iPhone 4

[optiklenz13]

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my oh my!!!

[optiklenz13]

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[Axelarate]

My oh my indeed. Another expense coming up for me. LOL

[Turok]

I've wanted one of these since those pics were leaked a couple months back :)

Glad I waited on getting an iphone

[optiklenz13]

I'm excited about this part.

HD Video recording, 720p at 30 fps. must be nice!!!

[laksman91]

Can't wait till Rogers announces the 1 year contract extension!

[Roconne]

I've wanted one of these since those pics were leaked a couple months back :)

Glad I waited on getting an iphone
Same here. This will be my next phone. I always said I'd never get an iPhone, but there is just something about this new one that makes me want to have it.

[Turok]

Same here. This will be my next phone. I always said I'd never get an iPhone, but there is just something about this new one that makes me want to have it.

Ive wanted one for awhile.. but after I saw the leaked pics couple months ago.. I decide to wait.. just like the ipad.. in 6-8 months they will announce a newer version.. with new this and that :)

[laksman91]

Ive wanted one for awhile.. but after I saw the leaked pics couple months ago.. I decide to wait.. just like the ipad.. in 6-8 months they will announce a newer version.. with new this and that :)

that cycle never stops, every year a new one will be released.

[KVS17]

"Pre-orders start a week from tomorrow. And we're shipping in 5 countries. In July we're shipping in 18 more."

Canada is not one of the first 5 lol.....

[laksman91]

"Pre-orders start a week from tomorrow. And we're shipping in 5 countries. In July we're shipping in 18 more."

Canada is not one of the first 5 lol.....

lol.. i noticed that too, we're probably brushed under the USA title, hopefully

[Fobio]

Got the original iPhone and 3G...skipped 3GS and will be getting this...

I miss the days where I could walk into an US Apple Store, buy the original with a CDN credit card, and secretly telling the sales staff to FFFF off with a sly smile when they said, "it might not work in Canada sir and if you hack it, you void the warranty"...LMFAO...

Now...we'll have to see about how Rogers will handle this...

[mazda_gurl]

Dibs

[KVS17]

lol.. i noticed that too, we're probably brushed under the USA title, hopefully

hmm maybe not... because the ipad sold in the states before it hit Canada, so might be the same with the iPhone..

[hit26k]

I'm holding off for one too. Watched the key note and couldn't stop laughing when the demo failed...

"all kinds of error messages about not being connected to the internet popping up on iPhone 4"

[cwp_sedan]

Got the original iPhone and 3G...skipped 3GS and will be getting this...

+1


:drool

[Unoriginalusername]

i want that phone :) ... nice upgrades compared to my 3g

[Turok]

"Pre-orders start a week from tomorrow. And we're shipping in 5 countries. In July we're shipping in 18 more."

Canada is not one of the first 5 lol.....

Of course Canada isn't in the first 5.. typical

[p-o-g-i]

Looks like I'll need to call low people in high places.... hahaha

[cwp_sedan]

http://www.apple.com/iphone/design/#design-video

[Gizzmo_jr]

Got the original iPhone and 3G...skipped 3GS and will be getting this...
Add me to that club

[KVS17]

Of course Canada isn't in the first 5.. typical

well the border to the US is only like an hour away (depending on what part of the GTA you live in ) so its not that bad lol

[iconicrocket]

Me thinks, that the line up will be longer than the iPhone 3GS launch.

Good luck to all the campers... lol

[DruidB]

Ill keep my 3gs as it really does everything i need and more... but once my contract is up i'm sure ill get into the latest and greatest iphone.

[TokyoKiller]

Time to call Rogers and "switch" to WIND. :chuckle

[Unoriginalusername]

the 3gs will run the os the same, its only the 3g that won't be able to do the multi-tasking etc.

[tmpz]

the 3gs will run the os the same, its only the 3g that won't be able to do the multi-tasking etc.

I'll live with my 3G and jailbreak for the rest features.

[yearoftherat]

the 3gs will run the os the same, its only the 3g that won't be able to do the multi-tasking etc.

Unless your iphone is JB'ed...:chuckle

[SilentJay]

F*** Telus and their craptasitc HSPA plans... I missed the boat on that $50/5GB iPad exploit :(

[-cj-]

None of the initial 5 countries are countries that have unlocked iPhones (ie Hong Kong and a few others), so buying the iPhone 4 in the US will be a waste of time and money... Also, since it uses a microsim, you can't run a proxy-sim to fake being on AT&T (like the old school days)... Gonna have to wait :/

[iconicrocket]

Any guesses as to how much this puppy is going for in Canada when it launch?

I'm guessing 3 years contract and $349 for 32gig, $249 for 16gig.

[leems]

Time to call Rogers and "switch" to WIND. :chuckle

+1 LOL

[Gizzmo_jr]

I loaded up Rogers.ca on my monitor and threw my wallet at the screen. Say what you will, i'm done with my 3G and getting this 0 day.

[Fobio]

^^ you guys are jokes...lol...I don't even bother quoting...you know who yous are...

I can see the suits already at Rogers scheming..."oh yeah? you want iphone4?...Well you need to "upgrade" your $30/6gig plan to our new and improved $50/5gig plan...now bend over...oh wait...you forgot your kneepads, call us back in a year to upgrade..."

[ZeroChalk]

Got the original iPhone and 3G...skipped 3GS and will be getting this...

.....

Got the 3GS... I'm gunna skip this version 4 and get version 6... 1080P, Satelite receiver and Night Vision!:headbang

[yearoftherat]

Just for you fanbois...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FHngLJ0RlNg&feature=player_embedded#!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cKoLp_lGo14&feature=player_embedded#!

[stevenma188]

All you guys getting rid of your 3G, wanna sell it to me for cheap?

[KVS17]

i'm stuck on a BB contract with Telus, it hasnt even been a year, and my Tour broke twice, a telus employee forgot to put my microsd card back in the new phone he was setting up so i lost it, i got a call from the store saying my 2nd phone is ready to pick up and so i went to the store only to have an employee say "we cant give it to you its not ready, we forgot to put it in our inventory". needless to say i wish i didnt switch from Fido for this, and now i want the new iPhone but since i started this contract in Oct, looks doubtfull i can get it :(

[p-o-g-i]

All you guys getting rid of your 3G, wanna sell it to me for cheap?

hahah.. I can sooooo see this happening. You'll see the 3G drop down in price for sure, while everyone will try to sell there's off to upgrade to a new one. I just feel bad for the loser's like me who just got their 3GS within the last few months.....

[CoolColombian]

I'm glad I stick to my 3G and waited for this, will be getting one for sure. Love the increase in battery capacity and the multitasking process.

[DualSoul]

Looks like this may be my first Apple product.

[TokyoKiller]

Looks like this may be my first Apple product.

And it won't be your last...I can assure you that.

