Random MS3 Chat Thread

[CelestSpeed3]

R-comps are the next best thing to the driver mod.

[alhope34]

Changed the oil today and put in 5w50 for the first time. Anyone think it can last to 8000 kms without shearing past 5w30 weight? lol.

[CelestSpeed3]

It could, but what brand of oil are you using?

[loki]

Changed the oil today and put in 5w50 for the first time. Anyone think it can last to 8000 kms without shearing past 5w30 weight? lol.

was that the oil on your MS3 or on your bike?

[hemlor]

I just have a quick question regarding HPFP. It seems the common upgrade to the fuel pump is the internals. I can see 2 potential advantages but please correct me if I am way off. 1 advantage is cost, assuming internals cost less than a complete pump, and second, if the car is under warranty, and the pump fails, the dealer is less likely to notice that the pump has been modified? Is there any other benefit to replacing internals only?

Please pardon the ignorance

thank you

[loki]

I just have a quick question regarding HPFP. It seems the common upgrade to the fuel pump is the internals. I can see 2 potential advantages but please correct me if I am way off. 1 advantage is cost, assuming internals cost less than a complete pump, and second, if the car is under warranty, and the pump fails, the dealer is less likely to notice that the pump has been modified? Is there any other benefit to replacing internals only?

Please pardon the ignorance

thank you

the cp-e pumps use the stock core so they are identical. Only thing is there is a cp-e sticker on it which you could take off.

The difference in cost between internals and a cp-e pump is about 400 bucks. You get a lifetime warranty with the cp-e pump.

[alhope34]

It could, but what brand of oil are you using?

Syntec.

[CelestSpeed3]

Castrol edge didn't hold up for me very well.

Either way for $25 we can have the oil tested for you before you drain it out to see for sure.

[alhope34]

That would actually be interesting to see. If it holds up then it may be worth it to keep using their 5w50 and do changes at 8000 kms rather than at 5000. It's not like I have a mod heavy car, either. Just FMIC and SF intake.

How would I get the oil sample from my car and who would I give it plus the cash to? I'm going to Montreal next week end then again for the April long week end so 5000 kms will probably add up fast.

[hemlor]

the cp-e pumps use the stock core so they are identical. Only thing is there is a cp-e sticker on it which you could take off.

The difference in cost between internals and a cp-e pump is about 400 bucks. You get a lifetime warranty with the cp-e pump.

Thanks for the info

[CelestSpeed3]

Just PM Kris_cwp to meet up with you he has extra kits and the siphon tool.

[alhope34]

Alrighty, thanks.

[Fobio]

I'm still working thru the i-tis from a heavy breakfast...and it's not even lunch yet.

I want to go for a drive...

[BlueStreak]

Same. I have an itch to scratch now that my car is running perfect.

I really need to get some work done...

[loki]

Same. I have an itch to scratch now that my car is running perfect.

I really need to get some work done...

That itch is called crabs. You should really start wearing "armour"

[rzapata]

That itch is called crabs. You should really start wearing "armour"

Oh snap! :chuckle

I gots the itch too.. With this nice weather we're having, I can't stop staring at the car and can't wait to blast past peeps! It seems that the throttle has changed to an on/off switch instead! :chuckle

[Mr Wilson]

Was out for a bit before lunch. Road started drying out, windows down, soooo nice.

[BlueStreak]

That itch is called crabs. You should really start wearing "armour"

Seems like you're speaking from experience. Next time I feel like I have something flaring up, I'll text you photos so you can diagnose me. :chuckle

[Fobio]

Seems like you're speaking from experience. Next time I feel like I have something flaring up, I'll text you photos so you can diagnose me. :chuckle

He'll tell you the same thing his mother tells him...

"Son, you don't need to SEE braille to read it..."

LOL

[loki]

Seems like you're speaking from experience. Next time I feel like I have something flaring up, I'll text you photos so you can diagnose me. :chuckle

Txt away. All photos will be posted on TM3

[BlueStreak]

He'll tell you the same thing his mother tells him...

"Son, you don't need to SEE braille to read it..."

LOL

HAHAHAHA! Dirt.


Txt away. All photos will be posted on TM3

Hope everybody has a large monitor...

[loki]

Fobio, I've got some great braille audio tapes that I like to listen to on those long drives. Lemme know and I'll drop some off for you

We can also go hang out at that new titty bar "the brass braille"...

The girls are hideous but the guys that go there don't seem to notice...

[Thrizzl3]

Lmao!

[BlueStreak]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yOr2h9cl8C4

[Elusivellama]

Just swapped my winters out for the summers, it's supposed to be very nice this whole week. Looking for any excuse to go driving around a bit lol.

[fywdyl]

Anyone else do theirs yet? I hope there won't be a surprise snow storm or something....

[loki]

Anyone else do theirs yet? I hope there won't be a surprise snow storm or something....

I'm holding off as long as I can since I need to buy new summer tires.

[BlueStreak]

I want to put mine on SO badly but still have to roll my rear fenders at NATOR North.

[Thrizzl3]

mine are being done next month...no rush

[Fobio]

Anyone else do theirs yet? I hope there won't be a surprise snow storm or something....

That usually how it goes...you change it and the snow comes back. happened to me lastyr. 1.5 hrs from Yonge/Eglinton to DVP/Eglinton in your summers. Thank god or oh gawd, it was bumper to bumper the whole way....

[S.F.W.]

Anyone else do theirs yet? I hope there won't be a surprise snow storm or something....
Summer wheels/tires going on tomorrow. Bumper and DP Friday.

[Fack_Dude]

Im getting my new rims and tires put on saturday

[2zoom]

My summers went on last Sunday loving every minute of it...

[breakfasteatre]

just gave everything a wash, throwing them on after the winters dry

[SomeGuy]

I threw my summers on at lunch...and then washed after work. Even if I have to swap back, I'll just keep an eye on the weather and do it the night before the weather goes shitty. It seriously only takes 20 minutes so why not run summers on these beautiful warm roads :)

[loki]

Watching Rambo in my executive suite in Winnipeg

#winning

Just kidding....fml.....

[rzapata]

Watching Rambo in my executive suite in Winnipeg

#winning

Just kidding....fml.....

Rambo?! I just glanced through the end of the movie. Wait, there's another one starting right now. :chuckle

[loki]

The newest Rambo

[loki]

Also overpaid for the worst steak I've ever eaten

[S.F.W.]

Why don't they just buy you a place in Winterpeg ? You spend enough time there..

[fywdyl]

While you're at it... get another car there too.

[loki]

Why don't they just buy you a place in Winterpeg ? You spend enough time there..

Never!

[Elusivellama]

If it snows again before the start of summer, I'm blaming you guys for jinxing the weather

[CelestSpeed3]

This weather is still too cold for the RS-3's the night temps are high enough yet. Someday, it will be ready.

[fywdyl]

If it snows again before the start of summer, I'm blaming you guys for jinxing the weather

Yep, totally my fault for even bringing it up... ha ha.

Putting on my wheels tonight.

[-cj-]

This weather is still too cold for the RS-3's the night temps are high enough yet. Someday, it will be ready.

Yeah, it was a little slippery this morning, but by the time I leave work it should be warmer, which hopefully means the pavement will have a chance to heat up a degree or two. I'd rather drive cautiously then wear down my winter rubber in this weather. Besides, after a few WOT pulls and some heavy braking, they'll be sticky in no time. ;)

[Elusivellama]

http://i853.photobucket.com/albums/ab96/Elusivellama/MS3/c078a5fa.jpg

A little bit too much wheel gap stock, I'll have to drop it at some point (100% stock springs etc). Any suggestions for a good setup? Really don't want to drop it too much, am more interested in how it will handle afterwards than how slammed it will look.

[S.F.W.]

A little bit too much wheel gap stock, I'll have to drop it at some point (100% stock springs etc). Any suggestions for a good setup? Really don't want to drop it too much, am more interested in how it will handle afterwards than how slammed it will look.

Prokits and either koni yellow's Bilstein b8's

[Elusivellama]

Thanks Ami

[Booostin]

At least with coilovers you can raise it in the winter... something to think about

[S.F.W.]

At least with coilovers you can raise it in the winter... something to think about
Certainly. But don't forget the much higher initial cost, plus the time/effort/cost required to adjust the height summer/winter. I had coilovers on my 04 Sedan..and have no interest in going that route again.

[Thrizzl3]

Certainly. But don't forget the much higher initial cost, plus the time/effort/cost required to adjust the height summer/winter. I had coilovers on my 04 Sedan..and have no interest in going that route again.

pshhhhh..piece of cake! lol

[J_Logik]

Elusivellama, I'd also check out the Swift springs, with Koni or Bilstein , they aren't very agressive in their drop and improve handling characteristics measurably.

I'm putting on my summers this weekend as well. It's too nice to be driving around with out traction and with added weight. The weather is good to go, forecast is not calling for any sub 10* days for the majority of the rest of the March, so the chances of snow again are slim.

[SKYMP3]

Nice rims El.
Those are Enkei?

