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carbon3
02-14-2011, 08:24 PM
Im looking for h&r coilovers, I had the pro-kit installed for a month and they were horrible.
Where is the best place to order? Im really trying to avoid ordering from the states because of customs duties, anybody have some good resources?

S.F.W.
02-14-2011, 08:25 PM
Both Nextmod and Garage16 can source H&R coils for you. Very curious how they perform on the Speed, as they are on the suspension options I am considering.

carbon3
02-14-2011, 09:21 PM
Thanks, just sent nextmod a e-mail, never heard of garage16 thou?
I borrowed my buddys 2010 sti for a week, he has h&r coilovers, the ride is perfect, not overkill in harshness at all. I'll post a review once i find some for a good price!

S.F.W.
02-14-2011, 09:22 PM
Thanks, just sent nextmod a e-mail, never heard of garage16 thou?
I borrowed my buddys 2010 sti for a week, he has h&r coilovers, the ride is perfect, not overkill in harshness at all. I'll post a review once i find some for a good price!

Have you browsed our sponsor listings at all?

carbon3
02-14-2011, 09:26 PM
Have you browsed our sponsor listings at all?

Umm, now I have...lol
Kinda a newbie on this forum.

Default User
02-14-2011, 10:16 PM
oooorrrrrr....you can just buy some Koni or Bilstein dampers.


Besides, you can't really compare an STI on coilovers to a 3 on just lowering Springs

Tokay444
02-14-2011, 10:32 PM
Just spring on an ms3 is gonna blow your struts faster than they blow at the proper ride height if not already blown already.

McGuyver_3
02-14-2011, 10:38 PM
Just spring on an ms3 is gonna blow your struts faster than they blow at the proper ride height if not already blown already.

I was on progress springs(comparable to prokits) for about 60k km and my stock shocks were still holding up well

carbon3
02-14-2011, 10:48 PM
oooorrrrrr....you can just buy some Koni or Bilstein dampers.
Besides, you can't really compare an STI on coilovers to a 3 on just lowering Springs

I thought about just dampers, but i would like to lower the height as well, springs+dampers almost comes out to the same price as coilovers. I've read positive things about H&R, quality products. I'm assuming they will ride just as well on the 3 as they did on the Subaru..........atleast I hope

BlK98Cx
02-14-2011, 10:56 PM
I was on progress springs(comparable to prokits) for about 60k km and my stock shocks were still holding up well

on H&R springs with stock shocks also....40k km on it still holding up....but it sucks during winter time!!!!!

You should check the review on H&R coils during winter time....not unless you garage your speed 3....B.C. coils sucks during winter!!!!!

Cust0m
02-14-2011, 11:00 PM
on H&R springs with stock shocks also....40k km on it still holding up....but it sucks during winter time!!!!!

You should check the review on H&R coils during winter time....not unless you garage your speed 3....B.C. coils sucks during winter!!!!!

shocks seize up?

S.F.W.
02-14-2011, 11:01 PM
...B.C. coils sucks during winter!!!!!
Are you relying strictly on RJ3's issues? Because other members, such as Dave_The_BMXER have run BC coils through the winter. I recall McGuyver is as well. For any coil over setup, you need to ensure it is greased before winter, and if possible once during. Maintenance is key.

carbon3
02-14-2011, 11:23 PM
I had my tein basics on my last mazda3 for three winters, they were fine, but i keep them covered in grease.

McGuyver_3
02-14-2011, 11:29 PM
Yes i am on BC coils and when first starting to drive in SUPER cold conditions, they are very rough. about 1km of driving softens them up though

McGuyver_3
02-14-2011, 11:31 PM
Are you relying strictly on RJ3's issues? Because other members, such as Dave_The_BMXER have run BC coils through the winter. I recall McGuyver is as well. For any coil over setup, you need to ensure it is greased before winter, and if possible once during. Maintenance is key.