[MistaChin]

Eff this my LG chocolate blows this out of the water...



nvm, DO WANT!

[SilentJay]

LG Chocolate? Like the first generation of chocolate?

[tmpz]

LG Chocolate? Like the first generation of chocolate?

There's a new LG Chocolate: http://www.telusmobility.com/en/ON/lg_chocolate_bl40/index.shtml

[MistaChin]

lol yeah yeah first gen. I'm old school. But if I tape it to my ipod touch it'll look like I have an iphone though. Phone ricer!

[SilentJay]

Phone ricer = way back in the brick nokia days, when people paid to replace their antennae with blinking LEDs, attached gaudy sound-makers, and used transparent cases. Kind of like altezzas for the phone world.

[KVS17]

Phone ricer = way back in the brick nokia days, when people paid to replace their antennae with blinking LEDs, attached gaudy sound-makers, and used transparent cases. Kind of like altezzas for the phone world.
haha omg i remember those transparent cases

[MistaChin]

Phone ricer = way back in the brick nokia days, when people paid to replace their antennae with blinking LEDs, attached gaudy sound-makers, and used transparent cases. Kind of like altezzas for the phone world.

omg I totally remember that. I stayed away from replacing it with the flashing LED antenna just because I couldn't use it without attracting "thugs" to steal the phone. I don't understand, it's like asking to be robbed. I love scarborough.

[Darkfrosty7]

yea, and with $199 for the 16gb and $299 for the 32gb.... what a deal.

[Shizuka_Osamu]

Phone ricer = way back in the brick nokia days, when people paid to replace their antennae with blinking LEDs, attached gaudy sound-makers, and used transparent cases. Kind of like altezzas for the phone world.

hahaha... that's awesome. Nokia phones back in the day....

http://darlamack.blogs.com/darlamack/images/2007/11/10/nokia_collage.jpg

[MistaChin]

^^^^^^^^^

1987 had the Zack Morris phone!

[SilentJay]

Anyhoo, i'm dumping telus for a $30/6GB plan, so I can get in on some iphone goodness.

[MistaChin]

Rogers brought back the $30/6gb plan?

[optiklenz13]

Anyhoo, i'm dumping telus for a $30/6GB plan, so I can get in on some iphone goodness.

Bahahaha!!!

[SilentJay]

Rogers brought back the $30/6gb plan?

nah, just taking over someone's account.

[starscream]

Group Buy!

LOL I'll be getting this. Nice upgrade from my 3G iPhone. I still got the 6gb/30buck plan, however I dont tether the phone and when I even TRY to waste my usage I can push MAX 1.2-1.5gb a month do maybe I'll swap up to a cheaper data plan when this comes out if they try to gay me....however something tells me that I'll want to stay on the 6gb given the new phone, new things to do on the net...HD Porn? wait...what? LOL

[SilentJay]

:P My only worry is that Rogers will do something stupid like make it so that the 6GB plan won't work on the iphone 4... I know you can cut the regular sized sims to get into a micro-sim slot, but if they exclude service to only micro-sim numbers, we're kinda screwed.

[yearoftherat]

We'll have to wait and see what Rogers will offer existing customers..either way they will own our ass big time. I heard Telus and Bell are also getting the phone too.

[silvermist99]

i'll get it when it can be jailbroken :D

the big 3 carriers will be getting the phone.

since this is UTMS compatible, will WIND be getting it too?

[Fobio]

i'll get it when it can be jailbroken :D



http://gizmodo.com/5558277/ios-4-jailbroken-within-a-day-of-first-release

[MAZDA Kitten]

I'm glad I stick to my 3G and waited for this, will be getting one for sure. Love the increase in battery capacity and the multitasking process.

I'm in the same boat as you

And my jailbroken 3G has been sooo slow latley. I really "need" a new iPhone :D

[MAZDA Kitten]

Phone ricer = way back in the brick nokia days, when people paid to replace their antennae with blinking LEDs, attached gaudy sound-makers, and used transparent cases. Kind of like altezzas for the phone world.

Guilty!!!!!!!!!!!! LOL OMG so trueeee.. and I even had a blinking LED keypad

[chinsterr]

Me wants ... badddddddd.

Picked up an ipad. I like it a lot more than I initially thought I would. Who doesn't like surfing the net while on the can ?

[Turok]

Those commercials are so lame.. god apple marketing is such a bunch of bs

[KVS17]

Me wants ... badddddddd.

Picked up an ipad. I like it a lot more than I initially thought I would. Who doesn't like surfing the net while on the can ?

goodluck trying to sell that here if you do LOL

[tmpz]

Me wants ... badddddddd.

Picked up an ipad. I like it a lot more than I initially thought I would. Who doesn't like surfing the net while on the can ?

At least it's harder for it to fall in the toilet... :chuckle

[laksman91]

At least it's harder for it to fall in the toilet... :chuckle

Sounds like you speak from experience lol

[chinsterr]

goodluck trying to sell that here if you do LOL

Going to keep it. I would never sell this toy

[Gizzmo_jr]

Android on iphone project. He's already done proof of concept for the 2G, and is working on the 3G. I'd keep my old one around for something useful eventually.

[TokyoKiller]

Going to keep it. I would never sell this toy

Come back a year from now and say that when the new iPad is revealed :D.

[Fobio]

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/technology/globe-on-technology/apple-to-offer-unlocked-iphones-in-canada/article1604791/


Tuesday, June 15, 2010 11:47 AM

Apple to offer unlocked iPhones in Canada
Iain Marlow

Canada may be getting the iPhone 4 weeks after it launches in the United States, but we appear to be getting something that’s unavailable to U.S. consumers – unlocked iPhones.

Until now, if you bought an iPhone here you had to choose a Canadian wireless provider at the time of purchase. Carriers offer reduced pricing for handsets but in exchange require purchasers to sign a long-term contract. Regardless, consumers were locked in – you could not simply move to a new carrier, even after your contract expired, without jailbreaking the phone.

According to Apple’s Canadian website, you can now buy an iPhone at full-price from their online store, and sign up with whichever provider you wish.

And ... wait for it ... change your provider any time you like.

This changes the game.

In the U.S., AT&T has an exclusive deal with Apple. Anyone south of the border who wants an iPhone has to use it on AT&T’s network, a company that's had its share of network problems and recently eliminated its unlimited data plans.

But a glimpse on Apple's Canadian website (thanks Boy Genius Report) notes the company is selling its current 8GB 3Gs model ($549) and will sell its new iPhone 4 unlocked.

“When you purchase your iPhone from the Apple Online Store, you’ll get it commitment-free,” the site reads. “So you can sign up for service with the carrier of your choice and change your carrier at any time.”

