Seafoam? or NOT to Seafoam?

[starscream]

How many of you have seafoamed your MS3's? I been thinking to do it while I am getting my 96000kms service.

For those of you that have done it, and recommend it, did you simply put the 1/2 into the gas tank and 1/2 into the intake via brake boost line/BPV line?

Any more info on this would help, I really want to clean/prevent sludge being built up on the intake manifold and valves (to which I would think it would need to be put into the intake tract via the brake booster/BPV line).

[aris]

On the dodge fourms they all love it...

i haven't used it yet but one of these days i'm going to

[Hives]

It works wonders. Just don't do it in your neighbourhood lollll.

[Donutz]

My bro did it on his R6 and it cleared up some starting issues that he had. He only put it in the gas tank.

[spd frk]

I did it on my MS3 this past summer as well. Lots of smoke for a couple of blocks but then I was fine.

[jaymurr]

I'll be doing it to my grand national in the spring. I've read 1/3 through the brake booster, 1/3 in the fuel tank, and 1/3 in the crank case.

[craigrodrigues88]

My buddy did it on his Camaro a couple years ago. The car was idling a lot better and ran much smoother. I was thinking about doing it to my car too, but still unsure

[Thrizzl3]

do you have to order it from the site or are they're local vendors?

[stormin84]

one tip is to do it at night so they wont see the smoke...

[aris]

do you have to order it from the site or are they're local vendors?

napa, and car quest sell it

[Chester_Lampwick]

napa, and car quest sell it

Yep, I can confirm CarQuest. About $8.

[Zoom Zoom Boy]

Not for me, thanks.

[Chester_Lampwick]

Not for me, thanks.

What's the purpose in this reply? If you don't like it, or see no particular reason to use it then why post a reply? If you do have a reason for disliking it, why not advance the conversation by sharing your reasoning or knowledge?

[Zoom Zoom Boy]

How many of you have seafoamed your MS3's? I been thinking to do it while I am getting my 96000kms service...

Please see OP's question. He is asking for feedback.


What's the purpose in this reply? If you don't like it, or see no particular reason to use it then why post a reply? If you do have a reason for disliking it, why not advance the conversation by sharing your reasoning or knowledge?

The purpose was to provide my feedback that I have no intent of using Seafoam. Really is as simple as that.

For the reasoning, here it is. If my engine and car is running fine, why would I? I'm not a big believer of placing things in my fuel, in my oil, or in any other part of my car based on a bunch of marketing hype, or based on what people 'feel' it did for them. Ten to 15 years ago, tons of people thought Slick50 was a magical cure all too. Maybe Seaform works, maybe it doesn't. I don't know and I doubt you do either in any real scientific terms.

So, if it ain't broke, don't try and fix it. If you're comfortable experimenting with your car and its engine, that is entirely your prerogative. Good luck.

[Chester_Lampwick]

Please see OP's question. He is asking for feedback.



The purpose was to provide my feedback that I have no intent of using Seafoam. Really is as simple as that.

For the reasoning, here it is. If my engine and car is running fine, why would I? I'm not a big believer of placing things in my fuel, in my oil, or in any other part of my car based on a bunch of marketing hype, or based on what people 'feel' it did for them. Ten to 15 years ago, tons of people thought Slick50 was a magical cure all too. Maybe Seaform works, maybe it doesn't. I don't know and I doubt you do either in any real scientific terms.

So, if it ain't broke, don't try and fix it. If you're comfortable experimenting with your car and its engine, that is entirely your prerogative. Good luck.

Yeah, but this wasn't a poll.

Generally I feel the same as you do about magic potions. I didn't advocate the product either, I did confirm that CarQuest has it and posted the price I paid.

I do think it's dubious that modern fuel injected engines would need this. I don't think carbon fouling is much of a problem if spark plugs can go 160,000 kms or more without service. I do believe that fuel injectors can need cleaning. The computer will compensate and pulse longer of course, masking the effect. I've noticed improved idle after using this in my 9 year old car. I have no test equipment, so it may be perceived and not real.

There are 3 modes of use. Depending on your individual application, Seafoam may be of use. Some people do tinker and run their cars out of spec. Ive seen black smoke come from new cars that have supposedly been modded or tuned... Maybe these guys would have carbon build-up.

[Zoom Zoom Boy]

Yeah, but this wasn't a poll.

Generally I feel the same as you do about magic potions. I didn't advocate the product either, I did confirm that CarQuest has it and posted the price I paid.