I know what RJ3 is experiencing as I am watching mine very closely. the locking sleeve at the bottom of the shock likes to come loose every now and then. When weather gets a little better I am going to investigate in to it

Tokay444
02-15-2011, 06:32 AM
75000kms stock springs stock dampers. Blown rear strut. No warranty. Have fun on your lowering springs boys. My wife's civic has 240000kms. Stock springs and dampers. No issues. Handles like a dream. If you have a bad rear damper you most likely wouldn't even know it until you're spinning into a guard rail on an off ramp. The stock struts aren't even good enough for the stock springs, let alone shorter higher rate ones. The car is already lower than the standard 3. Koni yellows are going on mine asap. Stock springs.

Zoom Zoom Boy
02-15-2011, 01:46 PM
75000kms stock springs stock dampers. Blown rear strut. No warranty. Have fun on your lowering springs boys. My wife's civic has 240000kms. Stock springs and dampers. No issues. Handles like a dream. If you have a bad rear damper you most likely wouldn't even know it until you're spinning into a guard rail on an off ramp. The stock struts aren't even good enough for the stock springs, let alone shorter higher rate ones. The car is already lower than the standard 3. Koni yellows are going on mine asap. Stock springs.

If you are staying on stock springs, most of the consensus on MSF is that the Koni FSD is a better set-up on the MS3 than with the yellows. If you go with lowering springs, then the Koni Yellow's is a must.

Tokay444
02-15-2011, 05:09 PM
The fsd 4045 still isn't the perfect solution for sub par factory struts as there isn't a lot of suspension travel in the read, and the stock bump stops are too long. When the shock body hits this bump stop which is utilized by the factory shock in a progressive manner, it interprets the stop as a high frequency impact and opens is valve underdamping the situation even further.

Nextmod
02-16-2011, 05:51 AM
we have sold a couple of sets already, customer loves it on the MS3 =)

Tokay444
02-16-2011, 06:53 AM
People usually go bananas over their fresh purchases regardless. There isn't very often someone will fork over enough cash to buy everything in the range in order to do a proper full on comparo, and 9 times out of 10, no one is willing to admit that the decision they made wasn't the correct one, so they become biased towards the decision they did make, looking for all the pluses, and trying to ignore the short comings.

philipfreire
02-16-2011, 07:53 AM
People usually go bananas over their fresh purchases regardless. There isn't very often someone will fork over enough cash to buy everything in the range in order to do a proper full on comparo, and 9 times out of 10, no one is willing to admit that the decision they made wasn't the correct one, so they become biased towards the decision they did make, looking for all the pluses, and trying to ignore the short comings.
Very true. You see people who just installed new coils rave right away how amazing they are and they haven't even driven much on them.

But there are a few guys who would put their pride/ego aside to properly list the pros and cons of a product a few months in.

Tokay444
02-16-2011, 08:24 AM
Fff from msf, has tried: fsd 4040s and said they were way too under damped; fsd 4045 when koni said the Mazda 5 fsd was more suited for the speed3, and said that the bump stop was a huge issue; Mazdaspeed coilovers, and had a hard time dialing them in but eventually had a love/relationship with them, and after 4000 miles had broken in to be A LOT different than when installed and still thinks they've been the best option so far, and is now on bilsteins but will not write an unbiased review until he's put a full 4000miles on them... I personally don't care what anyone likes or doesn't like. I don't drive their car. I drive mine. But I do know the stock dampers are inferior at the best of times at the stock ride height let alone lowered.

Blkoutspd3
04-11-2011, 05:37 AM
Im still debating on BC coils, H&R coils or just go H&R springs and Koni struts. I know there the same price but....its all ride quality and all around quality. Such a hard decision and a expensive one.

