NEW Rear Engine Mounting ANY GOOD???

[King-k]

Hi Guys

I saw that SU released a new Rear Engine Mounting
http://www.streetunit.com/v/vspfiles/photos/SUM3AMM1PU-2.jpg

Has anyone purchased these mountings? Feedback will be appreciated, as I would really want to purchase a rear engine mounting now, but would like to purchase the right one the first time:thumbsup

Thanx!

[Tokay444]

I think I read that one as being refurbished. Wouldn't wast my time to save 30 bucks. Sure and CP-e seem to be dominating that market right now. Your choices are, hard or soft and rubber or urathane.

[loki]

no more feedback on this?

how hard is to get hold of a CP-e mount?

[Fobio]

if I was looking for a new RMM, I'd chk out JBR's 2 choices...JBarone Racing...

[Elusivellama]

Jamie also said he was coming out with side motor mounts pretty soon too. Might be a nice, less expensive alternative to the CPE wallet-raping ones.

[starscream]

I think any of the 1 piece mounts (CPe, the new SU, JBR, Sure) they are all going to be very compairable. All of them will help with wheel hop and the like, I think its going to come down to the duro amount on each mount to see how much vibration you get.

You'll be fine with which ever you get.

[Elusivellama]

btw I have a 75 duro CPE RMM, just installed last Sat. Minimal vibrations on startup, idle and driving. Lots of noticeable vibration when the A/C is on, but meh. I like the more raw and aggressive feeling anyway. Much less clunking now during shifts, and definitely one of the first things any MS3 owner should do.

To OP, have you seen the stock motor mount? It's a crappy flange of metal holding a soft rubber bushing with triangle-shaped cut-outs, it was designed for the least NVH - I get that - but damn is it a POS.

[Tokay444]

Are you counting the bushings as one piece or the frame. The way I see them they're all at the very least 3 pieces. 4 if you have a split/sandwich bushings. My sure rmm and ingalls torque damper have done nothing for wheel hop. I hear the trz tranny mount is the best at completely eliminating it though. That will be my next buy. Hear it's loud though...

[Fobio]

the CP-e style is considered a 1-piece...the TRZ is considered a dog-bone...the older SU one is definitely 2-piece.

with regards to vibes, I recommend raising idle to 900rpm with ATR/AP. there are many reasons for doing this, and the most noticeable is eliminating some harsh idle vibes...I think stock, the car idles 600 - 750 rpm...

[rick@garage16.ca]

Here is a new one as well

http://www.torquesolution.com/v/vspfiles/photos/TS-MS-002-2.jpg


Torque Solution mounts are made of high quality billet aluminum material machined to precise tolerances. The heart of the mounts are made of high grade polyurethane material. These combination's of materials and measurements allow for unmatched performance and reliability.For street and race applications. Some vibration noticeable..

•Eliminates wheel hop / traction loss
•Improved 60fts / e.t's
•Made out of lightweight 6061-T6 billet aluminum
•Street and track torture tested
•Black anodized / Torque Solution Laser engraved
•75A durometer bushings
•Life Time Warranty
•Made in USA

[Tokay444]

How can they consider something that is three pieces?

[Kwokalobster]

How much does the torque solution rear mount go for?

[Sean80]

I have the older SU 2-piece RMM and it works great. Any of the single pieces would be the best choice to go with now.

[rick@garage16.ca]

How much does the torque solution rear mount go for?

about 120 or so

[VertigoM]

btw I have a 75 duro CPE RMM, just installed last Sat. Minimal vibrations on startup, idle and driving. Lots of noticeable vibration when the A/C is on, but meh. I like the more raw and aggressive feeling anyway. Much less clunking now during shifts, and definitely one of the first things any MS3 owner should do.

To OP, have you seen the stock motor mount? It's a crappy flange of metal holding a soft rubber bushing with triangle-shaped cut-outs, it was designed for the least NVH - I get that - but damn is it a POS.

I'm thinking about getting the CPE 75 duro as well. Just how bad is the vibration when the AC is on? If it's really bad I don't think my wife will appreciate the 'upgrade' much.

