Torch 9800, HTC Desire, Samsung Galaxy S, or iPhone 4 ??

[SL3VIN]

So I am currently with Rogers using an iphone 3G (with no data plan), and in the next few weeks I am going to upgrade to a new phone and sign up for a data plan. I am stuck between the Torch 9800, HTC Desire, Samsung Galaxy S, or iPhone 4. I have a lot of friends on bbm so I am leaning towards the Torch 9800, but what is your opinion?

[kjmckenz]

I'm (unfortunately?) a fandroid so I say Desire or Galaxy. ^_^
I wouldn't really base my phone purchase on the fact that 'my friends have one' - in ref to your 'leaning towards the Torch' comment.

Maybe go in to a store, try them out, and see which feels better?

[SL3VIN]

I'm (unfortunately?) a fandroid so I say Desire or Galaxy. ^_^
I wouldn't really base my phone purchase on the fact that 'my friends have one' - in ref to your 'leaning towards the Torch' comment.

Maybe go in to a store, try them out, and see which feels better?

True say, btw I never used an android phone before... can you fill me in on why it is such a good OS?

[kjmckenz]

True say, btw I never used an android phone before... can you fill me in on why it is such a good OS?

It's a good OS depending on your needs... I'm hugely against proprietary software and OS' like BB OS 6 and iPhone with it's new OS 4 hold me back tremendously when I want to mod something in my phone. Then again I studied computer programming in college, so it's mostly a personal pref.

If you stop into a store, they should have no qualms about letting you try out the phone prior to purchase, since how else can you be sure that's the phone you want if you're trying to choose between a bunch of different models?

BB OS 6 is new, but still stable (from what I've read). iPhone OS 4 is stable & now has the multi threading capability which is pretty sweet for an iPhone. Android is not as stable as the others but allows you to do a bit more of what you want if you want to do so...

[SL3VIN]

Hmmm.. I see, the Samsung Galaxy S does sound very appealing. With it's high res (bigger) screen and powerful processor. Also swipe typing is an interesting idea, and it has free google GPS.

BTW does anyone know how long the rogers $30/6Gb deal will go on for?

[kjmckenz]

Hmmm.. I see, the Samsung Galaxy S does sound very appealing. With it's high res (bigger) screen and powerful processor. Also swipe typing is an interesting idea, and it has free google GPS.

BTW does anyone know how long the rogers $30/6Gb deal will go on for?

Swype is such a sick app, seriously.
All current Android phones I'm aware of are GPS ready.. I have yet to see one that is not...

I forget who, but there's someone on the forums that works for Robbers that should be able to answer your question maybe soon-ish. :)

[TokyoKiller]

I'll lay the Pros/Cons for you from experience and you can decide...

BlackBerry: Great for email and BBM, very boring platform with a lack of good apps. For example the Facebook App is lackluster compared to the iPhone/Android.

Android: Great platform for a technically inclined user who likes to customize and modify their phone with home brewed apps. I personally find the software great, but the hardware is lackluster in terms of design (compared to Apple and RIM)

iPhone/iOS: Great platform that "just works", email has been greatly improved. Great web kit browser, if jail broken, you can have an app for practically anything and app support is the widest and well done

I personally have had 4 BlackBerry's (8310, 8900, 9000 and 9700), 3 iPhones (3G, 3GS and 4) and an XPERIA X10 demo from work. Plus I've tried the 9800 before it was released and the software platform is still a business platform even though the interface has been eye candied to catch up to iOS and Android. From going through all these phones, the platform that really works for me all around has been the iPhone platform.

[pacmann33]

By far, get the HTC desire

I just bought a Bold 9700 last night as my 8330 curve is on it's way out. I would have bought the desire if I was not on construction sites all the time. Touch screen phones do not last well in my line of work. The only thing that lasts are blackberrys unfortunately. Iphone 4 is a boo boo and the HTC desire really really is a wicked phone. I have buyers remorse but I know I just couldn't have the desire for long without replacing screens over and over. I love Blackberry but since I have a serperate work phone I was hoping to be able to get someone with a little more speed and tinkering ability. I researched for days and days and the HTC Desire came out on top for me every time.

I guarantee none of the touch screen phones will last a whopping 2 years like my trusty curve has, and my 8703e did. I don't even want to know how many phones my employer has had to replace in the lifetime of those 2 phones.

Next time I'll get an android phone or something...2 years from now i hope LOL!

[TokyoKiller]

By far, get the HTC desire

I just bought a Bold 9700 last night as my 8330 curve is on it's way out. I would have bought the desire if I was not on construction sites all the time. Touch screen phones do not last well in my line of work. The only thing that lasts are blackberrys unfortunately. Iphone 4 is a boo boo and the HTC desire really really is a wicked phone. I have buyers remorse but I know I just couldn't have the desire for long without replacing screens over and over. I love Blackberry but since I have a serperate work phone I was hoping to be able to get someone with a little more speed and tinkering ability. I researched for days and days and the HTC Desire came out on top for me every time.

I guarantee none of the touch screen phones will last a whopping 2 years like my trusty curve has, and my 8703e did. I don't even want to know how many phones my employer has had to replace in the lifetime of those 2 phones.

Next time I'll get an android phone or something...2 years from now i hope LOL!

How is the iPhone 4 a boo boo?

[Noisy Crow]

There are lot's of reviews out there...

I will be replacing my phone soo, so I have been investigating the Galaxy S, the Desire, and even the Legend.

iPhone is nice, but I dislike the close O/S. A bunch of people out there like the Galaxy's specs, but are leery about buying something from Samsung because of the company's poor track record for upgrades and support.

