Random MS3 Chat Thread

[Turok]

Read this (http://www.cobbtuning.com/v/vspfiles/files/support/accesstuner/help_guides/AccessTUNER_HelpFile_MAZDASPEED.pdf) cover to cover... its boring as hell but its the place to start.

Thanks :)

[horto]

note to all: "really want", "hopefully", and "soon" are not action words.

[Turok]

note to all: "really want", "hopefully", and "soon" are not action words.

Lol, ya I should have put an "Action Item" in my post.

Action item: Use AP

[Snotrocket]

Lol, ya I should have put an "Action Item" in my post.

Action item: Use AP

It should say "learn everything about AP"

or it may read "buying new engine"

[joedemarco]

I agree with Snot.

Read the cobb help file first, cross reference with Abilor's guide, then come back with questions.

Thank you! will start that tonight!


Hey Joe,

Here are a few pointers for you bro!

#1 Get a job that pays you money.
#2 Buy the cobb ap
#3 Get a tune mspeed

And you will be good to go!


You gots too much time on your hands........lol

I do have extra time lol, I'm done school now.

I am working, not making great money though...got a hook up?

[Thrizzl3]

black speed 3's rule the road..followed by red...and then white :)...cosmic blue is in there somewhere lol

[Mr Wilson]

Sigh......

[Thrizzl3]

we came to this conclusion last night...

[Mr Wilson]

Double sigh.....

[Fack_Dude]

black speed 3's rule the road..followed by red...and then white :)...cosmic blue is in there somewhere lol

Black speeds are slow especially the one driven by thrizzle. ;)

[Thrizzl3]

Black speeds are slow especially the one driven by thrizzle. ;)

i can admit it's slow...but faster than your car when there is snow on the ground :P

[Fack_Dude]

Yawn.

[boyracer]

here we go again

[Fack_Dude]

i can admit it's slow...but faster than your car when there is snow on the ground :P

Just remember. Im fast and your slow. ;) lol

[Thrizzl3]

Just remember. Im fast and your slow. ;) lol

you're too fast...

[Mr Wilson]

Thats what she said

[Thrizzl3]

not what she said...this weather sucks. my windows kept getting fogged up..

[loki]

not what she said...this weather sucks. my windows kept getting fogged up..

Use the defroster

[Thrizzl3]

Use the defroster

i did..then it got too hot..so i turned it off...and the windows fogged up again..****

[loki]

i did..then it got too hot..so i turned it off...and the windows fogged up again..****

Turn down the temperature

[Thrizzl3]

Turn down the temperature

20*....

[Snotrocket]

If you can't figure out how to keep your windows defrosted you probably shouldn't be driving lol.

[loki]

If you can't figure out how to keep your windows defrosted you probably shouldn't be driving lol.

he keeps busting off shots from his gat which is smoking up his windows

[Snotrocket]

Holding his gat sideways no doubt.

[boyracer]

Hahahahaha

[Thrizzl3]

If you can't figure out how to keep your windows defrosted you probably shouldn't be driving lol.

i can't roll down the mother****** windows...yet.

[boyracer]

i can't roll down the mother****** windows...yet.

did you just get them tinted?

[Snotrocket]

i can't roll down the mother****** windows...yet.

Why would you wanna do that? It's raining....

[Thrizzl3]

did you just get them tinted?

yes.


Why would you wanna do that? It's raining....

well the reason behind my windows fogging up was because i was playing baseball and my body temperature was higher than the car interior temperature..hence why my windows were fogging up. doesn't mean i shouldn't be driving...lol

[loki]

Boyracer, you'd know if you came to the mutha ***kin Nator Timmies Meet

[boyracer]

^^^^ ahhh, nice! Glad to hear.

[Snotrocket]

yes.



well the reason behind my windows fogging up was because i was playing baseball and my body temperature was higher than the car interior temperature..hence why my windows were fogging up. doesn't mean i shouldn't be driving...lol

You probably smell terrible also. Poor car.

[boyracer]

Boyracer, you'd know if you came to the mutha ***kin Nator Timmies Meet

ya, well.... I got no excuse. Next one I'm there.

[Thrizzl3]

You probably smell terrible also. Poor car.

i smell better than the people who work at the racetrack...**** they stink. Speedstick FTW

[Snotrocket]

Lolol

[Fobio]

phil...turn on the a/c.

even if you turn the temps to 25*, the a/c to draw out the moisture in the air.

[rzapata]

Visors cure fogging.. At least that's what it did for me. :)

[loki]

Visors cure fogging.. At least that's what it did for me. :)

And it's jdm yo!

F**** visors

[rzapata]

And it's jdm yo!

F**** visors

Oh yes, absolutely! :chuckle

Honestly though, they work great especially today. :thumbsup

[loki]

Oh yes, absolutely! :chuckle

Honestly though, they work great especially today. :thumbsup

Are you able to have your windows a bit down on the highway?

[rzapata]

Are you able to have your windows a bit down on the highway?

Yup, and no splashes at all.

[loki]

Yup, and no splashes at all.

Thats pretty good

I still don't like them...

[rzapata]

Thats pretty good

I still don't like them...

Fair enough. :chuckle

[Thrizzl3]

Yup, and no splashes at all.

i have window visors on my sedan...they're alright

[SomeGuy]

Aeroforce group buy: http://www.torontomazda3.ca/forum/showthread.php?62864-Aeroforce-Interceptor-Group-Buy&p=933609

We need 11 peeps lol all you skanks should get in on it :)

[Booostin]

red speed 3's rule the road..followed by black...and then white :)...cosmic blue is in there somewhere lol

Finally... something I agree with ;)

[loki]

Originally Posted by Thrizzl3

I loooooove the cock!!!!


Originally Posted by Boostin

Finally... something I agree with

I knew it....

[Elusivellama]

Phil, isn't there a defrost mode on the air flow mode dial? My 2007 Mazda 3 had it, and its hard to imagine the speed not having it as well. Turns the compressor on to remove moisture from the air, but the ac light does not come on (you can hear the compressor kick in if you have the driver's door open when you hit the switch).

