Random MS3 Chat Thread

[Tokay444]

This place is funny.

[Fobio]

This place is funny.

let's chat...what do you do for a living?

[stevenma188]

:( So can only MS3 owners chat here?

[Zoom Zoom Boy]

This place is funny.

Glad we can amuse you. It is largely reciprocal.

[Tokay444]

Fobio, I'm an aerospace machinist. I program and set up CNC lathes to produce ultra high precision parts for airplanes and us military cameras which are used on the predator attack drone unmanned vehicle. They do everything from guidance, to targeting to night vision and heat sensing/infrared.
You?

[Fobio]

Fobio, I'm an aerospace machinist. I program and set up CNC lathes to produce ultra high precision parts for airplanes and us military cameras which are used on the predator attack drone unmanned vehicle. They do everything from guidance, to targeting to night vision and heat sensing/infrared.
You?

I watch other ppl's money for living, as an Investment Associate/Advisor.

I'm sure you have a lot of merits and work in a field where you're counted amongst the higher exchelon to be trusted with precision parts that ppl's lives (or the destruction of) depends on.

Sometimes, I too, wish we can all get by on our merits alone. But like the real world, nothing's perfect.

You have other parts in mind that you think will help others? Pics?

[Tokay444]

I've often thought about going back to university to get an engineer's degree, but I make enough money as it is, and I find there to be more pride in the production of a high quality part, than there may or may not be in designing one.
I have a lot of parts in mind. I'll be branching off on my own in a couple years and dong the things I want to do more than the things I have to do right now. It really is a shame I won't be able to "sell", or even gauge interest on the local forum. By that time though, I'm not sure how much of a market there will be for our platform.
Making money with other people's money always intrigued me. What happens when it goes wrong?
More pics are in the works too.

[Fobio]

I've often thought about going back to university to get an engineers degree, but I make enough money as it is, and I find there to be more pride in the production of a high quality part, than there may or may not be in designing one.
I have a lot of parts in mind. I'll be branching off on my own in a couple years and dong the things I want to do more than the things I have to do right now. It really is a shame I won't be able to "sell", or even gauge interest on the local forum. By that time though, I'm not sure how much of a market there will be for our platform.
Making money with other people's money always intrigued me. What happens when it goes wrong?

we mainly focus on stuff that are safe...when you're dealing with big buckets, you don't want any holes/leaks, nor really need to take much risks. you life should be exciting, your investments should be boring.

other than solid shifter bushings (which I run), what else specifically can you make? For example, midz97 helped me with a couple of shifter extenders...

[Tokay444]

Those would be something I'd do if people were into it.
Things like shift weights. Weighted knobs. Light weight knobs. Stuff that can be machined from bar stock, as I'm a lathe specialist(and that happens to be the department I lead).
Once I have my place of my own the sky is the limit. I would never compare myself to anyone else, but plan to see stuff like jbarone's line, and more. Maybe some more detailed custom suspension bits... But this is down the road a ways.

[Fobio]

I can help you bring some parts to market, but you can't sell anything on any forum without pics. Unlike large scale manufacturing, no one will put money up for parts unseen, esp when they haven't dealt with you before.

I'm all for helping out the local guy, so let's keep chatting. PM me your email, if you like.

When do you plan to get set up to churn these out?

[Tokay444]

Oh I would totally have pics of everything I inteded to produce, and I'd never make anything I wouldn't use myself.
For obvious reasons I wouldn't be able to run some ms6 stuff, but I would if I could.
I would have loved to gauge interest a bit longer in that other thread had someone not been on their period for the second time in a month. Wasn't selling anything. Wasn't breaking any rules. Thread got closed over pms. I guess when you're a volunteer, you really need to do your due diligence to keep the forum running the way YOU see fit for yourself.

[Zoom Zoom Boy]

Oh I would totally have pics of everything I inteded to produce, and I'd never make anything I wouldn't use myself.
For obvious reasons I wouldn't be able to run some ms6 stuff, but I would if I could.
I would have loved to gauge interest a bit longer in that other thread had someone not been on their period for the second time in a month. Wasn't selling anything. Wasn't breaking any rules. Thread got closed over pms. I guess when you're a volunteer, you really need to do your due diligence to keep the forum running the way YOU see fit for yourself.

It was closed by another mod because you couldn't resist being a sarcastic douche regarding a legitimate comment from him that you would eventually need to become a sponsor in order to sell anything on this site. He didn't shut you down at that point, but was making you aware.

In fact, had you not starting making sarcastic comments, you would have had free reign to gauge interest and probably even to do an initial order before we would have made you become a sponsor to continue. Instead, you acted like a sulky ass on your first day back after a one week vacation and so that person just shut the thread down.

You'll find that there is a direct correlation on how you will be treated on here based on how you treat others.

[Tokay444]

For those that would a true judge of character, http://www.tdotballers.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46369 here is three pages of personal feedback JUST from the gta paintball community. Still not trying to sell anything. Just wanting those that have views of me already to be fully educated on the subject.

[Tokay444]

It was closed by another mod because you couldn't resist being a sarcastic douche regarding a legitimate comment from him that you would eventually need to become a sponsor in order to sell anything on this site. He didn't shut you down at that point, but was making you aware.

In fact, had you not starting making sarcastic comments, you would have had free reign to gauge interest and probably even to do an initial order before we would have made you become a sponsor to continue. Instead, you acted like a sulky ass on your first day back after a one week vacation and so that person just shut the thread down.

You'll find that there is a direct correlation on how you will be treated on here based on how you treat others.
So are you mommy, or are you daddy? Because he must have gone crying to one of them. You'll notice, how I treat others is a direct correlation of how much I dislike them. I'm here actively trying to better the platform with my very own skills, and you're sitting there knit picking what people say.

[Zoom Zoom Boy]

For those that would a true judge of character, http://www.tdotballers.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46369 here is three pages of personal feedback JUST from the gta paintball community. Still not trying to sell anything. Just wanting those that have views of me already to be fully educated on the subject.

I'll leave this post up.

However, how you are viewed and how you treat other people on other forums is really kind of irrelevant. It is how you act and treat people on THIS SITE, that matters to us. Respect people and you will get the same in return. Have some patience and understanding, the same will be provided. Call it a quirky 'trend'.

[Fobio]

tokay444...think of these forums like a giant party at the Guvernment/Koolhaus...there's the Jungle room and the House room...TM3 is not MSF.org and I'm happy for that...just dance to a different tune depending on the room...you're still at a party bro!

[Tokay444]

I'll leave this post up.

However, how you are viewed and how you treat other people on other forums is really kind of irrelevant. It is how you act and treat people on THIS SITE, that matters to us. Respect people and you will get the same in return. Have some patience and understanding, the same will be provided. Call it a quirky 'trend'.
I'm hoping this is the last time I have to clarify or justify one of my post. Although I understand what you are saying about the way I act on THIS site, and that's fine. The thing is, I'm the same everywhere, but have proven myself to be an asset enough to where people give me the respect I've earned based on the work I've done. Not how I post. Respect is earned. Not given. I fully intend on earning that respect from the mazdaspeed demograph, by producing high quality options for the platform. The feedback thread is totally relevant in that it paints a perfect picture of how I do business. If I am going to try to establish myself as a brand, people need to know how I do business. And for someone so new, that was the perfect avenue to base me on.

[Zoom Zoom Boy]

I'm hoping this is the last time I have to clarify or justify one of my post. Although I understand what you are saying about the way I act on THIS site, and that's fine. The thing is, I'm the same everywhere, but have proven myself to be an asset enough to where people give me the respect I've earned based on the work I've done. Not how I post. Respect is earned. Not given. I fully intend on earning that respect from the mazdaspeed demograph, by producing high quality options for the platform. The feedback thread is totally relevant in that it paints a perfect picture of how I do business. If I am going to try to establish myself as a brand, people need to know how I do business. And for someone so new, that was the perfect avenue to base me on.

Yup. Last time for sure.


You'll notice, how I treat others is a direct correlation of how much I dislike them. I'm here actively trying to better the platform with my very own skills, and you're sitting there knit picking what people say.

Funny how that works the other way around too.

[CelestSpeed3]

tokay444...think of these forums like a giant party at the Guvernment/Koolhaus...there's the Jungle room and the House room...TM3 is not MSF.org and I'm happy for that...just dance to a different tune depending on the room...you're still at a party bro!

+1 Very well put.

I'm an electrician if anyone is interested. I'm rated 6th in the province according to Skills Ontario for 2010. I found it funny because last year I drove a 6 and finished 6th. Now that I drive a 3 I wonder if I'll finish 3rd. I do high voltage distribution troubleshooting and everything in between right down to a plug in your basement.

[-cj-]

Heh... High voltage troubleshooting... I hope you get it right the first time! ;)

[alhope34]

+1 Very well put.

I'm an electrician if anyone is interested. I'm rated 6th in the province according to Skills Ontario for 2010. I found it funny because last year I drove a 6 and finished 6th. Now that I drive a 3 I wonder if I'll finish 3rd. I do high voltage distribution troubleshooting and everything in between right down to a plug in your basement.

What company do you work for? My cousin does sort of quality control of people's work for Hydro One. Kind of like a supervisor but kind of not he told me, haha.

[MajesticBlueNTO]

not exactly.
Noob asks for help
...
member starts telling off mods
dumb ass gets a one week vacation

Moral of the story - don't be an A$$hole, and don't flame mods.


It was closed by another mod because you couldn't resist being a sarcastic douche regarding a legitimate comment from him that you would eventually need to become a sponsor in order to sell anything on this site. He didn't shut you down at that point, but was making you aware.

In fact, had you not starting making sarcastic comments, you would have had free reign to gauge interest and probably even to do an initial order before we would have made you become a sponsor to continue. Instead, you acted like a sulky ass on your first day back after a one week vacation and so that person just shut the thread down.

You'll find that there is a direct correlation on how you will be treated on here based on how you treat others.


I'll leave this post up.

However, how you are viewed and how you treat other people on other forums is really kind of irrelevant. It is how you act and treat people on THIS SITE, that matters to us. Respect people and you will get the same in return. Have some patience and understanding, the same will be provided. Call it a quirky 'trend'.

so i take it this is a case of 'do as i say, not as i do' (http://www.torontomazda3.ca/forum/showthread.php?53398-Unlicensed-mechanics-working-on-cars-at-delaerships&p=766556&viewfull=1#post766556)

[cwp_sedan]

so i take it this is a case of 'do as i say, not as i do' (http://www.torontomazda3.ca/forum/showthread.php?53398-Unlicensed-mechanics-working-on-cars-at-delaerships&p=766556&viewfull=1#post766556)

See normally I would delete this and the rest since it has absolutely NOTHING to do with "random MS3 chatter", but then I would be an anal mod by over cleaning yet another thread.

