Time to make a decision

[blankets3]

So i been thinking and i know i really really want a rwd car, im so tired of fwd and no power, no excitement..

Id love to get rid of my car for around 9 with everything. (do u think thats a reasonable price?)
save up 2-3 grand and buy an s13...

the only thing I'm kinda worried about is the insurance on it since im still under 21, but tbh i don't LOVE the Mazda 3, i don't even love Mazda as a company, they simply have disappointed me so much after purchasing the Mazda 3 it makes me think wtf, its the simple things but it just seems like they aren't thinking when they built car's the only car they have ever made that i wanted was the rx7 and if i got one i wouldn't even keep the engine in it... don't get me wrong tho i LIKE my car i think its an awesome everyday car and good for the people that have a family but still want a sporty looking sedan.

the other thing that makes me worry is the a rwd in the snow, it should be fine with winter tires and safe driving but again it would be rwd so it still wouldn't be the safest thing to do.

thoughts/opinions?
do u think 9g's is asking far too much for a 05 mazda3?

[loganm3]

RWD in the snow is just not fun.....My buddy had a 240 with a s13 swap and he drove it ONCE with winters on, realized the car was not suited for winter and bought a winter beater the next day.

As for insurance....21 is not the "big break" time, it's 25! You'd have to shop around for the best quote but I wouldn't be suprised if the rates are just as high as your Mazda 3. Then you also need to factor in how much you are going to mod your car. If insurance finds out you have a swapped engine and other goodies...and something bad happens they will drop you and possibly not pay for your damages (this happened to a friend with a RX7 who put in a Turbo II engine).

I know your delmia about how the Mazda 3 is not a sports car....it's not as fun as a 240. Everything is about tradeoffs....if you want more fun, you're going to lose functionality and it will cost you more.

Now all this being said....I say go for a 240! Enjoy your sports car days before you need to buy a Mazda 3 to fit a baby seat and stroller.

The other option....keep your Mazda 3 and build a cheap track car. I solved my "no fun" delima by building a 323 GTX....and with a turbo and awd I always have a smile on my face.

Good luck

[blankets3]

if i got one it would be rhd, right from japan. i would never get a 240 from here.. people treat them like crap and beat the hell outta them. ( my buddy has one, i know the community well)

so the car would be 100% stock (alrdy have be a turboed sr) i would simply rust proof the car 100% and than vinyl wrap it flat black

(coils and rims also, lol)

[dentinger]

be careful with RHD cars. i've heard they are getting pulled off the streets because of "street racing"
stupid, i know.

[Riftler]

Friend's brother got from straight from Japan, got an RX-7, first week the car was vandalized. Pay attention to the area you live in too, some people get mad jealous and loves to **** with other people's rides

[m_bisson]

RWD is perfectly fine in the snow if you know what you're doing. You need to drive differently than FWD, but it's actually safer in emergency situations.

[SSmoked]

looken for a rwd sports coupe?? u looken at american cars or jdm cars. get ready to spend some money because rwd coupes are expensive.
imo im a gm guy i would go for a Camaro SS if i could afford it, but clearly i dont have 45k for a car.

[loganm3]

If you're planning on getting a RHD car and you're under 21....stop. I doubt ANYONE will insure you. You don't want a RHD daily driver, it's a pain. I've driven them....7 to be exact, and they are god aweful when turning left. Parts and service is also not fun....as most North American counterpart cars don't use the same parts, so parts get shipped from Japan.

RWD safer in snow....depends on the car. I feel much much safer driving my fwd 3 than my dad's rwd CTS in the winters.

I'd agree to a Camaro....and I even know of a nice Z28 for sale! Stick with LHD....and if you want a car that hasn't been beat up and rusted out, look down in the states! Don't let my nay saying stop you, but I do advise you check oout insurance quotes before you even start looking at cars.

[blankets3]

Friend's brother got from straight from Japan, got an RX-7, first week the car was vandalized. Pay attention to the area you live in too, some people get mad jealous and loves to **** with other people's rides


Thanks, i live in a decent area and i have a gated drive way so unless they REALLY want to they wont be hitting my car, + my dads alfa sits in the back and nothings has ever happened , i would be very careful when i went out tho for sure


looken for a rwd sports coupe?? u looken at american cars or jdm cars. get ready to spend some money because rwd coupes are expensive.
imo im a gm guy i would go for a Camaro SS if i could afford it, but clearly i dont have 45k for a car.