[TokyoKiller]

There are lot's of reviews out there...

I will be replacing my phone soo, so I have been investigating the Galaxy S, the Desire, and even the Legend.

iPhone is nice, but I dislike the close O/S. A bunch of people out there like the Galaxy's specs, but are leery about buying something from Samsung because of the company's poor track record for upgrades and support.

I agree with you on the closed OS aspect, if you Jailbreak the OS it is amazing.

[Riftler]

I am kinda stuck with the same situation, my BB Bold is pretty much dead, i cant even unlock the phone anymore as the button is broken. I plan to upgrade but I dont like all Touch phones....i was thinking of the torch, but no quite sure

[prinsesa]

two of my friends are selling their BB Bold 9000 and 9700 lol
they both want to get new phones now haha

[insaini]

get a blackberry ... you wont be dissapointed ....

[TokyoKiller]

get a blackberry ... you wont be dissapointed ....

You surely won't be, get ready for frequent battery pulls and JAVA errors here and there. Plus, mediocre build quality =)!

[S.F.W.]

You surely won't be, get ready for frequent battery pulls and JAVA errors here and there. Plus, mediocre build quality =)!
I would disagree on both fronts. I have had my BB 9700 since the second day Bell carried the product. I have had 2 do battery pulls twice, and have not encountered other errors. I am a very heavy user, and also use many applications.

[pacmann33]

The iPhone 4 is a boo boo because of the mentally retarded mistake they made with the antenna....watch youtube videos of it. I have personally witnessed a friends iPhone do this... Apple's fix? offer a free rubber bumper skin so your hands don't short out the antenna.

On top of that a bunch have complained of defective screens with a yellow tinge to them. Apple claims it will go away eventually...

Apple screwed up huge! one of thier big wigs form IBM resigned over it...but was more than likely told to hit the road lol. Supposedly the developers were required to use a rubber skin to conceal the appearance of the iPhone 4 during development so the problem was not noted until the day of it's release.

Battery pulls? once in a while with blackberry but they are by FAR the most stable phones I have ever ever used. I am a heavy BB user also. My curve is 2 years old and required 2 or 3 battery pulls. My frigging ipod has required MANY hard boots and it is less than a year old. iPhones are not as stable as any RIM device IMO.

Blackberry build quality is second to none...ONLY phones I can't regularly break! dollar for dollar the blackberry will be one of the cheapest phones you will ever own as it will last and last. Battery life is incredible on the 9700 as well. Can't wait for mine to arrive.

[billd80]

I have a Samsung Omnia that runs windows mobile and I friggin' love it!!, tons of free apps and such (if only telus hadn't locked it up soo tight!). I know tons of people who love their samsung phones :)

[kid_icarus]

i don't have much to offer but to say the HTC Desire is awesome.
I had a chance to hold and play with my friends the other day and it is extremely WELL built and very solid.
A bit on th heavy side but nothing too heavy compared to the iphone

the samsung is nice too but is nowhere close to as sleek as the desire. screen seems a bit dingy and not bright enough either.

personally I wouldn't mind venturing into the realm of HTC if it wasn't for BBmessenger.
I realize there are substitutes like google talk and etc but somehow bb messengers's simplicity and reliability are pretty good to me

when it comes time to upgrade i'll be considering either android or blackberry again.
i still like the tactile feel of buttons... don't know why..

[chinsterr]

I think I've done over 50 battery pulls on my bold 9000. It started to get slow and laggy near the end. It took a beating and the only thing to mess up is the trackball , which is fixed with the trackpad with the 9700. The apps on BB suck. The os is dated. Email and bbm are the only things worth mentioning.

IPhone 2g > samsung instinct > curve 8830 > bold 9000 > iPhone 4

Don't think I will ever part with the iphone again. Played with the galaxy before getting the iPhone , I really liked it but I find android os a little too overwhelming sometimes.

[chinsterr]

By the way , I posted the message above from my iPhone. Would have taken me an hour to do this on my old bold 9000.

Oh yeah, surfing the net on a BB is so painful it's not even worth doing.

[MistaChin]

Buy an iphone and help Apple stock! Right chin?? hehe

[pacmann33]

I agree that Blackberry has some SERIOUS catch up to do in terms of the browsing experience and the OS in general. Not very rewarding experience.

I wish I got the HTC instead!

BBM is awesome though!

Another note....WTF were they thinking with the "Torch". That phone is a band aid that isn't going to help their cause.

[TokyoKiller]

The iPhone 4 is a boo boo because of the mentally retarded mistake they made with the antenna....watch youtube videos of it. I have personally witnessed a friends iPhone do this... Apple's fix? offer a free rubber bumper skin so your hands don't short out the antenna.

On top of that a bunch have complained of defective screens with a yellow tinge to them. Apple claims it will go away eventually...

Apple screwed up huge! one of thier big wigs form IBM resigned over it...but was more than likely told to hit the road lol. Supposedly the developers were required to use a rubber skin to conceal the appearance of the iPhone 4 during development so the problem was not noted until the day of it's release.

Battery pulls? once in a while with blackberry but they are by FAR the most stable phones I have ever ever used. I am a heavy BB user also. My curve is 2 years old and required 2 or 3 battery pulls. My frigging ipod has required MANY hard boots and it is less than a year old. iPhones are not as stable as any RIM device IMO.

Blackberry build quality is second to none...ONLY phones I can't regularly break! dollar for dollar the blackberry will be one of the cheapest phones you will ever own as it will last and last. Battery life is incredible on the 9700 as well. Can't wait for mine to arrive.