[Booostin]

I knew it....

Now your not the only one :)


P.S. why did you take a o out of my usernamename lol

[Thrizzl3]

Phil, isn't there a defrost mode on the air flow mode dial? My 2007 Mazda 3 had it, and its hard to imagine the speed not having it as well. Turns the compressor on to remove moisture from the air, but the ac light does not come on (you can hear the compressor kick in if you have the driver's door open when you hit the switch).

Ya tried it this morning and it worked

[Snotrocket]

http://img.tapatalk.com/18eb820e-c98c-5b0d.jpg

Fak ATP sent me the wrong 90deg elbow :-/.

[fywdyl]

Aeroforce group buy: http://www.torontomazda3.ca/forum/showthread.php?62864-Aeroforce-Interceptor-Group-Buy&p=933609

We need 11 peeps lol all you skanks should get in on it :)

Snow Performance WMI group buy http://www.torontomazda3.ca/forum/showthread.php?62039-GI-Snow-Performance-Meth-Kit

We need 10 peeps lol all you skanks should get in on it :)

[fywdyl]

Fak ATP sent me the wrong 90deg elbow :-/.

So no BT build this week?

[Snotrocket]

So no BT build this week?

doubtful

[loki]

Now your not the only one :)


P.S. why did you take a o out of my usernamename lol

Sorry, I didn't take into consideration that you couldn't spell

[Mr Wilson]

Fak ATP sent me the wrong 90deg elbow :-/.

Shitty.

[Snotrocket]

Shitty.

Actually just the wrong clamp. Paul (Mr. Wilson) can you pick one up for me? 38mm vband clamp for the inlet side...

[Mr Wilson]

JRP have 'em?

[Booostin]

Sorry, I didn't take into consideration that you couldn't spell

http://www.vacationrentalsdirectory.net/i/artimages/19_1279189154.jpg

[Snotrocket]

JRP have 'em?

Apparently they do yea.

[Mr Wilson]

Should be able to go tomorrow. PM me your details.

[-cj-]

Ya tried it this morning and it worked

Just hit "AUTO" on your climate control. The AC will always run and your car won't fog up... and since you drive slow anyway, you won't notice the HP the AC steals. :chuckle

[Snotrocket]

Should be able to go tomorrow. PM me your details.

No rush, only if you are in the area. I'll pick it up from you next time i come that way.

[Mr Wilson]

So just the one 38mm clamp? I'll let you know when I have it. Should be before Friday.

[boyracer]

Just hit "AUTO" on your climate control. The AC will always run and your car won't fog up... and since you drive slow anyway, you won't notice the HP the AC steals. :chuckle

Hahahaha. Poor Phil

[Thrizzl3]

Just hit "AUTO" on your climate control. The AC will always run and your car won't fog up... and since you drive slow anyway, you won't notice the HP the AC steals. :chuckle

i drive slow..compared to fast_dude lol

[Snotrocket]

So just the one 38mm clamp? I'll let you know when I have it. Should be before Friday.

Just the clamp for the inlet side.. its slightly bigger then the outlet side.

[Booostin]

i drive slow..compared to fast_dude lol

Hey, it beats getting pulled over for running red lights.

[Mr Wilson]

Just the clamp for the inlet side.. its slightly bigger then the outlet side.

If I go in saying that will they understand?

[Snotrocket]

If I go in saying that will they understand?

I would think so...

[Mr Wilson]

I have zero faith........that said, I will go.

[joedemarco]

lmao @ Paul!!!

[MarkWB]

Where was the "speed" in the Mazdaspeed Protege again? I'd say it had some learning to do for sure...

[loki]

Where was the "speed" in the Mazdaspeed Protege again? I'd say it had some learning to do for sure...

Thanks

[breakfasteatre]

Where was the "speed" in the Mazdaspeed Protege again? I'd say it had some learning to do for sure...

cool story

[Fobio]

saw this on MSF...lol...

maybe the skinny jeans will hammer the point home...lol..

http://i1059.photobucket.com/albums/t429/EricTrujillo6969/engineblown.jpg

[BlueStreak]

Hahaha! Good one.

[rzapata]

saw this on MSF...lol...

maybe the skinny jeans will hammer the point home...lol..


That a boy or a girl?? Damn skinny jeans! :chuckle

[loki]

That a boy or a girl?? Damn skinny jeans! :chuckle

Either way admit you got a hard-on

[rzapata]

Either way admit you got a hard-on

Hard on the fingers for wanting to rip those skinny jeans apart and throw in the burner. :chuckle

[Thrizzl3]

Hard on the fingers for wanting to rip those skinny jeans apart and throw in the burner. :chuckle

you wear skinny jeans don't you?

[rzapata]

you wear skinny jeans don't you?

Well, if wiping the floor with it is considered "wearing" it, then yes! :chuckle

[Elusivellama]

Installed a JDM part today. Gained 10hp.

http://i853.photobucket.com/albums/ab96/Elusivellama/8aed5f54.jpg


Complete with JDM box and instructions.

[rzapata]

^^ Cabin filter?

[Elusivellama]

Not just any cabin filter. A JDM cabin filter.

[fywdyl]

Not just any cabin filter. A JDM cabin filter.

Where'd you order from and how much?

[rzapata]

Not just any cabin filter. A JDM cabin filter.

Nice!


Where'd you order from and how much?

Nextmod sells them. I got mine from them. Not sure if it's JDM though, I forgot if it had japanese boxes and all.. :)

Also, on a side note, who needs a 1L bottle of Motul 8100 X-Cess 5W-40?

[SomeGuy]

w00t...fuel pumps are in. Booked with Jimmy on the 2nd at 1pm to get fuel pump and downpipe installed :)

[Fack_Dude]

w00t...fuel pumps are in. Booked with Jimmy on the 2nd at 1pm to get fuel pump and downpipe installed :)

Thats it?

[Elusivellama]

Where'd you order from and how much?

Flipdady-san. $37 after tax. A bit pricy for cabin air filters (my old ones were nasty and falling apart) but who cares! JDM!

[horto]

http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb65/MADDOGZONER/warning_small_jdm-1.jpg

ugh...