I'm not saying that you are wrong since there was a lot of language and tone that was unnecessary in the thread you linked to, but you are trying to connect a problem with a member who was problematic to someone who lashed out. These incidents are completely different even though both should be addressed.

If you think there is a problem with the way things are being handled on TM3, please submit a complaint. You have been here long enough to see what goes on and how things are dealt with. In most cases we are fair. If things get out of hand it's typically NOT because of an oversized ego of a mod. We (the mod team) may not always be right or handle a situation perfectly, but all we can do is try to do our best.

Instead of cluttering multiple threads with this attempt to show how a mod is wrong, report it. Or perhaps create another thread for discussion.

[CelestSpeed3]

What company do you work for? My cousin does sort of quality control of people's work for Hydro One. Kind of like a supervisor but kind of not he told me, haha.

I work for Smith & Long Ltd.

Your cousin will tell you that high voltage is technically anything over 750V, and most commercial installations are 600V. Most of my work is on 600V distribution and I also do transformer testing on transformers up to 13800V, the regular household voltage is 240V just to put that into perspective. I get to wear the bomb suit at work when doing stuff like that, just in case. I think it's just a due diligence thing. If something does happen my safety manuals for all my equipment says I can expect 2nd degree burns all over my body but I won'd be dead. I'm honestly not sure what's worse. Just remember the next time you turn on that light or your computer that electricity comes from somewhere and there are people like me making it possible. When I hear people get all pissed off about a blackout it's because Hydro needed to shut something down so someone could work safely. Think really hard if watching TV or going on the internet is more important than someone's life the next time the power goes out. Enough of my rant.

[alhope34]

Yea, my cousin mostly works at transformer stations dealing with 125 to 500kv.

[Fobio]

See normally I would delete this and the rest since it has absolutely NOTHING to do with "random MS3 chatter", but then I would be an anal mod by over cleaning yet another thread.

I'm not saying that you are wrong since there was a lot of language and tone that was unnecessary in the thread you linked to, but you are trying to connect a problem with a member who was problematic to someone who lashed out. These incidents are completely different even though both should be addressed.

If you think there is a problem with the way things are being handled on TM3, please submit a complaint. You have been here long enough to see what goes on and how things are dealt with. In most cases we are fair. If things get out of hand it's typically NOT because of an oversized ego of a mod. We (the mod team) may not always be right or handle a situation perfectly, but all we can do is try to do our best.

Instead of cluttering multiple threads with this attempt to show how a mod is wrong, report it. Or perhaps create another thread for discussion.

I'm glad you have opened this up for discussion Ryan...good job!

In fact, I think this discussion is pertinent to the MS3 sections and indeed in the appropriate thread.

Personally, I believe that just like the MOD team isn't out to "get" anyone, neither are the members disagreeing with the MOD team on purpose. I think what was witnessed in the MS3 section with regards to Tokay444 and other noobs is a manifestation of other ongoing issues...to name one person or a group is too narrow a scope.

Let me raise a few of those issues.

A few older guys I have met offline have told me that they felt TM3 was infested by "a bunch of punks". I laughed it off as them being older but they told me that they were basically encouraged to GTFO by the MOD team (not singling anyone out on the team)...one example is a member called KeithB.

So now, we have Tokay444...an obviously older, technical guy with very little patience for BS. Just like MBNTO says, I'm not sticking up for him, but let's look at the other side of the issue...each and everyday, we try to disseminate truths and helpful advise on these very walls...the last thing we need is a technical thread, where half of it is spent explaining to someone that we don't drive the same car, and why it's different. Just like everyday advise about life, you gotta back up what you say, and if you can't do that with personal experience, you're just creating more noise and taking time and evergy away from the cause: helping others.

Yet those individuals that take time and energy away from the very work that we do are applauded and patted on their backs for all the "funny" disruptions that they consistently deliver...am I missing something here?

TM3 has blossomed nicely, and I'm happy that its members get along not just from the technical information shared, but also the comaraderie and frienships formed on and off line. However, it just seems lately, that focus is turning TM3 into some sort of popularity club and those who don't fit the mould...can GTFO?

Should we all be know-it-all 20-yr olds posting T&A pics, and high-fiving each other in the sightings thread and the Friday thread, while basically trolling and posting, "Hey my buddy drives a 400whp turbo'd Civic...maybe you should go get V-tak'd instead..." in the MS3 section...and most likely in a suspension thread...lol...

Or "Hey, why don't you MS3's get this or that intake...it doesn't matter if it makes power, it makes my car sound so cool..."...then cry when they get back-handed.

My suggestion: colour code or auto-tag threads started in the MS3 section. Like any forum, anyone can comment and share their opinion, at your own peril.

[alhope34]

^^ Very well put.

[S.F.W.]

Couple quick comments on Fobio's post. What has not been posted publicly is Tokay44's pm's back and forth with two separate moderators. The first issue was his thread about creating products FS. This was effectively him trying to gauge interest. A moderator correctly pointed out to him, that should he proceed down this path, he would need to become a sponsor. The plan was to leave his post/thread and allow him to gauge interest prior to asking him to spend the money on sponsorship. However, he responded in a very rude and sarcastic manner to the moderator by saying "Look out. Here come the fuzz". The moderator then pm'd him with some clarification, and again was met with a hostile and rude response. His constant theme was the moderators and members of TM3 had to earn his respect. Unfortunately, it does not work that way. We expect all members to be respectful of other members, and moderators. If a member has been on the forum for a longer period of time, we try and cut some slack where possible.
At that point we shut down his thread.
He then created another post, saying he had not broken any rules, and insulting the moderator again, despite being previously warned that day to please be a little more respectful. As well, he had already served a 7 day ban for similar behaviour. In fact he had broken several rules.
On top of everything else he essentially threatened a different moderator saying "see you at the next meet buddy". He was clearly trying to intimidate the moderator with that message.
Thus, it was not just one or two incidents that lead to Tokay44 being permanently banned, it was a repeated pattern of behaviour, and repeated and ongoing rules violations.
As for the idea of "colour code or auto-tag threads started in the MS3 section. Like any forum, anyone can comment and share their opinion, at your own peril." . I am very much against that. Members who have Speed3's shoudl not be subjected to a different set of rules, simply because of the cars they drive. Torontomazda3 is founded on members helping other members, sharing knowledge learned, and a common interest. If we allow the MS3 section to become a post at your own risk section, that would be a very intimidating entrance for new members to this forum.
That would ultimately lead to a negative perception of the TM3/MS3 community, and thus TM3 as a whole.

[Fobio]

As for the idea of "colour code or auto-tag threads started in the MS3 section. Like any forum, anyone can comment and share their opinion, at your own peril." . I am very much against that. Members who have Speed3's shoudl not be subjected to a different set of rules, simply because of the cars they drive. Torontomazda3 is founded on members helping other members, sharing knowledge learned, and a common interest. If we allow the MS3 section to become a post at your own risk section, that would be a very intimidating entrance for new members to this forum.
That would ultimately lead to a negative perception of the TM3/MS3 community, and thus TM3 as a whole.

I don't see how "road signs" that help the noobs steer away from the deep end is a bad thing...they do it at the local pool! Most of them in condo's also tell you that no lifeguards are present...watch your kids.

So from what you're saying, to protect the noobs, let's keep the life guards around the deep end?

I don't think this is a matter of MS3 vs the world...as this issue has been framed from time and memorial on TM3. I'm suggesting methods to keep the life guards looking good while keeping their work load minimized and prioritized evenly across TM3, as opposed to fueling the need to excessively moderate MS3 sections for the sake of the noobs but not for the sake of the guy who's in here to share and get at direct, uncoloured technical info?

With respect to Tokay444, I was not aware that he was making personal threats at the mods. Personally speaking, I can see where he rubs ppl the wrong way, such as some of his posts on MSF.org, and posting on TM3 as if he's on MSF.org. Obviously,we're not social workers, but in the future, there may also be opportunities to help "reform" some of these guys, who otherwise, can add tremendous value to forum. In that sense, the comaraderie and friendship that we can provide to these individuals may be greater than any technical advise we can share with them.

In the meantime, life goes on until the next anomaly comes along...

EDIT: The colour code thing...has much wider implication than the MS3's...as the GEN2 proliferate, with inevitability of another Gen coming, this may also be a good way to organize TM3 as technical and appearance info begin to branch away from a common model.

[Zoom Zoom Boy]

Fobio,

Regardless of his actual profession, where exactly are you deriving this notion that Tokay444 was a 'techie' and had a wealth of great info and "tremendous value" to contribute to the TM3 community and the MS3 forum specifically?

First, he had zero interest in this community, or any respect for any of the people in it, including the mod team. He demonstrated this time and time again and even said it directly, despite several warnings.

Second, he essentially post whored the MS3 threads with one sentence nonsense adding little in the way of any value. If it went beyond one or two sentences, it was mainly to disagree with other members and beat them over the head as to why his opinion was correct and superior and to belittle anyone who heaven forbid, would disagree with him.

I encourage you to go to his member profile and read every single one of his posts on this site and tell me if he was contributing in any way shape or form to the betterment of TM3 or the MS3.

I'm sorry, but as Ami already pointed out, there was a lot of PM and non-posted dialogue that happened as well. End result is the guy was a complete douchebag and we don't need him on this site, end of story.

[MajesticBlueNTO]

...
On top of everything else he essentially threatened a different moderator saying "see you at the next meet buddy". He was clearly trying to intimidate the moderator with that message.
Thus, it was not just one or two incidents that lead to Tokay44 being permanently banned, it was a repeated pattern of behaviour, and repeated and ongoing rules violations.


tokay hung himself then.

however, after what transpired in that case, to have another moderator respond in a disrespectful manner to a member is hypocritical to the rules the mod team are trying to uphold.



As for the idea of "colour code or auto-tag threads started in the MS3 section. Like any forum, anyone can comment and share their opinion, at your own peril." . I am very much against that. Members who have Speed3's shoudl not be subjected to a different set of rules, simply because of the cars they drive. Torontomazda3 is founded on members helping other members, sharing knowledge learned, and a common interest. If we allow the MS3 section to become a post at your own risk section, that would be a very intimidating entrance for new members to this forum.
That would ultimately lead to a negative perception of the TM3/MS3 community, and thus TM3 as a whole.

Fobio was referring to threads like this (http://www.torontomazda3.ca/forum/showthread.php?53137-Need-intake-advice&p=761427&viewfull=1#post761427) where Mazdy may have been trying to be helpful but posted in the wrong section.