I do think it's dubious that modern fuel injected engines would need this. I don't think carbon fouling is much of a problem if spark plugs can go 160,000 kms or more without service. I do believe that fuel injectors can need cleaning. The computer will compensate and pulse longer of course, masking the effect. I've noticed improved idle after using this in my 9 year old car. I have no test equipment, so it may be perceived and not real.

There are 3 modes of use. Depending on your individual application, Seafoam may be of use. Some people do tinker and run their cars out of spec. Ive seen black smoke come from new cars that have supposedly been modded or tuned... Maybe these guys would have carbon build-up.

Didn't realize it needed to be a poll to share feedback. I thought that was general purpose of the Internet's' forums...:)

Like I said, to each their own. Some might view Seafoam as some sort of 'preventative maintenance'. I don't and will stick to regular maintenance and unless my car is showing some discernable signs of issue, I won't be trying to 'address' it. I am just very anal about maintenance in general, who works on my car and what gets put into it.

[kevcol74]

I used it in the father in laws 97 GMC Sierra 5.7 (278,000kms on the original engine). Had bad lifter noise, after running seafoam in the crankcase for about 1000kms, the noise was almost gone completely (sold the truck for him, no idea if it cured it 100%) Also ran it through the brake booster and in the gas tank. Idled smoother after....
But, even after all this, the damn truck still wouldn't pass the e-test!! lol (was soooo close too!)
I'll use it again, but I don't expect miracles from it..... If I have a rough idle, hesitation or other simlar symmptons, for $10, I'll try it again. i've only heard good things about it, so I take that with a grain of salt!

[Fobio]

my 2 cents...

there are several engines tear downs of blown engines and engines ready to be built. there are confirmed cases of excessive carbon deposits on pistons, intake tract, etc. there are also theories that carbon build-up in higher-than-stock application is creating hot-spots and thus detonation/knock/blown engines...

all theories aside, here's my logic...

1. if you have enough carbon build-up that warrants seafoaming, then by all means go ahead, but realize that there is an underlying issue with your car for it to have excessive carbon build-up to beging with...so by seafoaming, you have temporarily relieved the symptoms, but the underlying causes remain, so you still have to fix that...

2. if you don't have or don't suspect carbon build-up, but really likes doing shit to your car...then go ahead...

3. if you don't suspect carbon build-up, and don't like to spend unnecessarily on the car, then don't do it...

I may fall under #2 since having higher mileage may warrant seafoaming for the peace of mind.

[starscream]

More then anything, the reason I want to do it is to prevent carbon buildup on the valves (not the side towards the inside of the cylinder, but the outside vale stems sorts speak). Seen a few pics of cars that werent 100% maintained and hence that build up (and yes they were DI engines not MFI). Since i bought the car used, I konw that I am going to do my damnest to maintain it but how can I be 100% certain previous owner did it? He says he maintained it, however I would just feel more safe knowing that I had done it myself.

I am thinking maybe 20-30kms before next oil change to pop some into the oil, and maybe do 1/3 of the bottle VIA the BPV and have it suck into the intake tract to clean off the valves. Anyone have any other idea's on how to get it to that intake tract spot?

[Fobio]

More then anything, the reason I want to do it is to prevent carbon buildup on the valves (not the side towards the inside of the cylinder, but the outside vale stems sorts speak). Seen a few pics of cars that werent 100% maintained and hence that build up (and yes they were DI engines not MFI). Since i bought the car used, I konw that I am going to do my damnest to maintain it but how can I be 100% certain previous owner did it? He says he maintained it, however I would just feel more safe knowing that I had done it myself.

I am thinking maybe 20-30kms before next oil change to pop some into the oil, and maybe do 1/3 of the bottle VIA the BPV and have it suck into the intake tract to clean off the valves. Anyone have any other idea's on how to get it to that intake tract spot?

Seafoam how-to:

http://www.mazdaspeedforums.org/forum/search.php?searchid=974072

Factory procedure to clean spark plugs:

http://www.mazdaspeedforums.org/forum/f10/cleaning-carbon-engine-4ooo-rpms-42625/?highlight=seafoam

[starscream]

Seafoam how-to:

http://www.mazdaspeedforums.org/forum/search.php?searchid=974072

Factory procedure to clean spark plugs:

http://www.mazdaspeedforums.org/forum/f10/cleaning-carbon-engine-4ooo-rpms-42625/?highlight=seafoam

You sir are pimptastic :D Thanks

[Fobio]

actually, this is the DIY Seafoam how-to:

http://www.mazdaspeedforums.org/forum/f111/diy-sea-foam-22041/?highlight=seafoam