[SomeGuy]

Thats it?

LoL what else would you suggest I install? *realizes the danger of said question*
No BT, No Meth...

[chris.joh]

LoL what else would you suggest I install? *realizes the danger of said question*
No BT, No Meth...

intercooler :chuckle

[Mr Wilson]

But, but, but why?.........

BT is a safety mod for the DISI engine.

[horto]

LoL what else would you suggest I install? *realizes the danger of said question*
No BT, No Meth...

PINK FOGS!!!!!!!!!!!!

[rzapata]

LoL what else would you suggest I install? *realizes the danger of said question*
No BT, No Meth...

You know, BT may mean other things too. :chuckle

[loki]

But, but, but why?.........

BT is a safety mod for the DISI engine.

THIS

you can buy mine....

[Elusivellama]

w00t...fuel pumps are in. Booked with Jimmy on the 2nd at 1pm to get fuel pump and downpipe installed :)

CPE DP of course. I'm likely going CPE DP as well soon-ish

[Booostin]

THIS

you can buy mine....

You seriously selling?

[loki]

You seriously selling?

I go back and forth in my mind daily....

[Booostin]

I go back and forth in my mind daily....

lol... I guess you want to get all the other issues sorted out first?

[loki]

lol... I guess you want to get all the other issues sorted out first?

I'm convinced it's an exhaust leak which the BT install would deal with, since I will replace all the gaskets

[Fack_Dude]

LoL what else would you suggest I install? *realizes the danger of said question*
No BT, No Meth...

Big turboooooooooo and nos=bad ass

[boyracer]

I'm convinced it's an exhaust leak which the BT install would deal with, since I will replace all the gaskets

You're not going to sell. Just do what you are doing, gathering all required parts & before you know it you'll have every thing for the BT install.

[breakfasteatre]

my mother****in cabin filter is made in germany EDM WHAT

[horto]

THIS

you can buy mine....

BUMBACLAAAAAAAAAAAT WEAKSAUCE

[SomeGuy]

CPE DP of course. I'm likely going CPE DP as well soon-ish

Uhhh...re-read my post, I have a downpipe to be installed, and it is the cpe one :)

[Elusivellama]

^ Yes, thats what I said. CPE DP = DownPipe

@Alex don't blame me when your German cabin filter starts having electrical problems.

[loki]

f****k

[SomeGuy]

^ Yes, thats what I said. CPE DP = DownPipe

@Alex don't blame me when your German cabin filter starts having electrical problems.

lol oh, I didn't realize you meant of course you got the cp-e downpipe...I thought you meant next up is the cp-e downpipe.

[Addison]

I go back and forth in my mind daily....

Don't cop out now...

[loki]

In winnipeg...bored...

Entertain me!

[boyracer]

In winnipeg...bored...

Entertain me!

I got nothing

[rzapata]

In winnipeg...bored...

Entertain me!

If you've got TV, turn to APTN (Rogers 70) and watch Jerry McGuire! :chuckle

[mazdaspeedemon3]

In winnipeg...bored...

Entertain me!

Here's a fun fact about Winnipeg... The first A&W drive-in in Canada opened in Winnipeg in 1956 and it’s still in operation! go check it out and make sure you bring me back some souvenirs! :)

[loki]

F****k

Watching 1000 ways to die

[boyracer]

Here's a fun fact about Winnipeg... The first A&W drive-in in Canada opened in Winnipeg in 1956 and it’s still in operation! go check it out and make sure you bring me back some souvenirs! :)

Personally, I would rather not wander around Winnipeg at night.

[loki]

Personally, I would rather not wander around Winnipeg at night.

Agreed

I think we drove passed it in the cab

[mazdaspeedemon3]

F****k

Watching 1000 ways to die

hahaha.


Personally, I would rather not wander around Winnipeg at night.

why not? best time to go out... thats when all the night walkers are out... Lol

[breakfasteatre]

walk off home run brett lawrie

[Mr Wilson]

Tosh.0


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P9mBCh4d3-U&feature=related

[boyracer]

why not? best time to go out... thats when all the night walkers are out... Lol

ummm, cause it's Winnipeg. I assume there is very little night life, which means not very many people on the streets, in turn that means that it is very easily to be accosted by some idiots. I believe Winnipeg has one of the highest crime rates in Canada. Last thing We want is loki ending up in some farmers basement/ dungeon.


walk off home run brett lawrie

Nice. The Jays need to string a few wins in a row. For a very young team, they are keeping up with the rest of the division.

[breakfasteatre]

my poo is now less gayer than your poo

http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/471166_10100779311895000_48918352_59877623_4803460 7_o.jpg


and if you were lucky, you are now gayer for seeing my poo last night

[mazdaspeedemon3]

looks like its playing peek-a-poo


my poo is now less gayer than your poo

http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/471166_10100779311895000_48918352_59877623_4803460 7_o.jpg


and if you were lucky, you are now gayer for seeing my poo last night

[loki]

Mr Wilson that vid was awesome. But seriously how much dick did that one kid touch...


Boy racer, some members would like to see Loki in a dungeon...

Breakfasteatre, I saw your poo and I'm a better person today because of it

[boyracer]

There was a lot of ball slapping in that video. Did anyone else notice the the guy who won, what he was doing each time before a ball slap. He would grab onto the sides of his cargo shorts and pull, so there would be no lag in the crotch area.

[Thrizzl3]

Tosh.0


lmfao...

[Mr Wilson]

Did not notice, then again.....you (boyracer) were the only one to spot the trouser snake at Timmies way back when.

[Thrizzl3]

In winnipeg...bored...

Entertain me!

go make some random coco bears....entertain us while you are at it

[loki]

Did not notice, then again.....you (boyracer) were the only one to spot the trouser snake at Timmies way back when.