There have been other times where others (non-MS3 owners) have posted a pointless response to a technical question in a MS3-specific thread, only to state that they didn't know it was a MS3-specific question because they only view the "New Posts" and don't pay attention to what section that new post is in...if they can't read, then maybe colours would help them differentiate the section

there is nothing wrong with non-MS3 owners posting in the MS3 section; however, when the thread is asking a specific technical question, the non-MS3 owner should not post gibberish just to increase their post count to achieve some sort of relevance.

[S.F.W.]

there is nothing wrong with non-MS3 owners posting in the MS3 section; however, when the thread is asking a specific technical question, the non-MS3 owner should not post gibberish just to increase their post count to achieve some sort of relevance.

This I agree is a challenge/problem. The mod team is in the beginning stages of a composition change. Once we have a few changes over the next few weeks, there are a few areas we will be focusing on more regularly. One being members generally posting off topic comments in technical threads. This occurs in both the MS3 section, and regular 3 sections.
In the interim, I will do my best to personally keep an eye on MS3 technical threads to keep them clean. If I do miss something, or you feel something should be addressed/cleaned up, feel free to pm me or any other mod you see online.

[S.F.W.]

I Obviously,we're not social workers, but in the future, there may also be opportunities to help "reform" some of these guys, who otherwise, can add tremendous value to forum. In that sense, the comaraderie and friendship that we can provide to these individuals may be greater than any technical advise we can share with them.



In terms of reforming members, this is always a possibility. There have been occasions were banned individuals were contrite, and apologetic, and sent an email to the webmaster account. In those situations, the moderators have discussed, and usually brought the members back with another chance.

[Fobio]

Fobio,

Regardless of his actual profession, where exactly are you deriving this notion that Tokay444 was a 'techie' and had a wealth of great info and "tremendous value" to contribute to the TM3 community and the MS3 forum specifically?

First, he had zero interest in this community, or any respect for any of the people in it, including the mod team. He demonstrated this time and time again and even said it directly, despite several warnings.

Second, he essentially post whored the MS3 threads with one sentence nonsense adding little in the way of any value. If it went beyond one or two sentences, it was mainly to disagree with other members and beat them over the head as to why his opinion was correct and superior and to belittle anyone who heaven forbid, would disagree with him.

I encourage you to go to his member profile and read every single one of his posts on this site and tell me if he was contributing in any way shape or form to the betterment of TM3 or the MS3.

I'm sorry, but as Ami already pointed out, there was a lot of PM and non-posted dialogue that happened as well. End result is the guy was a complete douchebag and we don't need him on this site, end of story.

ZZB...may I call you Tim like the rest of TM3 does... like they've met you in real life?...lol...

He, that shall no longer be named, like I said, was just the catalyst that brought to light some on-going issues. (You know Tokay444 isn't me right?) I'm not defending his actions. He did not engage the board respectfully and when cautioned turned it up a notch to the powers that be. I get that.

My point is that having established ourselves as the current fastest production Mazda, it is inevitable you'll have some egos in this forum, like any others. To put it bluntly, Tokay444 was posting like he was posting to THE INTERNET, as if we're all robots. He might not have resorted to all the "respect" stuff if he was engaged initially like a person..."Hey man, how's it going..."

But let us move on...this isn't about HIM.


This I agree is a challenge/problem. The mod team is in the beginning stages of a composition change. Once we have a few changes over the next few weeks, there are a few areas we will be focusing on more regularly. One being members generally posting off topic comments in technical threads. This occurs in both the MS3 section, and regular 3 sections.
In the interim, I will do my best to personally keep an eye on MS3 technical threads to keep them clean. If I do miss something, or you feel something should be addressed/cleaned up, feel free to pm me or any other mod you see online.

...and most who believe that the MOD team are the best of us, may also take the actions and the words of MOD with more weight...something to think about now for noob mods, with more power comes more responsibilities...and we'll be more than happy to self-police, if you guys need the help!

[Zoom Zoom Boy]

ZZB...may I call you Tim like the rest of TM3 does... like they've met you in real life?...lol...

He, that shall no longer be named, like I said, was just the catalyst that brought to light some on-going issues. (You know Tokay444 isn't me right?) I'm not defending his actions. He did not engage the board respectfully and when cautioned turned it up a notch to the powers that be. I get that.

My point is that having established ourselves as the current fastest production Mazda, it is inevitable you'll have some egos in this forum, like any others. To put it bluntly, Tokay444 was posting like he was posting to THE INTERNET, as if we're all robots. He might not have resorted to all the "respect" stuff if he was engaged initially like a person..."Hey man, how's it going..."

But let us move on...this isn't about HIM.



...and most who believe that the MOD team are the best of us, may also take the actions and the words of MOD with more weight...something to think about now for noob mods, with more power comes more responsibilities...and we'll be more than happy to self-police, if you guys need the help!

Fair enough Vince. I'll drop it regarding Tokay. Just not a fan of him being used as a lightning rod for other issues.

[-cj-]

Not to change the subject, but I was meaning to post this earlier... Anyone with 2010 MS3 stock wheels should definitely go after market. I'm back on my Work wheels for the first time since getting tuned and wow... The 2010's are heavy as hell!

[Fobio]

Not to change the subject, but I was meaning to post this earlier... Anyone with 2010 MS3 stock wheels should definitely go after market. I'm back on my Work wheels for the first time since getting tuned and wow... The 2010's are heavy as hell!

good thing jerry...I was gonna call out anyone who's still on winters on their feline inclinations...lol...

[-cj-]

Come on man, don't judge me! I've been busy! :(

I'm glad I'm off 'em tho! Can't wait till the next stage lol.

[Iceman_F1]

Finally feel comfortable posting in this section. As I said in the latest purchase thread on Friday, I just got a 2007 MS3. Taking a bit getting used to (never drove manual before) but looking forward to reading up on your guys experience with the car.

That being said, if anyone is ever out by the west end (Burlington/Oakville) and would be willing to give some pointers on getting the most out of it, I'd appreciate it :)

[Elusivellama]

Should have dropped by Krown Lakeshore!

but seriously, maybe get it Krowned if it hasn't been already. RMM is a must-have upgrade on these cars too. Did your speed 3 come with a fresh oil change from the dealer (synthetic 5W-30, not Mobil One)?

[Iceman_F1]

Should have dropped by Krown Lakeshore!

but seriously, maybe get it Krowned if it hasn't been already. RMM is a must-have upgrade on these cars too. Did your speed 3 come with a fresh oil change from the dealer (synthetic 5W-30, not Mobil One)?

Yeah, had a kinda annoying headache that early on Saturday plus still wasn't too confident learning the car yet :chuckle

Might have to wait on getting krowned and will have to look at RMM. I'm trying to get used to it stock first before doing anything major.

I'll have to email the dealer to find out about that one but it's due in terms of KM soon anyways so if it hadn't, I'll probably do it before I go to Ohio in June.

[Elusivellama]

Is the clutch takeup point for the 1st gen the same as the 2nd gen? I mean, did you find it a bit abrupt at first? For Krown, it's best to do it in the early spring when most corrosion really starts (warmer temps, wetter weather), and as for RMM it makes a significant difference in the way the car shifts. So you can get used to it while it's still in stock form, but you'll find it will feel like it shifts better after the RMM is in.

Yeah, I'd probably get the oil change sooner than later, it doesn't matter if the car is 'new' like mine, or used like yours. When I got my speed 3 from the dealer, it was stated that an oil change had been done on it. I checked the oil dipstick and the oil did look fresh, but it was still the semi-synthetic stuff mind you. I still intended to change the oil after 1500km, and in doing so brought it to Jimmy. We found out that a factory FoMoCo filter (black filter) was still there - implying that the factory FoMoCo filter had been on the car since its build date over a year ago. Unless they have a supply of fresh factory filters sitting around (which I doubt), I think they simply drained the oil and replaced it with new oil. It just seems to me that they should have replaced the filter, knowing the build date on my car. Oh, and the PDI guys missed 2 beehives - one in the intercooler hood scoop, another in the front passenger door hinges.

Go read the oil thread on here and go with one of the listed oils (I use pennzoil platinum 5W-30 because it has been shown to resist fuel dilution) and a good oil filter. More stuff off the top of my head...brand of gas is a personal choice, but I am now using Shell V-power for the 0% ethanol and the supposed nitrogen enriched cleaning stuff, which is also supposed to be better for direct-injected engines. Oh and add yourself to the MS3 registry!

[Iceman_F1]

Is the clutch takeup point for the 1st gen the same as the 2nd gen? I mean, did you find it a bit abrupt at first? For Krown, it's best to do it in the early spring when most corrosion really starts (warmer temps, wetter weather), and as for RMM it makes a significant difference in the way the car shifts. So you can get used to it while it's still in stock form, but you'll find it will feel like it shifts better after the RMM is in.

Yeah, I'd probably get the oil change sooner than later, it doesn't matter if the car is 'new' like mine, or used like yours. When I got my speed 3 from the dealer, it was stated that an oil change had been done on it. I checked the oil dipstick and the oil did look fresh, but it was still the semi-synthetic stuff mind you. I still intended to change the oil after 1500km, and in doing so brought it to Jimmy. We found out that a factory FoMoCo filter (black filter) was still there - implying that the factory FoMoCo filter had been on the car since its build date over a year ago. Unless they have a supply of fresh factory filters sitting around (which I doubt), I think they simply drained the oil and replaced it with new oil. It just seems to me that they should have replaced the filter, knowing the build date on my car. Oh, and the PDI guys missed 2 beehives - one in the intercooler hood scoop, another in the front passenger door hinges.

Go read the oil thread on here and go with one of the listed oils (I use pennzoil platinum 5W-30 because it has been shown to resist fuel dilution) and a good oil filter. More stuff off the top of my head...brand of gas is a personal choice, but I am now using Shell V-power for the 0% ethanol and the supposed nitrogen enriched cleaning stuff, which is also supposed to be better for direct-injected engines. Oh and add yourself to the MS3 registry!

Hmmm...good info. Will take a look into it all. Though I need to cut off spending for a bit to get a handle on things (unless stuff I will be selling soon sells fast).

I used to use 0w30 in my 08.5 GT and was happy with that. Might use that again in this one. Gas, I use PetroCan as it's easy access to me and with my citibank petro canada mastercard, I get 2cents off a liter which helps a bit.