This tactic, which Google and HTC tried with the much-hyped Nexus One, is often viewed as a way for influential handset makers to cut carriers out of the equation. Carriers like to offer handsets through their retail chains, enticing people in with fancy gadgets and signing them up for a long-term contract. Google made an effort at disintermediation, but ended up back-tracking when online sales disappointed.

It's not terribly surprising that Apple is attempting this, since the company often extracts concessions from carriers (and is often viewed as a bully by the wireless provider community).

Of course, iPhone exclusivity is already non-existent in Canada: All three major carriers (Rogers, Bell and Telus) currently offer service for the phone. And all three of the carriers have said they will offer the iPhone 4. So it makes sense to sell the phone unlocked to Canadians, empowering consumers to shop the device around to wherever they'll get the best service (though most data pricing among the Big Three is similar, anyway).

[JashiK]

Me wants ... badddddddd.

Picked up an ipad. I like it a lot more than I initially thought I would. Who doesn't like surfing the net while on the can ?

I work in Insurance and a couple of days ago I got a call from a mother wanting to open up a claim because she bought her daughter an ipad and she dropped it in the toilet. BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

[yearoftherat]

Apple Canada has the details of the unlocked iPhone:

http://store.apple.com/ca/browse/home/shop_iphone/family/iphone?mco=OTY2ODA2OQ

[M3-ZOOM]

guess its time to get a hardware upgrade at rogers!

[CoolColombian]

What Apple should do is try to get the service providers in to allow costumers to share their data plans between the iphone and the ipad, i.e. I wouldn't mind to stay locked to a service provider if I can use my 6GB of data a month for my phone and the ipad, this can also persuade customers to buy the 3g iPad which is the most expensive and can generate more revenue.

[cwp_sedan]

Damn, that will be way too expensive to buy an unlocked phone through Apple. I would rather just be locked in on my current plan for another 3 years with a hardware upgrade cost. We'll have to see...

[Gizzmo_jr]

HUP, HUP and away to the Rogers store

[yearoftherat]

What Apple should do is try to get the service providers in to allow costumers to share their data plans between the iphone and the ipad, i.e. I wouldn't mind to stay locked to a service provider if I can use my 6GB of data a month for my phone and the ipad, this can also persuade customers to buy the 3g iPad which is the most expensive and can generate more revenue.

That would be nice but we know that Robbers will never change their smartphone data plans to include the iPad....bastards...

[SilentJay]

Cut your SIM into a mini-sim!

[TheMaterial]

What Apple should do is try to get the service providers in to allow costumers to share their data plans between the iphone and the ipad, i.e. I wouldn't mind to stay locked to a service provider if I can use my 6GB of data a month for my phone and the ipad, this can also persuade customers to buy the 3g iPad which is the most expensive and can generate more revenue.

This would be smart, and would probably sell a few more Ipads. But the people that I know that own both just tethered there phones to the ipads to share data.

[bman13]

Jailbroken iOS 4 will allow you to tether to your IPad so...if you're a jailbreakin...no issues for u in the future.

[CoolColombian]

Yup, thats the way I'm heading, with my iPhone jailbroken and 6GB of data a month. ;)

[laksman91]

only downside to the tethering is that the iPhone battery life in general is going to blow.

[Iceman_F1]

Looks like I'll make good use of my hardware upgrade...

[bluntman]

How does the (Rogers) HUP work? I will have had my iPhone for one year by July this year.

[laksman91]

How does the (Rogers) HUP work? I will have had my iPhone for one year by July this year.

They had an option last year where you add a year to your contract (after one year of your 3 has expired) and you could go from 3G to 3GS

[TokyoKiller]

How does the (Rogers) HUP work? I will have had my iPhone for one year by July this year.

Depends on how Rogers does it this year it may pan out for you or not.

When the iPhone launched in July 2008, Rogers made an exception for all customers who upgraded 3 months prior to upgrade to the iPhone assuming they add a data plan. Then in 2009, when the 3GS launched, Rogers made an exception again but only to those who purchased the iPhone 3G between July and September of 2008.

This year it will be a bit tricky, seeing how 5 carriers have the iPhone. Rogers would be smart to take the hit and offer exceptions for those interested in upgrading instead of switching over to Telus or Bell.

[bluntman]

Thanks guys...keeping my fingers crossed.

[TokyoKiller]

Thanks guys...keeping my fingers crossed.

I just realized I never answered your exact question regarding Rogers HUP's.

Here is an explanation of the current HUP system from Rogers internal notes:



Effective January 15th2010, Rogers is eliminating Hardware Upgrade Tier fees! As part of the new enhancements customers will benefit from being able to upgrade every 24 months at both the 2 and 3 year in market price which will now align with new customer pricing. All customers within a multi-line account will be eligible for 2 and 3 year in market pricing after 24 months since initial activation or last hardware upgrade. And the $35 administration fee will be consistent across all consumer upgrades.

Details:


As a customer’s monthly spend and loyalty accumulates since last upgrade or initial activation, they will have more discounted device options available to them, meaning more device categories (listed below) may become available prior to month 24.

High value customers may have the option to upgrade early (as early as month 12) to a discounted or promotional offer based on the customers monthly spend and time since last upgrade or initial activation.


HUP eligibility will be enhanced to include 5 new device categories the customer is upgrading to:

Category I: Voice (classic phones)

Category II: Quick Messaging Devices (QMD)

Category III : Blackberry

Category IV: Other Smartphones (Android, Windows Mobile etc.)

Category V: iPhone

This is of course under normal circumstances. We should find out soon if any exceptions will be made on the iPhone.

[Gizzmo_jr]

www.howardforums.com/forumdisplay.php/431-iPhone-on-Fido-Rogers-Discussion

Some decent new info starting to trickle in

[bluntman]

Even if I am not eligible for a HUP, at least I get a government (small) discount at Apple (either in store or on line)...it's still going to be expensive though!

[SilentJay]

It'd be well out of reach for me if I had to buy it outright...

[bman13]

It will prob be delayed in Canada so no need to get too excited yet. Due to high volume of sales south of border and Canada usually being looked at as after thought, it is almost to the point where it will be confirmed as was the same case as the IPad.

[cwp_sedan]

It will prob be delayed in Canada so no need to get too excited yet. Due to high volume of sales south of border and Canada usually being looked at as after thought, it is almost to the point where it will be confirmed as was the same case as the IPad.

I think it's coming in July.

[bman13]

I think it's coming in July.

On apple.ca it changed from "Coming in July" to "Coming soon" ;) Same thing happened with IPad and same result, delay...

[KVS17]

a friend of mine told me there was something like 600,000 pre orders in the first day, i would not be surprised if it got delayed

[SilentJay]

On apple.ca it changed from "Coming in July" to "Coming soon" ;) Same thing happened with IPad and same result, delay...


A lot of speculation about that - Engadget claims thats the case, but people have been posting up screenshots from as far back as 3 weeks ago all showing "coming soon".