[Elusivellama]

Elusivellama, I'd also check out the Swift springs, with Koni or Bilstein , they aren't very agressive in their drop and improve handling characteristics measurably.

Thanks, will do.

Skymp3, the wheels are TSW Nurburgrings (matte bronze)

[Fack_Dude]

Yup. Nice rims.

[S.F.W.]

Downpipe and autoexe bumper being installed tomorrow by Jimmy. Was thinking of going the Nator route on the DP, but decided on convenience and ease this time around.

[horto]

Skymp3, the wheels are TSW Nurburgrings (matte bronze)

they are nice... where did you get them?

[Elusivellama]

@horto I got them from Discount Tire Direct (US). I'll take better pics of the car/wheels later tomorrow after a car wash.

BTW, any white genpus that were at Conestoga Mall at around noon today? /stalk

[loki]

f**** waterloo

[Fobio]

f**** waterloo

lol...I second only because I paid my dues there...

and put a smile on sunshine, we'll get your baby sorted out. =)

[Fack_Dude]

f**** waterloo

Your going to be ok bro! ;)

[CelestSpeed3]

We'll get your sorted out here tomorrow.

[loki]

We'll get your sorted out here tomorrow.


lol...I second only because I paid my dues there...

and put a smile on sunshine, we'll get your baby sorted out. =)


Your going to be ok bro! ;)

:)

[Elusivellama]

f**** waterloo

I agree

[loki]

I agree

Car looks great

Managed to keep the general look of the stock wheels, which I believe you liked, but saved a good chunk of weight.

Good stuff man

[boyracer]

Fu@kkkk! I think I need new (lighter) rims.

[Thrizzl3]

Fu@kkkk! I think I need new (lighter) rims.

no you need a bigger turbo...

[boyracer]

no you need a bigger turbo...

FAWKKKKKK!!!! That too!

[loki]

Fawwwwwwkkkkkk $$$$$$$

You do need lighter rims

[S.F.W.]

Had Jimmy install my DP today...man I can feel the extra power.

[loki]

no you need a bigger turbo...

Says the guy with the stock speed

Simon is doing well. You have a lot of catching up to do

[Thrizzl3]

Says the guy with the stock speed

Simon is doing well. You have a lot of catching up to do

haha in time..baby steps. building the foundation right now...

oh and i'm not bone stock anymore

[boyracer]

haha in time..baby steps. building the foundation right now...

oh and i'm not bone stock anymore

Mr Wilson..... ring a bell...LOL

[loki]

Mr Wilson..... ring a bell...LOL

+1 baby steps

[loki]

:welcome smiley


Ami nice, you flash a stage2 tune and away you go haha

[Elusivellama]

Which DP? Cobb or CPE

[boyracer]

Which DP? Cobb or CPE

S.F.W. is running the cp-e DP.

[Elusivellama]

Nice. Can't wait to get my own, stage 2 is calling my name.

[Elusivellama]

Car looks great

Managed to keep the general look of the stock wheels, which I believe you liked, but saved a good chunk of weight.

Good stuff man

Yeah man, I really do like the look of the spoke design on the stockers. I remembered your advice to spend on upgrading my wheels rather than powdercoat them - allocation of funds and all that.

@boyracer, the stockers are 24lbs each I think, maybe 25lbs? Not sure. My TSWs in 18 x 8.5 are listed at 19.5lbs.

[Elusivellama]

Okay, took better pics. Might paint the calipers at some point, but only if I see a good deal going down at a sponsor like Simply Tire. I'm really liking these TSW nurbs. Also got 4 MAF logs tonight (2nd gear 2000 rpm -> near redline as slowly as I could, giving me readings from 5 to 130), time to calibrate that MAF.

http://i853.photobucket.com/albums/ab96/Elusivellama/MS3/IMG_1617.jpg
http://i853.photobucket.com/albums/ab96/Elusivellama/MS3/IMG_1618.jpg
http://i853.photobucket.com/albums/ab96/Elusivellama/MS3/IMG_1619.jpg

[Fobio]

nice pics!

my car is dirty as ****...lol...swapped on summers today, didn't wash them since last yr...dirty as ****...and fixed a nail puncture.

also coated my FMIC core today...

can't wait to wash my car.

EDIT: anyone interested in a GT3071 w/ SteedSpeed Mani setup and a tune for $1900?

[loki]

originally supposed to be in Winnipeg from today until Thursday...

looks like I'll be extending my stay until at least Saturday...

Hating life starts....NOW

[boyracer]

originally supposed to be in Winnipeg from today until Thursday...

looks like I'll be extending my stay until at least Saturday...

Hating life starts....NOW

Why the extra 2 days? Work related I assume.

[loki]

Why the extra 2 days? Work related I assume.

yup work related

and to fly back on Friday would cost $3000

[Thrizzl3]

yup work related

and to fly back on Friday would cost $3000

holy shit!

[Fobio]

yup work related

and to fly back on Friday would cost $3000

go rent a mustang and terrorize the locals.

[Booostin]

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_xdN0QQwsP1A/SPoAYP3Yd1I/AAAAAAAAAKk/tBiqRloYFwE/s400/simpsons+winnipeg.jpg

[caquricon]

EDIT: anyone interested in a GT3071 w/ SteedSpeed Mani setup and a tune for $1900?

Don't tempt people, mainly me lol

[CelestSpeed3]

Just do it.


Give in to peer pressure and self satisfaction.


That's one hell of a deal.

[horto]

go rent a mustang and terrorize the locals.

+1

add 100% coverage insurance and drive it like you stole it...
as for the rest of the weekend... it's winnipeg. not much else to do besides hookers and blow.

[standsideways]

long story short..

got AP today, set it up, DID NOT SAVE FACTORY ECU SETTINGS.

did i fail or am i okay?

[BlueStreak]

Got too excited, eh?

Its fine.

[standsideways]

man i had to drive home from toronto without touching it, i was SO excited!

now to learn from you mspeed folk.

ill be figuring it out allllll night :) :) :)

[-cj-]

From my understanding, the AP either comes with, or you can download the OEM ECU settings from Cobb. Apparently there's a good chance you'll get a newer update, depending on the last time your car was flashed at the dealer.

On another topic, who was the white speed3 that I saw...heard, cross Britannia and Hurontario? Heard your BPV go off and you had a black lip on the rear spoiler.

We gave each other the:

http://www.clubnet.org/~clave/TM3/fyea.png

[standsideways]

Spoke with Cobb, they said exactly that^

Spoke with some msf.org people with nothin other than :

"hahaha this guys got a 2012 and he's SOOO NEW"

Jesus lol those guys are bruttall

[Thrizzl3]

lmao! @ jerry

[loki]

Lol @ msf

[Elusivellama]

Question... is there a better way to secure the connection between the cable and the AP? My cable attaches directly (ie. not at a right-angle) to the connection at the bottom of the AP but it feels slightly loose and the locking tab on the back seems flimsy.

Also, my MAF logs from the other night are useless, I didn't do it right. Time to find an excuse to drive like 80km (50 miles as suggested by ATR's help file) lol.

[loki]

Question... is there a better way to secure the connection between the cable and the AP? My cable attaches directly (ie. not at a right-angle) to the connection at the bottom of the AP but it feels slightly loose and the locking tab on the back seems flimsy.

Also, my MAF logs from the other night are useless, I didn't do it right. Time to find an excuse to drive like 80km (50 miles as suggested by ATR's help file) lol.

you have an excuse. You need to find your new LTFTs...what other excuse do you need?

[fywdyl]

Question... is there a better way to secure the connection between the cable and the AP? My cable attaches directly (ie. not at a right-angle) to the connection at the bottom of the AP but it feels slightly loose and the locking tab on the back seems flimsy.

Also, my MAF logs from the other night are useless, I didn't do it right. Time to find an excuse to drive like 80km (50 miles as suggested by ATR's help file) lol.

Do you have the v2 or the v2b?

My connection is pretty snug and I usually have to press on the tab to release it. Maybe you can bend the tab a bit?

[Elusivellama]

@loki Getting the logs is reason enough, but I also like to have something tangible (ex. a bag full of Costco goodies) to bring back - multitasking! Am I correct in assuming that you do not shut the car off at any point (after driving 80km) before doing the MAF pulls?

@fyw I think I have a v2b. The cable looks like the one below:

http://a248.e.akamai.net/origin-cdn.volusion.com/sweft.sttav/v/vspfiles/photos/APV2B-OBDIICable-2.jpg?1329991235

[fywdyl]

@loki Getting the logs is reason enough, but I also like to have something tangible (ex. a bag full of Costco goodies) to bring back - multitasking! Am I correct in assuming that you do not shut the car off at any point (after driving 80km) before doing the MAF pulls?

@fyw I think I have a v2b. The cable looks like the one below:

http://a248.e.akamai.net/origin-cdn.volusion.com/sweft.sttav/v/vspfiles/photos/APV2B-OBDIICable-2.jpg?1329991235

Yep, that's the one.

