...it's quite abrupt. Jimmy seemed to think this was normal given how the plate works.

The plate is changing the ratio of movement between the shifter and plate. Shorter throws mean that the plate is moving faster. I'm not sure how, if at all, this might affect the transmission...but I would use the term "falling" into gear, "slammed" might be more appropriate.

I haven't done any fine tuning and I’m not sure if it would help this. I also haven't installed the shifter bushing yet and this was installed at the same time as the CP-E REMM. So I'm sure the feel of the clutch/tranny was affected by that as well.

Here are a few other things I've noticed.

- Shifter is quite stiff now, finding gears is easier but does require more effort.
- Doesn't like to be moved quickly, seems like it wants a pause at neutral, especially between 1st to 2nd, and 3rd to 4th. Direct shifts without the pause feel awkward and forced.
- Clunky and loud, shifting is much more audible now especially 1st to 2nd.

I’m wondering if changing the shift knob to a heavier knob might help, or will that just make it worse? Opinions?

You need to adjust/fine-tune the shifter to get rid of the stiffness.

Also, look into the PTP Kicker Mount as this engine likes to move a lot and you still have the "soft" passenger side mount and tranny mount to contend with.

[RECREATIONAL_ANXIETY]

Well I've had mine on for about 2 weeks now and after some initial installation issues (which were my own fault. But honestly, put the grommets in the kit!) It seems to be working fine. I'm just not sure I like it. The throws were really short which is great but it does feel VERY clunky. It's not really a nice mechanical clunk either...it's quite abrupt. Jimmy seemed to think this was normal given how the plate works.

The plate is changing the ratio of movement between the shifter and plate. Shorter throws mean that the plate is moving faster. I'm not sure how, if at all, this might affect the transmission...but I would use the term "falling" into gear, "slammed" might be more appropriate.

I haven't done any fine tuning and I’m not sure if it would help this. I also haven't installed the shifter bushing yet and this was installed at the same time as the CP-E REMM. So I'm sure the feel of the clutch/tranny was affected by that as well.

Here are a few other things I've noticed.

- Shifter is quite stiff now, finding gears is easier but does require more effort.
- Doesn't like to be moved quickly, seems like it wants a pause at neutral, especially between 1st to 2nd, and 3rd to 4th. Direct shifts without the pause feel awkward and forced.
- Clunky and loud, shifting is much more audible now especially 1st to 2nd.

I’m wondering if changing the shift knob to a heavier knob might help, or will that just make it worse? Opinions?

Have you changed your tranny fluid? I put Redline MT-90 in mine and it has made a difference. Much smoother shifts, less effort required, and it doesn't "stick" in gear anymore when trying to move to the next gear.

[oneurt]

Adjust the shifter and things will smooth out. Yes it does take more effort but soon you won't know the difference. Shifting is more audible now because of the RMM. When you add the bushings it'll be even more. In effect you have removed all of the vibration dampening and now you hear these sounds you'd otherwise never really hear. A heavier knob will make it easier to shift.

Thanks,
Jamie

I'm finally getting a RMM, should hopefully help with the tough shifting from 2nd to 3rd when pulling hard.