Agreed

[loki]

go make some random coco bears....entertain us while you are at it

Coco bear is sleeping

[Thrizzl3]

Coco bear is sleeping

i call bullshit...

http://i455.photobucket.com/albums/qq273/guranteed_justice/tumblr_lswd9zRamQ1qbmttpo1_500.jpg

[loki]

Sign up for you prosport shit


Coco bear IS sleeping

[Thrizzl3]

Sign up for you prosport shit


Coco bear IS sleeping

do i need gauges? lol

[loki]

do i need gauges? lol

No comment

[Thrizzl3]

No comment

LOL! i'm contemplating....boost and something else..

[SomeGuy]

Tomorrow = fun :)
Downpipe and Fuel Pump @ 1pm @ Street Performance
And silly me just snagged a TMIC and OCC from chris.jon
Now just need some plugs and a bpv :)

[boyracer]

Did not notice, then again.....you (boyracer) were the only one to spot the trouser snake at Timmies way back when.

Don't know what you're talking about.

[BlueStreak]

Did not notice, then again.....you (boyracer) were the only one to spot the trouser snake at Timmies way back when.

He's like a woman who always seems to notice if other women are wearing wedding/engagement rings... except he looks for guys packing heat.

[loki]

LOL! i'm contemplating....boost and something else..

If you really want 2, go boost and oil pressure

[BlueStreak]

I would recommend Boost and EGT if you go with 2.

Oil pressure is good to monitor once you build a motor as the chances of losing oil pressure increase then. Stock blocks generally will not spontaneously lose pressure and if they do, it's likely because you left bits of rod scattered on the road about 3 seconds prior.

EGTs are affected as soon as you start tuning the car and are a great way to see the effects of increasing/decreasing boost/timing as there is a direct relationship.

[fywdyl]

What if you go BT? Would oil press be beneficial by then?

I know EGT is good for tuning, but once the tune is finalized, do you still need to monitor EGT?

[Elusivellama]

In winnipeg...bored...

Entertain me!

http://mindlesscomfort.files.wordpress.com/2009/08/are-you-not-entertained.jpg


F****k

Watching 1000 ways to die

#768 - Take a stroll in downtown Winnipeg at night.

[horto]

and if you were lucky, you are now gayer for seeing my poo last night

http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/ee239/Aldiwitch/AWZ%20stuff/BrainBleachKitteh.jpg

[BlueStreak]

What if you go BT? Would oil press be beneficial by then?

I know EGT is good for tuning, but once the tune is finalized, do you still need to monitor EGT?

If you plan on doing road course racing then EGTs are definitely something to keep an eye on. Then again, so is oil pressure... to an extent. Ha.

Monitoring oil pressure after going BT isn't "necessary". As long as you ensure your oil feed/return lines are properly secured to the new turbo, you should have no leaks and will therefore not lose pressure.

The thing about oil pressure and having to monitor it is that you won't see a gradual decrease in pressure to 0 over time. Its either you have pressure or you don't on a stock block. Oil pressure is maintained with proper bearing clearances, a functioning oil pump and no leaks at the oil filter and turbo. Generally, these things never change over the lifetime of a car/motor (well, you swap filters for oil changes but you get what I mean).

So, you could be driving along with a small oil leak after a new BT install and you look at your oil pressure gauge. All looks well. You keep driving up to the point where the oil pickup tube can no longer scavenge oil from the pan to pump through the motor. Its literally seconds until the motor spins a bearing. Unless you happen to look at the gauge at the exact time the pump can no longer pump oil, the oil pressure gauge is useless.

With built motors, you've disassembled the motor, played with bearing clearances and mucked around with pretty much everything at that point. This is when monitoring oil pressure becomes extremely important. Bearing clearances could be off, the motor not assembled properly etc.

EDIT: This isn't meant to discourage anybody from not running an oil pressure gauge. Its just to paint a picture of what goes on.

[fywdyl]

^ Thanks Dave!

Looks like I'll have lots more reading to do...

[BlueStreak]

No worries, Anson.

If you really want to monitor something oil related, I would recommend oil temperature if you plan on tracking the car.

[loki]

Blue, can you also please comment about what people will need to run the oil gauges.

Its not about discouraging people, its about people getting what they need and getting it done properly

Please comment in the GB sections (spin off conversion, adaptor plates etc.)


Keep up the good work!

[MajesticBlueNTO]

No worries, Anson.

If you really want to monitor something oil related, I would recommend oil temperature if you plan on tracking the car.

^ what he said...these motors get HOT. after a session on the track, it's not uncommon for us to leave the engine running for 5 minutes or so to cool down

[rzapata]

Thanks for the info Dave..

Just another thing to clarify with oil pressure.. If for example, there's an oil leak somewhere, shouldn't the oil pressure decrease because there's less volume? Or is the effect of gravity negated since the oil is constantly moving within the system?

Also, isn't the pressure related to temperature, which means that with an oil pressure gauge you're basically monitoring both?

[BlueStreak]

Thanks for the info Dave..

Just another thing to clarify with oil pressure.. If for example, there's an oil leak somewhere, shouldn't the oil pressure decrease because there's less volume? Or is the effect of gravity negated since the oil is constantly moving within the system?

Also, isn't the pressure related to temperature, which means that with an oil pressure gauge you're basically monitoring both?

Oil leaks don't spontaneously show up. If you never touch the motor where oil is pumped through it, you'll never ever leak. Granted, you need to get your oil changed every X KMs so there's always a chance (and it has happened but is extremely rare). If you do happen to lose the motor shortly after an oil change, tow the car to Mazda, give them the keys to your car and have them replace the motor. It was their mistake and they should fix it (assuming Mazda changed your oil).

If you swap in a bigger turbo, part of your due diligence is checking for leaks after the turbo was installed. You look from the top, crawl under, rev the engine, check again. Check again in a few days. If it isn't leaking now, it won't leak later.

Pressure IS related to temperature. I have monitored oil pressure vs. coolant temperature many a time and notice a 5-10PSI drop in oil pressure as coolant temperatures surapass 200*F in stop and go traffic. You can expect the same effect if you're tracking the car. At the end of the day, it is not something to be worried about. The only time things become an issue is if oil pressure dips below 20PSI and at that point, it'll be 0 within a few seconds as there is something seriously wrong with the motor.

[rzapata]

Ok, thanks for clarifying further Dave.. I think this reinforces what I know so far.

