Fuuuuukk

[ZeroChalk]

I just crashed.. Car is in a ditch .. Everybody is okay.. Serious damage... I think?!!!!!

[bman13]

You think? Did you come home to post and left your car? How did you crash???

[stevenma188]

Oh noes. Glad you're ok. What happened man?

[cwp_sedan]

That sucks. Glad everyone is ok.

[ZeroChalk]

On iPhone sitting in opp cruiser right now. On way to collingwood. Stupid me went to swerve a skunk an ended in a ditch big one... Did a 360. Went backwards in to other lane.

[bman13]

On iPhone sitting in opp cruiser right now. On way to collingwood. Stupid me went to swerve a skunk an ended in a ditch big one... Did a 360. Went backwards in to other lane.

That sucks............................................. ...good thing everyone is okay.

[Tizmee24]

You need to find that Skunk ... thats jailwalking that ain't allowed on the road .. Good to heard you're all Ok ..

[DualSoul]

Most important thing is that you're OK, though I can't see the days ahead being too kind. Best of luck to you.

[condor888000]

And this ladies and gentlemen is the reason you're supposed to hit the damn thing...unless it's a deer/bear/moose/other large animal. If its below the hood, cream the sucker. Better to hit it then wind up in the ditch.

Thankfully no one was hurt. That's the important thing.

[ZeroChalk]

Most important thing is that you're OK, though I can't see the days ahead being too kind. Best of luck to you.

Not too sure what you mean by this... 2 tow trucks were needed to pull me out. Lip was destroyed in the process of taking the car out. Back is kinda screwed up and front. Pictures will be posted later when I get in front of a pc.

Time to drink!

[DualSoul]

Not too sure what you mean by this... 2 tow trucks were needed to pull me out. Lip was destroyed in the process of taking the car out. Back is kinda screwed up and front. Pictures will be posted later when I get in front of a pc.

Time to drink!

Just thinking of the hassle of the post-crash things you may have to deal with (police/insurance/etc). Honestly, it sounded better in my head... :(

[tweak_s]

Wow that sucks dude, glad everyone is okay, thats important as everyones said.

Hope everything works out for you though.

[Riftler]

Damn man, glad your ok but hope everything in the future will go easy for you and not a pain to deal with like insurance etc.

[PCLoadLetter]

That's terrible. Best of luck to you my friend, I hope everything works in your favour.

[Trinidad]

Oh no this is terrible, but I'm glad you're okay, I'm sure all will get sorted out, with insurance etc. That stupid skunk! :rant

[bunchi]

damn that sucks! But glad everyone's ok.. take care!

[MAZDA Kitten]

**** man. Same story for me. Driving home last night on the Red Hill Expressway swerved to avoid a huge ass raccoon. I spun out, did a 360 then went into a ditch where I did a 180. I thought the car was ****ed because driving over 70km the wheel was vibrating like crazy. This morning took it to the coin op washed everything off. Mazda okayed it. The car is fine.

Glad to hear you're okay. If my car made it out I think yours will be okay too.

Heres my baby after some turf surfing:
2302

2303

2304

[FLIPDADY]

**** man. Same story for me. Driving home last night on the Red Hill Expressway swerved to avoid a huge ass raccoon. I spun out, did a 360 then went into a ditch where I did a 180. I thought the car was ****ed because driving over 70km the wheel was vibrating like crazy. This morning took it to the coin op washed everything off. Mazda okayed it. The car is fine.

Glad to hear you're okay. If my car made it out I think yours will be okay too.

Heres my baby after some turf surfing:
2302

2303

2304
No!!!!!!

Glad you and the BBS rims are okay.:)

[cwp_sedan]

**** man. Same story for me. Driving home last night on the Red Hill Expressway swerved to avoid a huge ass raccoon. I spun out, did a 360 then went into a ditch where I did a 180. I thought the car was ****ed because driving over 70km the wheel was vibrating like crazy. This morning took it to the coin op washed everything off. Mazda okayed it. The car is fine.

Glad to hear you're okay. If my car made it out I think yours will be okay too.

Heres my baby after some turf surfing:
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2303

2304

:'(

[Dave_The_BMXER]

Holy shit what are the chances of two of you in one night damn!!

[MAZDA Kitten]

No!!!!!!