I hope you enjoy the 9700. I've grown to hate BlackBerry's now, they used to be #1 in my books. I had my 9700 replaced 5 times (build quality every time), my 9000 3 times, and my 8900 2 twice.

My experience went like this: Nokia N95 --> BB 8310 --> BB 9000 --> iPhone 3G --> BB 8900 --> iPhone 3G[S] --> BB9700 --> iPhone 4.

Every time I left the iPhone I regretted it, and I think I have settled on the fact that I will never own another RIM product, they rehash the same formula and release it as a new phone. Sure Apple does the same thing, but they add a "twist" to it and the build quality is consistent.

Mind you, this iPhone 4 antenna issue is way overblown and I have yet to see my iPhone 4 lose a data connection or a phone call. I've already used it for 10 hours of talk time and 2GB+ of data on 3G since launch. This issue plagues people in very low reception areas hence why people on AT&T are bitching and complaining.

Having worked in wireless for 2 years, I can't even explain to you how many BlackBerry's come for servicing and returns due to build quality. iPhones and Android phones were rarely returned/serviced.

Its all about what kind of experience you've had with these devices and manufacturers.

[Mr Fatty]

for Blackberry, you guys know that you can do key strokes versus actually pulling the battery... press left [alt], right [shift] (the [aA] key) and [del]; it resets the phone for you, similar to battery pull

[TokyoKiller]

for Blackberry, you guys know that you can do key strokes versus actually pulling the battery... press left [alt], right [shift] (the [aA] key) and [del]; it resets the phone for you, similar to battery pull

+ 1

[pacmann33]

I work in low reception areas all the time so the iPhone issue worried me. I did consider getting an iPhone 4. I will just get an ipod touch for the car/wifi and keep the BB for a phone. I also like the tactile feel of a full qwerty as well. I text/BBM a LOT. There is no perfect phone IMO. I'd love an HTC desire with a full solid feeling qwerty slide, similar to the motorolla milestone, but that phone feels very breakable.

Hard to get the best of both worlds. The torch won't be that answer either.

[cereal83]

I have the Bold 9000 and it has worked great since Dec 2008. I have had to do battery pulls a few times but the worst part is since upgrading to OSv5, it takes 2 battery bars to reboot the device which sucks if you have a crash when your not near a charger as the phone is useless. BBM is the best but I wanted a touch phone and started looking at devices. I was looking at the Sony X10 but it seems big but cool because it has android but an old version. then I looked at the Iphone as why buy something thats always trying to compete with the Iphone but then it's impossible to get one unless you line up so I started looking at alternatives which is the Galaxy S and it looks great, has android which is open and will sync with all my goggle appz that I use everyday and it amazing but bit's longer then the Iphone 4 and my current phone which sucks as I don't want a big phone.

I am gonna try lining up this week and if I can't get the iphone 4, then I am gonna either get a Iphone 3Gs or the Galaxy S. I need a new phone now as it seems that if my phone is bumped like I put it down too hard or something, I have to do a reboot which kills my battery.

[starscream]

I am still between the iPhone4 and Samsung Galaxy S (capivate for Rogers).

I realllyy wanted teh Motorola Droid X but thats a Verizon only phone and I dont think Rogers is getting any nice Motorola Android phones.

I wonder how Windows 7 phone will do.

[SL3VIN]

For those that already own the iPhone 4, how is the battery life? Does it last a full day of moderate usage? (50 webpage views, 2hrs of talk, etc.)

[mazidane]

So I am currently with Rogers using an iphone 3G (with no data plan), and in the next few weeks I am going to upgrade to a new phone and sign up for a data plan. I am stuck between the Torch 9800, HTC Desire, Samsung Galaxy S, or iPhone 4. I have a lot of friends on bbm so I am leaning towards the Torch 9800, but what is your opinion?

Anything but BlackBerry, launching a brand new phone like the Torch using last years technology doesn't say much about where RIM is headed. Add to that the BB OS6 is not supported by the Storm 2 a phone that launched about 8 to 10 months ago, is a major disappointment.

I have a BB9700 at the moment, its an ok phone overall, however my next phone will not be a BB, unless they make major strides in OS, hardware and UI development.

BB phones are generally underpowered and if you combine them with multi tasking and all the apps that you may want to run, its only a recipe for battery pulls and automatic phone reboots.

BB are using the BBM to their advantage at the moment, but thats about all that they are good for plus email. Apps are not their forte, unless App World 2.0 is a major development.

Time will tell.

[Riftler]

Are all the "good" android phones just touch screens? I'm interested in getting one but I hate pure touch phones. Anyone know any?

[Burner]

For those that already own the iPhone 4, how is the battery life? Does it last a full day of moderate usage? (50 webpage views, 2hrs of talk, etc.)

Mine just lasted 2.5 days with a little bit more then moderate usage. It still had 44% left when I put it on charge last night. On days when I used it heavily (lots of game playing, app downloading, streaming video, etc.) it took 13-14 hours to get to around 25%.

[thanu31]

I love android phones, but the last 2 HTC's i been through, the battery life suckeddd

Does anyone know how the Galaxy and the Desire hold up with battery life?

[nomik2]

Seriously? People are actually suggesting the Torch?

It might be the best Blackberry to date...but that isnt saying much as the OS has fallen way behind AndroidOS and iOS. The upcoming Windows Phone 7 is already looking much better...

As much as RIM is good at iterating its hardware...it is really bad at working on its software.

