View Full Version : 40K MILES oil change results
Fobio
12-01-2009, 02:27 PM
http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1281659
Okay...those of you following this saga...know the story....but the guy I am helping out (tps7c) waited 40k in between oil changes...so we decided to do his VANOS to see what the damage is.....The below is what we have, and I am speechless....I need help....I need my mommy.
Seriously though...I think we are going to remove as much as we can....do the VANOS job and let some Auto RX remove the sludge...hopefully.
My question is...at this point should we worry about trying to remove all of the visible sludge?
Oh yeah...actually 60k...I had to beat the truth outta him...lol
Looking for ideas and not smart ass comments...Toms a good guy...and is learning a valuable lesson....lol
Whats better than one Bimmer at the Wilson's.....Two!!!
http://img194.imageshack.us/img194/8930/dsc00856m.jpg
Starting out....yeah we are cleaning his engine compartment also.
http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/2382/dsc00851m.jpg
OMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMG
http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/1261/dsc00860rvk.jpg
Helppppppppp!!!!!!
http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/9883/dsc00858w.jpg
Backside of Cover.....Mommy!!!!!
http://img194.imageshack.us/img194/2046/dsc00861x.jpg
Sooo....If anyone has any other ideas...we are hip deep in shit as of 2030 Eastern Time.
Thanks for any help
Dane
Holy shit..that's alot of sludge
Fobio
12-01-2009, 02:37 PM
oops...it's actually 60K bwteen oil change...what an :AH
Fuman
12-01-2009, 02:46 PM
oops...it's actually 60K bwteen oil change...what an :AH
my heart ached...
Burner
12-01-2009, 02:49 PM
I bet the filter was clogged about 40k miles ago too.
Lease? :chuckle
Seriously, what was his reasoning for not changing his oil?
Donutz
12-01-2009, 02:57 PM
I just threw up a little bit. WT....
Iceman_F1
12-01-2009, 02:58 PM
DAMN...That's pretty crazy...
kevcol74
12-01-2009, 03:02 PM
Is it just me, or is alot of that sludge covered in metal shavings??
OMG, he is sooooo screwed!
SpeedBaby
12-01-2009, 03:02 PM
i can't believe that the engine actually ran for nearly 100,000 km without an oil change and the main issue after that is the sludge build up.
anyone wants to volunteer their mazda for an experiment? lol
Fobio
12-01-2009, 03:03 PM
for the record, 60,000 MILES = ~96,000KM...just under 100,000!
I want to kick the guy in the nuts...and give props to BMW for making an engine that can run on grime.
Iceman_F1
12-01-2009, 03:03 PM
i can't believe that the engine actually ran for nearly 100,000 km without an oil change and the main issue after that is the sludge build up.
anyone wants to volunteer their mazda for an experiment? lol
HELL no :chuckle
SpeedBaby
12-01-2009, 03:14 PM
for the record, 60,000 MILES = ~96,000KM...just under 100,000!
I want to kick the guy in the nuts...and give props to BMW for making an engine that can run on grime.
i remember when my aunt 'forgot' about the necessity of oil changes in her cadi sts and drove for about 12K over the suggested mileage. When the red oil light came on on her dash, she figured she'll just drive home and then call the dealer. at that point the engine just seized.
but 100K....that's just impressive
I'm surprised they never put additional sensors to detect a low oil level condition and prevent the car from starting next time u try to drive...
Fobio
12-01-2009, 03:36 PM
I'm surprised they never put additional sensors to detect a low oil level condition and prevent the car from starting next time u try to drive...
If this happened tonight, traffic will be great tmr as 1/4 of cars might be off the road.
mazdaskit
12-01-2009, 03:39 PM
what a waste of a bimmer lol
stevenma188
12-01-2009, 03:52 PM
Wow I'm surprised the car still ran with that much sludge.
Seriously...WTFFFFF was the owner thinking (or not thinking...)
Fobio
12-01-2009, 03:53 PM
Wow I'm surprised the car still ran with that much sludge.
Seriously...WTFFFFF was the owner thinking (or not thinking...)
they weren't thinking with their dipstick...that's for sure...
cwp_sedan
12-01-2009, 03:57 PM
Damn now that is a mess. I'm definitely glad I'm not working on that motor lol.
Walrus
12-01-2009, 04:17 PM
I knew a guy who never bothered to change his oil in his Ranger, just added oil every once in a while.. don't know what happened
Thrizzl3
12-01-2009, 04:34 PM
wow..don't know what to say other than WTF..
Darkfrosty7
12-01-2009, 04:37 PM
holy crap
JashiK
12-01-2009, 04:45 PM
wow. that is pretty nutty.
that bmw should have been given to me instead of that asshat.
Ya I remember when I was in high school and one of my friends moms drove an 01 corolla and NEVER changed the oil (she was clearly oblivious) and the engine just seized eventually. Had to pay for a new motor lol
This is just a sad story... I mean seriously now. Get a friggin brain.
SilentJay
12-01-2009, 04:57 PM
should have contacted BMW - i'm sure they'd take care of the cleaning costs - That feat in itself is a huge testiment to build quality.
Gizzmo_jr
12-01-2009, 07:14 PM
should have contacted BMW - i'm sure they'd take care of the cleaning costs - That feat in itself is a huge testiment to build quality.
I agree with you.
