Door won't open wtf!

[sol_searchin]

:bang:bang:bang Everything worked yesterday and i go out to my car today and the driver's door won't unlock from the inside or out! Is this common in these car's?! Anyone got any idea's for me before I tear into this beautiful car lol

[ovie8]

:bang:bang:bang Everything worked yesterday and i go out to my car today and the driver's door won't unlock from the inside or out! Is this common in these car's?! Anyone got any idea's for me before I tear into this beautiful car lol

probably a broken latch or motor...happened on by dad's MPV...$350 for new motor and latch!

[stevenma188]

Water/ice in the locking mechanism? You can try that lock de-icer stuff

[sol_searchin]

I think the ****er is seized! has anyone removed a door panel with the door closed on the 3?

[stevenma188]

I don't think you can IIRC. I think the inner panel overhangs into the opening.

[sol_searchin]

There's alway's a way :) I know how it come's off but i'm hoping im not the only one here that it's happened to so I can get advice on the issue.

[Jackal]

Once the driver's door seized on me. It was just how I closed the door. But it was OK after I opened it from the inside. It hasn't happened again.
Has it fixed itself?

[sol_searchin]

No haha, I'm a big guy 6'2 - 230lbs so crawling through the passenger is TOUGH! I'll be pulling apart the door panel tomorrow (hoping it fixes itself over night!)

[Manpreet]

:flamingthis happend to me right now, dont know what it is have to find a way to open the door panel of

[bluemazda3]

what the hecks going on... this better not happen to my car... :flaming

[Noisy Crow]

Did you wash your car lately? Might be just full of ice. So warmer weather lube might be all that is needed (plus a shot of lube to prevent recurrence).

[MPS]

what year is the car ?
and BTW there is no opening the door panel from inside with out braking it
i did this just a litl while ago and its not fun


No haha, I'm a big guy 6'2 - 230lbs so crawling through the passenger is TOUGH! I'll be pulling apart the door panel tomorrow (hoping it fixes itself over night!)

[sol_searchin]

04', No I haven't washed the car for the last week, it did rain and then got cold real quick so who know's?

[sas]

The lock is mounted deep inside of the door, it will be problematic to do something with it. I can suggest to use a hair dryer from inside of the car to warm this gap between door and central pillar. All lock parts made in metal it shouldn’t take to long.

[sol_searchin]

Hair drier is a no go, it can actually bubble the paint.

[sas]

There no more then 45-60 degC from hair drier , it never can hurt to the paint.
I used the heat gun to apply the sound deadening it was a way higher temperature.

[sol_searchin]

The heat won't penetrate through the door/seal, I've put the car in a heated shop and ran it with the heat on inside and still a no-go. Latch is seized or actuator failed in the lock position (Almost guarantee it's the latter).

[sas]

Driver’s door has a separate fuse and relay in Passenger Junction Box.
Maybe problem is there. You should hear a clicking relay in PJB area.

[sol_searchin]

the manual lock inside the car is jammed as is the outer lock mechanism, I doubt it but were exactly is the passenger junction box?

[sas]

Can’t find a decent manual.
http://www.mazda3forums.com/index.php?topic=104874.0

It’s in passenger legs. You need in a flash light there. There are two holes in plastic cover.
Unlock clips and pull this cover down. Now, there are two locks , turn them to unlock the pjb. Fuse names are written on cover,interesting to you is " D2/Lock" 15A.

[sol_searchin]

Ok, thank's ill go take a look now.

[sas]

I think you can forget about PJB. If button is jammed then most like it’s a frozen cable.

[sol_searchin]

http://www.mazda3forums.com/index.php?topic=145196.0


which one

[sol_searchin]

I'll check it anyway i doubt it but it's easy to check so why not, my original guess with the actuator failing in the lock position or the latch mechanism is seized.

Manpreet did your's resolve?

