CPE standbacks?

[shu5892001]

Hi guys,

Sorry for my n00b question, I can't really find any specific topics on the cpe standbacks on this forum....

I know the standback are for tuning the car, but how/who exactly tunes it? After we install it do we tune it ourselves? Is there any shop that can tune for it for us? Anyone has this? Is it worth it?

lol sorry for my n00bness..

Thanks,
Shu

[MPS]

you can tune your self if you wish or know who to
or take it to a shop like Magnus
they tuned some speed 3 there with CPe

[MPS]

and i think yor better off using hyperthech if they make it for your car

[shu5892001]

and i think yor better off using hyperthech if they make it for your car

they don't make it for 04-05 lol

[taz4432]

You can tune it yourself or like Vlad said, take it to someone who will do it for you. If you look on their website or on M3F you can find screenshots of what the program looks like.

I've been considering getting one of these and will be doing all the tuning myself should I bite the bullet and go for it. Keep in mind you're also going to want to get a Wideband to really be able to tune properly.

As for is it worth it...depends on what you've done to your car and what you plan to do to your car. If you're going to pay someone else to tune it then I'd say no, it's probably not worth it.

I see you have a CAI and a CBE, do you have headers or are you planning on getting headers? Perhaps an intake manifold? I wouldn't get an intake manifold without a way to tune the car (such as the standback). You can definitely get some gains, but I'd recommend it only if you plan on doing at least *most* of the tuning yourself. Paying for dyno/tune time is $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$.

[shu5892001]

I have I/H/E and but I don't really know how to tune a car and like what is involved and stuff... The graph on M3F seems pretty complicated...

You can tune it yourself or like Vlad said, take it to someone who will do it for you. If you look on their website or on M3F you can find screenshots of what the program looks like.

I've been considering getting one of these and will be doing all the tuning myself should I bite the bullet and go for it. Keep in mind you're also going to want to get a Wideband to really be able to tune properly.

As for is it worth it...depends on what you've done to your car and what you plan to do to your car. If you're going to pay someone else to tune it then I'd say no, it's probably not worth it.

I see you have a CAI and a CBE, do you have headers or are you planning on getting headers? Perhaps an intake manifold? I wouldn't get an intake manifold without a way to tune the car (such as the standback). You can definitely get some gains, but I'd recommend it only if you plan on doing at least *most* of the tuning yourself. Paying for dyno/tune time is $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$.

[shu5892001]

also i have an autotragic, don't know if it can handle the I/H/E, Intake Manifold and a tune lol

[taz4432]

I have I/H/E and but I don't really know how to tune a car and like what is involved and stuff... The graph on M3F seems pretty complicated...

Like I said, you would also be needing a Wideband (the AEM kit with the A/F Gauge is the best bet and the way pretty much everyone goes) so you can monitor your Air/Fuel ratio. For an N/A car the two critical values you're going to be watching to make sure you don't blow anything up are A/F (you don't want to run too lean) and Knock. If you start getting knock you either need to retard timing or richen the mix a bit. (This is the simple version of it). '

With an N/A car there's less to be watching for but there's a lot less you can get out of it. Learning the basics of how to tune the car is not all that difficult, it will take some time though and I suggest you do a lot of reading on how the different settings affect the car differently. If you're worried but want to do it yourself then just take things slowly. There is room for forgiveness as long as you're sensible and take your time. Go out, get a lot of baselines (usually 3rd gear pulls), perhaps lower your rev limiter 500 rpm just to give you the extra peace of mind in the upper end and then slowly start changing things. Go out and do more pulls, look at the date, interpret and go from there.

It's not necessarily a hard process, it can be a long process though but honestly, you'll enjoy it if you do it yourself. You'll learn A LOT about how cars work and all the different things that affect the performance of a car and how well it runs.




Edit: As for the autotragic, you have a tranny cooler so you should be alright. You're not boosting so I wouldn't be worried, especially without an intake manifold.

[shu5892001]

Alright thanks for the advice... I'll take things slow and do some reading before I go ahead and buy one.

:)


Like I said, you would also be needing a Wideband (the AEM kit with the A/F Gauge is the best bet and the way pretty much everyone goes) so you can monitor your Air/Fuel ratio. For an N/A car the two critical values you're going to be watching to make sure you don't blow anything up are A/F (you don't want to run too lean) and Knock. If you start getting knock you either need to retard timing or richen the mix a bit. (This is the simple version of it). '

With an N/A car there's less to be watching for but there's a lot less you can get out of it. Learning the basics of how to tune the car is not all that difficult, it will take some time though and I suggest you do a lot of reading on how the different settings affect the car differently. If you're worried but want to do it yourself then just take things slowly. There is room for forgiveness as long as you're sensible and take your time. Go out, get a lot of baselines (usually 3rd gear pulls), perhaps lower your rev limiter 500 rpm just to give you the extra peace of mind in the upper end and then slowly start changing things. Go out and do more pulls, look at the date, interpret and go from there.

It's not necessarily a hard process, it can be a long process though but honestly, you'll enjoy it if you do it yourself. You'll learn A LOT about how cars work and all the different things that affect the performance of a car and how well it runs.




Edit: As for the autotragic, you have a tranny cooler so you should be alright. You're not boosting so I wouldn't be worried, especially without an intake manifold.

[iGOzoom]

I was also thinking about doing this come spring how ever are the gains noticeable or very small? I'll be adding headers as well and possibly an intake manifold.

[Donutz]

Header; singular. The question is why would you want the standback and what is your overall plan for the car. I think a lot of folks tend not to have a plan for their car mods. Think of a standback as a continous improvement tool that you use to get the most from your mods. As you add mods you might need to retune to maximize the potential gains. As for what gains you will get? No one can tell you, not in hp/tq or percentage. Every car is different; the environment is usually different, and most tunes are either unique or have different results on different cars.

[shu5892001]

I want to squeeze the most power out of my I/H/E, or possibility intake manifold in the future...


Header; singular. The question is why would you want the standback and what is your overall plan for the car. I think a lot of folks tend not to have a plan for their car mods. Think of a standback as a continous improvement tool that you use to get the most from your mods. As you add mods you might need to retune to maximize the potential gains. As for what gains you will get? No one can tell you, not in hp/tq or percentage. Every car is different; the environment is usually different, and most tunes are either unique or have different results on different cars.