As an iPhone user myself...I can tell you that you will hate the Torch. BBM is just not worth it...

[Sales 101]

9700 for over a year. never batt pull. batt life is excellent. before had 9000 had to repait track ball. love the track pad.

[SL3VIN]

Wow, these lineups for the iPhone 4 is crazy... what a mess. I wonder how long this craze will last, hopefully b4 sept 30th when the 6Gb plan and the case program ends.

[insaini]

Seriously? People are actually suggesting the Torch?

It might be the best Blackberry to date...but that isnt saying much as the OS has fallen way behind AndroidOS and iOS. The upcoming Windows Phone 7 is already looking much better...

As much as RIM is good at iterating its hardware...it is really bad at working on its software.

As an iPhone user myself...I can tell you that you will hate the Torch. BBM is just not worth it...

are u kidding me? ... first off you've most likely always been an apple fan boy and have never had a blackberry ... go try blackberry messenger and tell me you don't think its the best thing you have ever experienced on a phone... apple is trying so hard to implement something similar to their OS but most likely will never succeed.

Also who cares if the OS is not as good iOS and AndriodOS ... it does the job ... 95% of the businesses use it and has mostly likely never let them down....

those os's have alot of games and stuff ... why do you need games on your phone? get a console
those os's have alot of apps ... blackberry app world has apps that people would actually use in their everyday life ... they don't need farting apps

go try typing up an email / work file may it be excel, word, or powerpoint on an iphone or andriod and let me know if you succeed ...

a blackberry was always meant for people who need to get work done ... they just added these apps and games for these people who always complain ...

dont say the torch or any blackberry is a bad phone ..

especially if you have never had one ..

and please tell me one thing ... whats the diff between the old iphone and the new one?

front facing camera? hd video?

go buy a real camera if you want to use it for taking pictures and recording video ...

the os is the same shit as before ... i dont see no difference in it other then some new added garbage..

get a blackberry ... u wont regret it ...

o and one more thing .. what the big deal about pulling out a battery and putting it back in? u have to restarted the iphone when the dam thing freezes anyway so i dont see what people are trying to get at ... dont act like the iphone doesnt freeze ... you run a couple of apps (if it even has multi tasking now.. i dont think it does ) .. the stupid thing freezes

[TokyoKiller]

are u kidding me? ... first off you've most likely always been an apple fan boy and have never had a blackberry ... go try blackberry messenger and tell me you don't think its the best thing you have ever experienced on a phone... apple is trying so hard to implement something similar to their OS but most likely will never succeed.

Also who cares if the OS is not as good iOS and AndriodOS ... it does the job ... 95% of the businesses use it and has mostly likely never let them down....

those os's have alot of games and stuff ... why do you need games on your phone? get a console
those os's have alot of apps ... blackberry app world has apps that people would actually use in their everyday life ... they don't need farting apps

go try typing up an email / work file may it be excel, word, or powerpoint on an iphone or andriod and let me know if you succeed ...

a blackberry was always meant for people who need to get work done ... they just added these apps and games for these people who always complain ...

dont say the torch or any blackberry is a bad phone ..

especially if you have never had one ..

and please tell me one thing ... whats the diff between the old iphone and the new one?

front facing camera? hd video?

go buy a real camera if you want to use it for taking pictures and recording video ...

the os is the same shit as before ... i dont see no difference in it other then some new added garbage..

get a blackberry ... u wont regret it ...

o and one more thing .. what the big deal about pulling out a battery and putting it back in? u have to restarted the iphone when the dam thing freezes anyway so i dont see what people are trying to get at ... dont act like the iphone doesnt freeze ... you run a couple of apps (if it even has multi tasking now.. i dont think it does ) .. the stupid thing freezes

I've tried 4 different BlackBerry models and sold hundreds of them at work, and I think they are horrible products.

BlackBerry's cannot multitask without lagging or freezing. Their internet browser STILL has to catch up to Safari and the Android Browser.

RIM is a business platform and there are only 2 advantages to having a BlackBerry, BlackBerry Messenger (which I used to like and now HATE with passion) and E-Mail (Apple is slowly catching up with this segment with Microsoft Exchange).

The reason why I hate BBM is for two reasons, number one is that people take that shit too seriously, you open a message and read it and they expect you to respond immediately and if you don't they get all like WTF! WHY IGNORING :complain and then I hate it when I JUST met someone and they ask you for your PIN, how about NO.

Java is a slow language to have an OS based off, RIM needs to find a better coding language to work with.

EDIT: I forgot to mention, look at the commercials RIM is putting out on TV. All they advertise is BBM, its all they have going for them at this moment.

[insaini]

you hate to give your pin to a girl you just met? .. lol um o .. i dont think i would mind that lol

and if people get mad at you that you read their message and didnt reply .. theirs 2 solutions ..

dont read it
or dont reply and let them say what ever they want :S


and honestly .. apple will never catch up to RIM in regards to email ... never ... and also security ..

browser is bad? so what ... you use your browser on a phone to check out a site or something quickly and thats it .. maybe read the news ...

are you telling me you cant do that on the blackberry browser? its not a computer its a phone to do tasks quickly while on the go..

people expect way to much from a phone....

[insaini]

i also notice your sig has fb twitter and email ...how long does it take for you to type something up on an iphone in one of those applications?

please dont say a touchscreen is easier to type on rather then a physical keyboard..