Jdm all the way, i would never buy an american car, (unless it was a cobra,viper or something rly rly high end i could never afford, even than id still rather have a r8 or gt-r)


If you're planning on getting a RHD car and you're under 21....stop. I doubt ANYONE will insure you. You don't want a RHD daily driver, it's a pain. I've driven them....7 to be exact, and they are god aweful when turning left. Parts and service is also not fun....as most North American counterpart cars don't use the same parts, so parts get shipped from Japan.

RWD safer in snow....depends on the car. I feel much much safer driving my fwd 3 than my dad's rwd CTS in the winters.

I'd agree to a Camaro....and I even know of a nice Z28 for sale! Stick with LHD....and if you want a car that hasn't been beat up and rusted out, look down in the states! Don't let my nay saying stop you, but I do advise you check oout insurance quotes before you even start looking at cars.

I know i would rly have to look into the insurance and thats what might be the thing that stops me ...

I do agree, and i would love to get the LHD 240 over the RHD 180 but the ones here are broken down high km's and rust buckets or ricers have beat the complete hell outta them "drifting them" ...(into walls n curbs) and the ppl that do the srt swaps here do them sooooooo bad i wouldn't trust one with life time warranty! That being said I like to drive to drive, i never rush anywhere so i don't mind waiting for the yellow if I need 2, and i don't care if ppl qq behind me, if they don't get to turn, they aren't driving a s13

I know the parts are going to suck to find n be more expensive, like i said i have a friend in the s13 community so i know a few places that can order parts

[x_o_k_x]

be careful with RHD cars. i've heard they are getting pulled off the streets because of "street racing"
stupid, i know.

I have never been pulled over *knock on wood*. As long as you are not being stupid. S13 is a drift car. Why do you want s13 not Pulsar, Subaru or even Skyline? Also driving s13 in winter, is nuts lol. Its not meant to be driven in winter. Thats like taking out Porshe 911 turbo in 10cm of snow.
And someone mentioned, basic rule #1 Do not pass/make left turn unless you are 100% there is no car oncoming and have clear view.
Check out rightdrive.com when you ready to place an order.

[RBoy8]

Find a 90+ Volvo 740 Turbo and enjoy RWD, cheap insurance, and the ability to run a ton of PSI easily. lol

What about an E30 or E36 Bmw?

[shu5892001]

i would save up and pick up a decent R33 GTR if i were you

[blankets3]

I have never been pulled over *knock on wood*. As long as you are not being stupid. S13 is a drift car. Why do you want s13 not Pulsar, Subaru or even Skyline? Also driving s13 in winter, is nuts lol. Its not meant to be driven in winter. Thats like taking out Porshe 911 turbo in 10cm of snow.
And someone mentioned, basic rule #1 Do not pass/make left turn unless you are 100% there is no car oncoming and have clear view.
Check out rightdrive.com when you ready to place an order.

thats exactly why i want a S13, I love drifting, its the most amazing thing one person can do with a car, i want to take my car to the track and work on my drifting, some people like going 0-60 as fast as possible in a stright line, me i wanna get sideways! my friend has winter driven his 240 and it was pretty bad i will agree, but he just took it slow and kept his distance n hes been okay with it.

I love the skyline and have contemplated the two, but more than anything i want to get a drift car (obviously for track, i would never do it on the road) and even tho skyline can do it, 180's are simply "thee drift car" they look beautiful i love everything about them from the Zip-tie's holding most of their body to the 90's interior, the jdm tail lights, the super bright drifting rims, super wide stance, the stretch tire just everything the cars i love the pig nose, i love the body of the hatch's --- they just give that 90's jdm ride, like common they even have flip head lights!! a pulsar is "meh" never rly liked the thing to much money id rather get something else i never say the reason to spend that much on that car, i wouldn't spend that much money on one id rather save a little more and get the skyline

sub's are not drift cars, and like i said i rly want to take this car out Sundays and hit the track and just get sideways, sure they are much much much safer in the winter and yes they have all the advantages of a rwd car but they also have all the disadvantages of a fwd car,

I would get my car from quebeckjdm i think it was called or goonet, righthand drive is the biggest scam in the world they over price cars sooooo much, i can find mint mint mint (kings class) skyline for almost 1/2 the price they sell their skylines for, i have 0 respect for them.