My cable points downwards too... I mean it wiggles a bit if I try, but it isn't so loose that it'll slip off. It could be the clip then. Perhaps next NATOR meet or whatever, we can swap cables to see if you get the same prob.

edit: if you have some sort of mount, perhaps you can tape the cable to it so that the mount can hold it up.

[Elusivellama]

Yeah, the wiggle is what I'm talking about. The AP does not lose connection when I wiggle the cable or pull it lightly, and it doesn't slip off, but it just doesn't inspire confidence. I've considered getting one of my velcro zipties (with the extremely fine surface texture) and just securing it around the cable connection for extra support. I'll try it out later tonight and see how it goes.

Don't have a mount, just stuck a piece of black velcro to the dsc/afs panel. My AP was used and had a piece of velcro on the back. Seems to hold it very securely, but reading the AP screen at that angle is not a good idea if I'm going fast.

[Fack_Dude]

Blah blah blah. Just to do the faccking logs bro!

[Fack_Dude]

Oh yeah. Make sure you do a 4th gear wot starting from 2k and just step on the bitch to red line. And by the way dont be scared. ;)

[fywdyl]

Yeah, the wiggle is what I'm talking about. The AP does not lose connection when I wiggle the cable or pull it lightly, and it doesn't slip off, but it just doesn't inspire confidence. I've considered getting one of my velcro zipties (with the extremely fine surface texture) and just securing it around the cable connection for extra support. I'll try it out later tonight and see how it goes.

Don't have a mount, just stuck a piece of black velcro to the dsc/afs panel. My AP was used and had a piece of velcro on the back. Seems to hold it very securely, but reading the AP screen at that angle is not a good idea if I'm going fast.

I velcro mine to the driver side AC vent. AP holder when logging, AC vent when not. Easier to read IMO.

[SKYMP3]

On another topic, who was the white speed3 that I saw...heard, cross Britannia and Hurontario? Heard your BPV go off and you had a black lip on the rear spoiler.

We gave each other the:

http://www.clubnet.org/%7Eclave/TM3/fyea.png



**** Yea indeed

Your car deserve to be in the front row of the line.

[breakfasteatre]

Ok guys. If I jack the car up and smash the shit outa the exhaust hangers with a sledge eventually they will break and the exhaust will fall ord. If I touch it now it doesn't really move but the fact that it could doesn't inspire confidence. Any ideas as to how I could secure it? As we I haven't wiped my ads since I've been outa diapers. Any thoughts on how I could wipe my ads effectively?

[standsideways]

What in the world are you trying to do that you need to sledge off exhaust hangers?!

[Elusivellama]

Ok guys. If I jack the car up and smash the shit outa the exhaust hangers with a sledge eventually they will break and the exhaust will fall ord. If I touch it now it doesn't really move but the fact that it could doesn't inspire confidence. Any ideas as to how I could secure it? As we I haven't wiped my ads since I've been outa diapers. Any thoughts on how I could wipe my ads effectively?

You could use Starbucks paper napkins, that way you're saving money AND making a statement about their coffee.


What in the world are you trying to do that you need to sledge off exhaust hangers?!

He's trying to make a point :)

[fywdyl]

Ok guys. If I jack the car up and smash the shit outa the exhaust hangers with a sledge eventually they will break and the exhaust will fall ord. If I touch it now it doesn't really move but the fact that it could doesn't inspire confidence. Any ideas as to how I could secure it? As we I haven't wiped my ads since I've been outa diapers. Any thoughts on how I could wipe my ads effectively?

Drinking booze this early? These posts usually come out after a Friday night.

[loki]

Epic

I like llamas idea to wipe your ads with starbucks napkins


Tim hortons napkins will work too, but you have to use 3 times the amount to make the same point

[Elusivellama]

So I did better MAF calibration logs tonight. I saw LTFTs like this:

1.15V - 1.18V == [-8.59%]
1.3V - 1.97V == [-3.91%]
1.99 - 3.7V == [-2.34%] (I stopped logging past like 130~ g/s)


I did 4 logs and they appear to be pretty consistent for the approximate values detailed above. So I opened up ATR, went to the Sensor Cal. Tables > MAF Table A and did the following:

a) Highlighted 1.29 ~ 1.95, hit M and entered 0.9609
b) Highlighted 1.99 ~ 3.71, hit M and entered 0.9766


I didn't touch the voltages that did -8.91%, should I have? For voltages above 3.71 (next tier up was 3.75), should I have highlighted them all (from 3.75 ~ 5) and multiplied by (b)?

[Fobio]

Guys...this is why we have NATOR and MSpeed...and this guy obviously never got it. here's what I got as a PM this morning. I really don't care how "allot guys feel about me"...lol...I did report his abusive PM to me, since I really didn't want to have a dialogue with this guy, as I just called him out for saying all our engines need a rebuild...


Report this FOBIO, I will not lie down while you make up facts about me that are untrue, blame me for resale value of mazda's say I am not resourceful etc.. etc... now your going to report my pm to the moderator WOW!!! I called you out on all the crap you have said about me and you have absolutely not one shred of anything to back up anything you have said on here!! Now cause you can't bully me your going report my pm's!! There is nothing wrong with my pm's you just think you can go and make up facts about anyone and it's ok! Really if I needed help it would not be from you that's for sure! then going on and saying can't wait for me to sell my car i'm hurting your bottom line??? please a vehicle is your worst liability and last time I checked Mazda place 2nd behind suburu and ahead of honda for residual value so what is it your talking about? An issue is an issue regardless of it being 1 or 1,000. Really you like flaming ppl so much you should be at home on MS3 forums.

P.S the last time I checked you started all this with your unfounded comments in the closed thread with untrue and nonfactual statements maybe I should report you FOBIO!! I can now understand how allot of guys feel about you on here with the left field comments you choose to make without knowing all the facts. I listed known problems with the MS3 and I hit a nerve with you eh! You can find these facts anywhere, and never once did I mention my fuel dilution problem you need to relax and stop thinking you will make you money back on your speed because that will never happen and no you cant fix my problem there is only one solution and that is a rebuild period.

EDIT: So I guess the grand assessment from this individual is:

1. As a group, we were never able to observe, analyse and implement a solution to our problems.

2. That the effort we have put in as a group amounts to nothing but gibberish, vs a one-man crusade against Mazda, supposedly, all for the community.

3. That guys who can't figure it out and blame Mazda, is why we should all be lined up at the dealership everyday doing oil test so Mazda will rebuild our motors.

4. NATOR is an ineffective support network.

5. The culminated discoveries of all the users here and on MSF can be disregarded, be cause we don't know better than someone blaming Mazda for a crappy engine, when a catch can, upgraded fuel pump and other various DIY solutions can solve 90% of the issue of a mildly modded car.

6. That we are better not leave the hosue today because we need a rebuild. Yeah...Mazda should rebuild all our engines.

This is exactly the kind of bullshit we have been helping owners new and old slice thru. We all know guys that blew and why, and we are all doing things on a daily basis to help. The fact that these individuals have instead chosen to bash on the engine solely based on their personal issue while disregarding the sampling from the larger user group is downright ignorant. Financially speaking, any car is a liability, but nothing stops us from improving the ownership experience of our EMOTIONAL investment. Those of us who are considerate and looks at the larger picture rather than ourselves will understand that going online and generally bitching doesn't get us as a group, or individually anywhere...but if we can support each other, then we will geenrally have a positive impact on the community, our bottomline, and believe it or not, our resale value.

The guys who have recently bought or looking to buy a used one know what I'm talking about....a well maintained MS3 no long commands the ~$10K it used to. A ~100K MS3 is now $15K+. If they are lemons as this individual describes and we all need rebuilds, our resale value will certainly suffer as can be seen back in 2009 when the very first Gen1's were being dumped and guys were blowing. Fast forward to 2012, not so much...and we don't need the dumbassery of previous owners hanging over our heads when we now have enough support to solve anything that a JAPANESE AUTOMOTIVE MANUFACTURER decided not to since they really didn't want us to mod the car to begin with.

The struggle continues...

[2zoom]

Well said Vincent..

I know from my experience and i'm sure I can say the same for most of the Speed owners out there the knowledge and ideas that are offered on this forum are next to none by the senior speed owners.

This being my first boosted car I was not to sure with what to mod first but from the help of Nator and other speed owners I now have a much better understanding of how the Speed motor works and what to look out for and also the fixes that will prolong the life of motor.

Just my 2 cents...

[Booostin]

This guys engine is fawked for sure he needs a rebuild. His oil comes out like water due to insane amounts of fuel dilution which Mazda said was normal lol .... try 10% fuel dialution according to his thread on MSF. Correct me if I am wrong Fobio but shouldn't acceptable level of fuel dilution be no greater than .5 to 2 %?

[Fobio]

This guys engine is fawked for sure he needs a rebuild. His oil comes out like water due to insane amounts of fuel dilution which Mazda said was normal lol .... try 10% fuel dialution according to his thread on MSF. Correct me if I am wrong Fobio but shouldn't acceptable level of fuel dilution be no greater than .5 to 2 %?