[sas]

F37

[MajesticBlueNTO]

3rd item down in the pics (http://www.torontomazda3.ca/forum/showthread.php?47306-FS-racing-beat-springs-and-door-latch-mechanism)

brand new OEM door mechanisms for sale...comes with latch and cable

[Manpreet]

I'll check it anyway i doubt it but it's easy to check so why not, my original guess with the actuator failing in the lock position or the latch mechanism is seized.

Manpreet did your's resolve?

yea i fixed it with my buddy, he took out the door handle inside panel, pushed the wire connected to the lock switch while unlocked the door. that worked for a while then happened again. after that, he did the same thing to unlock the door and then pushed the latch mechanism to see if that was the issue. once that was done, i haven't had an issue with it getting stuck.

[Noisy Crow]

If you do end up having to wreck the door panel to get at the lock mechanism, a guy on M3F has door panels up for sale:
http://www.mazda3forums.com/index.php?topic=184703.0;topicseen

[sol_searchin]

nice! willing to part with the drivers side?



3rd item down in the pics (http://www.torontomazda3.ca/forum/showthread.php?47306-FS-racing-beat-springs-and-door-latch-mechanism)

brand new OEM door mechanisms for sale...comes with latch and cable

[sol_searchin]

PM'd you


yea i fixed it with my buddy, he took out the door handle inside panel, pushed the wire connected to the lock switch while unlocked the door. that worked for a while then happened again. after that, he did the same thing to unlock the door and then pushed the latch mechanism to see if that was the issue. once that was done, i haven't had an issue with it getting stuck.

[sol_searchin]

Still having this issue lol, manpreet get back to me !

[sas]

I must ask you for forgiveness. It was midnight and I was dumb to think about something else.
I mislead you, the electric part has nothing to do here when you open the door by key or from inside. It’s a pure mechanical problem. I think you have tried everything, if not, try to play by key and handle simultaneously, push the door (maybe latch is stuck somewhere on half way ).
You can remove this plastic trim under the handle as Manpreet did. Not much you can see there but who knows.

[sol_searchin]

^ Exactly what I was thinking, I'm open to try anything easy lol. Manpreet said he fixed it with just the handle peice off so I pm'd him hoping for a response back sooner than later! At least i'll have an idea instead of going in blind.

[sas]

You can look on the passenger side how it works. There is a turning fork being blocked by dog from downside, by pulling the handle you just release the dog and fork turning free again. This dog becoming inaccessible if was enabled the double lock. I think Manpreet played by double lock cable.

The handle cap you can remove easily. There is hidden screw under plug.

[sol_searchin]

Ok so when I pull the door handle cap off there is a line that goes behind it, but not much space to work, i'm going to try screwing around with it now.

[sas]

It’s for better understanding.
http://i709.photobucket.com/albums/ww96/sas2000_album/doorhandleMZ3.jpg
Upper cable is double lock. You even can unlock the cable shield from its place.But better to not do it.

[MajesticBlueNTO]

nice! willing to part with the drivers side?

PM silvermist99 as he has the parts still.

the gear teeth in the lock mechanism are supposedly plastic and are known to wear over time (apparently a common issue with older proteges).

the cables in the pic shown by sas run down to where the latch is (where the lock mechanism sits). see if you can pull on the lock cable (the top one) with some needle nose pliers to try and unlock the door. if jiggling the cable doesn't work, your latch may be hosed.

[sol_searchin]

SAS : wow man thank's a lot that picture saved me some time pulling the passenger panel. It got cold quick here so I didn't get to far tonight lol.

So what exactly is the "double cable"

[sol_searchin]

Majestic: Will do thank's!

[sas]

I’m speaking about latch, I thought this term will be better to not confuse with main lock or mechanical part.

[sol_searchin]

I'm going to check it out this afternoon

[sas]

I hope you will have it opened, because I don’t see a way how you could access to the power lock without breaking up the trim. Then, there are harness and cables which have to be disconnected. To do it yourself in so small space, I afraid that this task will be complex even for experienced person. I have read about couple of cases when dealer was able to open the door even without trim damages.