Find a 90+ Volvo 740 Turbo and enjoy RWD, cheap insurance, and the ability to run a ton of PSI easily. lol

What about an E30 or E36 Bmw?

all nice cars, but Jdm all the way, + they look so much nicer and sporty


i would save up and pick up a decent R33 GTR if i were you

iv'e seriously thought about it, and even on the emissions the skyline would be better since its awd n cant be tested on some things, but honestly when it cames down to it, the looks, the fact that its like the best drift car, ive been in a 240 and ive been in a skyline (r32) and the skyline just always seems like it wants to go faster, its a F*king beast and daily driving i wouldn't enjoy it, id get a speeding ticket day 1, later at night day 1, morning of day 2 the sound of the engine is just screaming for more power... its never enough it literally feels like Godzilla just a power monster

the 180 is an awesome dd, kinda sleeper look to it with the turbo its a pretty powerful car, its got that all around feel, its basically ready to drift right from the get go which i love the flip tail lights (and when i get bored of them a s15 front end swap) and i like the 240 body over the skyline, (at least the r32 + r33) and if i rly got upset about the sr t engine i can always take it to sg garage (they build drift cars) and get a rb swap done :P


Annnnnnnnnnnd for all u skyline lovers :P

Worlds best drift was done in a 180sx

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZBSVqOc-CN4

:D cant get anymore sideways than that his front end was backwards for god sakes!
now for some :drool:
http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o205/mlmsilvias14/180sx-4.jpg
http://noriyaro.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/noriyaro_wakamatsu_180SX_nikko_004.jpg


i have rly been eye balling this one, needs some d-ricing, but over all its a pretty nice looking 180sx

http://www.jdmmontreal.ca/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=4&products_id=161




so what do we all think about a huge price tag of 9g's for my current mazda3. everything included ( yellow rims and all!)
is it a "reasonable price to ask" what would u put it up for?

i know mods don't usually help the sale of the car but i don't want ne thing on that car since the huge difference in cars would call for much different mods.

[Burner]

Before you buy a RHD car, see if you can get insurance for it. I'm seeing a lot of people posting on the net lately about having trouble insuring them for daily driving use in Ontario. It seems that more and more insurance companies are just flat out refusing to insure RHD cars.

[towelsnap]

^+1 .... heard it's a pain to get insurance.... that and people who have bought cars from Japan RHD.... they've been driven hard and have had lots of issues.

[SirWanker]

Before you buy a RHD car, see if you can get insurance for it. I'm seeing a lot of people posting on the net lately about having trouble insuring them for daily driving use in Ontario. It seems that more and more insurance companies are just flat out refusing to insure RHD cars.

++ on this. From what I last heard, the RHD will only be insured provided it is not your primary car ( proof needed of course ).

[JashiK]

I have never been pulled over *knock on wood*. As long as you are not being stupid. S13 is a drift car. Why do you want s13 not Pulsar, Subaru or even Skyline? Also driving s13 in winter, is nuts lol. Its not meant to be driven in winter. Thats like taking out Porshe 911 turbo in 10cm of snow.
And someone mentioned, basic rule #1 Do not pass/make left turn unless you are 100% there is no car oncoming and have clear view.
Check out rightdrive.com when you ready to place an order.

From my understanding the Porsche 911 turbo's are AWD. I'm sure it'll still be a pain in the ass to drive in the winter, but i'm sure stability would be much better than a S13. If I am wrong pls correct me...

[froggy]

From my understanding the Porsche 911 turbo's are AWD. I'm sure it'll still be a pain in the ass to drive in the winter, but i'm sure stability would be much better than a S13. If I am wrong pls correct me...

Yes and no, all depends on year I believe all the porsche 911 turbo's mid 90's and up are all AWD, the older ones I believe were RWD only, unless someone decided to turbo their Carrera 4. Even a regular porsche would be fine to drive in the winter, it has good traction because of the engine over/(behind) the rear axle, it is also back heavy so when it goes around, it goes around. Like any car in the winter it has to be driven with respect.

Oh to the OP Having a RHD "drift car" as a daily driver, I can't imagine it being a daily driver. Keep your car, save up and get your s13 or whatever you end up getting as a pure track car, and take it out on weekends for what it was meant to do. People who are more familiar with insurance would tell you better but I think most insurance companies have policies for situations like that.

[x_o_k_x]

sry I was under imperssion that 911 was rwd. But I hope everyone got my point I was trying to make.

