Discussion - driving without lights on

[htc***]

Drives without a light on (no light @ the rear) only DRL. Heavy rain, snow, fog and dark etc.. when you can not see far and people tend to drive their car without rear light which easy cause an accident, especially around 7AM today .

[jonjon72]

Some people have no regard for their safety or that of others. Can't depend on the auto head lights as well. Better to be safe than sorry so just switch on the lights. Most cars today have the warning chime if you leave the lights on when exiting the car. So unless your deaf, there really is no excuse.

[towelsnap]

your suppose to at dawn and dusk... today at 7 it was dark. I have NO DRLS (disabled them) and older models don't have sensors too.. some people forget or are lazy... but if it's night time and I'm tryin to pull out of my driveway and you drive a black car no lights on and I can barely see you..... TURN YOU LIGHTS ON DAMNIT! lol But I agree ... pet peeve

[mazdabetty]

Yeah I see that a lot.... these people should not have their license if they can't figure this out....

Last time I was on my way to T.O. some guy in an Ontario-marked vehicle was driving with DRL's, at 8pm, PITCH black out, doing UNDER 100kph in the middle lane. Accident waiting to happen, no one could see him when coming up behind him. Everyone was flashing him but he thought it was because they wanted him to move over :loco

Seriously special, special people.

[towelsnap]

Mazdabetty drives with no lights




jk

[Donutz]

I always run, at the very least, my accessory lights and fogs; if I'm on the highway or conditions on the streets are bad/dark I'll have my lowbeams on as well. In fact, I tell my wife to turn on her headlights when she's driving, for the same reasons you've posted. I'd rather be visibile, especially on the highway when, in these conditions, some people will come roaring up on you from behind right into your trail of mist and snow. Funsanoons.

[mazdabetty]

Mazdabetty drives with no lights




jk

hahha, well they're so dim sometimes it feels like it :(

[SpeedBaby]

the worst is when you get a disabled car in the middle of the road standing with NO lights and NO hazards on! once i saw some lady parked like that on HWY7 middle lane in a snow storm conditions around 7pm (it was dark). She was just sitting in the car with her kid in it clearly just waiting for the accident to happen.

[cwp_sedan]

I see this all of the time. Dusk, dawn or friggin' snowstorm, it doesn't matter. There is always a couple of people who drive like this. The problem is that all auto manufactures allow the gauges/dash to be lit up when it's dark outside. Most people don't even know any better because of this. Brutal! If they couldn't see anything on the dash, they would at least be forced to turn the lights on.

[stevenma188]

That's happened to me before. I was driving a friends civic, and was so used to the auto lights that I forgot to turn the lights. It was hard to tell because the dash was lit. However, when the weather is really bad, I always drive with all my lights on, and sometimes even my 4ways depending on the conditions.

[CM3]

I see people like this all the time in Missisauga, one time I was heading back from the gym and a girl in a 350z busy talking away on her phone didn't notice her lights were off so at a red light I rolled my window down and tried to tell her the lights weren't on, she basically thought I was creeping on her or something so she gave me the finger and drove away...so I got a little frustrated so at the next set of lights I yelled "YOUR LIGHTS YOU DUMBA**" and she turned them on =)

[Noisy Crow]

some guy in an Ontario-marked vehicle was driving with DRL's, at 8pm, PITCH black out, doing UNDER 100kph in the middle lane. Everyone was flashing him but he thought it was because they wanted him to move over :loco

The thing is... these guys won't even be able to read the speedometer... so it they don't notice that they the odds of them figuring out being flashed at is about zero......

[tweak_s]

I see people like this all the time in Missisauga, one time I was heading back from the gym and a girl in a 350z busy talking away on her phone didn't notice her lights were off so at a red light I rolled my window down and tried to tell her the lights weren't on, she basically thought I was creeping on her or something so she gave me the finger and drove away...so I got a little frustrated so at the next set of lights I yelled "YOUR LIGHTS YOU DUMBA**" and she turned them on =)

Least now she knows you weren't JUST a creeper. But a creeper looking out for her ;) jks :P

For me, i switch fogs on for my DRLs (off = no drl), but on darker days the ambers go on as well. In terms of this morning when I left at 6, it was still dark so also on the low beams.

I don't understand how anyone can drive without the rears on on a day like today. Then again, I'm not surprised by much anymore.

[Iceman_F1]

I'll admit I sometimes for get at the dusk/dawn part. Judging when is a good time. However, any kind of mist/spray or bad weather, flip on at least acc lights (rears, turn signal on solid). Fogs & angel eyes always on. I see people like this and just cringe. To me, the same people doing this are the same people weaving in and out of traffic in bad weather without even signaling.

[cwp_sedan]

....without even signaling.

...and that's a hole other can of worms!! :bang

[Iceman_F1]

...and that's a hole other can of worms!! :bang

Yes...yes it is lol. I seem to only really see the ones that have ALL the bad habits all at once.

[-RJ3-]

Its an old urban legend.. Initiation LOL!