[Burner]

you hate to give your pin to a girl you just met? .. lol um o .. i dont think i would mind that lol

and if people get mad at you that you read their message and didnt reply .. theirs 2 solutions ..

dont read it
or dont reply and let them say what ever they want :S


and honestly .. apple will never catch up to RIM in regards to email ... never ... and also security ..

browser is bad? so what ... you use your browser on a phone to check out a site or something quickly and thats it .. maybe read the news ...

are you telling me you cant do that on the blackberry browser? its not a computer its a phone to do tasks quickly while on the go..

people expect way to much from a phone....

Your posts make it seem like you regret buying a BB and you have to bash other devices to make yourself feel better about your purchase.

[thanu31]

^ or hes a hardcore BB guy

and i heard the swype keyboards on the Galaxy are just as good or better then a real keyboard

[chinsterr]

Look at Rim's stock , it's dropping for a reason !

[insaini]

Your posts make it seem like you regret buying a BB and you have to bash other devices to make yourself feel better about your purchase.

i could say the same thing about any person who has posted in this thread bashing the BB .....

i guess alot of people now feel better about buying a andriod or an iphone since they are bashing the torch?

[insaini]

Look at Rim's stock , it's dropping for a reason !

it dropped because of the stupid shit that happend in saudi arabia ..

do you really think RIM's stock is going to keep dropping? come on?

[chinsterr]

I've owned 2 Blackberry's and 2 iphone's


For my needs (surf web, games, useful apps, music, movies), the iphone wins. I love BBM and it's hard to get back into text messaging, but I'll survive.

[chinsterr]

it dropped because of the stupid shit that happend in saudi arabia ..

do you really think RIM's stock is going to keep dropping? come on?

It's been dropping wayy before this suadi fiasco. Use your BB to look that up! Oh wait, it would take you 2 hours and then require a battery pull. Eat it

It's gone from 150 to 60 ... and hasn't rebounded from highs more than a year ago.

[laksman91]

are u kidding me? ... first off you've most likely always been an apple fan boy and have never had a blackberry ... go try blackberry messenger and tell me you don't think its the best thing you have ever experienced on a phone... apple is trying so hard to implement something similar to their OS but most likely will never succeed.

Also who cares if the OS is not as good iOS and AndriodOS ... it does the job ... 95% of the businesses use it and has mostly likely never let them down....

those os's have alot of games and stuff ... why do you need games on your phone? get a console
those os's have alot of apps ... blackberry app world has apps that people would actually use in their everyday life ... they don't need farting apps

go try typing up an email / work file may it be excel, word, or powerpoint on an iphone or andriod and let me know if you succeed ...

a blackberry was always meant for people who need to get work done ... they just added these apps and games for these people who always complain ...

dont say the torch or any blackberry is a bad phone ..

especially if you have never had one ..

and please tell me one thing ... whats the diff between the old iphone and the new one?

front facing camera? hd video?

go buy a real camera if you want to use it for taking pictures and recording video ...

the os is the same shit as before ... i dont see no difference in it other then some new added garbage..

get a blackberry ... u wont regret it ...

o and one more thing .. what the big deal about pulling out a battery and putting it back in? u have to restarted the iphone when the dam thing freezes anyway so i dont see what people are trying to get at ... dont act like the iphone doesnt freeze ... you run a couple of apps (if it even has multi tasking now.. i dont think it does ) .. the stupid thing freezes

you sound like tha fanboy. and to quickly call him a fanboy...wow



It's been dropping wayy before this suadi fiasco. Use your BB to look that up! Oh wait, it would take you 2 hours and then require a battery pull. Eat it

+1

doing things in the BB takes so much effort. Especially webbrowsing

[chinsterr]

Isanaii has left the thread... probably still waiting for that little clock to disappear -> pull battery --> phone died because restarting a BB kills 50% of your battery.

[insaini]

I've owned 2 Blackberry's and 2 iphone's


For my needs (surf web, games, useful apps, music, movies), the iphone wins. I love BBM and it's hard to get back into text messaging, but I'll survive.

exactly my point .. blackberry was never meant to be used for these kinds of things ... so why would you buy a blackberry? stick with the iphone ... thats what it was made for ... but why would you bash the blackberry just because it cant do those things? it was never meant to ..

[TokyoKiller]

i also notice your sig has fb twitter and email ...how long does it take for you to type something up on an iphone in one of those applications?

please dont say a touchscreen is easier to type on rather then a physical keyboard..

I type faster and with less errors on my iPhone than I did on any of my BlackBerry's. I can also text a lot easier/safer while driving a lot easier on my iPhone(s), its hard to believe but its true. (I know I don't text while I drive but I do respond the quick "I am driving." when I get a call.)

Also, I do hate to give my PIN to some random girls, because its those girls that are like OH MY GOD!!! YOU HAVE A BLACKBERRY!!! ADD ME ON BBM!!!111 that are drama queens and take shit out of context when you don't reply or something along those lines. I'd rather only give my PIN to people I know very WELL, but its hard when people put you on the spot and ask you to add them, it kills me.

[TokyoKiller]

exactly my point .. blackberry was never meant to be used for these kinds of things ... so why would you buy a blackberry? stick with the iphone ... thats what it was made for ... but why would you bash the blackberry just because it cant do those things? it was never meant to ..

I guess you missed my post that said BlackBerry's are good for two things.