[cwp_sedan]

A lot of speculation about that - Engadget claims thats the case, but people have been posting up screenshots from as far back as 3 weeks ago all showing "coming soon".

+1. I honestly can't remember myself.

[yearoftherat]

iOS4 is out ...anyone wanna try it out?

http://img707.imageshack.us/img707/9947/screenshot20100621at132.png (http://img707.imageshack.us/i/screenshot20100621at132.png/)

[bluntman]

That's today? I completely forgot.

I'll sync up when I get home.

[cwp_sedan]

Going to try it now if I can get it to update on my work computer. :)

[yearoftherat]

Downloading it now but will wait til it is tweaked :chuckle

[cwp_sedan]

Bah! Can't do it because it needs to erase everything. So much for that. Guess I'll be doing it at home too.

[tmpz]

Waiting for JB final

[yearoftherat]

You guys can always wait til Apple release the unlocked version of iOs4...

[KVS17]

apparently Pmall is going to be selling the new iphone for around 800-900, at that price you might as well buy it unlocked on the website..

[yearoftherat]

apparently Pmall is going to be selling the new iphone for around 800-900, at that price you might as well buy it unlocked on the website..

Thats Pmail for ya...

[cwp_sedan]

Bah! Apple server is overloaded. Taking so long to just get software update to run... :bang

[-cj-]

I doubt it'll be $800-900... That's what it costs to get it imported from England (not counting duties). It'll be over $1000 for sure.

A friend of a friend says that they're saying mid-August for Canadian release now....... But take that with a grain of salt....

[Unoriginalusername]

if you're jailbroken and install this does it just go back to factory or does something bad happen

[tmpz]

if you're jailbroken and install this does it just go back to factory or does something bad happen

Yes, you have to re-jailbreak it

[Unoriginalusername]

Yes, you have to re-jailbreak it

but it will work fine minus the apps that were for JB only?

[yearoftherat]

Do you have a 3G or 3GS ? If you have a 3G you will have to use redsnow 09b-5 - to jail break iOs4. If you have a 3GS there is a new pwnage tool that was just released. From what I've read b/c it is a new OS, most people do a full restore and start from scratch.

[Unoriginalusername]

Do you have a 3G or 3GS ? If you have a 3G you will have to use redsnow 09b-5 - to jail break iOs4. If you have a 3GS there is a new pwnage tool that was just released. From what I've read b/c it is a new OS, most people do a full restore and start from scratch.

3g 3.1.3 jb'd w/pwnage tool on a mac. on a pc now on business and tempted to try out os4 i just don't want to brick it by upgrading

[yearoftherat]

Eeewww Windows....

Ryan aka:CWP_Sedan update on his 3G and he found it sluggish. AFAIK, I thought there wasn't a windows version of redsnow or pwnage that will JB iOS4.

[tmpz]

3g 3.1.3 jb'd w/pwnage tool on a mac. on a pc now on business and tempted to try out os4 i just don't want to brick it by upgrading

You have re-install you apps. Just remember to backup before proceeding.

See:
Mac: http://iclarified.com/entry/index.php?enid=10228
Win: http://www.iclarified.com/entry/index.php?enid=10188

I don't recommend upgrading yet. Some Cydia apps don't work. I'm having an issue accessing Settings > General, it crashes and brings me back to Springboard. I've concluded that after restoring your backup, something messes up. I was able to access it right after jailbreaking it, but not after restoring a backup.

YOTR, see link above.

[Turok]

Actually a lot of Cydia apps don't work.. winterboard and a lot of others... you can upgrade but just don't expect to have everything all fancy and addons working.

Right now the only addon mod I'm running is fontswap for the lockscreen clock and notes fonts. Oh and I"m also running memtool which works fine.

I did a full restore with 3.1.2. If you hold Shift-Restore you can select your fw and I just did a full restore to 3.1.2, then upgraded to the final 4.0 which came out the other day, this is not the GM firmware release.. this the official final.. the GM fw is 316MB and the final official release is 342MB

Works fine for me so far.

[SilentJay]

They're posting up screen stress tests on engadget - the screens apparently aren't THAT strong, while there are a few issues cropping up with the screen pannel itself, and calls dropping if held left-handed.

[Gizzmo_jr]

They're posting up screen stress tests on engadget - the screens apparently aren't THAT strong, while there are a few issues cropping up with the screen pannel itself, and calls dropping if held left-handed.
link?

http://www.torontomazda3.ca/forum/showthread.php?45269-iPhone-iPod-iOS4 for iOS4 discussions on older hardware

[SilentJay]

link?

Screen Yellowing (http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/24/iphone-4s-yellow-spot-issue-goes-away-with-a-bit-of-time/)

Left handed dropped calls (http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/24/some-iphone-4-models-see-signals-drop-to-0-when-held-left-handed/)

Drop testing screen (http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/24/iphone-4-drop-test-yields-results-video/)

[SilentJay]

Even more grim news... iPhone antenna/reception issue is brushed off as a "non issue" by Steve Jobs... Apple's official position is for people to "not hold the phone near the bottom left corner"


Wow... Neglectful (http://www.pcworld.com/article/199853/apple_responds_to_iphone_4_antenna_problem.html?tk =hp_pop)

[Turok]

Ya I love how they say it's how you hold the phone and that any phone that is "gripped" will have a degraded signal.. that's to funny.

They facked up.. maybe they should have done a bit more QA on it.

[Iceman_F1]

Even more grim news... iPhone antenna/reception issue is brushed off as a "non issue" by Steve Jobs... Apple's official position is for people to "not hold the phone near the bottom left corner"


Wow... Neglectful (http://www.pcworld.com/article/199853/apple_responds_to_iphone_4_antenna_problem.html?tk =hp_pop)

To be fair, that really is a non-issue in my books. Unless EVERYONE holds their phone like that then they can't please everyone. Everyone is going to have complaints and no one can design a 100% perfect device. Someone is ALWAYS going to find something to complain about. They probably designed it, saw it as a possible problem, but the fact that it only happens when you hold it like that with your bare palm in that exact spot means that it's pretty minimal. Put a case on it, no issue. Hold it with that hand but don't put your palm there, no issue. Added to the fact that not every one has that problem as reported by your link before that which stated...


Our second UK-purchased iPhone 4 was fine, showing none of these handling symptoms

As a programmer, I'd respond the EXACT same way. We can't design something to be 100% foolproof that works 100% of the time no matter what a user does. If they find a way to break it or get it to act weird that really only affects a small percentage of the people where you can't replicate it on every single unit but you have the option to do the same thing a different way, then do it that different way and stop complaining! Basically, in our programs, unless it can be replicated 80% of the time or more, we consider it a non important issue. Specially if they go outside the way we trained and are being stubborn about it as then it's a user error as they are going outside how it was designed.