[BlueStreak]

Ok, thanks for clarifying further Dave.. I think this reinforces what I know so far.

Snazz :)

[MajesticBlueNTO]

besides, we already have a ghetto oil pressure "gauge" in the oil pressure warning light which goes off when there is a catastrophic drop in oil pressure.

[CelestSpeed3]

I think the stock oil pressure switch is set at 5psi.

[standsideways]

A g
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[Elusivellama]

Oil siphon... anybody haz, or know where to buy one for super dirt cheap? For reducing the oil level in my engine, I think it's been overfilled by a little bit (roughly a little less than 1/4" above the Max mark).

[Fobio]

Oil siphon... anybody haz, or know where to buy one for super dirt cheap? For reducing the oil level in my engine, I think it's been overfilled by a little bit (roughly a little less than 1/4" above the Max mark).

MBNTO bot an oil pump/extractor a little while ago...

[Elusivellama]

It's ok, I fixed it, thx Vince. As a side note, the oil already smells of fuel and it's been barely 500km since the oil change. Lowering my OCI down to like 5000 - 5500km as a result even on Rotella T6.

[Fobio]

It's ok, I fixed it, thx Vince. As a side note, the oil already smells of fuel and it's been barely 500km since the oil change. Lowering my OCI down to like 5000 - 5500km as a result even on Rotella T6.

you're running rich...typical Gen2 stock or OTS tune.

[Elusivellama]

you're running rich...typical Gen2 stock or OTS tune.

Thanks. This will be fixed later this summer after I go stage 2 and get you to protune the mofo :)

[joedemarco]

looking for a simple answer to these questions.

1: is a test pipe is similar to a downpipe in that I need and ungraded FP in order to safely run it?
2: will it make my stock exhaust slightly louder?
3: I see that SU is highly recommended. Is there any other TP that are recommended, preferably ones that you have experience with.

I have tried to search for this info, on google and the forum but havent got a definitive answer. please post a link if you have a link that answers these (mainly the first) and if you do, dont bother answering them as I will read the link.

Thanks.

[alhope34]

1) generally not for a first gen, but if you get less than 1650 or so psi at wot then yes
2) yes
3) I used to have the SU TP and fitment was very good.

[Mr Wilson]

1: Exhaust is downpipe, mid pipe and cat back. DP and MP have cats. Some aftermarket DP are single piece DP/MP. Pump is alway recommended.
2: Yes
3: Not sure

[fywdyl]

1) TP removes the 2nd CAT, as per the two above, pump is recommended
2) Yes if you get catless, maybe not if you get the UR resonated one
3) Neil (majesticblueNTO) and I both have the UR combo (DP + TP) and both are resonated TPs. Neil says that it's not much louder than stock, and you heard my car the other day... I don't think it's much louder, just a little deeper tone.

[Fobio]

chk out the Guardian Angel thread. I need to confirmm order ASAP.

[cSPEED]

Joe if you just want a louder exhaust at almost no cost just cut the resonators. I've been told numerous times my car sounds like an STi cause it does haha. Doesn't drone on highways but when you rip it it sounds beastly. I have a downpipe too though.

[BlueStreak]

Yesterday was a big day for my car. It has finally passed the 100,000 KM mark.
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7252/7142790773_c35602a88c_c.jpg

I would like to raise a toast to the biggest pain in my ass. I still love you so much <3

Also note the sweet mileage on one tank of gas. Pretty sure I could've gotten it to 500KMs easy. I just didn't want to run out of gas... again x3...

Pretty sweet mileage for a forged motor :)


You've been driving like a bitch.

Yes. :(

[Fack_Dude]

Yesterday was a big day for my car. It has finally passed the 100,000 KM mark.
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7252/7142790773_c35602a88c_c.jpg

I would like to raise a toast to the biggest pain in my ass. I still love you so much <3

Also note the sweet mileage on one tank of gas. Pretty sure I could've gotten it to 500KMs easy. I just didn't want to run out of gas... again x3...

Pretty sweet mileage for a forged motor :)



Yes. :(


Faack dude. Did you just drive to China and back??? You were at 90k a month ago bro.

[BlueStreak]

The drive to New Jersey packed on some serious miles :(

[Fack_Dude]

not 10k worth....lol

[loki]

when your car is that badass, you earn double miles

think about it

[mazdaspeedemon3]

Hey guys, anyone know if these parts are compatible with the Gen2 (all parts would be coming from Gen1)

Weathertech digital floor liners
Cobb Accessport v2
test pipe
Cobb SRI
Cobb TIP
also would a 215/45/18 size tire throw off the tachometer or anything else?

Thanks,

[Mr Wilson]

Weathertech digital floor liners - no
Cobb Accessport v2 - should be
test pipe - yes
Cobb SRI - yes
Cobb TIP - yes
also would a 215/45/18 size tire throw off the tachometer or anything else - shouldn't, that's the stock tire size on the Gen 1, not thinking of this size for your car are you?

[mazdaspeedemon3]

Weathertech digital floor liners - no
Cobb Accessport v2 - should be
test pipe - yes
Cobb SRI - yes
Cobb TIP - yes
also would a 215/45/18 size tire throw off the tachometer or anything else - shouldn't, that's the stock tire size on the Gen 1, not thinking of this size for your car are you?

k Thanks Wilson, reason i asked is a member is selling stuff from his gen1 and hes got winter tires that size, j/w if they'd work... but i dont want to mess up the tach so i think ill just stick with stock size winters.

[SomeGuy]

That tire size is off by 2%
http://www.miata.net/garage/tirecalc.html

[Mr Wilson]

^^^3% is the magic number isn't it?

[loki]

Gonna remove R-S3's and put back on winter wheels until I can sort all this shit out....

[Fack_Dude]

Gonna remove R-S3's and put back on winter wheels until I can sort all this shit out....

Facck that. Put the rim tires on my car and use my enkies.......lol

[cSPEED]

Gonna remove R-S3's and put back on winter wheels until I can sort all this shit out....

I would search for your showoff thread if you had one but I'm too lazy so... do you mind posting a pic of your car on RS3's?