Not sure if the clutch takeup point is the same. This is my first manual car so I'm learning in the first place so not sure how much help I'd be in that respect :chuckle

Trying to get a handle on things...too much info trying to learn all at once. Trying to ease myself into this :chuckle

[Elusivellama]

Hmmm...good info. Will take a look into it all. Though I need to cut off spending for a bit to get a handle on things (unless stuff I will be selling soon sells fast).

I used to use 0w30 in my 08.5 GT and was happy with that. Might use that again in this one. Gas, I use PetroCan as it's easy access to me and with my citibank petro canada mastercard, I get 2cents off a liter which helps a bit.


As long as the 0W-30 is a good synthetic oil (not Mobil One), I think you'll be ok. I wouldn't use dino or semi-synth for a turbo car. I have a costco amex, 2% off shell gas purchase is about equal to 2cents or higher per litre (since a percentage off gas purchases will ramp up as gas prices increase, while a fixed 2cents/litre will always remain 2 cents). I just filled up with 35L last night and paid $51. That's $1.02 I'll get as cashback. $1.02 / 35 = 0.029, which is 2.9 cents per litre I saved :)

As a side note, I calculated 9.7L/100km with 90% highway, the remaining 10% spent in the city, with a fair bit of spirited boosting at unnamed locations :P



Not sure if the clutch takeup point is the same. This is my first manual car so I'm learning in the first place so not sure how much help I'd be in that respect :chuckle

Trying to get a handle on things...too much info trying to learn all at once. Trying to ease myself into this :chuckle

Yeah, that's usually the way it works, I drove the car stock for a couple of months before upgrading the RMM, and soon a CS SRI will be here and installed for summer.

[Iceman_F1]

As long as the 0W-30 is a good synthetic oil (not Mobil One), I think you'll be ok. I wouldn't use dino or semi-synth for a turbo car. I have a costco amex, 2% off shell gas purchase is about equal to 2cents or higher per litre (since a percentage off gas purchases will ramp up as gas prices increase, while a fixed 2cents/litre will always remain 2 cents). I just filled up with 35L last night and paid $51. That's $1.02 I'll get as cashback. $1.02 / 35 = 0.029, which is 2.9 cents per litre I saved :)

Yeah, that's usually the way it works, I drove the car stock for a couple of months before upgrading the RMM, and soon a CS SRI will be here and installed for summer.

0w30 is the German Castrol...so no, not Mobile One and is a full synthetic.

Still, 2 cents off a liter is still something at least. Just filled up this morning so I can gauge mileage vs my old 3. I figure if I get used to stock, I can see the difference (if any) adding mods does. Though based on my old shift knob in my auto, I know a bit heavier of a shift knob might benefit me...though still looking.

[Elusivellama]

I think that if you don't use boost at all, and shift out of 1st/2nd/3rd as soon as safely possible (without lugging the engine, you'll get a feel for it) you'll see very similar or slightly better fuel economy despite the car having a turbo.

I used to have a 2007 Mazda 3 GT, and my in-town fuel economy is very similar, or at least I don't notice the Speed 3 guzzling gas at a greater rate than my old car. They are both 2.3L engines after all, and the Speed 3's is direct-injected. Cruising around town in 4th is where it's at. Using cruise control on the highway is also a good idea.

But make sure you tap into the Dark Side every now and then, your car begs for it!

Yeah, I understand your reasoning, get a feel for stock and see what difference mods make. I know that when I got the CPE RMM installed, the vibes in-cabin went up and the A/C shook the steering wheel. It has since broken in and I wouldn't have it any other way.

Same for the JBR knob, the stock is pretty decent but at 265 grams it is a bit light. The JBR looks very much at home in my car (not a gaudy MOMO knob with useless little scalloped cutouts and design elements), the bevelled top and plastic-covered shift pattern are comfortable, and the circumferential rings add grip so that it doesn't slip out of your fingers.

[Iceman_F1]

I think that if you don't use boost at all, and shift out of 1st/2nd/3rd as soon as safely possible (without lugging the engine, you'll get a feel for it) you'll see very similar or slightly better fuel economy despite the car having a turbo.

I used to have a 2007 Mazda 3 GT, and my in-town fuel economy is very similar, or at least I don't notice the Speed 3 guzzling gas at a greater rate than my old car. They are both 2.3L engines after all, and the Speed 3's is direct-injected. Cruising around town in 4th is where it's at. Using cruise control on the highway is also a good idea.

But make sure you tap into the Dark Side every now and then, your car begs for it!

Yeah, I understand your reasoning, get a feel for stock and see what difference mods make. I know that when I got the CPE RMM installed, the vibes in-cabin went up and the A/C shook the steering wheel. It has since broken in and I wouldn't have it any other way.

Same for the JBR knob, the stock is pretty decent but at 265 grams it is a bit light. The JBR looks very much at home in my car (not a gaudy MOMO knob with useless little scalloped cutouts and design elements), the bevelled top and plastic-covered shift pattern are comfortable, and the circumferential rings add grip so that it doesn't slip out of your fingers.

Yeah, depending on the speed, I've been finding the right gear I think. 6th most of the drive on the highway, 5th if it dips a bit too low in speed, 4th most other places. So far my issues are the occasional stalling when starting as I haven't fully gotten the feel of it yet (that and the car jerking when starting when I don't stall it). Getting the hang of it pretty well considering I only really started learning Friday afternoon.

That said, I do enjoy tapping into the dark side so no issues there once I get the hang of things.

Might just break down and get that gear knob anyways. But I noticed it had a warning when first installing it...did you have any issues? I looked online to see the instructions and the fact it warns you you could damage things if you don't work it back and forth well enough is making me double guess myself. Unless you'd want to help me with this and then you could see the difference between 1st and 2nd gen? :D

[Elusivellama]

I wouldn't worry at all about the warning as long as you follow the instructions carefully. If you simply put the aluminum adapter on the shifter rod and start wrenching it into place without using oil, and without working it back and forth, the heat buildup and the aluminum shavings could cause damage.

It's very easy, really, and there is no danger if you do it properly. Get some machine oil (I used sewing machine oil, or something equivalent) and put a little bit on the inside of the adapter, then work the oil into the threads. Screw the adapter onto the shifter rod by hand until you encounter resistance. Put a drop of oil into the top of the adapter. Using your 6 point wrench, start tightening the adapter until you start to reach resistance, then back it off by about half a turn. Repeat this process a few times, adding new oil to the top of the adapter hole after a little while. You'll want to bring a paper towel because you want to keep adding oil constantly, you're cutting new grooves into the aluminum adapter and the oil is essential for lubrication.

The ultimate goal is to get the adapter down on the shifter rod *just* low enough that the top of the shifter rod pokes out a little bit over the adapter hole. This will take about 10 - 20 min, carefully working the adapter back and forth. There is nothing complicated at all about this procedure, just take your time to do it carefully and you'll be ok.

Once the adapter is in the correct position, start turning the jamb nut on the knob until it is all the way inside, then use a big flathead screwdriver to turn it the rest of the way. Screw the shift knob onto the adapter until it is snug, but do NOT use any hard pressure to tighten it. The jamb nut on the inside controls how far down you can screw the shift knob, and you will need to adjust it one way or the other in order to get the shift pattern lined up in the final position. Once it is in the final tilted position (tilted up to the right by a little bit), complete the procedure by applying hard pressure to tighten the knob into place, which aligns the shift pattern and locks the jamb nut against the adapter.

Honestly, JBR's instructions are extremely straightforward, and his warning is a disclaimer against people who simply tighten the adapter without working it back and forth.

[alhope34]

if anyone is ever out by the west end (Burlington/Oakville) and would be willing to give some pointers on getting the most out of it, I'd appreciate it :)


Shift at 5500 rpm if you're stock or else the car will fall flat on it's face.

[-cj-]

Has anyone bought any CP-E SRI intakes that they haven't installed yet, or are looking to get rid of? I'm in need of an intake ASAP and if you bought one and haven't installed it yet, can I buy it off/order you a replacement?

[-cj-]

Crisis averted for now. =) No longer need the intake... Thanks to everyone that PM'd me!

[Fobio]

who's interested in some numebrs from a local MS3 with a GT3071?

[breakfasteatre]

yeahoo!

[-cj-]

Hah, I just noticed your comment Fobio ;)

By the way guys, is anyone parting ways with a Cobb or CP-E cat-back exhaust??

[horto]

Just came back from a "spirited" drive along Forks of the Credit. Some honduh boys were out, along with a Porsche 911 GT3 *drool*. The one hairpin there (downhill) is insane. I had no idea it was so tight. What a blast to drive. We need to cruise up there...

I even found a good icecream place to stop at!

[alhope34]

Just came back from a "spirited" drive along Forks of the Credit. Some honduh boys were out, along with a Porsche 911 GT3 *drool*. The one hairpin there (downhill) is insane. I had no idea it was so tight. What a blast to drive. We need to cruise up there...


Lol, I almost drag my knee on that corner coming back up the hill on my buddy's 250 (bike). Also the corner just on the top on the way up where the cement barriers are. People like to cut that corner at the top coming down the hill towards the hairpin in cars, though. Gets my heart going when I'm in a full lean a couple inches from the ground and I see someone in a car coming right at me who can't stay inside the lines.

[Elusivellama]

Just saw another red gen1 ms3 appear at my work parking lot today. There was originally just one, and I actually took a stroll around the parking lot to make sure that it was a different one. It had different alloys than the first, did the wheels change between model years for gen1?

[Iceman_F1]

Just saw another red gen1 ms3 appear at my work parking lot today. There was originally just one, and I actually took a stroll around the parking lot to make sure that it was a different one. It had different alloys than the first, did the wheels change between model years for gen1?

Nope. 07-09 all had the same stock wheels. Only thing is if the person changed the rims. I know breakfasteatre got S.F.W.'s 2010 speed3 rims but he has a red gen1.

[MajesticBlueNTO]

Nope. 07-09 all had the same stock wheels. Only thing is if the person changed the rims. I know breakfasteatre got S.F.W.'s 2010 speed3 rims but he has a red gen1.

08.5 to 09 had the "shinka" finish.

[Fobio]

Change of direction...

if 266g/s = 325whp...what do you guys think 292g/s would equate to?

[Elusivellama]

Yeah I looked closely just now, they're aftermarket.

Btw, the JBR shift knob is correctly installed, it's the stock rod that's the source of the slight play. If you hold the very base if the rod (there's a circular collar right at the very bottom) and twist the knob gently, you'll see what I mean. In other words it's fine. I'm considering JBR shift bushings next, to improve the shift feel and make it less sloppy.

[Iceman_F1]

08.5 to 09 had the "shinka" finish.

Hmmm...Good point. The style didn't change.