[insaini]

Isanaii has left the thread... probably still waiting for that little clock to disappear -> pull battery --> phone died because restarting a BB kills 50% of your battery.

hahaha yet i dont use my phone to reply to you on this forum because thats not what i use my phone for ... as you can see i have specfic needs for my phone and the blackberry is great in doing all those ...

i dont need movies or music .. i have an ipod for that .. web browsing? .. i look up the news and it takes me a second to do so ... i dont need no crazy ass browser which includes shit that i dont use

i pull my battery out once a week due to alot of applications running in the background ... y do you act like the iphone doesnt ever freeze or get slow?

just cause the battery pull senario is popular on the blackberry doesnt mean you have to talk about it when talking about blackberry 24/7 .. im sure if the iphones battery came out ( which it doesnt and when it dies i hope you crack your screen trying to get that peice of shit open ) ... then will see whos talkin shit ...

if u want to play games and shit go grab ur self an iphone ... its a toy ...

you wanna text .. and talk on the phone and be able to receive emails and not wait an hour after someone sends you it ... grab your self a blackberry ...

done

[MistaChin]

:pop

[laksman91]

you wanna text .. and talk on the phone and be able to receive emails and not wait an hour after someone sends you it ... grab your self a blackberry ...

done


oh cause if forgot no other phones could do that.

have you heard of Push e-mail?

[insaini]

you still there? ... o oops you had your hand on the side of the iphone? did you forget you cant hold it properly because the signal is gonna cut out? buy a case and make your phone that is suppose to be thin .. fat ..

anyways im done good luck picking a phone

[MistaChin]

F*CK ALL Y'ALL

http://unitedwirelessordering.com/images/Nokia%205190.jpg

[SL3VIN]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h95Lfgd05Z8 just saw this vid on youtube.

at least batter pulls will be much faster now... hmm

[thanu31]

F*CK ALL Y'ALL

http://unitedwirelessordering.com/images/Nokia%205190.jpg

rock on dude! LoL

[thanu31]

you still there? ... o oops you had your hand on the side of the iphone? did you forget you cant hold it properly because the signal is gonna cut out? buy a case and make your phone that is suppose to be thin .. fat ..

anyways im done good luck picking a phone

better then, oh wait let me look this up,
Oh fak, its frozen, give me 3 mins !

bro when people spend money on a phone, they want to get the best out of it. Why give up features when you can have it all for the same cost?

[Burner]

i could say the same thing about any person who has posted in this thread bashing the BB .....

i guess alot of people now feel better about buying a andriod or an iphone since they are bashing the torch?

I didn't see much bashing of BB. More so people stating BB's limitations. You've repeated those limitations.

Anyways, I have the iPhone 4 and I haven't dropped a call yet. I'm not using a case either. So while the antenna issues are valid, they were definitely overblown by the media in my opinion.

[mazidane]

you still there? ... o oops you had your hand on the side of the iphone? did you forget you cant hold it properly because the signal is gonna cut out? buy a case and make your phone that is suppose to be thin .. fat ..

anyways im done good luck picking a phone

lol calm down dude, every one has their choice, all devices have their positives and negatives, RIM at the moment is seriously lagging behind, I asked someone I know, who works for RIM why the Torch had last years processor and crap screen resolution, all he could say was he didn't know why, and he has had a prototype of the BB device for a very long time now.

[barack osama]

hey guys,
you guys are forgetting abt the people that cant afford data plan. I am a wireless user thats on pay as you go and all my buddies use feature phones.I believe feature phones are the most reliable out there. they rarely freeze up and are usually very durable. Alot of these smart phones have large screens that can easily be broken when dropped and therefore will cause alot of problems down the road. Cellular telephones are meant to call and occasionally send/recieve text messages. I have an old samsung flip phone that has lasted me over 4 years and is still going strong. The internal motor inside my phone seems like it has alot of life in it, maybe pushing past the 300,000 minute mark. you guys can argue all day long abt which smartphone is superior, but in my honest opinion feature phones are the most reliable when it comes down to talking to your buddies. I have a laptop that i use to play games and surf the web when im on the go ( only when wifi is available).
So guys can we please get along?! we are the Mazda super crew and we should all learn to accept the fact that barack osama is always right!
Thats my cool story.

Thank you

[cwp_sedan]

we are the Mazda super crew and we should all learn to accept the fact that barack osama is always right!

If only that were the truth...

[SL3VIN]

http://newsfeed.time.com/2010/08/10/new-report-iphone-users-have-more-sex/?hpt=Mid

Hmm, very interesting lol.

After some research this is my conclusion:

As of now, I am very interested in what the Galaxy has to offer, it is indeed a great phone but as people in this post have said, Samsung has poor customer support which could be a problem later on. The HTC is a great android phone but falls behind the Galaxy due to a very short battery life and availability with Rogers (the carrier that I intend to stay with).

The BB Torch falls behind in hardware and software, the new OS is a great improvement but is still no where as good as the iOS and the android, also it seems as though RIM has half A$$ED this phone... QVGA screen..No HD video recording... No HTML5, No 1Ghz processor. With that said I like BBM a lot and it is indeed very addicting, also it uses 1/3rd of the data compared to other smartphones, it also sends emails and text very efficiently.

My top choice as of now is the iPhone 4 it is a great all around phone with its only major flaw being the antenna design but IMO that is not that big of a deal, I also qualify for HUP with rogers and I recently signed a sick retention plan :) The only question now is if I can get one before sept 30th so that I can get that $30/6Gb deal and the free case. In the end it is just a phone and I am not willing to line up 4 hrs to get it and at this rate, the supply and demand problem probably won't calm down until after sept 30th....

[Burner]

http://newsfeed.time.com/2010/08/10/new-report-iphone-users-have-more-sex/?hpt=Mid

Hmm, very interesting lol.