His engine MAY be ****ed...but that doesn't mean all of ours are by association. Not knowing the full history of his car, myself, and anyone else on the Internet reading his rant MAY think that all our engines are ****ed. Who knows, perhaps he ****ed his own engine by implementing what HE personally believed to have been appropriate solutions...wonky oils, maybe even an incorrect intake without an air straightener, disregard for others advise, and maybe only posting but never really reading on the Internet.

Fact is, we are aware of fuel dilution and how it comes about. In the Mod Path series, Oil Thread, Ownership and Tuning Seminars, we acknowledge many of the shortcomings of the engine AND solutions. This individual, went his own way. And if it's so bad, that he has to rage at the Internet about, well, I know what I'd do....I'd get rid of the car/problem and bane of my existence.

[Kris"Speed3"CWP]

Guys...this is why we have NATOR and MSpeed...and this guy obviously never got it. here's what I got as a PM this morning. I really don't care how "allot guys feel about me"...lol...I did report his abusive PM to me, since I really didn't want to have a dialogue with this guy, as I just called him out for saying all our engines need a rebuild...



EDIT: So I guess the grand assessment from this individual is:

1. As a group, we were never able to observe, analyse and implement a solution to our problems.

2. That the effort we have put in as a group amounts to nothing but gibberish, vs a one-man crusade against Mazda, supposedly, all for the community.

3. That guys who can't figure it out and blame Mazda, is why we should all be lined up at the dealership everyday doing oil test so Mazda will rebuild our motors.

4. NATOR is an ineffective support network.

5. The culminated discoveries of all the users here and on MSF can be disregarded, be cause we don't know better than someone blaming Mazda for a crappy engine, when a catch can, upgraded fuel pump and other various DIY solutions can solve 90% of the issue of a mildly modded car.

6. That we are better not leave the hosue today because we need a rebuild. Yeah...Mazda should rebuild all our engines.

This is exactly the kind of bullshit we have been helping owners new and old slice thru. We all know guys that blew and why, and we are all doing things on a daily basis to help. The fact that these individuals have instead chosen to bash on the engine solely based on their personal issue while disregarding the sampling from the larger user group is downright ignorant. Financially speaking, any car is a liability, but nothing stops us from improving the ownership experience of our EMOTIONAL investment. Those of us who are considerate and looks at the larger picture rather than ourselves will understand that going online and generally bitching doesn't get us as a group, or individually anywhere...but if we can support each other, then we will geenrally have a positive impact on the community, our bottomline, and believe it or not, our resale value.

The guys who have recently bought or looking to buy a used one know what I'm talking about....a well maintained MS3 no long commands the ~$10K it used to. A ~100K MS3 is now $15K+. If they are lemons as this individual describes and we all need rebuilds, our resale value will certainly suffer as can be seen back in 2009 when the very first Gen1's were being dumped and guys were blowing. Fast forward to 2012, not so much...and we don't need the dumbassery of previous owners hanging over our heads when we now have enough support to solve anything that a JAPANESE AUTOMOTIVE MANUFACTURER decided not to since they really didn't want us to mod the car to begin with.

The struggle continues...

You are a total tool FOBIO still you post crap without knowing all the facts!! Yes all the problems coming to the DISI turbo can be resolved! But what you are doing is modifying a car from stock form and this is when you will get voided warranty. I bought this car under the assumption that it was a finished product, when in fact it is not! I have Mazda warranty and MAP warranty and I have no intention other than the use of Mazdaspeed parts and accessories to enjoy my ride!

You go off saying we all need rebuilds when in fact I said my solution is this as none of your known fixes will resolve my issues, I do nothing to resale value when the Kelly black book on mine is $18,800 with 58K why don't you work out straight line depreciation and figure out your value it will be pretty close!! FOBI YOUR A TOOL just like the oil thread you started with no fuel dilution figures. WOW.

I have my facts in hand none of which you know but want to ASSUME all the time. If I bought a car with no warranty then maybe I could do all the mods that you say will cure my lemon but the fact is this is a new car and I should not have to do any of that. Maybe I should go buy a Garret turbo cause my stock one has been replaced already so I can ensure it does not go again. Maybe I should do the VVT fix on my car that Mazda wont do so the problem is solved once and for all not just replace parts with same failure prone parts!

Really FOBIO does it give you extra clout on here to make it look like your the MAZDA hero saving all our bottom lines from the natural rate of depreciation by flaming someone without facts or knowledge or all second hand information?

Really get a Life and stop judging ppl and spreading B.S bottom line I bought a new car and should not have to worry about returning to stock because the mods that could cure my car are not warranty approved PERIOD end of story. I for one will not spend $40,000 on a car to do what Mazda should of for them to fu**K me !!!

FOBIO the new TM3 GOD lets all bow to the newest word of the land!!

[Kris"Speed3"CWP]

His engine MAY be ****ed...but that doesn't mean all of ours are by association. Not knowing the full history of his car, myself, and anyone else on the Internet reading his rant MAY think that all our engines are ****ed. Who knows, perhaps he ****ed his own engine by implementing what HE personally believed to have been appropriate solutions...wonky oils, maybe even an incorrect intake without an air straightener, disregard for others advise, and maybe only posting but never really reading on the Internet.

Fact is, we are aware of fuel dilution and how it comes about. In the Mod Path series, Oil Thread, Ownership and Tuning Seminars, we acknowledge many of the shortcomings of the engine AND solutions. This individual, went his own way. And if it's so bad, that he has to rage at the Internet about, well, I know what I'd do....I'd get rid of the car/problem and bane of my existence.

Again your ASSUMING!! all the parts were installed by the Mazda dealer and yes the CAI had an air straightener in it and the only wonky oil put in the car was the Amsoil heavy duty diesel and marine oil 15W/40 that MCI instructed mazda dealer to put in the car 7mths before turbo replacement!! SO really what are you getting at. I have a problem with my car, how can you assume that someone will think they all do???

THanks FOBIO for ASSUMING11

[Thrizzl3]

Holy faaaaccckkkk :blah

[Booostin]

Dont close this thread let us work out our issues lol...

[2zoom]

Ding round 2....:pop

[Fack_Dude]

:blah :blah :blah At the end of the day we all drive shit boxes. So stop whining Chris!!!!!!!!

[Fack_Dude]

If you want a car without problems go buy a Toyota bro!

[Kris"Speed3"CWP]

I bought a 2010 MazdaSpeed3 so I would not have to modify a thing the car is supposed to be finished product with warranty & peace of mind. I paid dealer $ 650 to put a Mazdaspeed CAI on car and would of paid for an exhaust for the dealer to install as well had one been available. This would of been it for me besides the tranny fluid swap under warranty to resolve issues, and resolve drive-train lash im a happy camper with no soot on back of car.

Not everyone wants to buy a new car and worry about implications. So continue to assume you know everything and know what everyone else is thinking, and somehow you are doing everyone else a favor by posting you outrageous comments about me or what I might be doing or what MCI thinks of all you guys! Bottom line Mazda knows they have problems with the DISI motor and will never admit it to anyone or fix it. SO keep dreaming they are your best friend!

If I bought a GTR or a 2013 Shelby 500 these issues would not exist or even an SRT product maybe other issues but the customer support and the aftermarket still exist for their high end line. Mazda has stopped all things Mazdspeed after 2010 there is no support for this extreme car. WHY?? I did not sign up for that!

[Booostin]

If anyone cares to do some of their own research on this issue then it starts here and you can come to your own conclusions

http://www.mazdaspeedforums.org/forum/f436/2010-oil-analysis-69009/index1.html

[Kris"Speed3"CWP]

If you want a car without problems go buy a Toyota bro!

I would just like my problem fixed no more B.S from MCI!!

[Fobio]

Dont close this thread let us work out our issues lol...

Let's take a walk down memory lane, shall we...and we'll use you, yoour car, and your car's previous owner as an example...

In 2008, your car's owner was banned from TM3. He'd rage on everyone, milk Avante for warranty claims, and he car never ran right... he might've took Mazda Canada to court, so he put his money where his mouth is.

He was one of the most vocal owner, and he made it be known that Mazda had it out for him. He was also pioneering tuning with an unproven tuning device/solution that worked for awhile, but contributed to him running lean and blowing up.

I had a hard time dealing with this owner...he was also convinced his car is ****ed, and Mazda and everyone else, including Cobb and CP-e owed him a new engine.

This owner in turn did get a new MS3...and a MS6. And wanted to leave them stock. After speaking with me and seeing the results, he decided toget me to tune his car.

At the present moment, his car(s) make more HP than he did back in the day with more mods, and it's been running great...much longer than he's been used to and the extra power is having a toll on his equipment; drifting around in MS6 may break its rear diff mounts, including shafts. He's not going after Mazda for warranty...

Point of the story? Kris, you're nothing new...and you're not doing it right...at least Vlad was funny when he raged, and he actually took Mazda to court, instead of miling Avante for warranty claims, and new exhaust tips.

And oh, the moment you bring up warranty, we basically have nothing to talk about. Despite the fact that most of us learned from Vlad's experience, you decided to go about it exactly the same way, expecting different results....some ppl callthat insanity.