[htc***]

Manufacture should not make auto dash lit on when dark. In 3, A/T shift's light is on when switch on, why they don't make the same for the dash. Most accident accurs rear end more than head on.

[Twinbros]

Similar to other discussions such as left lane hoggers, no signals, speeding...etc...it is simply a lack of common sense of the driver. Some will have to learn the hard way be it a traffic ticket or a accident.

[SpeedBaby]

had a wonderful encounter this morning pulling out of my street: the minivan in front of me was waiting to make a turn with his left turn signal on. when traffic cleared up he surely made the turn - RIGHT TURN, while still signaling to the left! now who the f*ck does that?!!?? i appreciate the fact that he did signal (which seems to be a rare occurrence on our streets) but in this case it would've been safer not to signal at all. ppl like that should have their driving privileges revoked indefinitely...

/rant

[Zoom Zoom Boy]

Mazdabetty drives with no lights




jk


It's probably just not cold enough.
Turn down the heat. :hawt

[-RJ3-]

had a wonderful encounter this morning pulling out of my street: the minivan in front of me was waiting to make a turn with his left turn signal on. when traffic cleared up he surely made the turn - RIGHT TURN, while still signaling to the left! now who the f*ck does that?!!?? i appreciate the fact that he did signal (which seems to be a rare occurrence on our streets) but in this case it would've been safer not to signal at all. ppl like that should have their driving privileges revoked indefinitely...

/rant

that reminds me of the canadas worsst driver opening credits... some drivers dont deserve to drive.. they are in the 90% category!

[ZeroChalk]

I think just as dangerous are the cars who accidentally leave their signal on but keep driving straight. It's like... I think they are going in to the plaza... hold on.. wait not slowing down.. oh %$(* they are going straight.

[htc***]

I'm happen to see it today. 2 cars in the opposite way made a signal to turn left in their own lane then the road was clear. One driver had changed his mind then went straight without looking the opposite driver and almost caused the accident in middle road. I think it's a worst driver of the year.

[dragons4life]

Speaking about headlights, FFS all you people who drive with the combination of high Beams and Low beams seriously get your eyes check please. There is no reason to have high beams on as well, this has become a common thing on the roads. If your using high beams plus lows, GTF off the road seriously.

[Mlochab]

yea people dont care for others safety at all, i can understand not have day time running lights, but at night seriously other peoples safety is at sake,

[Dubcee]

Daytime: rear/accessory lights and DRLs. No fogs unless it's actually foggy/heavy snow or rain, because they can be annoying to oncoming traffic.

Nighttime: full lights. Highbeams only when there isn't traffic in front of me, oncoming traffic, a nearby intersection, or nearby pedestrians. No fogs unless it's actually foggy/heavy snow or rain, again because when it's an unlit country road and you're coming my way, the last thing I need is additional blinding from fogs. Turn it off!

The only time I turn the switch of Off is when I park the car. I never use auto, night time isn't the only time your rear can be hidden (ie blindingly bright sun reflecting off a wet road).

Maybe it's the previous 10 years of driving nothing but Volvos but this is drilled into me. In their old system, it was car is on = all lights on, car is off = all lights off, unless you manually turn off all your lights which also turns the dash lights off. No freaking idea why others don't use this :flaming

[jaimie08mazda3]

I hate when people don't put their lights on. I have my DRL's but it annoys me when I am driving in the dark and it is not light enough thus why I never drive at night with my DRL's. I once had some person in a van in front of me driving at about 10 PM at night and she did not have her lights on. And what the worst part about it was she had no brake lights so I almost went into her. DUMB PEOPLE WHO HAVE NO REGARD FOR OTHER PEOPLE!

[ZeroChalk]

speaking about FOGs.. I hate it when people turn on their rear FOGs when it is not foggy outside. It's plane annoying if you sit at the back of them at a red light and their rear light is blinding you. WTH.

[ericssonfan]

I ran into (not literally) a car with no lights on the DVP on my way to work the other night and he must have been on another planet cuz i was flashing him. Funny that nobody else seemed to care that his lights were off, either that or they also tried to remind him and gave up. Worries me sometimes how unaware some ppl can be on the road.

[Dreamliner]

How hard would it be to put in a sensor to have the lights go on automatically in ALL CARS? It can't be so expensive to do considering most cars these days have it.

[Souls]

DON'T get me started in this topic... drivers who are too stupid to put on their lights piss me off. My former 93 VW Passat VR6 - as soon as the key is set to 'on' all the parking lights come on... so at least you can still be seen from the rear, sh*t even my older 87 Audi Coupe GT did that way back then.

:complain
How F'n hard is it to put the dash lights back to the way it was in the 70's & 80's when you HAD to turn on your headlights to see the dash in the night??

ArrggGG!! now I'm really fired up! :flaming

[wtom]

How hard would it be to put in a sensor to have the lights go on automatically in ALL CARS? It can't be so expensive to do considering most cars these days have it.

It's automation that brings out the stupid in some people. Automate this, automate that, who needs to use their brains any more?