[SilentJay]

^^^ Holding the phone in a certain way kind of excludes a fair number of people... If it were something like "the iphone won't work under water while being attacked by a giant squid", then yeah - it's reasonable to expect that. But forbidding certain hand contact and or orientation on a product that requires hand interaction is terrible.

[optiklenz13]

^dont' get the Iphone, period!!! :chuckle

[SilentJay]

^dont' get the Iphone, period!!! :chuckle

:getout

[Iceman_F1]

^^^ Holding the phone in a certain way kind of excludes a fair number of people... If it were something like "the iphone won't work under water while being attacked by a giant squid", then yeah - it's reasonable to expect that. But forbidding certain hand contact and or orientation on a product that requires hand interaction is terrible.

But the point is that it's also not ALL iPhone4's that do that. As illustrated by a quote from BOTH your links provided...

http://www.pcworld.com/article/199853/apple_responds_to_iphone_4_antenna_problem.html?tk =hp_pop (This was in a users comment)

This is a nonissue with my new iphone 4. First thing I did was completely cover each corner while on a call and had absolutely no reduction in signal strength at all. Phone is awesome.

and

http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/24/some-iphone-4-models-see-signals-drop-to-0-when-held-left-handed/ (This was in the actual article)

Bridging the two with a finger tip, however, didn't cause any issues with the reported reception.

...

Our second UK-purchased iPhone 4 was fine, showing none of these handling symptoms.

So the fact you can't replicate it with every phone AND it's only holding it one specific way to me leads to a non-issue. Probably a compromise to address the complaints of the older iPhones signal issues/dropped calls while keeping their design. Basically, I'd rather have this...where I KNOW a way to have dropped calls but the rest is fine compared to not knowing.

[optiklenz13]

:getout

you get out, and stick with your BB.. :chuckle. complaints!!!!

edit: If you get an iPhone, you'll use it not to call people 95% of the time anyways.. I don't have a nice voice plan, rather a nice data plan.

[Iceman_F1]

you get out, and stick with your BB.. :chuckle. complaints!!!!

edit: If you get an iPhone, you'll use it not to call people 95% of the time anyways.. I don't have a nice voice plan, rather a nice data plan.

+1 to the bolded part. That's for sure a vast majority.

[SilentJay]

:P I moved over to Rogers to get my hands on the 6GB plan

[-cj-]

My iPhone 4 arrived like an hour ago. =) Getting it restored right now. I haven't had a chance to test the reception issue or the yellow screen tho... Keeping my fingers crossed that I don't have that problem.

[SilentJay]

O.o You had one shipped over?

[-cj-]

Yeah, got it imported from UK... Know someone who lives there.

[SilentJay]

^^ :) Well done. Unlocked straight from Apple right?

[-cj-]

Yup! It's my second unlocked iPhone... Love being able to swap sims anywhere I travel to. =)

[SilentJay]

Point of curiosity, how much did it cost ya?

[-cj-]

599GBP + 63 GBP overnight shipping. Paid actual cost. You can buy the Rogers $299 iPhone when it comes out and turn around and sell it for $700-850+ and make most of that back. =)

[Darkfrosty7]

!!!!! gotta come to a meet! i wanna see this thing... cj

[-cj-]

I might be at Sigma track event this weekend if you wanna join. Depends on if it rains or not.

[Darkfrosty7]

which day?

[-cj-]

This Sunday

[TokyoKiller]

I am gonna hold off until they figure out this whole reception issue. Please chime in cj on this issue.

[-cj-]

Been having trouble reproducing the reception issue. I managed to do something with a weird positioning of my fingers that got the reception to drop two bars after 3-5 minutes of holding it a specific way (based on Internet videos). It didn't do anything tho. All my iphones have done this in some way or another. If you put a death grip on your 3GS it'll drop some bars too, esp wifi.

Maybe it's worse in the US? Their 3G freq is higher and has less penetration (giggity) then our 850mhz.

As for yellow screen, don't have that issue. The screen is absolutely amazing though....

[TokyoKiller]

Been having trouble reproducing the reception issue. I managed to do something with a weird positioning of my fingers that got the reception to drop two bars after 3-5 minutes of holding it a specific way (based on Internet videos). It didn't do anything tho. All my iphones have done this in some way or another. If you put a death grip on your 3GS it'll drop some bars too, esp wifi.

Maybe it's worse in the US? Their 3G freq is higher and has less penetration (giggity) then our 850mhz.

As for yellow screen, don't have that issue. The screen is absolutely amazing though....

You raise a good point. AT&T is notoriously known for their horrible network, so that could be why things aren't looking good at the moment.

Maybe Apple should've launched it in countries that have decent networks first

[-cj-]

LOL That's a good point. I mean, as much as I hate Rogers, the network is excellent. Plus Bell and Telus just deployed a massive network that I'm sure has very few people on it.

[TokyoKiller]

Ahh I hope they don't delay the Canadian release because of this...I really want to try it out lol.

[-cj-]

I heard it was delayed until August, but who knows. I definitely wouldn't be surprised.

[yearoftherat]

Looks like Apple is going to hold a press conference regarding the problems of the iPhone 4:

http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/14/apple-to-hold-press-conference-on-iphone-4-this-friday/

[bman13]

Looks like Apple is going to hold a press conference regarding the problems of the iPhone 4:

http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/14/apple-to-hold-press-conference-on-iphone-4-this-friday/

death grip/antenna gate will finally be addressed but NOT VIA RECALL

The Wall Street Journal reports that Apple is not planning on issuing an iPhone 4 recall at tomorrow's press conference.

Apple's iPhone 4 has been dogged by reports of antenna-reception problems since its launch last month. The company has called a news conference to discuss the issue Friday. Apple doesn't plan to recall the phone, a person familar with the matter said.
Apple engineers were apparently aware of the risks associated with the external antenna design but "Mr. Jobs liked the design so much that Apple went ahead with its development". Earlier today, a Bloomberg article similarly claimed an Apple engineer expressed concern about the design.

The iPhone 4 signal issue has exploded in the media in recent days even with New York senator Charles Schumer publishing an open letter to Steve Jobs expressing concerns about the issue. Schumer is known for his efforts in consumer protection.

Apple is holding a press conference tomorrow to address the issue.

[KVS17]

I read that Apple might give out Bumpers to each person that bought the new iPhone to reduce touching the antennae with their hands lol

[TokyoKiller]

Big big mess Apple has dropped itself into...

[SilentJay]

:chuckle Attach gaudy rubber band around $800 phone, and presto!

[melissa]

I think a recall should be their solution, and not some bumper piece add-on. This fix doesn't even address the other issue(s) with the phone. Apple just lost a little respect in my books :sad

[bman13]

I think a recall should be their solution, and not some bumper piece add-on. This fix doesn't even address the other issue(s) with the phone. Apple just lost a little respect in my books :sad

The thing is...there will NOT be a recall after all which seemed like literally the ONLY option. Should be interesting.