[Iceman_F1]

Change of direction...

if 266g/s = 325whp...what do you guys think 292g/s would equate to?

Well, I'm probably completely off...but if it's linear and you do 325/266 you get ~1.2218...so 292 * 1.2218 = ~356.7656

Whether that's right or not, don't care. Just random guessing based off random math...

[Fobio]

so 292 * 1.2218 = ~356.7656


that's what we're hoping... ;)

give or take 6.7656 whp...lol...

[fywdyl]

Change of direction...

if 266g/s = 325whp...what do you guys think 292g/s would equate to?

Ricer math:

292g/s = 357whp, assuming linear relationship.

lol, iceman beat me to it!

[MajesticBlueNTO]

Change of direction...

if 266g/s = 325whp...what do you guys think 292g/s would equate to?

i'm gonna get all nerdy again :P

assuming that 266 / 325 = 292 / x ..... x = 356.7 ~ 357whp? :P

[Iceman_F1]

Ricer math:

292g/s = 357whp, assuming linear relationship.

lol, iceman beat me to it!

LOL...Ricer math is the best kind of math!

[MajesticBlueNTO]

Ricer math:

292g/s = 357whp, assuming linear relationship.

lol, iceman beat me to it!

ok, here's some non-ricer math to back things up :)

according to Garrett's site (http://www.turbobygarrett.com/turbobygarrett/tech_center/turbo_tech103.html), "What is my mass flow rate? As a very general rule, turbocharged gasoline engines will generate 9.5-10.5 horsepower (as measured at the flywheel) for each lb/min of airflow"

converting 266 g/s into lbs/min is 35.186 lbs/min ....325 / 35.186 = 9.2367 conversion from lbs/min to whp

292 g/s is 38.625 lbs/min .... 38.625 lbs/min * 9.2367 = 356.77 whp ... ~357 whp ;)

[Fobio]

ok, here's some non-ricer math to back things up :)

according to Garrett's site (http://www.turbobygarrett.com/turbobygarrett/tech_center/turbo_tech103.html), "What is my mass flow rate? As a very general rule, turbocharged gasoline engines will generate 9.5-10.5 horsepower (as measured at the flywheel) for each lb/min of airflow"

converting 266 g/s into lbs/min is 35.186 lbs/min ....325 / 35.186 = 9.2367 conversion from lbs/min to whp

292 g/s is 38.625 lbs/min .... 38.625 lbs/min * 9.2367 = 356.77 whp ... ~357 whp ;)

fack...no shit eh!

I gotta drive this beast myself soon time...

[-cj-]

Wow, great information posted right there! Just saw this thread.

I can't wait to dyno it again after your changes... The car seems completely different now. Getting on the highway had me grinning ear to ear ... ;)

[horto]

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/248789_10150605482135013_514825012_18612462_769062 1_n.jpg

I picked up a hitchhiker on the Gardiner WB today. Brand new Hankooks too. Ugh.

Also who's making 357whp? CJ? I wanna go for a ride!!

[loki]

Wow, great information posted right there! Just saw this thread.

I can't wait to dyno it again after your changes... The car seems completely different now. Getting on the highway had me grinning ear to ear ... ;)

Sob.....

[-cj-]

LOL...

$5 rides to help me finance my project?? :( (Who am I kidding, it was worth it in the end)

Horto: I had the same thing happen to me two summers ago... Brand new Falken tires... That sucks man!

[fywdyl]

Was the hitchhiker good looking at least?

j/k, sucks man, do you think you can get that fixed?

[horto]

j/k, sucks man, do you think you can get that fixed?

Local tire shop said no. Good news though, I called Discount Tire Direct (where I originally ordered the tires) and they are sending me out a replacement free of charge. Awesome customer service.

[-cj-]

Wow! That's unheard of... Very impressive.

[optiklenz13]

I agree, that's something else!! Wow, Mike. I guess you owe each every MS3 owner coffee for getting a replacement tire for free. :chuckle

[MajesticBlueNTO]

Local tire shop said no. Good news though, I called Discount Tire Direct (where I originally ordered the tires) and they are sending me out a replacement free of charge. Awesome customer service.

nice! did you purchase Discount Tire's Certificate for Replacement (http://www.discounttiredirect.com/certsMoreInfo.html)?

[horto]

funny thing is no, i didn't buy the certificate... (they also didn't ask if I did). but shhhh, don't tell anyone. just go buy tires from them! :thumbsup they price match too!

[fywdyl]

That's awesome! Things are looking up again!

[alhope34]

So my MS3 is going to be sitting in the underground parking for a while. Quite a while. Probably at least 2.5 years. I was going to leave the battery unhooked and put my winter tires on because they are toast anyway, I don't care if they flat spot. I was also going to turn on the car every week or two, let it warm up fully, drive it around the underground a bit just to get things moving.

Does anyone have any special advice on what I can do to keep it in optimal running condition for when I decide to insure it again? If all goes to plan it should be off insurance by June 14th. It will be sitting there for 2.5 years because that is the remainder of the loan on the car. I plan to insure and drive it again once it is all paid off.

[laksman91]

So my MS3 is going to be sitting in the underground parking for a while. Quite a while. Probably at least 2.5 years. I was going to leave the battery unhooked and put my winter tires on because they are toast anyway, I don't care if they flat spot. I was also going to turn on the car every week or two, let it warm up fully, drive it around the underground a bit just to get things moving.

Does anyone have any special advice on what I can do to keep it in optimal running condition for when I decide to insure it again? If all goes to plan it should be off insurance by June 14th. It will be sitting there for 2.5 years because that is the remainder of the loan on the car. I plan to insure and drive it again once it is all paid off.

What the rational behind your decision? Probably better to sell the car, and buy another in 2.5 years as these dont really hold value.

[alhope34]

Can't sell a car with a lien on it, and I don't want to. I'm asking for any special advice pertaining to parking the MS3 specifically, not advice on my decisions.

[Flagrum_3]

Hey Al, sorry to hear you have to park the car.Anyways heres some suggestions; One; I'm going to assume you will keep atleast fire and theft on the vehicle, this will also keep your policy 'active'.As for the actual car;

-Have it oil-sprayed (Krowned), if not already.Underground parking is bad for moisture build-up.
-Fill the gas tank and add fuel stabilizer and injector cleaner to the mix.This will prevent any water build up.
-Fresh engine oil.
-Make sure your engine coolant is good i.e; not acidic.(Check periodically)
-Couple coats of wax on all painted surfaces.
-Lube all hinges, door latches periodically.
-Remove/replace and clean your battery posts and connections at your starter; cover them good with Grease to prevent corrosion.
-Set the pressure several pounds higher for your tires.
-Start her up periodically and when able drive her around the underground to get the engine up to operating temp and also get wheel bearings, brakes etc, warmed up.
-Prep all the rubber seals; windows, doors, hatch etc;

Thats just things I can think of, off the top of my head.

Hope it helps.

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[-cj-]

Leave it in gear when storing it, don't use the parking brake because it will seize. If possible, stick a car cover on it. The side of the car that faces the entrance/exit will see more rust on the brakes then the other side, so it's best to just cover it.

I've heard that starting the car periodically is actually worse for it.

If you can, throw it up on jack stands. Your suspension will thank you.

[horto]

Al - I have LNIB car cover I'm not using. Yours if you want it (cheap) - PM me.

[Mazda3X2]

I've heard that starting the car periodically is actually worse for it.

I heard the same thing. It was in a Road & Track or something about storing cars. Increased wear for the engine and if not let warm up fully (meaning hot oil, coolant and exhaust), would help to introduce moisture and fuel into the oil and exhaust system. Cars need time at these tempuratues to burn this moisture off. Something to look into anyways.

I understand the need to get the brakes and bearings and everything moving, but in an underground parking garage the brakes should at least stay dry.

[mleblond]

So my MS3 is going to be sitting in the underground parking for a while. Quite a while. Probably at least 2.5 years. I was going to leave the battery unhooked and put my winter tires on because they are toast anyway, I don't care if they flat spot. I was also going to turn on the car every week or two, let it warm up fully, drive it around the underground a bit just to get things moving.

Does anyone have any special advice on what I can do to keep it in optimal running condition for when I decide to insure it again? If all goes to plan it should be off insurance by June 14th. It will be sitting there for 2.5 years because that is the remainder of the loan on the car. I plan to insure and drive it again once it is all paid off.

sorry to hear man, you got screwed when you bought the car. Best thing you could of done was to get it caught on fire or stolen and have inssurance pay it off for you... Live and Learn buddy.

[Flagrum_3]

I heard the same thing. It was in a Road & Track or something about storing cars. Increased wear for the engine and if not let warm up fully (meaning hot oil, coolant and exhaust), would help to introduce moisture and fuel into the oil and exhaust system. Cars need time at these tempuratues to burn this moisture off. Something to look into anyways.

I understand the need to get the brakes and bearings and everything moving, but in an underground parking garage the brakes should at least stay dry.

Your right, if one starts the vehicle you must keep it running till the engine reaches operating temperature and then some.Thats why I suggested driving it around in the underground i.e. Under-Load.This helps in everything getting properly lubed and heated.Don't drive it for 2 1/2 years and you'll be changing out shit like crazy once you do start driving, thats guaranteed.I've stored several vehicles over the years and never had an issue with starting and running the vehicle periodically.But again it must be stressed let it get hot and it doesn't hurt to rev her up a bit ;).

Oh and oil will still need to be replaced periodically, use synthetic and the periods can be stretched abit.

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[Kinn]

From my experience with storing motorcycles everything Flagrum said is what I'd suggest except for starting it up. Everything I've read and heard says to just let her sit once you've done the prep work and not start it up...the reality is your never gonna get it up to temp driving around an underground.

+1 on the cover defiantly something u want if it's going to be that long.

[alhope34]

Thanks for all the advice guys. I don't really have money to buy anything at all, including a car cover. This is part of the reason I'm doing this car switch now that I can, to save money and get my debt dealt with.

As for starting the car, I did plan to drive it around the underground and above ground when I did turn it on and move it every couple weeks, full throttle first and second I can get to 65-70 km/h in the above ground parking lot, haha. :P


Anyone curious as to what I got? I'm paying anywhere from $500-700 for it I'm guessing, my friend hasn't told me a price yet. He just wants to throw me a hundred or two in the following months when I can as he really doesn't care about it.

[-cj-]

A Civic? :)

You should have bought my Probe, I would have given you reasonable terms. 200 Hp KLZE motor :chuckle

[Mazda3X2]

I'm thinking a Civic as well. Show some pics of this bad boy when you get it.