[Iceman_F1]

It's automation that brings out the stupid in some people. Automate this, automate that, who needs to use their brains any more?

Automated or not, people will still not use their brains. Does it make things easier, a bit yes. However still won't help those who expect them to come on with auto that won't turn them on in bad weather and make it harder for others to see because they have it set to auto and "if it's not on, must not need it"

[Rob23]

you only legally have to have your headlights on between certain times.
i was driving behind this guy the other night and the had no headlights on and all 3 break lights burnt out. it was so dangerous

[Iceman_F1]

you only legally have to have your headlights on between certain times.
i was driving behind this guy the other night and the had no headlights on and all 3 break lights burnt out. it was so dangerous


Identification lamps

(11) When on a highway at any time from one-half hour before sunset to one-half hour after sunrise and at any other time when, due to insufficient light or unfavourable atmospheric conditions, persons and vehicles on the highway are not clearly discernible at a distance of 150 metres or less, every commercial motor vehicle or combination of a commercial motor vehicle and a trailer having a length in excess of 9.2 metres or a width in excess of 2.05 metres shall carry three lighted lamps displaying green or amber lights at the front, except in the case of a public vehicle which shall display amber lights at the front, and three lighted lamps displaying red lights at the rear, and the lights of each colour shall be evenly placed not less than 150 millimetres nor more than 310 millimetres apart along a horizontal line as near the top of the commercial motor vehicle or combination of a commercial motor vehicle and a trailer as the permanent structure permits, and shall be visible for distances of 150 metres from the front and rear respectively of the commercial motor vehicle or combination of a commercial motor vehicle and a trailer. R.S.O. 1990, c. H.8, s. 62 (11).

So yes, by law 30 min before sunset and after sunrise = full lights. However if there is bad weather (heavy mist, heavy rain/spray, etc) that serves to make a car less/not visible at a distance of 150 meters, they have to have their lights on. Some people ignore this rule automated light system or not. There's also a matter of, even if it wasn't a law, why would you make your car LESS visible in bad weather? It takes less than a second to flick a switch to turn on your lights to make yourself at least more visible from traffic coming up from behind in bad fog or the spray from the highway. I actually like the law on a couple highways in the states. They state at the side of the road that it is the law to use full light systems if you are using your wiper blades. IE if the weather is bad enough to use the wipers, you should have full light system on due to visibility of others.

[Krazy]

okay.. headlights are one thing.
what if the guy in front of me don't have any brake lights.
(i had one on the way to waterloo from toronto)

If I rear end him... whose fault is it?
is it my fault for rear ending him?
and he walks off with just a ticket for the light?

What if I cant prove the lights werent working? (if i rearend him... it might not be able to prove his lights were broken before the impact)

[htc***]

So yes, by law 30 min before sunset and after sunrise = full lights. However if there is bad weather (heavy mist, heavy rain/spray, etc) that serves to make a car less/not visible at a distance of 150 meters, they have to have their lights on. Some people ignore this rule automated light system or not. There's also a matter of, even if it wasn't a law, why would you make your car LESS visible in bad weather? It takes less than a second to flick a switch to turn on your lights to make yourself at least more visible from traffic coming up from behind in bad fog or the spray from the highway. I actually like the law on a couple highways in the states. They state at the side of the road that it is the law to use full light systems if you are using your wiper blades. IE if the weather is bad enough to use the wipers, you should have full light system on due to visibility of others.

+1

[whiteomega]

Car makers should just make the car turn on its lights whenever it is running, and this problem would solved.

[ericssonfan]

okay.. headlights are one thing.
what if the guy in front of me don't have any brake lights.
(i had one on the way to waterloo from toronto)

If I rear end him... whose fault is it?
is it my fault for rear ending him?
and he walks off with just a ticket for the light?

What if I cant prove the lights werent working? (if i rearend him... it might not be able to prove his lights were broken before the impact)

Holy fc*k, I almost rammed the crap out of a VW on the 401 @ 110km/h just right now because he had both brake lights AND 3rd brake light burnt out. He must have known a light was out because there's a dashboard illumination warning you. Anybody know how to get poo stains/smell off a car seat? lol

Mazda braking FTW!!!!!!!!!!

[ocho mazda]

There isn't a moment goes by that some group of dumb polititians aren't passing some stupid law or another. One of my favourites involves Daytime Running Lights. What a moronic piece of legislation. FRONT lights only! Why?

I drive for a living and often spend 6 hours plus a day on the 401. On snowy/slusy/foggy days, days with reduced visibility, at least 70% of the cars I see have no rear lights on. Are they nuts? Most of these clowns are sitting in the centre or left lane, pissing along at or under the limit, thinking, "My, my, what a safe driver am I!" You're not! you're a menace to society and a threat to safety.

The law should have included rear lights. Since it didn't here's a simple rule: when you turn on your car, turn on your lights. Most modern cars have either a warning system to remind you if you forget to turn your lights off, or they may do it for you anyway.

So remember boys and girls; Engine On Lights On! Tio Ocho told you.