[hatthi]

I was told by an Apple channel rep that it should be in stores by the end of next week. But who knows now. We'll have to see what they say tomorrow.


Ahh I hope they don't delay the Canadian release because of this...I really want to try it out lol.

[Unoriginalusername]

I think a recall should be their solution, and not some bumper piece add-on. This fix doesn't even address the other issue(s) with the phone. Apple just lost a little respect in my books :sad

I am having a hard time telling how much is a true problem or a bunch of people getting caught up in the noise. Two people are in on the law suit thus far which has been generating a lot of the press, would be interesting to know if this is something a few people are being very vocal about and there are millions of happy customers or if almost everyone is having a problem

[yearoftherat]

A law suit ??? ...WTF and good luck...

[Unoriginalusername]

A law suit ??? ...WTF and good luck...
just saw this the other day, link - http://gizmodo.com/5577010/first-iphone-4-class-action-suit-filed-against-apple-and-att agree its stupid

[SilentJay]

The bumper solution is kind of disappointing, so lets hope Apple will do more than just that!

[KVS17]

Press conference
http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/live-from-apples-iphone-4-press-conference/?sort=newest&refresh=60

[Gizzmo_jr]

Press conference
http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/live-from-apples-iphone-4-press-conference/?sort=newest&refresh=60

thanks

[KVS17]

boom lol
10:30AM "A free case for every iPhone 4 buyer. If you got one, we'll give you a refund."

[bluntman]

The question now is: will you still buy an iPhone 4 at the end of the month?

I'm undecided right now.

[Iceman_F1]

I'll get it yes.

[starscream]

Yeppers! Its on my list...just interested to see what Rogers does with their price point.

[bluntman]

Alright, who am I kidding...I'll probably get one too, but unlocked.

[Turok]

Alright, who am I kidding...I'll probably get one too, but unlocked.

I was going to get one but now I'm undecided and if I did get one.. it would definitely be unlocked and hopefully a full un-tethered hack out by then. The bumper solution seems like the easy way out for Apple and it probably won't fix the problem.

Recall seems unlikely at this point..but you never know. I might hold off for another year and maybe the Iphone 4-4G or 5G lol will be out.

[Burner]

The question now is: will you still buy an iPhone 4 at the end of the month?

I'm undecided right now.

I was seriously considering it, but now that I've done more research I'm really interested in an android phone. Right now it's between the HTC Desire or the Samsung Vibrant if i go that route.

[stevenma188]

I have a HTC Legend, and I really like Legend. I just feel it is more versatile compared to the Apple OS4.

[SilentJay]

Leaning towards it, but Droid2 is looking pretty good - - either way, i'll still keep my crackberry to switch back and forth for bbm.

[aris]

I just got ****ed over by rogers wireless. I got a gift card from my brother for my birthday to get the new iphone4 and it turns out you can not use the gift card for upgrades...now i got a $250 gift card that i can't even use

[MistaChin]

So friday's the day. I might just pick one up. My contract is up so time for a new phone. The zagg invisibleshield supposedly fixes the antenna thing. I was planning to put one on anyway

[Iceman_F1]

If I could order it online properly I'll probably get one. Don't have time to try and get one in store. But so far not looking too likely to get it early on.

[TokyoKiller]

Yeppers! Its on my list...just interested to see what Rogers does with their price point.

Price will be standard across all carriers as usual with all iPhone releases nationally and internationally. The only thing to watch out for is any special data promotions which will be definitive now that Bell is introducing a $30/6GB data, which would force Rogers to re-introduce theirs. Also, rumor has it Rogers will be allowing anyone who has not upgraded or activated prior to June 7, 2010 will be eligible for some sort of upgrade credit on the iPhone 4.

I am waiting on my sources to get the up to date skim for the upgrade policy.

[optiklenz13]

I'm too excited.. Now I can film pron in HD..

oopppsss.. my bad it slipped..

[TokyoKiller]

Oh I forgot to mention, I'll have one on hold for me on launch date either way. Muhahahaha.

[Iceman_F1]

Oh I forgot to mention, I'll have one on hold for me on launch date either way. Muhahahaha.

:flaming

[TokyoKiller]

:flaming

Well, after two years of working in wireless I gotta have at least one connection =P.

[Iceman_F1]

Well, after two years of working in wireless I gotta have at least one connection =P.

True. I'm guessing with Rogers? Sadly, Bell's pretty annoying with upgrading phones online...and I never have time to go in store :S So by the time I get around to having time, likely will have been out for awhile but not sure I can wait that long as I'm really hating my phone...

[TokyoKiller]

True. I'm guessing with Rogers? Sadly, Bell's pretty annoying with upgrading phones online...and I never have time to go in store :S So by the time I get around to having time, likely will have been out for awhile but not sure I can wait that long as I'm really hating my phone...

Actually, a multi-carrier dealer.

What phone do you currently have?

[yearoftherat]

Price will be standard across all carriers as usual with all iPhone releases nationally and internationally. The only thing to watch out for is any special data promotions which will be definitive now that Bell is introducing a $30/6GB data, which would force Rogers to re-introduce theirs. Also, rumor has it Rogers will be allowing anyone who has not upgraded or activated prior to June 7, 2010 will be eligible for some sort of upgrade credit on the iPhone 4.

I am waiting on my sources to get the up to date skim for the upgrade policy.


I'm sure the upgrade credit will be interesting... Knowing Robbers they will give next to squat for a credit.

[Iceman_F1]

Actually, a multi-carrier dealer.

What phone do you currently have?

Blackberry 8830. Not a BAD phone...just I'm getting tired of it and want a full touch screen phone. Looked at Android phones but keep coming back to the iPhone.

[TokyoKiller]

Blackberry 8830. Not a BAD phone...just I'm getting tired of it and want a full touch screen phone. Looked at Android phones but keep coming back to the iPhone.

Take my word for it, working 2 years in wireless and going through 2 iPhone releases, the BlackBerry Storm, and several Android devices (Including the Xperia X10). Nothing "just works" like the iPhones.

I currently have a BlackBerry 9700, 9000 and an iPhone 3G, and had a 3GS (sold it). The iPhone 3G is slow-as-fack but it still impresses me more than any of the BlackBerry-duo's I own.

And I am speaking from a consumer stand point with technical support, quality and functionality. Its worth the wait if you have to wait.

[TokyoKiller]

I'm sure the upgrade credit will be interesting... Knowing Robbers they will give next to squat for a credit.

You'd be surprised what Rogers would do to prevent the competition from getting their subscribers, even if its at a loss. I've seen it first hand...lol.