EDIT: ...and now on to you, Boostin...you bought a car, that even the previous owner told you not to buy and the rest of us agreed. then you find issues...surprise, surprise...then you read some hypochrondriac rants and you think you're in the same boat. He bought a new car with resolvable issues...you bought a used car with unresolvable issues. Guess what we're thinking looking in from the outside...

[BlueStreak]

KITTEHHH!!!

http://forgifs.com/gallery/d/198568-1/Stand-cat-it-was-you.gif?

[fywdyl]

^ That gif never fails to amuse me...

[Booostin]

then you read some hypochrondriac rants and you think you're in the same boat.

I never said I was in the same boat. BTW my car is running like a champ... other people on here seem to have more issues than me lol

[Kris"Speed3"CWP]

Point of the story? Kris, you're nothing new...and you're not doing it right...at least Vlad was funny when he raged, and he actually took Mazda to court, instead of miling Avante for warranty claims, and new exhaust tips.

And oh, the moment you bring up warranty, we basically have nothing to talk about. Despite the fact that most of us learned from Vlad's experience, you decided to go about it exactly the same way, expecting different results....some ppl callthat insanity.

EDIT: ...and now on to you, Boostin...you bought a car, that even the previous owner told you not to buy and the rest of us agreed. then you find issues...surprise, surprise...then you read some hypochrondriac rants and you think you're in the same boat. He bought a new car with resolvable issues...you bought a used car with unresolvable issues. Guess what we're thinking looking in from the outside...

Actual I paid for tips not avante I solved the problem with soot and MCI had to cough up allot more than just tips!!! I have not hit Avante up for warranty besides a 2 stage decarb that was suppose to resolve issues, headlight and swaybar bushings don't mean anything. again your talking trash.

Never heard of Vlad and the car he owned previously and the way he solved his problem is what I'm involved with too but why would I tell you anything as it seems your airing everyone's laundry out on here whether they like it or no and without their consent.

You need to check your attitude at the door and think before you start airing ppl's laundry!! Where did I post anything about my FUel dilution issues in the last 2 days on TM3 you want to rip ppl for comments they make which are truthful and try to bury their cred with B.S about issues they might be having when they never brought it up!

Talk about your own problems please stop airing ppls laundry

[fywdyl]

So... let me get the story straight...

Kris is having problems with his car.
Some ppl are getting paranoid about getting the MS3.
Fobio has a laundry side business? MSpeed laundry FTW.

[Fobio]

Talk about your own problems please stop airing ppls laundry

You're doing a great job yourself. The ppl that matter, and intelligent enough to read through the bullshit are the ones that I care to help. And indeed, your problems are yours and yours alone, it seems...do you really think that YOUR issue is prevalent to EACH and EVERY MS3 out there on the road?

It seems you're more upset that no one takes your seriously, and not calling YOU a Mazda god? Please tell us more how the MCI owes you a new engine?

EDIT: Just gonna leave these right here:


LMAO so funny the dealer says you cannot just buy the sensor but yet you can uninstall and install one no problem!! What scammers the dealer is all the labor to take of the intake manifold inter-cooler new gaskets and injector seals, removing fuel line from HPFP!!! All for what?? The sensor is on the passenger side of the fuel rail and is in plain view when you open hood, unplug, unscrew with socket and install new one once you unplug fuses and relieve fuel pressure!! What Donkey's for real smarten up MCI!!

Thanks for the offer but I still have warranty and I even got a rental car for 3days to boot all for a sensor that can really be replaced on its own!! ROFL and they waste ppl's time on warranty denial to pay for B.S repairs like this?? WOW!!

I guess you proved the integrity of the fuel rail is not compromised if you remove and replace the sensor!


Wish I had seen this when they replaced my fuel rail would of been free install :D

[horto]

I agree - Fobio, you're a tool!



You are a total tool FOBIO still you post crap without knowing all the facts!! *

* FOBIO the new TM3 GOD lets all bow to the newest word of the land!!






...A tool that's helped the community, leading the charge with group buys, and parts orders. A tool that's helped us derive more value from our cars, go faster, be safer, and get more enjoyment out of our cars. A tool that's helped to spread knowledge and better the community overall. And in my case, a tool that probably saved my engine from leaning out and zoom zoom booming.

A tool, yes, but just like a wrench, or a hammer, or a knife, or google. Just more personable!

[mazdaspeedemon3]

...A tool that's helped the community, leading the charge with group buys, and parts orders. A tool that's helped us derive more value from our cars, go faster, be safer, and get more enjoyment out of our cars. A tool that's helped to spread knowledge and better the community overall. And in my case, a tool that probably saved my engine from leaning out and zoom zoom booming.

A tool, yes, but just like a wrench, or a hammer, or a knife, or google.

+1 fairly new member here and Fobio has been nothing but helpful and informative to me!

a little upset i missed Fobio's seminars too, i would have benefited big time from them... timing wasnt there for me..

[Booostin]

KITTEHHH!!!

http://forgifs.com/gallery/d/198568-1/Stand-cat-it-was-you.gif?

Ill see your ^^^^^^ and I will raise you:

http://i.imgur.com/n6FuH.gif

[Fobio]

I agree - Fobio, you're a tool!

...A tool that's helped the community, leading the charge with group buys, and parts orders. A tool that's helped us derive more value from our cars, go faster, be safer, and get more enjoyment out of our cars. A tool that's helped to spread knowledge and better the community overall. And in my case, a tool that probably saved my engine from leaning out and zoom zoom booming.

A tool, yes, but just like a wrench, or a hammer, or a knife, or google.


+1 fairly new member here and Fobio has been nothing but helpful and informative to me!

a little upset i missed Fobio's seminars too, i would have benefited big time from them... timing wasnt there for me..

Thank you for the kind words guys...cheque's in the mail! LOL

After another 9 - 6 day at the office, I draw strength from you guys to keep it going....whether tuning, doing the GB's or just orgainzaing other shit for the forums. I appreciate the opportunity to keep myself busy during this past year or so while I was working thru my divorce.

[zzz3]

I appreciate the opportunity to keep myself busy during this past year or so while I was working thru my divorce.

i heard loki has a sister.

[rzapata]

Looks like people are cooking up this thread. :) Carry on, I'm just here to watch. :chuckle

[Fobio]

i heard loki has a sister.

if she looks like loki...hmmmm...

his wife has a friend...I think she likes guys...


Looks like people are cooking up this thread. :) Carry on, I'm just here to watch. :chuckle

I feel like pulling a Emeril and go "BAM!!!!"

[boyracer]

I agree - Fobio, you're a tool!









...A tool that's helped the community, leading the charge with group buys, and parts orders. A tool that's helped us derive more value from our cars, go faster, be safer, and get more enjoyment out of our cars. A tool that's helped to spread knowledge and better the community overall. And in my case, a tool that probably saved my engine from leaning out and zoom zoom booming.

A tool, yes, but just like a wrench, or a hammer, or a knife, or google. Just more personable!

Well put, I couldn't agree more. And I plan on tapping into that knowledge of his further.

[rzapata]

I feel like pulling a Emeril and go "BAM!!!!"

Don't do it! There's still more of us that need your expertise! :thumbsup

Screw the non-believers! Those who do not believe, will not learn, and those who do not learn... well.... KABOOM!

[Kris"Speed3"CWP]

[QUOTE=Fobio;913840]You're doing a great job yourself. The ppl that matter, and intelligent enough to read through the bullshit are the ones that I care to help. And indeed, your problems are yours and yours alone, it seems...do you really think that YOUR issue is prevalent to EACH and EVERY MS3 out there on the road?

It seems you're more upset that no one takes your seriously, and not calling YOU a Mazda god? Please tell us more how the MCI owes you a new engine?


Can you please show us the post where I say every MS3 has the same issue as mine, I'm sure others would love to see this as well as me! I have always said my car has a very unique issue and it was not cause by a dealer installed CAI and re-circulation valve. I have had this issue since day one and only realized after warranty work was suppose to rectify problem in Nov 2010 when I had UOA done!

With the Oil rising over 2" on the dipstick to in-between the kink in as little as 20km after fresh oil change. there is an serious issue. If this was a diesel with this high fuel dilution or rising oil level they would of narrowed it done to a leaky injector and resolved issue already. How is it MCI will do no mechanical test or verify with simple level verification after oil change. They won't because to start taking apart engine will cost more than a scan tool, hence why avante put synthetic in my car instead of the conventional motor oil that I paid for and specifically stated in a word document I gave them prior to signing work order for that service. Could it be Mazda does not want engine to pop! MMMMHHHHH I wonder. But they also do not want to do mechanical diagnostic to cure problem but will fix if engine is given to them broken! I have given them my UAO's and they can see what will happen if conventional oil is used and now it's obvious that I have to watch every dealer put oil in the car from the 1L bottles to make sure my engine goes sooner than later.

So keep on posting posts and trying to do what ever it is that you want accomplished, but read I NEVER SAID ever all MAZDASPEED3 had my problem J.A !!!! I have other UAO's that state other wise and that MS3 can run within the industry standard for fuel dilution! I even think CelestSPeed posted up his 2 UAO's one at 2.3% and other <1% fuel dilution.