[alhope34]

Hahaha, I don't have the money to actually BUY a car. :P I'm only doing this because my friend is so good about basically just giving it to me for now.


edit: I already have it, drove it to work today for the first time. It's a green 1995 Tercel DX 2 door 5 speed.

[Flagrum_3]

Hahaha, I don't have the money to actually BUY a car. :P I'm only doing this because my friend is so good about basically just giving it to me for now.


edit: I already have it, drove it to work today for the first time. It's a green 1995 Tercel DX 2 door 5 speed.

Haha What a beast! It'll contrast well with your red hair Al, lol....j/ks
Hey but you gotta do what you gotta do!

If you need any help with anything give me a shout buddy.


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[-cj-]

Make sure you get a rear motor mount on that beast ASAP! ;)

Seriously though, you'll be saving mad gas $$$ in your new whip while the rest of us have to put up with crazy 0-60 times, tight handling, neck breaking torque... :( j/k

[fywdyl]

My valve cover breather silicone hose has a tear in it :( Anyone know where I can get another one? And in the meantime, will taping it up suffice?

http://i923.photobucket.com/albums/ad78/fywdyl/MS3/eg.jpg

[Flagrum_3]

^Its a breather hose...Duct tape is your friend.


_3

[fywdyl]

Isn't that what I said?

Is electrical tape good enough?

[Flagrum_3]

Isn't that what I said?

Is electrical tape good enough?

Sure but not as durable as Duct tape ;)

[alhope34]

I used 5/8" radiator hose and two hose clamps I got from Rona for my intake. Like $2 a foot.

[fywdyl]

I just went to Home Depot and bought 10' of vinyl tubing, that was the only thing I could find on a Sunday afternoon. I'm just worried that it might melt. I haven't put it in yet cuz I think the tape is still holding up.

Question, if I get an OCC, will that replace the need for that hose? Thanks.

[Fobio]

FYWN

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-7zCJr_JbN1g/Te7yA12ff8I/AAAAAAAAEKE/67T_aRj-CZk/s1024/P1050174.JPG

[-cj-]

Hahaahah..... I like your setup! It's purrrdy.

[horto]

someone has big turbo envy? :gone

[Fobio]

Hahaahah..... I like your setup! It's purrrdy.

only the best... for me and my friends. ;)


someone has big turbo envy? :gone

I'm sorry if you feel that way...lol...esp for the guys who still have a Warranty to worry about.

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-Lc4DDYjI4Ss/Te7yIYyMWSI/AAAAAAAAEKY/a17VdFLC6Zc/s800/P1050179.JPG

[starscream]

Mmm big turbo. Looking good....

[breakfasteatre]

Vincent, nice turbo keychain! ;)

[Darkice]

Ouu turbo ;)

[breakfasteatre]

helmeted up!

[breakfasteatre]

Was at the gas station,

guys car was dead in the car wash, heled him ush it out, boosted his battery

dude throws me a 50

ut it towards the new um!

[fywdyl]

Was at the gas station,

guys car was dead in the car wash, helped him push it out, boosted his battery

dude throws me a 50

put it towards the new bum!

Fixed.

[Fobio]

My car...it's on the road...

[rzapata]

Anyone know what code P1288 is??? Something about too rich of something....???

[Iceman_F1]

Anyone know what code P1288 is??? Something about too rich of something....???

From what I see, assuming the Ford result, it's the Cylinder Head Temperature Sensor out of Self-Test Range

http://www.permoveo.ltd.uk/tabid/122/OBD-Error-Code/P1288/Diagnostics/Mazda/Default.aspx

[rzapata]

From what I see, assuming the Ford result, it's the Cylinder Head Temperature Sensor out of Self-Test Range

http://www.permoveo.ltd.uk/tabid/122/OBD-Error-Code/P1288/Diagnostics/Mazda/Default.aspx

Hmm.. Not sure what that is.. But thanks, will do more search about it..

EDIT:

Ooops, I think it's P2188.... Did a search on P2188 and saw a more accurate description of what I read...

[Iceman_F1]

Hmm.. Not sure what that is.. But thanks, will do more search about it..

EDIT:

Ooops, I think it's P2188.... Did a search on P2188 and saw a more accurate description of what I read...

Too rich at idle?

[breakfasteatre]

My car...it's on the road...

ms3 secret loblaws meet up sunday night?

[Iceman_F1]

Anyone good with determining weird sounds want to check the thread I just made regarding sounds I'm hearing with my car?

http://www.torontomazda3.ca/forum/showthread.php?54928-Noises-when-going-over-small-bumps

Starting to get annoying and I'm going in for service next Thursday so would like to try and have an idea of where to focus attention. That and get things solved (or at least assured it's safe) before track school.

[S.F.W.]

ms3 secret loblaws meet up sunday night?

if post 9pm...I'd be in, going to be in the area..

[horto]

ms3 secret loblaws meet up sunday night?

would love to but i'm out

[loki]

i am out of the country until Tuesday

[MajesticBlueNTO]

a few of us will be at Mosport DDT sunday until 5pm.

[loki]

I'd be down for a wednesday night meet?

[breakfasteatre]

wednesday is cool for me too

[Mr Wilson]

I'm good for either Wednesday or tonight at Loblaws.

[breakfasteatre]

ok, lets do wednesday, 9pm, secret loblaws burnout test center

[loki]

Ok. Secret loblaws at 9pm on Wed.

Roll call:

1. Breakfasteatre
2. Loki
3. Mr. Wilson
4.

[Fack_Dude]

I'm in for wednesday night.

[loki]

Secret lloblaws at 9pm on Wed.

Roll call:

1. Breakfasteatre
2. Loki
3. Mr. Wilson
4. Fast_dude
5.

[Fobio]

result of 20psi...track time, logging, stop and go...hundreds of logs...about 48K after turbo replacement.

I count myself lucky....much worst could've happened besides a blown gasket.

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-pnMtXjgBtS4/TgfeyDjLGPI/AAAAAAAAELA/kcUgZaP_izU/s1024/IMG_0043.JPG

[-cj-]

You should put that in a glass picture frame and hang it up somewhere!

[breakfasteatre]

this was discovered after turbo swap?

[Fobio]

this was discovered after turbo swap?

Well...I had to get that gasket replaced somehow...lol...so why not take care of the rest of it.

[horto]

secret loblaws burnout test center

no stunting at our get-togethers plz

[MajesticBlueNTO]

http://img827.imageshack.us/img827/4668/10924testandtune.jpg

1:09.24, the fastest time i got yesterday at the DDT, CCW with 2 kinks
* full interior
* full tank of gas
* the right tires made a world of diff.... 3-4 seconds faster with the hankook z214 vs. toyo r888

there was quite a good showing of 3's at Sigma Time Attack...even those that just came to hang out.

[loki]

no stunting at our get-togethers plz

you coming?

[horto]

you coming?

i'm a firm maybe at this point. :)

[optiklenz13]

1. Breakfasteatre
2. Loki
3. Mr. Wilson
4. Fast_dude
5. optiklenz13
6. horto

[horto]

1. Breakfasteatre
2. Loki
3. Mr. Wilson
4. Fast_dude
5. optiklenz13
6. horto

food suggestion if we get peckish...

Bamiyan Kabob
62 Overlea Blvd. Unit 3A
East York, ON M4H 1C4
http://www.bamiyankabob.com/index.php/menu.html

The one in Mississauga is AWESOME. There's a location on Overlea.

Nando's churrasco chicken is good too, and close.

[breakfasteatre]

i was joking about the burnouts :) I only do them in front of my house

[breakfasteatre]

anyone seen this?

http://www.noinfo.com/ontario_bikeroads.jpg

[alhope34]

^^ Since I ride, yes, I have.

[loki]

food suggestion if we get peckish...

Bamiyan Kabob
62 Overlea Blvd. Unit 3A
East York, ON M4H 1C4
http://www.bamiyankabob.com/index.php/menu.html

The one in Mississauga is AWESOME. There's a location on Overlea.

Nando's churrasco chicken is good too, and close.

good idea with the food.

reminder about tomorrow night's ms3 meet.

anyone else joining us?

[horto]

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/117425/parkhere.png

[speedsilver]

If you guys would welcome a new spee6 i would be in :) assuming my cars ready :)

[optiklenz13]

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/117425/parkhere.png

It's not a secret anymore!! You posted it! LOL!

[optiklenz13]

If you guys would welcome a new spee6 i would be in :) assuming my cars ready :)

Come by!

[speedsilver]

lol i guess its easy to find now :p hope to see you guys later

[alhope34]

Secret? Us MTBers have been using that parking lot as a meeting place for years. If you want a test of your physical ability try powering straight up that hill that goes down to the water works. Last summer I would park my MS3 at the bottom of the hill in the gravel when I'd go there to hit up the trails with a work buddy.

[horto]

yes secret... shhh...

those trails are awesome to ride. (MTB). i'm happy to bring my bike and come earlier next time we do this if anyone else wants to "do the don" prior!

[alhope34]

I'm game for an MS3 meet and ride. :chuckle 9pm is way too late for me to meet anyway. My bed time is 10.

[optiklenz13]

Great time tonight guys. Pure jokes!! Derek's stories were awesome!! Hahaha

Mike, please park properly next time. :chuckle

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5032/5886331645_bf7eaee016_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/optiklenz13/5886331645/)
Horto (http://www.flickr.com/photos/optiklenz13/5886331645/) by optiklenz13 (http://www.flickr.com/people/optiklenz13/), on Flickr

[horto]

:(

[optiklenz13]

LOL!!! You thought you could get away with it without me snapping a picture, did you? :P

[horto]

LOL!!! You thought you could get away with it without me snapping a picture, did you? :P

Actually, yes. That's why I asked if you had your camera or not :P

+1 to fast_dude's stories. I was literally busting a gut laughing.

[Mr Wilson]

Horto, take the car up to Jimmy's?

+2 to FD

[optiklenz13]

Hahhaa.. "Pissed me off!!!" :chuckle

[horto]

"what the FAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACK"

I'm going to jimmy's soon.

[loki]

Boooooombahclaaaaat!!!

Fok ya mama!!!!

[klspeed3]

Lol you bajans...:getout :P


Boooooombahclaaaaat!!!

Fok ya mama!!!!

[loki]

Lol you bajans...:getout :P

i'm just quoting fast_dude's stories.
:chuckle

[Fack_Dude]

HAHAHA!!!!! lol Greet meet last night guys...lol

[Mr Wilson]

If you go down that steep hill behind the Loblaws this is pretty much what it looks like.

http://www.torontomazda3.ca/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=5286&d=1309537581

[optiklenz13]

Nice! You beat me to it!