The only time I get sideways is when its raining:chuckle :bana

[JashiK]

sry I was under imperssion that 911 was rwd. But I hope everyone got my point I was trying to make.

The only time I get sideways is when its raining:chuckle :bana

the 911's are rwd except the turbo and carrera 4's. early 90's and older turbos aren't awd according to froggy (which i'm sure he's right).

[blankets3]

Oh to the OP Having a RHD "drift car" as a daily driver, I can't imagine it being a daily driver. Keep your car, save up and get your s13 or whatever you end up getting as a pure track car, and take it out on weekends for what it was meant to do. People who are more familiar with insurance would tell you better but I think most insurance companies have policies for situations like that.

i thought about doing a pure track car. it is something to keep in mind

im starting to get worried about rhd insurance now, i think im going to make a few calls today n see what they say.

[RBoy8]

Can't you pick up a Nissan 240 somewhere here or down South (as rust might be a concern)?

Regarding your 3 however... looking at Kijiji, I'm sure $9K is a good price... heck I'm sure you could even fetch more than that. If I were you though, I'd try and return it to as close as stock as possible. It might be a bit of a hassle, but at the same time, it'll end up being easier to sell since you open the doors to a larger number of people. Chances are, an average person/family who's looking for a normal car to drive around probably would not look at a modified car. If anything, a stock car could technically be "worth more" than a modified one... plus, you could then sell off those parts separately and make more money. :)

[taz4432]

Can't you pick up a Nissan 240 somewhere here or down South (as rust might be a concern)?

Regarding your 3 however... looking at Kijiji, I'm sure $9K is a good price... heck I'm sure you could even fetch more than that. If I were you though, I'd try and return it to as close as stock as possible. It might be a bit of a hassle, but at the same time, it'll end up being easier to sell since you open the doors to a larger number of people. Chances are, an average person/family who's looking for a normal car to drive around probably would not look at a modified car. If anything, a stock car could technically be "worth more" than a modified one... plus, you could then sell off those parts separately and make more money. :)

True...but his mods are nothing that would turn off a 'family-oriented' buyer. Just take out the 12" Kicker and I'm sure it'll be quite attractive.

[x_o_k_x]

just a quick note, When I started calling insurance places and mentioning RHD, they automatically said no. So dont mention RHD car, unless if they ask. Just give them make, model and year. And they made special quote for me and cheaper then Mazda3.
PM me and I will give you some info on where you can go.

[blankets3]

I could pick up a 240 here but they are rly hard to find without rust and in good condition, most will have high kms and none will have the Japanese motor (SR20DET) ( Max Power = 153 kW (205 hp) @ 6000 rpm and Max Torque = 274 Nm (203 ft•lbf) @ 4000 rpm ) the north American engine is like less than 150 hp

and as far as selling my car to a family i dont think thats gonna happen, the black on the car is paint :/ + i dont want the headach of getting rid of everything i just would like it all gone in one go.

sending a pm now!

[BlackIce]

240sx has been my favourite car since i was 13 years old! ive always wanted one but the fact that its RWD my parents wouldnt let me have one, they said they would trash it if i bought one. i say keep the Mazda3 as a DD and buy a 240sx from a club site like SON240SX.ORG (sorry if im not allowed to advertise other car clubs, but its a totally different car so im hoping its ok!) they take good car of their cars and most already come with good mods. just save up $5,000 and youll be able to get a 240 for occasional driving so that way insurance wont be too expensive. or make it a summer car with the MZ3 as a winter beater. thats wat i would do. GL though, im really glad to see other people have interest in S13s! BTW on son240sx there are some cars with the SR20DET motor, with only 80,000kms on the motor! just gotta know where to look :D

[laksman91]

Why not a LHD 300ZX Twin Turbo. Could be a good car if you wanna get sideways

[SilentJay]

The SR20 is famous for it's ability to handle boost, though i've had more experience boosting the KA24. There's potential man!

[DruidB]

ive been in a 240 and ive been in a skyline (r32) and the skyline just always seems like it wants to go faster, its a F*king beast and daily driving i wouldn't enjoy it, id get a speeding ticket day 1, later at night day 1, morning of day 2 the sound of the engine is just screaming for more power... its never enough it literally feels like Godzilla just a power monster


If an R32 is too much power for you and a F@king beast... Then thank god your not thinking about an American RWD coupe.. You would shit your pants and fly off the road :chuckle