Btw, did you purchase it off the CPE website? Where did you get it installed?

[Elusivellama]

Like I said, it's still breaking in and I expect the vibrations to decrease after a month or two. But right now, startup idle and driving are a bit rougher and fine, but turn the ac on and your steering wheel will actually shake. Not a lot, but it is noticeable. You could always assure her that the mount is just wearing in, but the initial reaction is most likely going to be of fear :D

Also I got it installed at Jimmy's, it's a very simple procedure actually, I just decided to get it done at the same time as other service. Bought direct of CPE site, the prices there are just to discourage people from buying direct, they want you to buy from one of their dealers. I bought mine before the artificial price hike.

[VertigoM]

Like I said, it's still breaking in and I expect the vibrations to decrease after a month or two. But right now, startup idle and driving are a bit rougher and fine, but turn the ac on and your steering wheel will actually shake. Not a lot, but it is noticeable. You could always assure her that the mount is just wearing in, but the initial reaction is most likely going to be of fear :D

Also I got it installed at Jimmy's, it's a very simple procedure actually, I just decided to get it done at the same time as other service. Bought direct of CPE site, the prices there are just to discourage people from buying direct, they want you to buy from one of their dealers. I bought mine before the artificial price hike.

Sounds like it's a reasonable trade-off to get smoother shifts. The clunky shifting is really starting to bug me (my Civic SiR shifts like a dream compared to the MS3).

How much did you pay for it including tax and shipping?

I was looking at the dealer list and it it seems that the only dealer in the area is JRP. I guess I'll give them a call for a quote. I hope it'll be cheaper than getting it direct from CPE's website...

[Fobio]

I work with MPS to get CP-e stuff out to ppl. If you guys are interested in doing a CP-e GB for mounts or anything else, you can PM me...we do monthly shipments.

[Elusivellama]

Now, don't get me wrong, the shifts are not absolutely smoothed out with a RMM, I think I would still need side mounts if I want it gone entirely, but like I said the clunking has been greatly reduced, I don't get that loud THUNK when I'm accelerating hard. A lot of it has to do with shift technique, and this car likes to be shifted up higher so that the revs dont drop too fast before you engage 2nd.

I don't remember the price anymore, it definitely isn't the price you see on CPE's website. They jacked it up a while ago because they want to discourage people from buying direct from them.

[Fobio]

I don't remember the price anymore, it definitely isn't the price you see on CPE's website. They jacked it up a while ago because they want to discourage people from buying direct from them.

We get dealer prices. =)

[stillmatic]

We get dealer prices. =)

I'm interested in a CP-e RMM 60 duro...can you guys ship to Edmonton?

Let me know.

[SomeGuy]

Yeah, PM me the price on the mounts...I'd be interested in a GB. Was going to order from the dealer I got my cp-e intake and inlet from in the states but he won't have any in for a while either...so if the price is right, I'd jump

[Fobio]

Let's set up a list, and we'll go from there. I don't have prices right now, but we can certainly quote something by the wknd.

1. stillmatic - 60 duro
2. SomeGuy - ?
3.
4.
5.

[VertigoM]

Now, don't get me wrong, the shifts are not absolutely smoothed out with a RMM, I think I would still need side mounts if I want it gone entirely, but like I said the clunking has been greatly reduced, I don't get that loud THUNK when I'm accelerating hard. A lot of it has to do with shift technique, and this car likes to be shifted up higher so that the revs dont drop too fast before you engage 2nd.

I don't remember the price anymore, it definitely isn't the price you see on CPE's website. They jacked it up a while ago because they want to discourage people from buying direct from them.

Does a RMM only help when shifting under hard acceleration? Does it do anything for shifts under normal everyday driving?

[SomeGuy]

I'm only in if the price is less than what it is from the dealer in the states (it's around $160ish shipped)

1. stillmatic - 60 duro
2. SomeGuy - 60 duro
3.
4.
5.

[VertigoM]

Count me in.

1. stillmatic - 60 duro
2. SomeGuy - 60 duro
3. VertigoM - 75 duro
4.
5.