Glad you and the BBS rims are okay.:)

OMG Joe.. the impact into the ditch was so hard. For sure I thought I had a bent rim or two. Thankfully they held up! Just my shoulder and lower back are really sore but the car came out untouched.

[Tizmee24]

Darn' another one ugh.
Goverment should put some sign

No jailwalking on "GREEN LIGHT"

Glad you and your mazda are okey

[MAZDA Kitten]

Holy shit what are the chances of two of you in one night damn!!

I knowwwwwwww eh? Shit..

[PCLoadLetter]

Did you at least hit the raccoon?

[MAZDA Kitten]

NO!! he was soooo huge!!

[Skip]

so sorry to hear about your accidents, but luckily you guys are ok, 2 years ago I was in the exact same accident as the two of you..except I was goin around 90-100 and I swerved to avoid what seemed like a big box but it was a raccoon! I hit it but I also spun out and flipped my car upside down in a 6 ft ditch. Luckily I was able to get out the back window in one piece with just cuts. My 8 month old 3 was totalled but I was luckily ok, its kind of hard to resist your reflex to avoid things on the road like that. Hope everything goes ok guys!

[optiklenz13]

oh snap!! glad to know you guys are ok.. drive safe people.. wow!! two members in one night eh? that's shitty..

[Impressive]

Hopefully you're alright. At least you weren't intoxicated or anything. If it's a small animal, don't hesitate to run it over...I remember when I first got my G2 in my old civic I was going about 120 on backroads then all of a sudden, in a really foggy area too, a rabbit just jumped out infront of the car. I then proceeded to run over the poor thing. My g/f who was in the car at the time started to give me shit that she couldn't believe i hit an animal & don't feel remorse etc...I just turnedd to her and said "would you rather me swerve and both of us die? the rabbit would've been okay though!" & she shut up pretty quick.

[omalak]

I then proceeded to run over the poor thing. My g/f who was in the car at the time started to give me shit that she couldn't believe i hit an animal & don't feel remorse etc...I just turnedd to her and said "would you rather me swerve and both of us die? the rabbit would've been okay though!" & she shut up pretty quick.


LOL that made me laugh so hard... sounded like a manual there for a minute.. "proceeded" haha


Glad both of you are ok MK/ZeroChalk..

[ZeroChalk]

Glad mk you okay as well.

In hindsight yah I should have mowed it down. Guess when my passenger pointed it out I was startled and swerved around it. thought we are okay but I began to lose the back. Allstate has been pretty good... And I'm glad I have a bunch of friends up here this weekend to come rescue us. If it wasn't for them I dunno what I would do.

Pictures will come tomorrow when I get back to Toronto (I'm thinking it might not be too bad). Just the bumpers and suspension maybe. In the meantime they have provided me with a list of shops to take it to. Any recommendations?

----------- see below ---------
Further to our phone conversation, please find below lists of pro shops we have in the Markham/Richmond hill area.

NORTH SEVEN AUTO BODY LTD.
Street Address 145 RIVERMEDE ROAD, CONCORD/THORNHILL
Postal Code L4K3M4

Contact LOUIE RICCELLI/ELIO RICCELLI
Telephone 9056691121
Fax 9056691122


SUNNYSIDE AUTO LTD
Street Address 185 BULLOCK DRIVE, MARKHAM
Postal Code L3P7R4

Contact ED GORSKI / JOHN TURNER
Telephone 9054724500
Fax 9054724300


ASSURED ROY FOSS
Street Address 7200 YONGE STREET, THORNHILL
Postal Code L4J1V8

Contact JOE CANNATA
Telephone 9058863614
Fax 9058869643


IMPERIAL (WOODBINE) AUTO COLLISION
Street Address 30 ALDEN RD., MARKHAM
Postal Code L3R2S1

Contact TOM SAGSOZ
Telephone 9054752800
Fax 9054752802


FOREST HILL NORTH
Street Address 89 NEWKIRK RD., RICHMOND HILL
Postal Code L4C3G4

Contact JOE CANNATA/LOUIE PACITTI
Telephone
9057809254
Fax 9057809256


PLODER'S COLLISON CENTRE
Street Address 3 INDUSTRIAL PARKWAY SOUTH, AURORA
Postal Code L4G3V9

Contact TONY PLODER
Telephone 9057278700


O.A.C. CARSTAR (DOWNSVIEW)
Street Address 1221 FINCH AVENUE, WEST, NORTH YORK
Postal Code M3J2E8

Contact FRANK SOTTILE
Telephone 4166335652
Fax 4166330602
Fax
9057278242
















Hope these information will help you.