After some research this is my conclusion:

As of now, I am very interested in what the Galaxy has to offer, it is indeed a great phone but as people in this post have said, Samsung has poor customer support which could be a problem later on. The HTC is a great android phone but falls behind the Galaxy due to a very short battery life and availability with Rogers (the carrier that I intend to stay with).

The BB Torch falls behind in hardware and software, the new OS is a great improvement but is still no where as good as the iOS and the android, also it seems as though RIM has half A$$ED this phone... QVGA screen..No HD video recording... No HTML5, No 1Ghz processor. With that said I like BBM a lot and it is indeed very addicting, also it uses 1/3rd of the data compared to other smartphones, it also sends emails and text very efficiently.

My top choice as of now is the iPhone 4 it is a great all around phone with its only major flaw being the antenna design but IMO that is not that big of a deal, I also qualify for HUP with rogers and I recently signed a sick retention plan :) The only question now is if I can get one before sept 30th so that I can get that $30/6Gb deal and the free case. In the end it is just a phone and I am not willing to line up 4 hrs to get it and at this rate, the supply and demand problem probably won't calm down until after sept 30th....

I find it crazy that people are having to line up for hours to get the iP4. I walked into a Bell store at 11AM on launch day and there was one person in front of me.

[TokyoKiller]

I find it crazy that people are having to line up for hours to get the iP4. I walked into a Bell store at 11AM on launch day and there was one person in front of me.

That's the thing. You went on Bell, most people are or want to go with Rogers or Fido. That's where it becomes a problem.

[SL3VIN]

That's the thing. You went on Bell, most people are or want to go with Rogers or Fido. That's where it becomes a problem.
Yeah, as of now I think rogers has the best data plan offered. IMO telus and bell really shot themselves in the leg for not offering a equivalent or better data plan...

[TokyoKiller]

Yeah, as of now I think rogers has the best data plan offered. IMO telus and bell really shot themselves in the leg for not offering a equivalent or better data plan...

Bell has the 6GB offer at the moment, and is offering to let customers share that data with an iPad for $10 a month compared to ROGER's $20.

There are many advantages of going with ROGERS over Bell and Telus, specially with GSM/HSPA+ devices.

[starscream]

http://www.dailytech.com/Hacker+Brings+Android+to+the+iPhone+3G+iPhone+3GS+ Up+Next/article18331.htm

turn on phone
see this
wat do?

:P best of both worlds i suppose...

[TokyoKiller]

http://www.dailytech.com/Hacker+Brings+Android+to+the+iPhone+3G+iPhone+3GS+ Up+Next/article18331.htm

turn on phone
see this
wat do?

:P best of both worlds i suppose...

That would be worthwhile on an iPhone 4. Ahh the speed :chuckle

[SL3VIN]

So I decided to get the iPhone 4 in the end. I managed to grab a 16gb from a Rogers plus store in Newmarket last Friday. So far no complaints, no dropped calls and the display is absolutely stunning.

[Ex-Rolla]

I'm a little biased towards BB, only because I've been so used to them, starting with the 7xxx series (waaay bback when the screens were black and white)

However after using the ipad for a number of weeks, I'm beginning to really enjoy the touch screen aspect of. The iphone4, with the really nice looking screen and great apps are beginning to really sway my opinion towards apple.

I'm due for an upgrade so before making a call, I'm going to check out the torch. One thing I don't like is the fact that the screen is not "HD" in terms of todays standards with regards to smartphones. It's not a deal breaker by any means, but it's one x towards it. I would like to try out OS6 as well as I heard some pretty good things about it.
Either way, I'm going to wait it out a bit longer. Would like to try both phones side by side before making the jump.

Besides... I friggin love typing on a keyboard. Especially BB keyboards. :)

[stugautz]

I'd say go with the Galaxy S. When you look at the whole package, it matches up very well to the iPhone, and does things the iPhone can't do. Like divx and Flash support. Also if you travel a bit, you'll appreciate the Galaxy S supports TV out via micro USB to HDMI cable or a composite cable that connects to the headphone jack.

The Best Buy at Bay And Dundas has an iPhone 4 and a Galaxy S demo models if you want to do a head to head comparison. The Future Shop at Yonge and Dundas has the HTC desire and Galaxy S.

Also read the reviews out there. Tons of head to head comparisons of the phones you're looking for.

[prinsesa]

BB Lover for life.
Guy at the Bar: Hey, can I get your number?
Me: Do you have BBM?
Guy at the Bar: BB what ???
Me: Nevermind..*walks away*

LOL

Get the Torch =]

[TokyoKiller]

BB Lover for life.
Guy at the Bar: Hey, can I get your number?
Me: Do you have BBM?
Guy at the Bar: BB what ???
Me: Nevermind..*walks away*

LOL

Get the Torch =]

I'd rather not have a phone then have to use a BlackBerry again. The Torch is horrible, look at the sales so far...they've already slashed the price down to $99. I called this one before they launched it, the day I tried it back in May, I knew it was going to be a FAIL.

[bman13]

^ that being said, I rather still get it then be Galaxy S...IMO, all non-iphone/berry phones just dont cut it. If we had some droids on this side of the border, then there would be some actual alternative but to me the discussion is usually iphone or blackberry.

[TokyoKiller]

^ that being said, I rather still get it then be Galaxy S...IMO, all non-iphone/berry phones just dont cut it. If we had some droids on this side of the border, then there would be some actual alternative but to me the discussion is usually iphone or blackberry.