[aris]

You'd be surprised what Rogers would do to prevent the competition from getting their subscribers, even if its at a loss. I've seen it first hand...lol.

Hmmm..Rogers is no help to me.

I'm debating if i should cancel with them

[Iceman_F1]

Take my word for it, working 2 years in wireless and going through 2 iPhone releases, the BlackBerry Storm, and several Android devices (Including the Xperia X10). Nothing "just works" like the iPhones.

I currently have a BlackBerry 9700, 9000 and an iPhone 3G, and had a 3GS (sold it). The iPhone 3G is slow-as-fack but it still impresses me more than any of the BlackBerry-duo's I own.

And I am speaking from a consumer stand point with technical support, quality and functionality. Its worth the wait if you have to wait.

I've waited this long to get an iPhone. It's not the wait really. It's more the fact that I'd rather not go in store if I can avoid it (avoid it because I don't like to and not a lot of time to). But none of the companies seem to make it easy to do stuff online. I guess they just want people in the store :S

[TokyoKiller]

Hmmm..Rogers is no help to me.

I'm debating if i should cancel with them

I always said this to customers that wanted to leave Rogers.

"Go ahead."

In the end, I know they'll come back. As a multi-dealer (dealing for Bell, Fido, Solo, Rogers and Virgin). And I have a few buddies at Telus, Rogers is the most lenient of all. All you gotta know is how to talk them through what you want without any yelling or anger of course.

=P

[aris]

I always said this to customers that wanted to leave Rogers.

"Go ahead."

In the end, I know they'll come back. As a multi-dealer (dealing for Bell, Fido, Solo, Rogers and Virgin). And I have a few buddies at Telus, Rogers is the most lenient of all. All you gotta know is how to talk them through what you want without any yelling or anger of course.

=P

I don't know what to do..i got a $250 gift card for Rogers but they will not let me use it to get the upgrade

[TokyoKiller]

I don't know what to do..i got a $250 gift card for Rogers but they will not let me use it to get the upgrade

What kind of gift-card is it? Rogers Plus? If so, it cannot be used since Rogers bills all hardware upgrades to your monthly bill.

[MistaChin]

I don't know what to do..i got a $250 gift card for Rogers but they will not let me use it to get the upgrade

Use it for your phone bills and use the money you saved to buy the phone. Works out to the same thing.

[aris]

Use it for your phone bills and use the money you saved to buy the phone. Works out to the same thing.

You can not use a gift card to pay bills.

[aris]

What kind of gift-card is it? Rogers Plus? If so, it cannot be used since Rogers bills all hardware upgrades to your monthly bill.

Ya i just found out this out today:(

[TokyoKiller]

Use it for your phone bills and use the money you saved to buy the phone. Works out to the same thing.

Paying for your hardware upgrade is the same thing as paying for your bills since Rogers bills you on your invoice for your hardware.

[TokyoKiller]

Ya i just found out this out today:(

It sucks, I've had many customers get angry about this. Unfortunately, Rogers Plus is a retail only division hence the limitation. I'd either try to get the GC refunded with a good excuse or sell it at a loss online.

Unless you plan on buying a digital box or something of that sort soon.

[MistaChin]

then wtf is the point of a gift card? Rogers blows.

might as well say "sorry, the gift cards can only be used towards phone cases"

[optiklenz13]

you can use the gift card to install lamin-x on your fogs..

[MistaChin]

you can use the gift card to install lamin-x on your fogs..

lmao well worth the $250

[KVS17]

Hey guys, not sure if anyone has seen this yet. But this is pretty cool
http://mobilesyrup.com/2010/07/27/bell-putting-6gb-30month-data-plan-on-the-table-for-the-iphone-4/

[Nextmod]

I will probably get it anyways, the way I hold the phone wont be a problem

[optiklenz13]

you hold it like this.

http://pics.blameitonthevoices.com/072010/how_to_properly_hold_the_iphone_4.jpg

[mzkaye729]

I will probably get it anyways, the way I hold the phone wont be a problem

+1. I always use a bluetooth headset anyway.

[leems]

you hold it like this.

http://pics.blameitonthevoices.com/072010/how_to_properly_hold_the_iphone_4.jpg


LOL CLASSIC ....

[SilentJay]

So who's actually going out Friday to grab one?

[MistaChin]

So who's actually going out Friday to grab one?

If my deal with Telus goes through then I'll just order mine over the phone. I can wait some days.

[Iceman_F1]

So who's actually going out Friday to grab one?

If I had the time to spare I would have...but I don't. Will try to order one for shipping or something. I can wait a bit to get it if I don't have to deal with lines in stores...

[bluntman]

The Apple Store at Yorkdale says that they will be available at 7am this Friday.

Hmm....

[optiklenz13]

oh shit, is it a coincidence that I am off on Friday?

so CONVOLUTED!!!

[tmpz]

oh shit, is it a coincidence that I am off on Friday?

so CONVOLUTED!!!

You should be off this week and in line at the Apple store right now! :chuckle

[optiklenz13]

^I've got that part covered already. :chuckle

[Darkfrosty7]

So who's actually going out Friday to grab one?

i want to... if your down lol

[chinsterr]

Oh yeah ? Bell to offer 6gb for $30 ? Don't see it on their website yet.

Might as well pay the $5 extra and get 5.5gb more !


Price will be standard across all carriers as usual with all iPhone releases nationally and internationally. The only thing to watch out for is any special data promotions which will be definitive now that Bell is introducing a $30/6GB data, which would force Rogers to re-introduce theirs. Also, rumor has it Rogers will be allowing anyone who has not upgraded or activated prior to June 7, 2010 will be eligible for some sort of upgrade credit on the iPhone 4.

I am waiting on my sources to get the up to date skim for the upgrade policy.

[laksman91]

I'll be grabbing it this friday! I lost my 3GS and am using this stupid HTC Magic that I hate so much.

[KVS17]

Does anyone know if its possible to link contacts with Facebook to get info and pictures? I know its done on BB, but can't find it on the iPhone..

[optiklenz13]

go to your FB app, to your friend's list and then click sync.. tadaaa!!!

[TokyoKiller]

As far as I remember, the Facebook App had the feature added within the past year.

[SilentJay]

Sooo... tokyo... You seem to be in the know... Will you have access to a stash of iphones? :D

[optiklenz13]

iPhone4 meet at the back warehouse..

[TokyoKiller]

Well. Stock hasn't arrived for any of the carriers to my source.

[KVS17]

go to your FB app, to your friend's list and then click sync.. tadaaa!!!
yessss, thanks man! now i dont have to go creeping and take paparatzi pics of my friends lol

[SilentJay]

Well. Stock hasn't arrived for any of the carriers to my source.

Perhaps you could give me a quick heads up when they do arrive? :) I have a shiny toonie in it for ya!

[aris]

So who's actually going out Friday to grab one?