[Mr. Scruples]

Holy shit! Two in one night!.. When nature fights back it really doesn't fool around :p

Glad to hear no one was injured though (even the furry ones)

[Zoom Zoom Boy]

Just happy to hear everyone is okay in both accidents. Car's can be replaced, people not so much. Animals are tasty. Yum.

[bman13]

wow....I feel for both of you. MK, I remember reading in another thread how you were saying how you ordered your center caps from Japan?!?!? or am I mistaken. Glad everyone is okay.

[prinsesa]

I'm glad you were both okay.
Its pretty scary though, I dunno what Id do :s

aaand I actually saw an accident yday with a mazda3, but the car was in reaally really bad shape.
Glad it wasnt you two =/

[redsnoopy04]

Sorry to hear about the accident...like the others, real glad to hear you guys are ok..take care and best of luck going ahead..

[Riftler]

Two in one night is terrible, stupid animals hating on us TM3ers, but glad everyone is ok.

[Soyabean]

Glad to see both of you are ok. Its hard to say whether or not u should have just ran it over. Its just an instinct of ours to avoid hitting things so you cant control it. Glad both of you are ok

[Bouncx5]

Yup its is an intinct that cost me my old 3! just hit anything that comes infront of you! Glad you are ok. heres a link to mine from 2 years ago.
http://www.torontomazda3.ca/forum/showthread.php?24005-Totaled-my-Car-and-Lived!

[FONZ]

I would of ran them over.

Glad that everyone is ok and not injured.

[taz4432]

Glad to hear both of you (and any passengers) are alive and well. As has been said, cars can be replaced, people can't.



**** man. Same story for me. Driving home last night on the Red Hill Expressway swerved to avoid a huge ass raccoon. I spun out, did a 360 then went into a ditch where I did a 180. I thought the car was ****ed because driving over 70km the wheel was vibrating like crazy. This morning took it to the coin op washed everything off. Mazda okayed it. The car is fine.

Glad to hear you're okay. If my car made it out I think yours will be okay too.

Heres my baby after some turf surfing:
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2303

2304

MK...it was because of your rims that you ended up 'turf surfing'. They just wanted to visit home again! What else did you expect by running STi rims? :P

[DruidB]

My racoon count is up to 6 now... most of em big fuggers.. worst i've has is a bent tie rod and some minor plastic damage.

I have yet to hit one with my Mazda but i sure wont hesitate.

Think about your life first! And run the mini grizzly bears down!

[ZeroChalk]

Here some pics of the accident. Happened on a rural county road.

http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/9412/43705439.jpg

http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/4274/80005905.jpg

http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/1452/41841444.jpg

http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/4918/54793626.jpg

http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/7113/a11ac.jpg

http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/3263/a12g.jpg

[MistaChin]

Yowzaz!!! Really glad you're ok man.

[Gizzmo_jr]

You are the important thing and parts come second, they are replaceable. Still a shame to see what happened. Hope you get it back to the way it was, without much hassle, time and money. Here's hoping insurance does what it's intended for.

[ZeroChalk]

thanks guys for the support!

[n00bMeiSter]

NNNNNooooooooooooooooooo!!!!
Glad to hear you're okay though. Sucks about your car, but the damage doesn't look too too bad, but maybe that's just the angle and the fact it's night time.

[Soyabean]

Did they break your lip while towing it? It seemed fine before but in the pic with the tow truck your right side of the lip looks like it broke

[MAZDA Kitten]

Holy shit... that is one deep ditch. Thank God mine was a more shallow and I was able to drive out of it (how..? I dont know...)