Tokay444
04-11-2011, 06:55 AM
If you're worried in the slightest about quality anything, you should really scratch BC of your list, at least until they come out with something that isn't just rebranded Taiwanese crap for us, like they just did for the mazda6

laksman91
04-11-2011, 06:57 AM
You guys can get JIC-Magic coilovers, they make that for the 3 with "customizable" spring rate (before you order ofc) - like a 12k/10k setup

Sean80
04-11-2011, 08:35 AM
I'm thinking H&R springs on koni yellows.

http://www.esimaging.net/Cars/Lowered-Mazdaspeed-3/Mazdaspeed-3-Lowered-2011-014/1170409203_mEEQ3-L.jpg
http://www.esimaging.net/Cars/Lowered-Mazdaspeed-3/Mazdaspeed-3-Lowered-2011-035/1170409017_K2HRX-L.jpg

Tokay444
04-11-2011, 09:50 AM
Jic is a relative joke in the tuning world.

rmcat
04-11-2011, 10:16 AM
Im still debating on BC coils, H&R coils or just go H&R springs and Koni struts. I know there the same price but....its all ride quality and all around quality. Such a hard decision and a expensive one.

I'm on the same boat as you,and I spent a lot of time online reading reviews/comparisons/maintenances/installations.All the itches started from the time one of my rear shock blown and I replaced both by Bilstein sport.I was so closed on getting some H&R springs plus a pair of Bilstein struts if not were they out of stock everywhere without an ETA even. I also thought about going Koni yellow in the front but didn't really wanna do mixed brands shock/strut. Instead of going full Koni and selling the Bilstein shocks I started thinking about Coilovers because of adjustabilities(height/dampening)/installation easiness(front struts disassembly)/total cost(don't wanna dump $1500+ on suspension again after all those mods I've got).Getting H&R coilovers is kinda like getting Bilstein struts/shocks + H&R springs without height adjustability,still have no dampening adjustment,still need to do front struts disassembly and cost more than $1500. Out of all the "budget coilovers"(BC/Megan/D2/Ksport/yellowspeed/etc),BC seem to have the best reviews. I know people are saying never get cheap on coilovers,but IMO that's more when you go track your car a lot.Then people say why you even choose coilovers if you don't go to the track often at the first place?Again ajustabilities/installation/price...

I'm leaning much more toward coilovers and debating between BC and Selex,the latter look like better build quality with easier to get after-sell-service since they're made in Canada but more expensive and also less reviews.BC's seem to have good reviews especially in the EVO/STI world,some people run them on their car for over 40,000kms with occasional track time without problems.The $99 shock replacement after first year looks reasonable as well. I've also seen some "BC=fail" threads and more of them are due to inproper installation/lack of maintenance/riding track stiffness on street,and they are better comparing to the other budget coilovers without acceptable prices.

Tokay444
04-11-2011, 11:00 AM
I'd almost rather cheap out on a track car setup than a street car. You break on the track, you hit the tires. You break on the street(which is the only place I've seen BCs break) and you potentially hit a mother and her two kids at the bus stop and kill them. DON'T BUY SHIT PARTS WHEN SAFTEY IS A CONCERN. Catastrophic failure of a cheap set of fuel pump internals? Messed up motor and a couple grand in repairs. Catasrophic failure of your suspension(which has happened)? Lose control of your car. Petentially writethe thing off and possibly kill yourself and/or someone else.

aaron
08-01-2012, 09:04 PM
Im using stock shocks on Tein S-tech, the rear is already busted @ 60k KM, so regret did not chnage to koni yellow in the beginning

r4mi5awi
08-22-2013, 03:47 PM
Reviving this thread back from the ashes! I'm already planning ahead for the next mod season and I'm interested in the H&R coilovers, more so than the KW variant 1's. Aside from checking out sponsors, anybody ever order online from vividracing? Their prices seem to be the best on the market and they seem reputable.

http://www.vividracing.com/catalog/2011_Mazda_Mazda_3_hr-street-perf-coil-over-drop-1225f-1020r-mazda-mazda3-type-bl4door-5door-1011-p-150719864.html

+10% discount for Canadian customers.

Anybody with experience, let me know what you think :)

murdaspeed
08-23-2013, 12:01 AM
FYI. The link you posted are for the Mazda3 not the Mazdaspeed3. The part # for H&R coilovers is 52604 2010+ Mazdaspeed3's

r4mi5awi
08-23-2013, 12:23 AM
If only I had an MS3 :o

Thanks for the info anyways!

rick@garage16.ca
08-23-2013, 02:42 PM
We carry H&R