Speaking of the Galaxy S, I tried it the other day. I had my iPhone 4 and the Galaxy S side-by-side. The screen is just as nice as the iPhone 4 in terms of resolution, but the color looked miles ahead on the iPhone 4, then I tried the browsers on both on similar sites. The sites loaded faster on the iPhone 4, and once both loaded the Galaxy S lags when you scroll around the pages. Aesthetically speaking the Galaxy S was boring too.

Honestly, if I were to get an Android. I'd get the Nexus One.

[prinsesa]

what???? torch for $99 WHERE?!

[hyper7boy]

I recently got the Sony Ericsson Xperia X10 and so far its fantastic. I mostly use it for social networking such as facebook, texting, e-mails once in a while.. I like everything about it so far. My only con on the phone is that only the bluetooth phone works with the 2010 Mazda 3 bluetooth, not audio playback :(

[Jeff-TheBiz]

ALL I WANT IS A CAMERA THAT CAN MAKE PHONE CALLS!!!

[JashiK]

From my understanding Rogers still doesn't sell the Galaxy S (captivate)??? I've been waiting for this phone for some time.

[TokyoKiller]

what???? torch for $99 WHERE?!

Oh I forgot to mention that was in the States :chuckle

[prinsesa]

Oh I forgot to mention that was in the States :chuckle

Which carrier?!?!?!? I wanna get it!!!! How much without a contract

[klym]

Which carrier?!?!?!? I wanna get it!!!! How much without a contract

Pretty sure it's AT&T... the $99 is if you buy it from Amazon.com with a 3 year contract. As for how much it is without a contract I have no idea...

[prinsesa]

ghey. i just want 1 without a contract or a contract with rogers.
im eligible for $169 16gb or $269 32 gb for rogers iphone 4.

[yearoftherat]

ghey. i just want 1 without a contract or a contract with rogers.
im eligible for $169 16gb or $269 32 gb for rogers iphone 4.

I'll take the 32gb iPhone 4 off ya for $269....:chuckle

[Iceman_F1]

Speaking of the Galaxy S, I tried it the other day. I had my iPhone 4 and the Galaxy S side-by-side. The screen is just as nice as the iPhone 4 in terms of resolution, but the color looked miles ahead on the iPhone 4, then I tried the browsers on both on similar sites. The sites loaded faster on the iPhone 4, and once both loaded the Galaxy S lags when you scroll around the pages. Aesthetically speaking the Galaxy S was boring too.

Honestly, if I were to get an Android. I'd get the Nexus One.

I didn't go that into depth but my friend has a Galaxy S and we each tried each others phones at a BBQ on Saturday (I have the iPhone 4). I found his touch interface to be a bit laggy compared to the iPhone and the interface wasn't as intuitive as the iPhone in a couple spots. An example was the camera. Sure it had all these options that the iPhone didn't have but you have to drill down and play with the settings to find anything (like using the front camera) unlike the iPhone default camera which was simple and had the basic needed features right there.

That being said, so far there's a few apps he has that I wish I had (not jailbroken as I made the mistake of going to 4.0.2) but other than that I'm happy with what I have.

[prinsesa]

lmao, if im getting the iPhone 4 32 GB, I'd want more than $269 =P

[klym]

I really wish that Rogers offered the Droid X or Droid 2 as I would like to check them both out. I also still want a hand on experience with the Torch before I make a final call. That being said I have also heard of another new bold model, same look as current bold 2 except it's also a touch screen (No sliding).

[insaini]

I really wish that Rogers offered the Droid X or Droid 2 as I would like to check them both out. I also still want a hand on experience with the Torch before I make a final call. That being said I have also heard of another new bold model, same look as current bold 2 except it's also a touch screen (No sliding).

false ... no touch screen on new bold ... just upgraded hardware and os6

[Jeff-TheBiz]

Okay, so I am eligible an a HUD but I really like the Samsung.. and it is only with Bell at the moment..

Anyone know if Rogers will be getting this??

I like my BB but really like the iphone 4 or the Samsung.

[klym]

Okay, so I am eligible an a HUD but I really like the Samsung.. and it is only with Bell at the moment..

Anyone know if Rogers will be getting this??

I like my BB but really like the iphone 4 or the Samsung.


Rogers has said they will offer the Galaxy S soon... So you can always wait for that Jeff. Unless you need a new phone badly.

[bman13]

false ... no touch screen on new bold ... just upgraded hardware and os6

There are rumours actually of a non-slider touch with keyboard actually but wont be out until next year...but yes, the upgraded hardware one is 9780.

[bman13]

Pretty sure it's AT&T... the $99 is if you buy it from Amazon.com with a 3 year contract. As for how much it is without a contract I have no idea...

They dont have 3 yr contracts in the states, only up to 2 yrs.

[klym]

They dont have 3 yr contracts in the states, only up to 2 yrs.


Lucky bastards huh? Such a pain to wait for your 3yr contract to be up, or to have resign up for a new 3yr. We definitely need more competition added to the current market structure...

[TokyoKiller]

Okay, so I am eligible an a HUD but I really like the Samsung.. and it is only with Bell at the moment..

Anyone know if Rogers will be getting this??

I like my BB but really like the iphone 4 or the Samsung.

I think the iPhone 4 would be more suited for you. Just a personal feeling I have =P

[bman13]

Lucky bastards huh? Such a pain to wait for your 3yr contract to be up, or to have resign up for a new 3yr. We definitely need more competition added to the current market structure...

A lot of people HATE the conservative government but they want to open it up but obviously big 3 have money/sway but it'll be at least 10 yrs before you see another big red (Verizon) up north unfortunately.

I tell people all the time (not including retention plans or hookups) the only thing that Canadians pay less for is health care otherwise everything is cheaper in the states.