But seriously glad to hear you and your passengers are okay. Nothing is worst than the feeling of your car out of control

[MajesticBlueNTO]

sucks that your car ended up in a ditch but at least you and your passengers are ok.

doesn't it say in the owner's manual (or is it the shop manual) that the "tow hook" in the front is not to be used to tow the car but, rather, it is a tie-down for transport?!
http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/3263/a12g.jpg

[gabbygenier]

really sucks man. looks like mostly body damage from what we can see. just like when i took the ditch few weeks ago, at least everyone is allright and thats whats important.

insurance covered mine cause i didnt have 5 grand to dish out on this. they painted the whole car except the hood and the roof, new bumpers and new trunk lid and also exhaust.

and i didnt know the tow hook was only for tie down, ive used it once to get unstuck, although i just had the passenger wheel in the snow and guess what wheel was turning. had to get out somehow.

http://i354.photobucket.com/albums/r418/gabbygenier/IMG00014.jpg
http://i354.photobucket.com/albums/r418/gabbygenier/IMG00004.jpg

[Dave_The_BMXER]

Did they break your lip while towing it? It seemed fine before but in the pic with the tow truck your right side of the lip looks like it broke


Not too sure what you mean by this... 2 tow trucks were needed to pull me out. Lip was destroyed in the process of taking the car out.

:(

[Marcin2105]

wow ... glad to hear that you guys are alright ... when I was running my eclipse I spun out out across all 3 lanes on the 401 at 110 and hit the wall hard, some ****er cut me off ... car was a right off and so were all my mods. Thank fully my gf at the time (who was 4 months prego) didn't get injured and our son was fine.

I ****ing HATE people who don't know how to drive .... oh and the guy who cut us off ... didn't even notice what happened and took off! grrr ...

Anyways ... glad you guys are good and well

[ZeroChalk]

Front lip damage was caused by the tow trucks. My car looked perfectly fine from the front side. I also told them about the tow hook but they insisted. I think they were also pulling it up by the tire/rim.

I just got a call from the bodyshop and it looks like it is only soft damage considering I landed in mud/water at the bottom.

stay tuned.

[Bothinator]

Hey all. Sorry to hear about your crashes. I totalled my car in Jan. Some idiot ran a stop sign and I T-Boned him doing 60k.
We spun counterclockwise about 145 degrees. Ouch. Amazingly... my fiance and I walked away from the crash. A little physio and some rest and we're okay now. The other driver got pretty beat up cuz I hit him right on his driver side door. He was driving a Saturn, so the thing fell apart. I think he just had a broken arm though. Stupid idiot.
Insurance was really good to me. I'm already driving a brand new 2010 Mazda 3! We figured that we walked away from one... why not get another!!

Here are the pics:
http://www.torontomazda3.ca/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=2833
http://www.torontomazda3.ca/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=2832

[TokyoKiller]

Ouch for all the accidents mentioned in this thread. Its insane how many Mazda's end up in accidents looking at all these pictures, the best part is, at least we know these cars are safe and can handle tough situations.

As long as everyone inside the cars involved walked away with no major injuries then its all good, cars are sheet of metal, you are flesh and bones....good luck with your situation ZeroChalk!

MazdaBetty, glad to hear your car wasn't damaged!

[-RJ3-]

I just crashed.. Car is in a ditch .. Everybody is okay.. Serious damage... I think?!!!!!

Hope everything is okay with you and your family...

Get better man!

[iconicrocket]

Glad to see you're not hurt.

That just sux.

[Kappa]

well i just had a crash to.. kinda.. we are sitting at a stop light and a big truck pulls up very close behind me and then the tracker trailer in front of me starts drifting back and bang... backed right into the front of me.... funny to hes from toronto... haha

[TokyoKiller]

Speaking of animals jumping on highways/roads, I met the driver of this car at work 2 weeks after the accident (he had a busted lip, broken legs, arms and he looked like he was beat up at a school playground..)

http://www.northumberlandtoday.com/ArticleDisplay.aspx?e=2561002

Him and his friend were in that ditch for 6 hours before he was able to pull himself out of the wreckage and walk onto the 401, no one would stop to help him for about 15 minutes...unbelievable.

As he told me the day I met him, the OPP told him, "Next time, just hit the damn thing and you'll be fine."

[Roconne]

As he told me the day I met him, the OPP told him, "Next time, just hit the damn thing and you'll be fine."
Exactly, unless you are about to hit something like a moose, DO NOT swerve. Swerving will likely cause more issues (flipping your car, running off the ditch, causing others to crash as well, etc...) than just directly hitting the animal.

Speaking of accidents though, a buddy of mine bought a used Mazda 3 yesterday. On his drive home, he was going straight through an intersection and a girl coming the opposite direction decided to make a quick left hand turn. The two had a head on collision and completely totalled his new car. He was alright, but that is such shitty luck.