Hey maybe your just upset that I never came to you for help?? I never recalled asking or inquiring for it but hey since your so great at pulling old posts please post where I tried to get your help! I have way more technical help available to me where I work thank-you very much!

[Kris"Speed3"CWP]

I agree - Fobio, you're a tool!









...A tool that's helped the community, leading the charge with group buys, and parts orders. A tool that's helped us derive more value from our cars, go faster, be safer, and get more enjoyment out of our cars. A tool that's helped to spread knowledge and better the community overall. And in my case, a tool that probably saved my engine from leaning out and zoom zoom booming.

A tool, yes, but just like a wrench, or a hammer, or a knife, or google. Just more personable!

the blind will always follow!!

[Mr Wilson]

Wow, need a step ladder for that horse of yours?

[Kris"Speed3"CWP]

At the end of the day I bought a car that was supposed to be a finished vehicle that had power and is rare. Not a work in progress with warranty! If I wanted to extremely mod a MS3 I would of bought used with no warranty! The goal was to get away from my modification days of 5.0L mustangs extreme modding.
I wanted a car I could just drive and do nothing and be unique! I guess I was misinformed!!:bang:bang

P.S I have a few engine builder that can find exact cause and build me a properly functioning motor, but at the end of the day MCI will say and authorized Mazda dealer has not found a defect and therefore refuse to foot the bill! My only mistake was buying this particular MS3.

[MajesticBlueNTO]

At the end of the day I bought a car that was supposed to be a finished vehicle that had power and is rare. Not a work in progress with warranty! If I wanted to extremely mod a MS3 I would of bought used with no warranty! The goal was to get away from my modification days of 5.0L mustangs extreme modding.
I wanted a car I could just drive and do nothing and be unique! I guess I was misinformed!!:bang:bang

you weren't misinformed. you didn't do enough research

besides, we don't mod for power.. we mod for safety first.

[horto]

At the end of the day I bought a car that was supposed to be a finished vehicle that had power and is rare. Not a work in progress with warranty! If I wanted to extremely mod a MS3 I would of bought used with no warranty! The goal was to get away from my modification days of 5.0L mustangs extreme modding.
I wanted a car I could just drive and do nothing and be unique! I guess I was misinformed!!:bang:bang

P.S I have a few engine builder that can find exact cause and build me a properly functioning motor, but at the end of the day MCI will say and authorized Mazda dealer has not found a defect and therefore refuse to foot the bill! My only mistake was buying this particular MS3.

http://cdn.hometheaterforum.com/5/5a/5af8a1d2_523ac920_beating_a_dead_horse.jpg

[Impressive]

http://cdn.hometheaterforum.com/5/5a/5af8a1d2_523ac920_beating_a_dead_horse.jpg

Thankfully the Tims that I was drinking when I saw this got spit to the right of my MacBook....LOL!!!

[horto]

http://i.imgur.com/WPolR.png

http://i.imgur.com/DL8F7.png

http://i.imgur.com/V0oIK.png

[rzapata]

^^ Where are you guys getting these pictures from?? :chuckle

[horto]

<-- internet ninja, voracious pot stirrer

http://media4.teenormous.com/items/7.media.bustedtees.cvcdn.com/d-6-bustedtees.2fd4fa2de3417175ae3a0136aeee4661.gif

[Thrizzl3]

Lol

[2zoom]

OMG these are too funny....

[loki]

I do not know the details of Kris's car so I won't comment on that

I will say that Fobio is an awesome resource and a great guy, even though he is sometimes misunderstood in some of his posts and comes off as a crazy ranting person....:chuckle

either way loki supports him 100%

Anyway, after reading through all these posts the only real thing I noticed was that someone mentioned that I have a sister....let's leave it at that.

My wife does have a friend, who happens to be staying at my place right now....let's leave it at that...

[S.F.W.]

My wife does have a friend, who happens to be staying at my place right now....let's leave it at that...

Pics or didn't happen ;)

[loki]

Pics or didn't happen ;)

no need for pics...just ask Fobio...

[Thrizzl3]

lmao..

[BlueStreak]

She's back, Chris? Giggidy.

http://profile.ak.fbcdn.net/hprofile-ak-snc4/50499_186810446735_7649793_n.jpg

[Fobio]

She's back, Chris? Giggidy.

http://profile.ak.fbcdn.net/hprofile-ak-snc4/50499_186810446735_7649793_n.jpg

I don't think she ever leaves...I wonder if she's ever there when the wife's away....hmmm....maybe Chris stores her under the basement stairs...oh wait, that's where his turbo goes...hahahahahaha

[loki]

I don't think she ever leaves...I wonder if she's ever there when the wife's away....hmmm....maybe Chris stores her under the basement stairs...oh wait, that's where his turbo goes...hahahahahaha

Ziiiinnnnggggg!!!!

[Fobio]

Ziiiinnnnggggg!!!!

No one understands me like you do.

[Fack_Dude]

Hey chris.

You gotta hook that chick up with vince so that he can claim his man hood back! ;)

[Fobio]

Hey chris.

You gotta hook that chick up with vince so that he can claim his man hood back! ;)

I'll show you my ****ing manhood...actually...**** it...it's cold outside...lol...

But yeah, I'll take one for the team....lol

EDIT: call dave ASAP

[-cj-]

Vince is doing it right. Wives just slow down your modding path. :P

BTW Any NATOR installs or cruises happening this Sunday?? I'm getting kicked out of the house for the day.

[boyracer]

Vince is doing it right. Wives just slow down your modding path. :P

BTW Any NATOR installs or cruises happening this Sunday?? I'm getting kicked out of the house for the day.

Possibly. Details later.

[-cj-]

BTW thought Mazda was bad with voiding warranty

http://www.1addicts.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=666435&stc=1&d=1332910286

http://www.1addicts.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=666436&stc=1&d=1332910286

http://www.1addicts.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=666437&stc=1&d=1332910286

[SomeGuy]

Random thought I had on my way back to work today...I occasionally with my stage 1 tune and stock fueling experience the fuel pressure drop above 4500rpm due to the new fueling logic on the 2nd gens dumping in loads of fuel to keep the engine from going lean. Thing is, this tank of gas I haven't had one bit of an issue and the interesting part is I'm on 91 octane (can't get 94 in North Bay) running the 91 tune (usually 94 gas with 93 tune and sometimes the 91 tune). So I ponder to myself and think, 94 doesn't have as much energy in it technically so it needs a smidge more fuel to get the right AFR? If that's the case then dropping to 91 fuel and 91 tune for those experiencing the limits of the stock fueling system may keep them within the limits?

Thoughts?

[Elusivellama]

@boyracer I'm interested

@cj That's a strongly worded TSB, lol. Read the whole thing... sounds like they plan for owners that chip their cars and even go so far as to put a tripwire in the ECU. Also, a short shifter is considered powertrain modification?! Really? Isn't that like saying that aftermarket gas pedals are modifications to the throttle input?

@someguy fortressofcomfort on msf was running a stage 1 91 octane map, if I recall correctly, and his 2012 MS3's pump pressure dipped into 770~ 800ish.


Also, I calibrated my MAF this morning and drove into work. 0 LTFT for about 5 mins then I saw values between -1% and -2.3% (which is good, so far). Nothing like the original LTFTs I was getting before with like -8.59% ~ -10%, going down to -3.59% ~ -2.34%. I guess I'll just drive it some more and see where the LTFTs stay at around - will probably do some more calibrations at some point.

[MajesticBlueNTO]

@boyracer I'm interested

@cj That's a strongly worded TSB, lol. Read the whole thing... sounds like they plan for owners that chip their cars and even go so far as to put a tripwire in the ECU. Also, a short shifter is considered powertrain modification?! Really? Isn't that like saying that aftermarket gas pedals are modifications to the throttle input?

@someguy fortressofcomfort on msf was running a stage 1 91 octane map, if I recall correctly, and his 2012 MS3's pump pressure dipped into 770~ 800ish.


Also, I calibrated my MAF this morning and drove into work. 0 LTFT for about 5 mins then I saw values between -1% and -2.3% (which is good, so far). Nothing like the original LTFTs I was getting before with like -8.59% ~ -10%, going down to -3.59% ~ -2.34%. I guess I'll just drive it some more and see where the LTFTs stay at around - will probably do some more calibrations at some point.

no tripwire in the ECU, the Warranty record for the car automatically gets updated with the TD1 code in Audi's database - no technician manual entry required - if the scanner detects unauthorized ECU code (probably by doing a checksum comparison ...reference to the specified vs. actual). I wonder how that plays out with APR's tune that says it is 100% non-detectable to dealer scan tools.


after you flash the ECU with an updated calibration.. especially a MAF calibration, it will take some time, 20 or so miles (Cobb says 50), for Short Term Fuel Trim (STFT) to make it into LTFT. which is why LTFT was 0 for about 5 minutes before becoming -1% and -2.3%.