[loki]

if you go down the hill there's a white ms3 parked on an angle?

weird....:gone

on a side note, I stopped by SP for shits and giggles last night and was asking Jimmy about you FD....he had no comment...hahaha

[horto]

If you go down that steep hill behind the Loblaws this is pretty much what it looks like.

http://www.torontomazda3.ca/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=5286&d=1309537581

the more i see em, the more i like those wheels :(

[loki]

H, met a guy at SP last night who's possibly looking for speed3 OEM rims. Could be an opportunity for you to go aftermarket.

selling the speed rims pays for a nice chunk of it man.

~ loki

[Mr Wilson]

the more i see em, the more i like those wheels :(

I'll keep an eye out for you to see if anything pops up.

[breakfasteatre]

Did i see a member today at the shell on yonge st in newmarket? I was the other true red ms3

[breakfasteatre]

some badass looking rims on kijiji:

http://ontario.kijiji.ca/c-cars-vehicles-auto-parts-tires-tires-rims-18X8-ALT-SEKTOR-FORGED-RIMS-W0QQAdIdZ295534082

[klspeed3]

definitely! would look sick on my cwp i think.


some badass looking rims on kijiji:

http://ontario.kijiji.ca/c-cars-vehicles-auto-parts-tires-tires-rims-18X8-ALT-SEKTOR-FORGED-RIMS-W0QQAdIdZ295534082

[horto]

http://ontario.kijiji.ca/c-cars-vehicles-auto-parts-tires-tires-rims-RARE-18-Work-Emotion-CR-KAI-W0QQAdIdZ295785283

hmm

[-cj-]

Wow, wish I paid that little for my KAI's.

Wonder what the condition is...

[horto]

Wow, wish I paid that little for my KAI's.

Wonder what the condition is...


:D

[loki]

:D

you should buy em'

[horto]

you should buy em'

I went and checked these rims out at lunch today. What a waste of time. 2 of the rims are bent and curbed, and they are possibly fake. While most of them had the work stickers on them (or what was left of them), they weren't stamped with the WORK logo anywhere on the wheels. Just a "made in japan". I don't know if all CR Kai's do or do not have the logo stamped, but I passed on them the minute I saw they were bent to shit.

The dude's place was a disgusting mess to boot. That's an hour of my life I won't be getting back...

The search continues!

[klspeed3]

you still have stock rims on your ride ya?


I went and checked these rims out at lunch today. What a waste of time. 2 of the rims are bent and curbed, and they are possibly fake. While most of them had the work stickers on them (or what was left of them), they weren't stamped with the WORK logo anywhere on the wheels. Just a "made in japan". I don't know if all CR Kai's do or do not have the logo stamped, but I passed on them the minute I saw they were bent to shit.

The dude's place was a disgusting mess to boot. That's an hour of my life I won't be getting back...

The search continues!

[horto]

you still have stock rims on your ride ya?

yup, in good condition. hankook v12 ventus evo 215/45/r18 installed. pm me if you em :P

[klspeed3]

done :P

[breakfasteatre]

You could see the bends in the pictures. flat spots

the missing stickers threw me off as well.

[-cj-]

Well, I never bothered throwing on any of the stickers on my work rims. Although each one does say Work on them and made in Japan (if I'm not mistaken).

Sucks that it turned out to be a waste of time...

[loki]

edit

[Alex2000]

Test drove Mazda speed3 the other day. Mind blowing drive!!

[loki]

Test drove Mazda speed3 the other day. Mind blowing drive!!

did you buy it?

[Booostin]

you still have stock rims on your ride ya?

What are you going to do with your aftermarket rims?

[cSPEED]

Does anyone else here skip 2nd gear on a regular basis? I started to recently because I got kind of annoyed with shifting into 2nd to be honest. Here's how I see and please someone correct me if I'm wrong:
How I used to drive:
1st: shift at 2800 going ~20
2nd: shift 2800 going ~40
3rd engages at 1900 rpm.

How I drive now:
1st: 3500-3700 rpm going ~30-35
3rd engages at 1700-1900

Anything wrong with this? I've just found that 2nd is kind of pointless and is just an extra shift. The car doesn't bog when I shift into even the lower part of the rpm range into 3rd (lowest I go to ever is 1600 or so) and it just removes the extra clutch and shift going a speed and gear that I won't be maintaining.

PS: this only applies to driving on the street!! obviously if I'm driving through a gas station I won't go 1st-3rd but if I know I need to reach 60KM/hr going from light to light I just go 1st-3rd.

[cSPEED]

did you buy it?

and if not, HOW?!

[SKYMP3]

Does anyone else here skip 2nd gear on a regular basis? I started to recently because I got kind of annoyed with shifting into 2nd to be honest. Here's how I see and please someone correct me if I'm wrong:
How I used to drive:
1st: shift at 2800 going ~20
2nd: shift 2800 going ~40
3rd engages at 1900 rpm.

How I drive now:
1st: 3500-3700 rpm going ~30-35
3rd engages at 1700-1900

Anything wrong with this? I've just found that 2nd is kind of pointless and is just an extra shift. The car doesn't bog when I shift into even the lower part of the rpm range into 3rd (lowest I go to ever is 1600 or so) and it just removes the extra clutch and shift going a speed and gear that I won't be maintaining.

PS: this only applies to driving on the street!! obviously if I'm driving through a gas station I won't go 1st-3rd but if I know I need to reach 60KM/hr going from light to light I just go 1st-3rd.

3500rpm on 1st will kill you a lot of gas if you do that all the timem not sure why you do that.

[rzapata]

3500rpm on 1st will kill you a lot of gas if you do that all the timem not sure why you do that.

To have fun and to burn a little rubber. :chuckle I think his second gear is giving him problems before so that could be part of the reason..

@curlyface: Personally, I like the extra gear (not in stop and go traffic though). :) As for your question, well, I've not done it really but seeing that our cars have close gear ratios, why not???? Somebody, please chime in! :)

[-cj-]

As a few of you already know, I got rid of my Speed 3 =)

I took advantage of a great deal that I couldn't pass up. I'm not going anywhere, so I'll still be involved in the local meets (There's still a Mazda in the garage, after all ;)

SOOOO! Watch out for a crazy part out thread. =)

[BlueStreak]

Sushi roll races!

[breakfasteatre]

um, what did you end up getting?????

[loki]

:whoa

[Mr Wilson]

^^^ +1

Whatcha get?

[loki]

I'm just interested in the parts list!

so just post up the list, maybe I'll start shooting you some offers.

PARTS LIST!

[-cj-]

I'll throw up the parts list as soon as I'm done compiling it... Lots of stuff. :)

Picked up a new 1M. Loving it... Miss the speed tho.

[n00bMeiSter]

I went and checked these rims out at lunch today. What a waste of time. 2 of the rims are bent and curbed, and they are possibly fake. While most of them had the work stickers on them (or what was left of them), they weren't stamped with the WORK logo anywhere on the wheels. Just a "made in japan". I don't know if all CR Kai's do or do not have the logo stamped, but I passed on them the minute I saw they were bent to shit.

The dude's place was a disgusting mess to boot. That's an hour of my life I won't be getting back...

The search continues!


I know this is 6 months late, but yes: authentic works have work stamped into them.

[-cj-]

^ Yes they do. My authentic work
CR KAI black LEs will be up for sale soon. :)

[SKYMP3]

I'm just interested in the parts list!

so just post up the list, maybe I'll start shooting you some offers.

PARTS LIST!

Same here.. part list!
:D

[-cj-]

I'm probably missing a few items. Will update as I clean up parts. Will create an official FS thread over next week.


Cobb AP w/ all original materials
Cobb Springs
Cobb Rear Sway Bar
Dashhawk
CP-E Dashhawk mount
CP-E Tow Hook License Plate
CP-E Catted Downpipe with EGR Bung
CP-E SafeSeal Injector Seals (Brand new, someone called dibs)
CP-E FMIC (Painted stealth black w/ Rad paint). Brand new couplers, hot pipe powder coated red
CP-E FMIC throttle body cold pipe, tapped for meth (Someone called dibs)
CP-E Big Inlet for 3071r
CP-E 3" Nano Intake
ATP 3071r w/ upgraded all stainless steel hoses
SteedSpeed Black Ceramic coated exhaust manifold (Someone called dibs)
TWM Short Shifter w/ upgraded solid bushings
MS3 Rear End Links
Adjustable Front End links
AutoExe Stainless Steel Brake Lines
GrimmSpeed Electronic Boost Controller
SNOW Performance Stage2 Meth Kit (Might not sell)
Hella Horns with weather proofed wiring harness
NGR Engine Torque Damper
Megan Racing Rear Camber Arms
18x7" Work CR-KAI Black Limited Edition Wheels
18" Yokohama AD07 summer tires
18" Mazdaspeed 2010 OEM Wheels
18" W300 Winter Tires, used 1.25 winters
07-09 Mazdaspeed Carbon Fiber Hood. Full replica, with ability to move entire under hood contents over.

The look on just about everyone's face when all the above is used to lay the smack down: Priceless. :P

[n00bMeiSter]

I'm probably missing a few items. Will update as I clean up parts. Will create an official FS thread over next week.


Cobb AP w/ all original materials
Cobb Springs
Cobb Rear Sway Bar
Dashhawk
CP-E Dashhawk mount
CP-E Tow Hook License Plate
CP-E Catted Downpipe with EGR Bung
CP-E SafeSeal Injector Seals (Brand new, someone called dibs)
CP-E FMIC (Painted stealth black w/ Rad paint). Brand new couplers, hot pipe powder coated red
CP-E FMIC throttle body cold pipe, tapped for meth (Someone called dibs)
CP-E Big Inlet for 3071r
CP-E 3" Nano Intake
ATP 3071r w/ upgraded all stainless steel hoses
SteedSpeed Black Ceramic coated exhaust manifold (Someone called dibs)
TWM Short Shifter w/ upgraded solid bushings
MS3 Rear End Links
Adjustable Front End links
AutoExe Stainless Steel Brake Lines
GrimmSpeed Electronic Boost Controller
SNOW Performance Stage2 Meth Kit (Might not sell)
Hella Horns with weather proofed wiring harness
NGR Engine Torque Damper
Megan Racing Rear Camber Arms
18x7" Work CR-KAI Black Limited Edition Wheels
18" Yokohama AD07 summer tires
18" Mazdaspeed 2010 OEM Wheels
18" W300 Winter Tires, used 1.25 winters
07-09 Mazdaspeed Carbon Fiber Hood. Full replica, with ability to move entire under hood contents over.

The look on just about everyone's face when all the above is used to lay the smack down: Priceless. :P

:whoa wow, that's a lot of parts. Why the massive part out?