[Elusivellama]

It helps for all shifts, I can definitely feel much less sloppiness whether shifting normally or when taking on-ramps at speed. The stock RMM is a joke, and its only reasons for being there on the MS3 are to cut down on noise/vibration/harshness and costs. Think about it this way ............ there are like 4 - 5 different RMMs on the market (CPE, JBR, SU, ???, ???), if it was an unessential upgrade you'd maybe see one manufacturer even bothering to make an aftermarket piece.

[stillmatic]

I'm only in if the price is less than what it is from the dealer in the states (it's around $160ish shipped)



same condition applies for me as well

[MPS]

CPe price on that mount is $190
RPM is $155
non of that includes shipping or customs
so its safe to say no chance of that $160ish price

[Fobio]

CPe price on that mount is $190
RPM is $155
non of that includes shipping or customs
so its safe to say no chance of that $160ish price

what if there are 10 guys? =)

[rick@garage16.ca]

Im gonna order a few Torque ones for stock and they are about 110-120

[TriniFyah7]

If I hadn't already ordered mine I would probably join the GB. However, I got a rather decent price at JRP for the CPE mount before the price went up

[Fobio]

Is anyone still interested in the CP-e mounts?

[SomeGuy]

I am, again if the price is right...

[stillmatic]

me too....price has to be right

[Kwokalobster]

I am, again if the price is right...

+1, ^agree

[breakfasteatre]

just installed the cp-e mount yesterday and what an improvement in shift smoothness!
the cpe mount is very high quality and is a ****ing monster!

[Fobio]

An order is going in tmr for CP-e stuff...for this order, we can do $160 cash pick-up in Toronto. Add $20 if you need it shipped elsewhere in Canada.

PM to confirm order!

[loki]

An order is going in tmr for CP-e stuff...for this order, we can do $160 cash pick-up in Toronto. Add $20 if you need it shipped elsewhere in Canada.

PM to confirm order!

Fobio. It says your PM limit has been reached!!

If it isn't too late, then I am interested in the 75 duro RMM, I assume this is what you're ordering.

Let me know. Thanks

[Fobio]

Fobio. It says your PM limit has been reached!!

If it isn't too late, then I am interested in the 75 duro RMM, I assume this is what you're ordering.

Let me know. Thanks

Thanks for head up...I've cleared some room.

[Fobio]

dude...PM...hahah...not visitors msg.

there are no details...you pm me what you need, in details, with your ph# and email.

thanks.

[Fobio]

1. lokiaparandi - 75 - CONFIRMED

anyone else?

[Iceman_F1]

1. lokiaparandi - 75 - CONFIRMED

anyone else?

I'll bite. I'll PM later today once I can do a bit of looking around. Anyone know how much this usually is for install?

[MPS]

SP charges about $20

[Iceman_F1]

SP charges about $20

Thanks. Didn't think it was too much.

[Fobio]

1. lokiaparandi - 75 - CONFIRMED
2. Iceman_F1 - 75 - CONFIRMED

[TriniFyah7]

hey Fobio, just outta curiosity.. when do you expect these mounts to be shipped in by?

[Fobio]

1 - 2 weeks. Order's going in today.

[Fobio]

Just want to throw it out there for ppl to consider...FYI: VIBES.

If you have a tuning device, running a slightly higher idle @ 900rpm will alleviate 90% of vibes at idle or with A/C on.

[Fobio]

Order for the first 2 are in but not shipping til end of week, so we can squeeze in more guys!

And yes, it's still $160 tax in!

1. lokiaparandi - 75 - CONFIRMED
2. Iceman_F1 - 75 - CONFIRMED
3. optiklenz - 75 - CONFIRMED

[squirrel]

I just installed a 70 durometer billet aluminum James Barone last week and I'm loving it so far.
http://jamesbaroneracing.com/Motor_Mounts/MS3/Billet/IMG_5879.jpg
They also have an 80 durometer in the billet and a chrome-molly (wishbone) as well. $120 Shipped in the States and $130 to Canada. I'm close to Edmonton and I didn't pay a cent extra for GST, Duty, handling fees, etc. and I ordered a bunch of other stuff. I couldn't be happier with the products and the customer service I received.