[standsideways]

Random thought I had on my way back to work today...I occasionally with my stage 1 tune and stock fueling experience the fuel pressure drop above 4500rpm due to the new fueling logic on the 2nd gens dumping in loads of fuel to keep the engine from going lean. Thing is, this tank of gas I haven't had one bit of an issue and the interesting part is I'm on 91 octane (can't get 94 in North Bay) running the 91 tune (usually 94 gas with 93 tune and sometimes the 91 tune). So I ponder to myself and think, 94 doesn't have as much energy in it technically so it needs a smidge more fuel to get the right AFR? If that's the case then dropping to 91 fuel and 91 tune for those experiencing the limits of the stock fueling system may keep them within the limits?

Thoughts?

Well ultra 94 has more ethanol than 91 does it not?

[loki]

Well ultra 94 has more ethanol than 91 does it not?

94 should contain zero ethanol

Edit: I might have been thinking of shell premium...

I found this with a quick search

Good morning ,

Thank you for contacting Petro-Canada Customer Service online.

Ethanol is only present in Petro-Canada Regular Clean 87 Octane (10%) and Plus Clean 89 Octane (5%). Petro-Canada SuperClean 91 Octane gasoline does not contain any Ethanol.

Ethanol content in SuperClean 94 or Ultra 94 is 10%.

For information on Petro-Canada's fuel, please click on the link below:

http://retail.petro-canada.ca/en/fue...vings/141.aspx


Should you require further assistance please do not hesitate to contact us.

Regards,



Suncor Energy Products Partnership
Customer Relations
Phone ~ 1-800-668-0220
Fax ~ 1-800-837-1228
Email ~ custsvs@suncor.com

[alhope34]

Taken from Petro's site:

"Does Ultra 94 contain ethanol? Does Petro-Canada still offer an ethanol-free gasoline?
Ultra 94 contains ethanol. Due to the fact that various fuel grades are blended at the point of sale, most grades of Petro-Canada fuel may now contain up to 10% ethanol. This represents a change from the previous state, where premium fuel was ethanol-free at Petro-Canada."

I have been told before that the easy way gas companies up the octane rating is by adding ethanol, as it is harder to burn.

[standsideways]

Yea the way they measure gas is weird.

Ultra 94 octane is 110?
AKI IS 94( anti knock index)


This is why The Europeans think there 98 is better than our 94...little do they know this isn't the case.

[loki]

Llama, drive about 80 - 100kms, then calibrate MAF, then you have to drive at least another 80 - 100kms to see how the LTFTs are. exactly what MBNTO said. Once you flash the MAP the ECU resets all that stuff

[alhope34]

^^ Their 95 RON is equal to our 91 AKI. Our 94 AKI should be equal to their 98 RON. generally there is a 4 point difference.

[standsideways]

Not too bad then..but the price, ouch.

[Elusivellama]

How much more is Petro-Canada 91 compared to 87? Shell is 15cts more, Esso is 16cts more.

[Mr Wilson]

Filled up today for $1.52....yay (Petro 94).

Gas is supposed to go up $0.03 tonight.

[Elusivellama]

Llama, drive about 80 - 100kms, then calibrate MAF, then you have to drive at least another 80 - 100kms to see how the LTFTs are. exactly what MBNTO said. Once you flash the MAP the ECU resets all that stuff

Yeah, I drove 80km and did 4 logs, then calibrated MAF. I'll get my opportunity to drive another 100+km this weekend. When doing MAF logs, is it 80 - 100km then MAF calibration without once turning off the car (basically no doing any shopping runs or whatever)? Then after the ECU is learning the new settings, is it another 80 - 100km in one trip, or broken up over several trips?

@mr wilson I've pretty much stopped buying coffee on a regular basis due to this. Cost of coffee < premium gas, I just buy a pound of starbuck beans and grind that shit myself at home.

[alhope34]

How much more is Petro-Canada 91 compared to 87? Shell is 15cts more, Esso is 16cts more.

I wouldn't know, but the price difference is retarded. It only takes about 2 cents a litre more to make 91 vs 87 yet they charge a ridiculous amount because they know that the people who get it have no choice because their vehicle requires it. Well, I guess there are also the retards in their corollas and base civics that fill with 91 or 94 because they "swear they can feel the power". In Quebec there is only a 6-8 cent difference from 87 and 91.Usually when I fill up in Montreal before heading home their 91 will be the same price as toronto, but their 87 will be 7-8 cents more.

[loki]

Yeah, I drove 80km and did 4 logs, then calibrated MAF. I'll get my opportunity to drive another 100+km this weekend. When doing MAF logs, is it 80 - 100km then MAF calibration without once turning off the car (basically no doing any shopping runs or whatever)? Then after the ECU is learning the new settings, is it another 80 - 100km in one trip, or broken up over several trips?

you can take as long as you want, turn off the car as much as you want. Just don't disconnect the battery or flash a MAP which will reset the ECU

[Elusivellama]

I wouldn't know, but the price difference is retarded. It only takes about 2 cents a litre more to make 91 vs 87 yet they charge a ridiculous amount because they know that the people who get it have no choice because their vehicle requires it. Well, I guess there are also the retards in their corollas and base civics that fill with 91 or 94 because they "swear they can feel the power". In Quebec there is only a 6-8 cent difference from 87 and 91.Usually when I fill up in Montreal before heading home their 91 will be the same price as toronto, but their 87 will be 7-8 cents more.

What bullshit... 15 - 16ct difference, and it's just the same fuel, but blended at the pump from the storage tank. Like you said, it's taking advantage of those who require 91 octane or preying on fools who think its a treat for their car. Also it's misleading to label it 'premium fuel'. It's not premium, it has more octane in it - that doesn't make it better.

@loki thanks, that is something I wasn't sure about.

[Mr Wilson]

Anyone use EBC rotors?

[breakfasteatre]

ive used them on my subaru, nice stuff

ebc rotors with the 22b front and rear calipers imported from japan

[rzapata]

Bahaha! One try! :chuckle Videos would have been better.

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-ZHoKEEYGp5E/T3OLW1csdqI/AAAAAAAAATE/ok2gkNoOsW0/s576/IMG_00003.jpg

[breakfasteatre]

interesting read on oil change intervals:

http://forums.thecarlounge.com/showthread.php?5630926-BMW-Sludging-Example...&p=76559187&viewfull=1#post76559187

now, i have no idea who the individual is, and whether or not he is qualified to say what he has about oil, but it definitely makes you think about things

[boyracer]

interesting read on oil change intervals:

http://forums.thecarlounge.com/showthread.php?5630926-BMW-Sludging-Example...&p=76559187&viewfull=1#post76559187

now, i have no idea who the individual is, and whether or not he is qualified to say what he has about oil, but it definitely makes you think about things

interesting.... I wonder if there is any truth to this?

[Elusivellama]

Bahaha! One try! :chuckle Videos would have been better.

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-ZHoKEEYGp5E/T3OLW1csdqI/AAAAAAAAATE/ok2gkNoOsW0/s576/IMG_00003.jpg

Remember what I told you? Twist it on lightly until the pattern is lopsided (tilted to the left) by a little bit, then twist it hard until it locks in place and the pattern is lined up. Looks like you nailed it in one shot.

The pattern looks lined up with the rest of the car (and not lined up from where you're looking at it from the driver's seat, right)? And how are you liking it? It makes a significant difference in my car, I found.

[Fobio]

I can't speak on that thread, but in our boosted car where we basically cook our oil, laws of physics and chemistry are not on our side.

[rzapata]

Remember what I told you? Twist it on lightly until the pattern is lopsided (tilted to the left) by a little bit, then twist it hard until it locks in place and the pattern is lined up. Looks like you nailed it in one shot.

The pattern looks lined up with the rest of the car (and not lined up from where you're looking at it from the driver's seat, right)? And how are you liking it? It makes a significant difference in my car, I found.

Oh yeah, I remembered .:thumbsup That's pretty much what I did and followed Jamie's instructions too. Works like a charm. :)

It felt weird at first because there's no contour but a few shifts later, you'd notice more smoothness. It's great that a simple mod like that will make that difference. Although, it's cold without gloves. :chuckle

Next stop, bushings and short shift plate. :)

[breakfasteatre]

I can't speak on that thread, but in our boosted car where we basically cook our oil, laws of physics and chemistry are not on our side.



The post was refering to a tdi engine. Direct injection turbi as well but the oil has to put up with soot as well. Not trying to start an argument, I'm fine with my 7000 km dd oil changes but there is something to be said about a communities recommendations on oil change intervals where uoa analysis is so prevalent compared to ours which is non existant

[Fobio]

The post was refering to a tdi engine. Direct injection turbi as well but the oil has to put up with soot as well. Not trying to start an argument, I'm fine with my 7000 km dd oil changes but there is something to be said about a communities recommendations on oil change intervals where uoa analysis is so prevalent compared to ours which is non existant

no arguement...just curiosity and intrigue.