I am..


It sucks, I've had many customers get angry about this. Unfortunately, Rogers Plus is a retail only division hence the limitation. I'd either try to get the GC refunded with a good excuse or sell it at a loss online.

Unless you plan on buying a digital box or something of that sort soon.
The Rogers store my brother got it from took care of it since one of their employees told my brother it can be done



then wtf is the point of a gift card? Rogers blows.

might as well say "sorry, the gift cards can only be used towards phone cases"

Ya man..but at least they fixed the problem


you can use the gift card to install lamin-x on your fogs..



hahaha

[-RJ3-]

So i assume its 60/40 who will buy one regardless of the bugs that have not been sorted out by the latest update?

Im torn to upgrade my hardware or wait till the bugs have been sorted out..

[Mr Fatty]

I' on the fence about getting one. I don't really want to lose bbm...

[SilentJay]

I sincerely doubt the bugs will be worked out on this hardware cycle - you'd have to wait till the next generation comes along.

If they make a hardware change, it'd be like admitting that they were wrong... And we all know how well Apple does that.

Think about it this way. Sign a 3-year, grab the iphone, and by next year/next gen, renew your 3-year to get the new revision.

[TokyoKiller]

FML. Rogers is taking their sweet ass time to announce whether they are making exceptions or not.

[SilentJay]

^^ Early HUP?

[TokyoKiller]

^^ Early HUP?

Yes. I did a HUP in November to a BB9700, and I hate it with the out most regret. POS phone, been through 5 of them and now I just don't use it at all. Using a BB9000 instead which is also a POS but is a lot more stable and solid than the 9700. I miss my 3GS so much...never gave me hassle.

[aris]

FML. Rogers is taking their sweet ass time to announce whether they are making exceptions or not.

Exceptions for what???

[SilentJay]

Early HUP.

[aris]

Early HUP.

What is "HUP" ???

[yearoftherat]

Hardware
Upgrade
Program (?)

[mazdabetty]

Think about it this way. Sign a 3-year, grab the iphone, and by next year/next gen, renew your 3-year to get the new revision.

How does renewing work exactly? So it's roughly $299 with a 3 year contract, so in 1 year if I want the next gen, I have to pay another $299 for a new phone and sign another 3 year contract?

[aris]

Hardware
Upgrade
Program (?)

If that what it means Rogers is offering everyone the upgrade as long as your within 2 months ..that is what i was told by Rogers

[Iceman_F1]

Woo! Just finished working out a deal with company contact for cell phones. Says can probably get me one delivered for Tuesday of next week which will be confirmed tomorrow. Can't wait!

[SilentJay]

^ Yeppers!

The rumored info being passed around is that Rogers will allow anyone who has signed a contract before June 7, 2010 to sign a new contract to get the iphone.

[SilentJay]

Woo! Just finished working out a deal with company contact for cell phones. Says can probably get me one delivered for Tuesday of next week which will be confirmed tomorrow. Can't wait!

Bellus? Rogers?

[yearoftherat]

^ Yeppers!

The rumored info being passed around is that Rogers will allow anyone who has signed a contract before June 7, 2010 to sign a new contract to get the iphone.


So someone that signed a new contract lets say in May and got a 3GS can get a new phone and renew for 3 yrs. I find that hard to believe.

[Iceman_F1]

Bellus? Rogers?

Currently with Bell switching to Telus. I liked Telus' rate plans better than Bell.

[TokyoKiller]

So someone that signed a new contract lets say in May and got a 3GS can get a new phone and renew for 3 yrs. I find that hard to believe.

Well that doesn't mean they'll get it for a full subsidy. It could mean they'll get it for $399 instead of $199. Don't forget Rogers did the same thing when the iPhone 3G was released and allowed EVERYONE who activated/upgraded 3 months prior to the release of the iPhone 3G to pick up and iPhone 3G for $199/$299.

[yearoftherat]

Ok ..that makes sense. I thought/remembered that Rogers didn't allow HUPs to the 3GS unless you were a yr into your contract. I'll wait and see what happens tomorrow.

[SilentJay]

Argh. I left Telus cuz they wouldn't give me 6gb/$30. Bastards are probably going to offer it now.

[Iceman_F1]

Argh. I left Telus cuz they wouldn't give me 6gb/$30. Bastards are probably going to offer it now.

I haven't confirmed price plan I want yet (will tomorrow) but I doubt I'd use 6GB so there's no sense in me getting that plan. Will find out more tomorrow but still had better price options IMO than Bell.

[SilentJay]

^ The rumour is that Bell will be bringing 6gb/$30 to the table.

Don't discount yourself from using that much :) 6gb can quickly evaporate if you tether and stream youtube. Worse yet, i'm grabbing a "rocket stick" from someone, so it'll be going in there too.

[Iceman_F1]

^ The rumour is that Bell will be bringing 6gb/$30 to the table.

Don't discount yourself from using that much :) 6gb can quickly evaporate if you tether and stream youtube. Worse yet, i'm grabbing a "rocket stick" from someone, so it'll be going in there too.

Don't need to tether...and maybe had the urge to used YouTube once on a phone in the last year? And even then it was while in a place with WiFi :chuckle

[cwp_sedan]

The GF needs a new phone and I think I do too so maybe I will give Rogers a call and see what they can do. I definitely need an upgrade from my 3G. :)

[mazda_gurl]

The GF needs a new phone and I think I do too so maybe I will give Rogers a call and see what they can do. I definitely need an upgrade from my 3G. :)
Rogers has a promo that anyone who hasnt received an upgrade up to June 7th, qualifies for the iPhone

I got my 3GS last year on release day, and I qualify for the 4....so she should as well.

[cwp_sedan]

Rogers has a promo that anyone who hasnt received an upgrade up to June 7th, qualifies for the iPhone

I got my 3GS last year on release day, and I qualify for the 4....so she should as well.

Yeah it would be good but she's with Bell and hates them. She wants to switch to Rogers. I would be willing to sign another 3 year contract if they give both her and myself a good deal. I got a really good plan with my 3G and hope to get the same with the iPhone 4. :)

[SilentJay]

^^^ If bell does come through with the 6gb plan, unless they've done some really stupid things to her, staying on the Bell HSPA network would probably be quite a bit faster than Rogers' congested network.

[cwp_sedan]

^^^ If bell does come through with the 6gb plan, unless they've done some really stupid things to her, staying on the Bell HSPA network would probably be quite a bit faster than Rogers' congested network.

She barely gets any service in our building now with Bell, and when she does the call gets cut off within 1-10 minutes. She gets delayed text messages (by like hours, not just minutes), and some don't even come through. She gets wrongly connected calls and a ridiculously expensive plan without any forgiveness on their part. Bell sucks balls.

Rogers isn't much better but I can at least get a better deal through them.