[cSPEED]

Yesterday was a big day for my car. It has finally passed the 100,000 KM mark.
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7252/7142790773_c35602a88c_c.jpg

I would like to raise a toast to the biggest pain in my ass. I still love you so much <3

Also note the sweet mileage on one tank of gas. Pretty sure I could've gotten it to 500KMs easy. I just didn't want to run out of gas... again x3...

Pretty sweet mileage for a forged motor :)



Yes. :(

Wow Dave, our cars are like twins except yours likely has no stock parts remaining, heh. My cars at 99,500 and a CWP 2007 as well

[loki]

I would search for your showoff thread if you had one but I'm too lazy so... do you mind posting a pic of your car on RS3's?

you can search from now till the cows come home you wont' find my "show off thread" cuz it doesn't exist.

there are no pics of my car on TM3

[cSPEED]

Hence why I said "if you had one". I'm guessing the answer to my question is that you mind, that's cool - keep it mysterious I guess.

[Booostin]

you can search from now till the cows come home you wont' find my "show off thread" cuz it doesn't exist.

there are no pics of my car on TM3

What about the pic you posted when some a-hole hit your car?

[breakfasteatre]

I would search for your showoff thread if you had one but I'm too lazy so... do you mind posting a pic of your car on RS3's?

they are tires, i dont get this

[Elusivellama]

Speaking of driving like a bitch...

http://i853.photobucket.com/albums/ab96/Elusivellama/43mpg_WTF.jpg

99% highway, very few cars. Kind of skeptical of the number due to the way each station's pump clicks off, as well as 4 - 5 other variables I can think of.

[breakfasteatre]

The only way you.can really be sure is if you fill all the way up to the top of the filler neck ever y time

[Elusivellama]

Yeah, but I heard it causes damage to the thing which recaptures evaporated gas. Not worth it over something like this.

[loki]

who the fack cares

[Fack_Dude]

who the fack cares

Hahaha.

[SomeGuy]

who the fack cares


Hahaha.

I think you two have been hanging out too much...lol the grumpyness has rubbed off on loki.

[loki]

I think you two have been hanging out too much...lol the grumpyness has rubbed off on loki.

I'm not grumpy

I just don't give a fack about your fuel consumption\


SomeGuy yours should be pretty good since you don't seem to leave the tri-city area

;)

[Fack_Dude]

[QUOTE=SomeGuy;941325]I think you two have been hanging out too much...lol the grumpyness has rubbed off on loki.[/

Hahah.

[Elusivellama]

You should see my Fuelly chart then, loki. Up and down like that 80 degree drop roller coaster at Wonderland

[loki]

You should see my Fuelly chart then, loki. Up and down like that 80 degree drop roller coaster at Wonderland

yeh of course.

these cars fluctuate like crazy. I got 620km to a tank once, and was hitting mid 500's consistently, then you go down to 375km on a tank....I always keep track in my head everytime I fill up. But that's just the way it goes...

[Elusivellama]

yeh of course.

these cars fluctuate like crazy. I got 620km to a tank once, and was hitting mid 500's consistently, then you go down to 375km on a tank....I always keep track in my head everytime I fill up. But that's just the way it goes...

Yeah, I'm neither stressing out over it nor am I trying to one-up anybody by doing highway fuel economy runs. I like to do these little experiments from time to time just to see if I can do it. 43+mpg is hard to swallow, though...

[standsideways]

So. I HATE SWAS

Had 2 track days this weekend and used 1.5 tank of gas thanks to the beautifully engineered, awesome functioning SWAS crap.

SWAS was cutting boost like a mofo out of corners, not allowing me to use the whole track properly.

Time to get rid of it

[Fack_Dude]

So. I HATE SWAS

Had 2 track days this weekend and used 1.5 tank of gas thanks to the beautifully engineered, awesome functioning SWAS crap.

SWAS was cutting boost like a mofo out of corners, not allowing me to use the whole track properly.

Time to get rid of it


Be careful or the car will end up in a wall. I would think twice about not using swas on a track day.

[standsideways]

Lol I can drive the car properly, and know where my limits are. If my instructors thought i was going to end up in a wall i would not have been moved up into the "fast" group with the boss 302, new carerra, z06, etc.

They wouldent have let me drive it all out and have been telling me we can still go faster without the boost cut.

2 instructors noticed the SWAS was holding me back on exit, i had boost up on my AP and we were watching it cut boost when we needed it.

You cannot use all the track properly with swas on a gen2, it is garbage.

Myself and my instructors both FELT and SAW the car cutting boost when we needed it.

Cant deal with that for another 10+ track events this year.

[SomeGuy]

Wire it up on a switch so you can turn it on and off whenever you want...job done.

[Booostin]

Lol I can drive the car properly, and know where my limits are. If my instructors thought i was going to end up in a wall i would not have been moved up into the "fast" group with the boss 302, new carerra, z06, etc.

They wouldent have let me drive it all out and have been telling me we can still go faster without the boost cut.

2 instructors noticed the SWAS was holding me back on exit, i had boost up on my AP and we were watching it cut boost when we needed it.

You cannot use all the track properly with swas on a gen2, it is garbage.

Myself and my instructors both FELT and SAW the car cutting boost when we needed it.

Cant deal with that for another 10+ track events this year.


http://www.mazdaspeedforums.org/forum/f429/how-install-switch-swas-enable-disable-102406/

[loki]

Lol I can drive the car properly, and know where my limits are. If my instructors thought i was going to end up in a wall i would not have been moved up into the "fast" group with the boss 302, new carerra, z06, etc.

They wouldent have let me drive it all out and have been telling me we can still go faster without the boost cut.

2 instructors noticed the SWAS was holding me back on exit, i had boost up on my AP and we were watching it cut boost when we needed it.

You cannot use all the track properly with swas on a gen2, it is garbage.

Myself and my instructors both FELT and SAW the car cutting boost when we needed it.

Cant deal with that for another 10+ track events this year.

you done tooting your own horn yet?

good....

he was just saying to be careful. He disconnected his and it's a bit scary at times. But then again, he also has 430 whp...