I wonder in what kind of operating condition can allow them to run 30K duty cycles...they could be using top of the line whatever F1 unicorn blood, but certain operating conditions would certainly break down the oil before even a 10K change interval, from common understanding.

having said that, I think there are UOA's to back up relatively shorter intervals for high-boosted engines. for some lower boost applications, maybe fuel dilution and coking will be less of an issue.

Full disclosure: I track the car...I don't fall under the normal maintenance schedule, so I look at it a bit differently.

[Elusivellama]

It felt weird at first because there's no contour but a few shifts later, you'd notice more smoothness. It's great that a simple mod like that will make that difference. Although, it's cold without gloves.

After a while you'll get so used to it that you won't think about going back to the stock knob. I've had it for 2 winters and summers already, sometimes I like to grab and hold onto the knob with my bare hand to feel the burn (+17hp right there)

[Fobio]

After a while you'll get so used to it that you won't think about going back to the stock knob. I've had it for 2 winters and summers already, sometimes I like to grab and hold onto the knob with my bare hand to feel the burn (+17hp right there)

enough about stroking knobs...lol...how does it shift?

[rzapata]

enough about stroking knobs...lol...how does it shift?

Ahaha! :chuckle

Well, mine's a bit smoother. It feels like it glides easier with the heavier knob. I'm sure it will be much much better once the plate and the bushings are in. But that's all for this weekend.

[Iceman_F1]

enough about stroking knobs...lol...how does it shift?

If you are asking for personal interest, you drove my car at the Ian Law school last summer and I had it then. Though you probably don't remember.

[Fobio]

If you are asking for personal interest, you drove my car at the Ian Law school last summer and I had it then. Though you probably don't remember.

I wanted to see what riz's impressions are since he just got it. And he's doing the mod in stages. The street impression is more inline with the average users' experience.

[Iceman_F1]

I wanted to see what riz's impressions are since he just got it. And he's doing the mod in stages. The street impression is more inline with the average users' experience.

True. Just curious. Thought you might have wanted one for yourself lol. I did it in stages as well. First was the knob, then the plate, then just yesterday I finally got around to the bushings. Each step made it better and more solid in shifting for me but curious on others thoughts as well.

[fywdyl]

Battle Royale!!!

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-x-iJoSmdke0/T2d3PoTbvTI/AAAAAAAAAqI/54wLfQUZ6hQ/s1600/BattleRoyale.jpg

[Mr Wilson]

How long did it take you to remember?

+ we didn't break anything doing the shifter bushing install, but both have cuts thanks to the sharp plastic.

[loki]

nice!

that was really bugging you lol

[boyracer]

Battle Royale!!!

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-x-iJoSmdke0/T2d3PoTbvTI/AAAAAAAAAqI/54wLfQUZ6hQ/s1600/BattleRoyale.jpg

LOL.... that must have been bothering you all night. I bet after you hit the "Post Quick Reply" button you felt a huge sigh of relief.

[boyracer]

How long did it take you to remember?

+ we didn't break anything doing the shifter bushing install, but both have cuts thanks to the sharp plastic.

My FU@KING car likes to bite

[fywdyl]

How long did it take you to remember?

+ we didn't break anything doing the shifter bushing install, but both have cuts thanks to the sharp plastic.


nice!

that was really bugging you lol


LOL.... that must have been bothering you all night. I bet after you hit the "Post Quick Reply" button you felt a huge sigh of relief.

OMG, you have no idea... It's like being able to shit after having constipation for a long time.

[Mr Wilson]

Hahaha

[Fobio]

what do you guys think of these bad ass intakes?

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-SHMH4xjsEP4/Tr7AOKSQ7JI/AAAAAAAAC08/m_Jgp55-_LQ/s1600/DSCF5096%255B1%255D.JPG

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/--zJrFl92_Jo/Tr6-j6qEMJI/AAAAAAAAC0M/RiVq-DopSiI/s1600/DSCF5098%255B1%255D.JPG

[Thrizzl3]

ohhhh boyyy....lmao! GB anyone?

[zzz3]

what do you guys think of these bad ass intakes?

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-SHMH4xjsEP4/Tr7AOKSQ7JI/AAAAAAAAC08/m_Jgp55-_LQ/s1600/DSCF5096%255B1%255D.JPG

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/--zJrFl92_Jo/Tr6-j6qEMJI/AAAAAAAAC0M/RiVq-DopSiI/s1600/DSCF5098%255B1%255D.JPG

Looks like I left my condoms at your house

:No Homo Smiley

[rzapata]

Ooohh, it's back! :chuckle

[Thrizzl3]

apparently an extra 40HP with these suckers

[rzapata]

apparently an extra 40HP with these suckers

No doubt, look at the opening on that thing. Wait, which one goes into the TIP? :chuckle

[Thrizzl3]

no need for TIP..straight to the turbo...because RACECAR!

[rzapata]

Well, we might as well call this "one time use" because the turbo'll just eat it up the first time you hit WOT. :chuckle

[breakfasteatre]

seriously though. wtf is that

[Elusivellama]

Used toilet paper intake, environmentally friendly and biodegradable.

[Thrizzl3]

seriously though. wtf is that

paper mache intake lol vince was bored and posted a thread on it last month

[rzapata]

Biodegradable indeed. Or it'll just be incinerated along with the oil that'll go with it in the combustion chamber. :chuckle

[Thrizzl3]

people were actually thinking it was real..which was so hilarious

[Fobio]

Group buy ends at midnight. Or whenever April fools end for you. For some it's a year long event. Lol

[loki]

Looks like I left my condoms at your house

:No Homo Smiley

What's all that brown stuff?

Which guy's ass did you stick that in?

10 bucks says MPS

[Fobio]

What's all that brown stuff?

Which guy's ass did you stick that in?

10 bucks says MPS

you missed the group buy...April Fool's day was not your day...

ie. you ain't no fool!

[loki]

Yesterday was April fools?

[loki]

Raise your hand if you had asparagus piss like a muuuhhhfuuuh today

*hand raised*

[Thrizzl3]

what?

[zzz3]

What's all that brown stuff?

Which guy's ass did you stick that in?

10 bucks says MPS

but he said i could have his speed :(
http://s16.postimage.org/a07wh18v7/imager_php.gif

[loki]

but he said i could have his speed :(
http://s16.postimage.org/a07wh18v7/imager_php.gif

Sigh....he tricked you...

[boyracer]

Raise your hand if you had asparagus piss like a muuuhhhfuuuh today

*hand raised*

LOL, I forgot that we had that. ahhh, it all makes sense now. I was wondering what kind of sickness I was coming down with.

[Thrizzl3]

Simon: What kind of browser do you use?
Me: wtf?
Simon: Chrome?
Me: FFFFFFUUUUUUUU

...

going to take pics tomorrow of the shit that my catch can is collecting..pretty good at doing its job.

[loki]

Forget the pics and just remove those chrome things

[Thrizzl3]

i will....btw what was that video i was supposed to watch....

[loki]

Tampon prank

[Fack_Dude]

Hey Phil,

Since you has that chrome shit on your speed. I think we should ban you from the speed brotha clan until you get that shit off......:bang

[Thrizzl3]

Hey Phil,

Since you has that chrome shit on your speed. I think we should ban you from the speed brotha clan until you get that shit off......:bang

Wow...really lol? that's pretty sad.

[Fack_Dude]

Wow...really lol? that's pretty sad.

Better yet, Im gonna hook you up and get you the same stickers that darkrice has on his car..lol ;)

[Thrizzl3]

wow..........

[standsideways]

There's a speed with chrome other than emblems?!?!?

Pics or it doesnt exist LOL

[boyracer]

Hey Phil,

Since you has that chrome shit on your speed. I think we should ban you from the speed brotha clan until you get that shit off......:bang


Wow...really lol? that's pretty sad.


Better yet, Im gonna hook you up and get you the same stickers that darkrice has on his car..lol ;)


wow..........

LOL.

[Mr Wilson]

There's a speed with chrome other than emblems?!?!?

Pics or it doesnt exist LOL

http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee491/pdubniak/P1010431.jpg

[2zoom]

Tampon prank

Chris your one sick puppy...lol that video was so wrong

[Fack_Dude]

Chris your one sick puppy...lol that video was so wrong

I watched the video while eating breakfast this morning. nom nom nom. :chuckle

[2zoom]

I watched the video while eating breakfast this morning. nom nom nom. :chuckle

LMAO!!!

[Thrizzl3]

There's a speed with chrome other than emblems?!?!?

Pics or it doesnt exist LOL

FML...

[Zoom Zoom Boy]

Phil, you still have that chrome shit on your car? Dude, I told you to take that shit off the first week you had it. And tints, where are your tints?

I say we temp ban Phil from the Speed section until he stops embarassing all MS3 owners everywhere. All in favour, say 'Popeye's'.

[Thrizzl3]

i've had no free time :( plus it is cold. i'll try when it gets warmer

[Zoom Zoom Boy]

i've had no free time :( plus it is cold. i'll try when it gets warmer

Talk to my ban hand... ;)

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[Fack_Dude]

You have no free time? But you got the time to be a post whore lol

[Thrizzl3]

I'm leaving for work soon....not free til friday.

the ****? who changed my avatar?