And like others have said, sure as hell don't wanna be the guy fixing this mess
Hives
12-01-2009, 08:09 PM
why wait 60 000 miles? no time to do it?
blankets3
12-01-2009, 11:17 PM
my g/f didnt change her oil in 3 years once
crono06
12-01-2009, 11:18 PM
my g/f didnt change her oil in 3 years once
LOL holy sh*t!~
Hives
12-01-2009, 11:55 PM
my g/f didnt change her oil in 3 years once
Lollll. What car was this?
silvermist99
12-02-2009, 12:31 AM
yummmm.. chocolate fondue
Slade
12-02-2009, 12:40 AM
My previous car (MX-3), I drove for almost 100,00 on 1 oil change :), no engine problems at all either.
I also commuted 500+km every weekend for 1.5 years(from Brighton to Hamilton and back), not to mention the 40-50km a day to drive to work and back.
Thing ran like a champ!
blankets3
12-02-2009, 02:23 AM
Lollll. What car was this?
2000(i think) Ford Taurus
as soon as the oil was flushed and new oil was put in the car felt so much nicer lol
iconicrocket
12-02-2009, 08:57 AM
BMW should fix it for free and use the document the incident for a commercial. That's amazing it ran for that long.
I knew someone who didn't change his oil on an '89 Accord and the engine seized. lol.
bubba1983
12-02-2009, 09:27 AM
more than likely easier to replace the head, and jus clean up the block/do a new bearing roll in on the bottom end...eitherway its alot of work for sure lol
kevcol74
12-02-2009, 09:53 AM
BMW should fix it for free and use the document the incident for a commercial. That's amazing it ran for that long.
I knew someone who didn't change his oil on an '89 Accord and the engine seized. lol.
Thats just a bad idea.....
"Here at BMW, we will reward you for being stupid! Drive our cars unmaintained for 100,000kms and we'll fix it for free! Why? Because you can and we have deep pockets!!"
Great, it ran that long.... but I've seen a Sebring run 65,000kms without an oil change (the girl had no idea that oil changes were needed) Needless to say, Chrysler did nothing for her. There is no rewarding stupidity. And yes, it did seize at that point.
My dad was bad for that, he always seem to have oil burners or leakers, so all he did was added oil, never changed it. His cars ran for a very long time, as it was always getting new oil in there...lol
Iceman_F1
12-02-2009, 09:55 AM
Thats just a bad idea.....
"Here at BMW, we will reward you for being stupid! Drive our cars unmaintained for 100,000kms and we'll fix it for free! Why? Because you can and we have deep pockets!!"
Great, it ran that long.... but I've seen a Sebring run 65,000kms without an oil change (the girl had no idea that oil changes were needed) Needless to say, Chrysler did nothing for her. There is no rewarding stupidity. And yes, it did seize at that point.
My dad was bad for that, he always seem to have oil burners or leakers, so all he did was added oil, never changed it. His cars ran for a very long time, as it was always getting new oil in there...lol
I THINK what he meant was that BMW should have fixed it for him to use it as an example. Obviously not doing it for EVERYONE...but for the "rights" I guess to use it in a commercial/ad of some kind.
Still probably would never happen...
kevcol74
12-02-2009, 09:59 AM
I THINK what he meant was that BMW should have fixed it for him to use it as an example. Obviously not doing it for EVERYONE...but for the "rights" I guess to use it in a commercial/ad of some kind.
Still probably would never happen...
But thats what I'm saying, if you show people it can do this, people are stupid, they will assume that means they CAN do it. We are talking about BMWs, yuppies that don't go under their own hoods. (not all, but 75% or more of them) They will just think "Oh, one less inconvenience, I only have to go in every 100K instead of every 8K"
Mty Mous
12-02-2009, 10:57 AM
I thought their engine oil change intervals are longer than 8K kms? One of the dealer was saying something about only requiring an oil change Once A Year or 20K kms cause they use Sythetic Oil :o
I obviously told the family member who's looking at these cars to ignore that advise and get the oil changed every 5~8K kms, cause a 20K interval is just plain stupid for the long run.
The 3-series sure do drive\handle nice tho, I can see why ppl love em so much! :)
I thought their engine oil change intervals are longer than 8K kms? One of the dealer was saying something about only requiring an oil change Once A Year or 20K kms cause they use Sythetic Oil :o
I obviously told the family member who's looking at these cars to ignore that advise and get the oil changed every 5~8K kms, cause a 20K interval is just plain stupid for the long run.
The 3-series sure do drive\handle nice tho, I can see why ppl love em so much! :)
I think it is 20,000km...at least for mercedez it's 20,000km and my dad's been changing his oil in his mercedez every 20,000km and so far he is a 310,000km and running strong..*knockwood*
kevcol74
12-02-2009, 11:02 AM
^ I don't know their intervals, I was just using an example... :chuckle
SpeedBaby
12-02-2009, 11:40 AM
both my x5's had 20K recommended intervals, which is typical for newer bimmers, but the guy managed to do 5 times that mileage
SilentJay
12-02-2009, 11:44 AM
I know of an older lexus (es350 I think) that had gone 200k on 4 oil changes - still went pretty good too
Olestra
12-02-2009, 06:48 PM
But thats what I'm saying, if you show people it can do this, people are stupid, they will assume that means they CAN do it. We are talking about BMWs, yuppies that don't go under their own hoods. (not all, but 75% or more of them) They will just think "Oh, one less inconvenience, I only have to go in every 100K instead of every 8K"
No kidding, imagine the warranty nightmare BMW would end up in.
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