[Fack_Dude]

you done tooting your own horn yet?

good....

he was just saying to be careful. He disconnected his and it's a bit scary at times. But then again, he also has 430 whp...

lol

[cSPEED]

they are tires, i dont get this

Ah, I totally mixed this up with R3 rims.

[standsideways]

you done tooting your own horn yet?

good....

he was just saying to be careful. He disconnected his and it's a bit scary at times. But then again, he also has 430 whp...

Dont hate loki, im far from a professional driver, but confidence is key, cockyness is bad.

I also NEED a small amount of rotation for corner entry and since the dsc would be completely off i could get that small rotation.

You can tell on track that the car is electronically held back at points, and when it is LITERALLY making you slower than you could be it needs to go.

Ide just like to drive the car at its potential, and with swas and dsc you are not able to reach its potential!

[standsideways]

http://www.mazdaspeedforums.org/forum/f429/how-install-switch-swas-enable-disable-102406/

This is what i planned to do.

[Fobio]

Lol I can drive the car properly, and know where my limits are. If my instructors thought i was going to end up in a wall i would not have been moved up into the "fast" group with the boss 302, new carerra, z06, etc.

They wouldent have let me drive it all out and have been telling me we can still go faster without the boost cut.

2 instructors noticed the SWAS was holding me back on exit, i had boost up on my AP and we were watching it cut boost when we needed it.

You cannot use all the track properly with swas on a gen2, it is garbage.

Myself and my instructors both FELT and SAW the car cutting boost when we needed it.

Cant deal with that for another 10+ track events this year.

This is at TMP? Why were you in 1st or 2nd where SWAS is fully active? Track recon? or just cruising around?

Otherwise, I've never been in 1st and 2nd at TMP...and SWAS was never issue....but being in 1st and 2nd @ TMP might be why...

[standsideways]

This is at TMP? Why were you in 1st or 2nd where SWAS is fully active? Track recon? or just cruising around?

Otherwise, I've never been in 1st and 2nd at TMP...and SWAS was never issue....but being in 1st and 2nd @ TMP might be why...

It was at ddt vince.

when we ran the first configuration (clockwise with 3 kinks) it was an issue, but that config was strictly for the school i think.


Then ccw 1 kink i was getting it at the bottom of the hill before the straight and again and the end of the straight, one is a 90* the other one is more than 90* and i was in second for both.

Maybe celest will chyme in, hes had his gen2 on ddt a few times ide imagine.

[Fobio]

I'm not sure Paul ever got to put the gen2 on a track yet but teaching and having learned at DDT id be hard pressed to hit boost cut in second gear. You're going too slow for boost.

CCW at DDT. With stock turbo I only need 3rd and 4th. Even CW with the extra kink before front start where you need second for a bit you should never hit boost cut.

Techniques play a huge part. I've never had issues with swas at track.

[breakfasteatre]

that switch seems like a very easy install regardless. Curious how things are going to pan out at sigma #1

**** yeah, its this weekend

[standsideways]

I'm not sure Paul ever got to put the gen2 on a track yet but teaching and having learned at DDT id be hard pressed to hit boost cut in second gear. You're going too slow for boost.

CCW at DDT. With stock turbo I only need 3rd and 4th. Even CW with the extra kink before front start where you need second for a bit you should never hit boost cut.

Techniques play a huge part. I've never had issues with swas at track.

Ill be back there in a few weeks, im going to install the switch and see what happens.

You running event 1&2 Vince?

[Fobio]

Ill be back there in a few weeks, im going to install the switch and see what happens.

You running event 1&2 Vince?

Likely not...you should grab a seat in MBNTO's car if you get a chance.

[CelestSpeed3]

Standsideways

No I haven't had my car at the track yet however I can assure you I drive the car pretty hard. I have yet to find the DSC in anyway interfere with my driving with my summer tires. The computer monitors wheel spin and then will issue a correction based on the swas. I rarely, rarely get wheelspin if the tires are warm so maybe that's why it doesn't bother me.

I however will be making more than a few track appearances this year so I will have more experience to gauge the situation you are having.


Just to curb my curiousity are you running an accessport?

[standsideways]

Just to curb my curiousity are you running an accessport?

Yes i am :)

[Turok]

Hey would you guys be interested in setting up an official NatorTO website or do we have one already?

Also if anyone else ever needs any cheap domains, feel free to PM me.

[MajesticBlueNTO]

Just to curb my curiousity are you running an accessport?


Yes i am :)

more than likely it is certain factors in your tune and not SWAS

[S.F.W.]

Hey would you guys be interested in setting up an official NatorTO website or do we have one already?

Also if anyone else ever needs any cheap domains, feel free to PM me.

I may be biased, but I don't think a separate site is needed. Between the discussion here, and on FB, a third site would just be too much.

[SomeGuy]

Yea, no need...whenever people try to split things off it just kills everything. At best I'd say we could use a NATOR subcategory in the mazdaspeed section but even then, the topics aren't usually NATOR as much as they are mazdaspeed related.

[loki]

no need to further separate. Not even a need for a separate section in the speed section.

last thing I need is another forum/website to troll....

Nator isn't something physical, it's a state of mind!

[Turok]

Cool, I thought of that after I posted that it's better to just keep everything within this MS3 section.

[standsideways]

more than likely it is certain factors in your tune and not SWAS

*sigh* time for a tune huh

[loki]

*sigh* time for a tune huh

yup

[Fobio]

*sigh* time for a tune huh

I agree with what MBNTO said and was going to bring it up the first time...but I'm not about to go tell everyone they need a tune, so as to avoid perceived conflict of interest by indirectly advertising.

[standsideways]

I agree with what MBNTO said and was going to bring it up the first time...but I'm not about to go tell everyone they need a tune, so as to avoid perceived conflict of interest by indirectly advertising.

Lol i wouldent have taken it that way, but i understand u dont wanna be the salesman type!