[TokyoKiller]

Exactly, unless you are about to hit something like a moose, DO NOT swerve. Swerving will likely cause more issues (flipping your car, running off the ditch, causing others to crash as well, etc...) than just directly hitting the animal.

Speaking of accidents though, a buddy of mine bought a used Mazda 3 yesterday. On his drive home, he was going straight through an intersection and a girl coming the opposite direction decided to make a quick left hand turn. The two had a head on collision and completely totalled his new car. He was alright, but that is such shitty luck.

Ouch! I hope he gets at least what he paid for it. I guess that car wasn't meant to be. As long as he is OK and it wasn't his fault :).

Also, I believe if you hit the animal the accident is not deemed an at fault, but if you swerve and sustain damage then it is considered at fault. Someone correct me if I am wrong...

[Gizzmo_jr]

Also, I believe if you hit the animal the accident is not deemed an at fault, but if you swerve and sustain damage then it is considered at fault. Someone correct me if I am wrong...

Correct. If you hit it, comprehensive insurance and not at fault. If you swerve, hit something/someone else it's collision insurance and deemed at fault.

Been there, done that.

[Noisy Crow]

Also, I believe if you hit the animal the accident is not deemed an at fault, but if you swerve and sustain damage then it is considered at fault. Someone correct me if I am wrong...

Yup. Hitting the animal is covered under comprehensive. Swerving and smacking up your car comes under "loss of control of vehicle" and counts as accident when determining your rate.

[TokyoKiller]

Its sad how driving schools do not teach you all this, hence the amount of bad drivers on the road. It blows my mind how most people slam their brakes when trying to avoid a collision instead of trying to avoid it by looking for a way out.

[Roconne]

Its sad how driving schools do not teach you all this, hence the amount of bad drivers on the road. It blows my mind how most people slam their brakes when trying to avoid a collision instead of trying to avoid it by looking for a way out.This is why I believe Young Drivers is a great program. Young Drivers seems to get a bad rap when it comes to driving schools, but they actually take the time to teach you how to deal with these emergency situations. Yeah it's an expensive program, but they teach some good things that most driving schools do not even bother to mention.

Not swerving when an animal is running across the road is one of the things my instructor taught me. It's pretty sad that most people do not know that until after their first incident. Then they find out they are at fault for the damage just because they didn't want to hit a squirrel or whatever.

[MajesticBlueNTO]

This is why I believe Young Drivers is a great program. Young Drivers seems to get a bad rap when it comes to driving schools, but they actually take the time to teach you how to deal with these emergency situations. Yeah it's an expensive program, but they teach some good things that most driving schools do not even bother to mention.

Not swerving when an animal is running across the road is one of the things my instructor taught me. It's pretty sad that most people do not know that until after their first incident. Then they find out they are at fault for the damage just because they didn't want to hit a squirrel or whatever.

driving schools teach you the bare minimum when it comes to driving and really only what is required to pass the G2 and G tests. you don't even need to take a driving school to pass the tests.

something like Ian Law's Car Control School (http://www.carcontrolschool.com) will teach you proper collision avoidance and exit maneuvers in a controlled environment (and not just to brace yourself). any type of advanced driver training is a worthwhile investment over spending big money on an expensive "driving" school.

[ZeroChalk]

Yup. Hitting the animal is covered under comprehensive. Swerving and smacking up your car comes under "loss of control of vehicle" and counts as accident when determining your rate.

Errr.. I wasn't held at fault for dodging the animal.

[ZeroChalk]

This is why I believe Young Drivers is a great program. Young Drivers seems to get a bad rap when it comes to driving schools, but they actually take the time to teach you how to deal with these emergency situations. Yeah it's an expensive program, but they teach some good things that most driving schools do not even bother to mention.

Not swerving when an animal is running across the road is one of the things my instructor taught me. It's pretty sad that most people do not know that until after their first incident. Then they find out they are at fault for the damage just because they didn't want to hit a squirrel or whatever.

In the article that was referenced he was trying to avoid a deer so I think he was justified in trying to avoid it. It's higher than your hood.

Yes Young Drivers does teach you some good tips (some unreasonable, like leave a 2 car gap at the traffic light and slowly creep up when traffic comes from behind). I think it is natural to try and avoid it - plus sometimes you react defensively to protect your car.