[Booostin]

:whoa wow, that's a lot of parts. Why the massive part out?


I'll throw up the parts list as soon as I'm done compiling it... Lots of stuff. :)

Picked up a new 1M. Loving it... Miss the speed tho.

:O

[n00bMeiSter]

:O

Heh, Didn't even see that post.

1M? damn, must be nice.

[loki]

interested in the following:

Cobb Rear Sway Bar
Dashhawk
CP-E Dashhawk mount
Megan Racing Rear Camber Arms

sent you a PM

~ loki

[Elusivellama]

Sweet... a brand new 1M. Congrats on the upgrade! What colour?

[loki]

@ SKYMP3, you better have sent -CJ- a PM asking about that Cobb AP....

@ fast_dude, have you ordered your BT stuff yet? might be able to save some money picking up this stuff....

[breakfasteatre]

omg a 1m, you mother****er! hahahahah

rides please

[BlueStreak]

Somebody pick up the 3071R and join the cool club. You ain't cool unless you haz big terbohz.

[loki]

Somebody pick up the 3071R and join the cool club. You ain't cool unless you haz big terbohz.

nah you gotta do the AWD conversion to stand out nowadays

or go forged! :chuckle

[BlueStreak]

I'm on the bleeding edge man, bleeding edge.

Who's going big turbo now? We're one man down and need somebody to take up the slack.

[loki]

I'm on the bleeding edge man, bleeding edge.

Who's going big turbo now? We're one man down and need somebody to take up the slack.

NATOR AWD conversion!!! defines the word "epic"

you gots celestespeed3 and fast_dude picking up the slack

[BlueStreak]

That still leaves a big turbo that isn't installed in a Speed, though.

The big turbo guys need to give the K04 guys rides to showcase awesomeness.

[loki]

That still leaves a big turbo that isn't installed in a Speed, though.

The big turbo guys need to give the K04 guys rides to showcase awesomeness.

ok I'm just gonna stop talking about big turbos, before I get the idea stuck in my head. cuz once it's there, I don't fak around

[BlueStreak]

No worries.

Go big turbo. It gets you women, mad street cred and pink slips. Pink slips! Like on Fast and the Furious.

Big turbo...

[Mr Wilson]

^^^ Loki, just buy it.....you know you waaaaaaant it.

CJ sad to hear, but congrats on the new ride. It's the true successor to the original M3......is it the 'burnt' orange colour?

[loki]

M3 sounds cooler than 1M though....

[loki]

-CJ- stop checking this post, and respond to my PM :)

[-cj-]

Hah, thanks guys! It's white... I really dig the orange though!

For anyone on the fence about the big turbo....... I test drove a 335i, M3, 135i and now my 1M and they all felt slower then my speed3! (No word of a lie). A properly tuned and upgraded speed3 will ruin most cars for you..... :(

[-cj-]

-CJ- stop checking this post, and respond to my PM :)


I don't have pricing for anything yet... However, PMs will be used to compare dibs. :) I'll get pricing on everything in a week or so when I make the FS thread.

[Mr Wilson]

They should have called it M1, granted enthusiasts would have been up in arms, but the Dodge Charger has seemingly done well and 99.9% of people would not even know of a mid-engined BMW that started its life with Lamborghini.

[loki]

I don't have pricing for anything yet... However, PMs will be used to compare dibs. :) I'll get pricing on everything in a week or so when I make the FS thread.

No no no...a week from now I'll be at a conference in Vegas......

Ok let me rephrase, I want the dashhawk and the cp-e dashhawk mount. So let's figure out a price and I'll come and get it, I'm not worried about the condition of the items since I figure you're just like me and take good care of your toys. The other stuff I can wait for the FS thread, and see if I still fancy picking that stuff up.

[Mr Wilson]

^^^Good I can grab the sway bar when you are gone.

[loki]

^^^Good I can grab the sway bar when you are gone.

how bout' you lick my balls

[-cj-]

LOL, all items are taken care of... Items that have issues I'll note :) (There's only like 2 items)

Loki, let me do some research on it...but I'll hold it for you anyway. I just haven't looked into what these items go for and I want to give everyone fair pricing.

Mr. Wilson: Don't get me started on the M1 debate... LOL. They seem to love changing their naming convention, it's really stupid if you ask me! There's talk of the 3 series becoming 4, 1 series becoming 2, or maybe even a new 2... Oy. Why can't they just keep it simple and consistent...

[Mr Wilson]

how bout' you lick my balls

Sorry :No Homo Smiley

[loki]

thanks -cj-

just making sure you knew what I was interested in. :P

[dexter]

May be interested in the AP depending on the price you're asking!

[-cj-]

Cobb AP w/ all original materials
Cobb Springs
Cobb Rear Sway Bar
Dashhawk
CP-E Dashhawk mount
CP-E Tow Hook License Plate
CP-E Catted Downpipe with EGR Bung
CP-E SafeSeal Injector Seals (Brand new, someone called dibs)
CP-E FMIC (Painted stealth black w/ Rad paint). Brand new couplers, hot pipe powder coated red
CP-E FMIC throttle body cold pipe, tapped for meth (Someone called dibs)
CP-E Big Inlet for 3071r
CP-E 3" Nano Intake
ATP 3071r w/ upgraded all stainless steel hoses
SteedSpeed Black Ceramic coated exhaust manifold (Someone called dibs)
TWM Short Shifter w/ upgraded solid bushings
MS3 Rear End Links
Adjustable Front End links
AutoExe Stainless Steel Brake Lines
GrimmSpeed Electronic Boost Controller
SNOW Performance Stage2 Meth Kit (Might not sell)
Hella Horns with weather proofed wiring harness
NGR Engine Torque Damper
Megan Racing Rear Camber Arms
18x7" Work CR-KAI Black Limited Edition Wheels
18" Yokohama AD07 summer tires
18" Mazdaspeed 2010 OEM Wheels
18" W300 Winter Tires, used 1.25 winters
07-09 Mazdaspeed Carbon Fiber Hood. Full replica, with ability to move entire under hood contents over.


CP-E HPFP
PGv3 Exhaust Manifold (New, although the flange was removed and then re-added when I was test fitting a 3076r)
2 x 13" shallow subs in a custom enclosure that takes up like < 1 foot from your trunk space
1000 watt Alpine amplifier
Mazda 3 plastic trunk upgrade that's been modified (slightly) to fit the MS3. (This is probably one of my fav non-performance mods. You can hide your amplifier in here)
WeatherTech Digital Fits Front and Rears
Cobb XLE BPV (Thanks Loki.)
Brake Performance Slotted / Dimped Rotors, front and back (~15,000km)
Brake Performance Slotted / Dimped Rotors, fronts, <5k km

... I'm sure I'll post other items when I see them. :)

[loki]

Some kind of bpv

[-cj-]

Some kind of bpv

Added. ;)

[loki]

Added. ;)

Ok it doesn't hurt to ask, but do you have one of the red mazdaspeed oil caps?

If so would you mind swapping for my plastic one that says click? :P

[boyracer]

Ok it doesn't hurt to ask, but do you have one of the red mazdaspeed oil caps?

If so would you mind swapping for my plastic one that says click? :P

LOL, ya, it just doesn't look right looking under your hood & seeing that cap there

[alhope34]

CP-E HPFP


What you selling that for? :P

[loki]

LOL, ya, it just doesn't look right looking under your hood & seeing that cap there

You see he has for sale a hpfp right?

[boyracer]

Just noticed that now

[-cj-]

LOL. I *was* going to swap the red oil cap, but couldn't find my original one. The car is gone :)

Edit: I haven't looked into fair pricing yet, so if you're interested in something, just PM me and when I price everything out I'll give you dibs.

[loki]

Faaaaaakkkkkkk

I'm stuck with this piece of shit

[breakfasteatre]

jerry, what is the plastic trunk tray you mention? Im interested

[-cj-]

These are old pics, but you get the idea:

http://www.clubnet.org/~clave/MS3_Sound1.jpg
http://www.clubnet.org/~clave/MS3_sound2.jpg
http://www.clubnet.org/~clave/cargotray.jpg

[alhope34]

Looks like the same tray from the normal Mazda 3's.

[-cj-]

It is. I had to trim the area near the shock towers to make them fit... The tray cost me something like $350 for all 3 pieces, plus a new spare tire bolt since you get rid of the foam piece that elevates the spare tire (I need to confirm with Joe what my cost was)

[breakfasteatre]

ahh i thought it was the cargo cover :(

[loki]

So out of curiosity I decided to ask my wife late last night in bed if it was cool to put a bigger turbo on the speed, and as tired as she was, she still managed to drum up enough energy to tell me to go F myself.

so....I'm out

[rzapata]

So out of curiosity I decided to ask my wife late last night in bed if it was cool to put a bigger turbo on the speed, and as tired as she was, she still managed to drum up enough energy to tell me to go F myself.

so....I'm out

Hehe, seems like women all think the same way.. My GF is ok with the stuff that I bought so far because they're small amounts only. I always say that, "These things will make the car better." Notice how vague that statement is... Like the tints, helps block the sunlight especially on a sunny day... The intake, will make the car run better and efficiently... The tow plate, I couldn't think of any BS so I just said it makes the car looks good (she says otherwise though)... The caliper paint, prevent rusting... Winter tires are ok because they're for safety...

So now, I'm in the process of devising a statement that will justify an AP and suspension that is absolutely fool proof and will just get a "nod" when I deliver it. :chuckle

[Booostin]

Hehe, seems like women all think the same way.. My GF is ok with the stuff that I bought so far because they're small amounts only. I always say that, "These things will make the car better." Notice how vague that statement is... Like the tints, helps block the sunlight especially on a sunny day... The intake, will make the car run better and efficiently... The tow plate, I couldn't think of any BS so I just said it makes the car looks good (she says otherwise though)... The caliper paint, prevent rusting... Winter tires are ok because they're for safety...

So now, I'm in the process of devising a statement that will justify an AP and suspension that is absolutely fool proof and will just get a "nod" when I deliver it. :chuckle

Putting a AP up for sale soon for very good price.

[rzapata]

Putting a AP up for sale soon for very good price.

Why selling?

[Booostin]

Why selling?

I have two lol

[rzapata]

I have two lol

Nice! :) But again why? :chuckle

[Fack_Dude]

So out of curiosity I decided to ask my wife late last night in bed if it was cool to put a bigger turbo on the speed, and as tired as she was, she still managed to drum up enough energy to tell me to go F myself.

so....I'm out

Don't tell her bro! Then she won't get mad at you. Lol