Not really a fan of the msf style "send a random guy your logs/map and let him tune it" but thats my only option at this time.

broke as all hell with the racing LOL

[SomeGuy]

Yeah, I would rather learn how to tune myself too (and am doing as much). It's lousy how these days the people with the know how are in it for making money rather than sharing their knowledge :( I don't really want to pay for a tune, trust that they do everything right and not understand what they changed and why and how it affects my car.

[cSPEED]

Yeah, I would rather learn how to tune myself too (and am doing as much). It's lousy how these days the people with the know how are in it for making money rather than sharing their knowledge :( I don't really want to pay for a tune, trust that they do everything right and not understand what they changed and why and how it affects my car.

There is endless knowledge shared on MSF and here. The reason there are people out there doing it for money is because they did their research, took the time to learn it, and will do it for a fee for those who can't be bothered. It's not a case of people withholding knowledge from the general public and charging them for it. It's more like everything else on this planet - if you can't be bothered to learn it yourself you pay those who have. If it takes a while to learn then it will cost more to do it from those who have. Prices are based on learning curves.

[BlueStreak]

Yeah, I would rather learn how to tune myself too (and am doing as much). It's lousy how these days the people with the know how are in it for making money rather than sharing their knowledge :( I don't really want to pay for a tune, trust that they do everything right and not understand what they changed and why and how it affects my car.

People who got the "know" spent hours/days wrenching/tuning their cars, getting frustrated, making mistakes and breaking their own crap. I've made setup changes to the car where it ran so lean, there was a howl sound from the engine bay. Another time, I had a smoke screen come out the back of the car while doing a pull on the 404. This was all for the sake of advancement on the platform and honing my knowledge.

For the record. CelestSpeed3 (Paul), who is part of MSpeed, changes my oil and I pay him the same rate he charges anybody else. I can't stand doing it myself which is why I have him do it. He does it, does it well and without a hitch. Why shouldn't he be paid for it while I sip my coffee and he crawls under the car? Best money I've spent on an oil change and I'm going for another round this week.

Ryan, I offered you some great tuning information over PM. Seeing posts like these really irks me.

As stated by Fobio. If you want to learn yourself, do what we did. Grab your computer, your AccessPORT and get in the car. Start making changes as you see fit and deal with the consequences (good or bad). Its the way we learned but we didn't complain. We won't spoon feed you. Nobody will for anything and they shouldn't.

[fywdyl]

Seriously, just the tuning section on TM3 alone has tons of info. If you read anybody's log thread, you are bound to find some info. Usually someone has an issue and then a couple posts later, there will be a solution.

A lot of it is just trial and error, and if you're cautious and you tune up instead of tune down, you will MOST LIKELY be safe from zoom zoom boom.

[S.F.W.]

ok folks, I have re-opened this thread. A few things to note
1)Please play nice.
2)Please have patience with the n00bs, and don't flame them/troll them right away
3)The purpose of this thread was to have discussion with regards to the MS3, that may not warrant their own threads. This is not another post whoring thread.

Thank you and welcome back.

[Turok]

Thanks SFW

[rzapata]

Awesome stuff! Thanks Ami! :thumbsup

[SomeGuy]

Oh looky it's back :) sorry to everyone for stirring up so much shit in here...was not my intent to piss anyone off with my posts or get this thread locked up but I obviously struck a nerve with someone and for that I'm sorry!

Anyway :) back to our regularily scheduled boost!

[Booostin]

Oh looky it's back :) sorry to everyone for stirring up so much shit in here...was not my intent to piss anyone off with my posts or get this thread locked up but I obviously struck a nerve with someone and for that I'm sorry!

Anyway :) back to our regularily scheduled boost!

http://nanciemwai.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/GroupHug.jpg



/ cheese lol

[Addison]

http://www.jeremyriad.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/pooh-corner-RX-dan-meth.png

We all got our problems...

[Fobio]

There is no water under the bridge...

...only burned bridges.

That is all.

http://alliedow.files.wordpress.com/2011/06/burning-bridges.jpg

[fywdyl]

We all got our problems...

Your post reminds me of this...

http://d24w6bsrhbeh9d.cloudfront.net/photo/37019_700b.jpg

[joedemarco]

funny cartoons lol!!

[-cj-]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?&v=9UwTTyVXHts

Meth testing. 100% meth vs 80/20 vs 50/50.

The video shows how likely a meth fire is with each mixture. Thanks to Neil for bringing it to my attention!

[BlueStreak]

^^^ Oh snap. I can just picture my engine bay going up in smoke.

I'm going back to 80/20.

[-cj-]

Yeah, Neil linked me to a 335i engine fire thread, and meth is the suspected cause.

Watching that video gave me flash backs of me blindly mixing meth at the track, using my WWF tank.... Definitely not the smartest idea to pour pure meth near a hot engine! hah.

[Fobio]

great posts about meth guys!

[S.F.W.]

agreed great posts, very interesting. Bookmarking for future reference.

[boyracer]

^^^ Oh Damn! Good to know.

[Thrizzl3]

wow!

[Turok]

That's good to know.. seems like 80/20 is safe :chuckle

[loki]

BOV threads now get deleted before I even get a chance to click on them....

*sigh*

[S.F.W.]

BOV threads now get deleted before I even get a chance to click on them....

*sigh*

it was a WTB add..random newbie, needs to start with sponsors, or looking through the classifieds..

[Mr Wilson]

Was going to respond, but decided not too.

Maybe like the OCC thread, a BPV/BOV one is needed.

Speaking of that, what's the plug that everyone is inadvertently undoing during the OCC install?

[CelestSpeed3]

They are not undoing anything. Its just a bad connection on the starter. There is a tsb for this.

[MajesticBlueNTO]

Meth testing. 100% meth vs 80/20 vs 50/50.

The video shows how likely a meth fire is with each mixture. Thanks to Neil for bringing it to my attention!

I have to thank Dennis for sending me the link to that thread... i don't peruse the BMW N54 forums........................................... yet :D

80/20 or 50/50 is a good bet if you're using your WWF tank.... looks like there's a reason why they recommend putting the meth tank in the trunk with proper venting if running 100% meth.

also, if running 100% meth, a fire suppression system like the one i saw at CA today is a schmexy idea! :drool