[sol_searchin]

I hope not to take it to the dealer to get bent over but I will if I have to!

[sas]

I’d had tried this way.
Put your car into shop and warm the door by halogen lamp. Now, open the window and unroll part of door trim from window. There will be one centimeter gap between window and metal. You can insert a hose here to spray the actuator by wd40. For comfort you can tap a wire to this hose. Maybe it will work.

[Noisy Crow]

Maybe you could try CAA or a similar service that deals with people locking their keys in their car.... depending on how they open the door they might be able to bypass whatever is stuck........

[sol_searchin]

I tried CAA they won't touch it because I'm not actually "locked out" lol, I'll post my result's when I try out all these ideas

[sol_searchin]

Ok had a look today, Latch line won't budge! Going to double check the PJB tomorrow

[Jackal]

Ok had a look today, Latch line won't budge! Going to double check the PJB tomorrow

This is taking a while. Good luck. I hope you won't have to get 'bent over' as you so eloquently put it.

[sas]

I have read a few non English Mazda forums.This illness is well known in Mazda6 world, they say that there is a small, falling off, spring inside of the actuator. I have another exotic idea, Vibrational machines can make parts to move.The palm sander is first what coming into mind. I don’t know how it is acceptable for you and what you have in your arsenal, just idea. I'm unsured it will work with mazda3, possible it will be interesting for you http://forum.mazda6club.com/models-trim/233456-driver-door-locked-won-t-unlock.html

[sol_searchin]

I'm going to call the dealer right now see what they can do, I get part's for cost so hoping labour won't be to much I haven't had a dealer repair anything for me in years lol

[sol_searchin]

So i brought the sucker into Mazda, Actuator was shot! and now it's fixed no more crawling through the passenger side haha, BUT i have an issue now, my outer door handle is loose! almost like there is no tension at all (it does still work) My guess is the tech yanked on it to hard and broke it or it's not fully tightened.

[sas]

Congrats with the end of the epic.
I can’t say what is wrong there. The whole assembly is fastened by the bolt inside of the door.
The handle itself is being returned by the torsion spring. Possible this spring wasn’t armed.

[sol_searchin]

I hope they didn't break my door handle, I called this morning and they told me " The technician was in a rush last night while working on your car" I was shocked that a service advisor would make that out to be a reason why my car wasn't repaired properly!

[bluemazda3]

take that back and get them to fix it properly.... damn no excuse.. im a rush...

[sas]

lol . Dealers are like doctors, it newer will stop if you start visiting them.
Let to the dialer to finish his work.

[McGuyver_3]

thats super shallow of a dealer even to admit that. They could have made up a better story then that

[sol_searchin]

I was in some serious shock when they told me that lol, They did repair the handle - tech forgot to tighten the handle and he didn't align the door lock assembly so it was grinding against the striker.

Review coming on Forbes Mazda shortly.

[McGuyver_3]

I was in some serious shock when they told me that lol, They did repair the handle - tech forgot to tighten the handle and he didn't align the door lock assembly so it was grinding against the striker.

Review coming on Forbes Mazda shortly.

main thing they fixed it

[Jackal]

I was in some serious shock when they told me that lol, They did repair the handle - tech forgot to tighten the handle and he didn't align the door lock assembly so it was grinding against the striker.

Review coming on Forbes Mazda shortly.

Did they charge you again?

[sol_searchin]

No, I wouldn't pay the bill if they had charged me lol.

[McGuyver_3]

Did they charge you again?


generally they are not allowed to recharge you because in this case the car would be classified a "comeback". Since the complaint is of the exact place were the previous repair was done their cannot be a charge for it

[sol_searchin]

I am happy that the job was finally done no doubt! Hated the crawling through the passenger side hahah I was going to do it myself but to much of a hassle. I paid 100 latch assembly and a bunch of clip's (cost on all part's) and roughly 100 labour, taxes and all I paid 240 - that is a big + I have for forbes the price1



main thing they fixed it