[loki]

spam?

[S.F.W.]

spam?

legit poster.

[Elusivellama]

Just want to throw it out there for ppl to consider...FYI: VIBES.

If you have a tuning device, running a slightly higher idle @ 900rpm will alleviate 90% of vibes at idle or with A/C on.

Or if you wait a month like I did, the vibes tone down enough to be quite tolerable even with A/C on.

The only thing I noticed is that I can hear more of my transmission than I used to be able to. Right after Jimmy swapped the CPE mount in, I noticed that I could hear my 5th gear whining around 2k - 2.5k from 70km/h ~ 80km/h, and prior to that I never noticed it as much. I can also kind of hear my 1st gear whine if I push it past 3k, but that's a non issue because I don't redline it. This makes sense to me because the CPE mount is far more substantial and much stiffer than the stock piece of shit, thus it transmits more NVH. The 5th gear does not whine when I shift it at highway speeds or during fast driving... so that's fine with me.

[Fobio]

1. lokiaparandi - 75 - CONFIRMED
2. Iceman_F1 - 75 - CONFIRMED
3. optiklenz - 75 - CONFIRMED
4. caquricon - 75 - CONFIRMED

[SomeGuy]

...not to screw you over fobio but Garage16 has the 60's on sale for $145 right now in the sponsers forum...just FYI.

[Fobio]

...not to screw you over fobio but Garage16 has the 60's on sale for $145 right now in the sponsers forum...just FYI.

145 plus tax bro...

who's screwing who?

besides, you're not screwing me over anything...I don't make any $ off this...just tired off ppl not getting their parts and having to settle for something lesser but available.

also I never slag on other ppl's stuff...I run JBarone's stuff too and it's quality. ppl have different preferences and they can vote with their dollar.

[SomeGuy]

Chill, was just pointing it out...Garage16 does $15 shipping so for those like me not in the GTA it works out about the same in the end. No biggy.

[MPS]

how is it same after you pay tax ?
its $163 plus shipping



Chill, was just pointing it out...Garage16 does $15 shipping so for those like me not in the GTA it works out about the same in the end. No biggy.

[SomeGuy]

how is it same after you pay tax ?
its $163 plus shipping

Fobio = $160 + $20 shipping = $180
Garage16 = $145 + $18.85 tax + $15 shipping + $1.95 tax on shipping = $180.80

So I suppose fobio is 80 cents cheaper...my bad? It's essentially the same and I'm supporting a forum sponser with a great reputation and helpful service. Besides I get 1% back on my credit card when I ordered lol so I'm actually only paying like $179 haha

[MPS]

Fobio is $160 flat out cash

[SomeGuy]

Fobio is $160 flat out cash

He's $20 to ship, and since I'm not in the GTA it would cost me at least that much in gas to go pick it up. So again, it works out for me. It doesn't matter, no discredit to fobio I was simply pointing out that Garage16 had a similar offer on the mounts.

[loki]

Fobio = $160 + $20 shipping = $180
Garage16 = $145 + $18.85 tax + $15 shipping + $1.95 tax on shipping = $180.80

So I suppose fobio is 80 cents cheaper...my bad? It's essentially the same and I'm supporting a forum sponser with a great reputation and helpful service. Besides I get 1% back on my credit card when I ordered lol so I'm actually only paying like $179 haha

My only comment is that posts like this aren't necessary. This applies especially to the classifieds section. If you find a better price somewhere else, it's not your job to broadcast to the entire forum, in someone else's thread, that there are better prices out there.

Most people on the forum generally research before buying something, so they know what's out there and don't usually just go making blind purchases. For the most part at least. It's just not called for to comment on it, even if you think it's an "oh by the way" type of comment.

If you absolutely feel the need to say something, make use of the PM function, and take your discussion behind closed doors in a more discreet manner.

I think $160 is a great price, and I appreciate that Fobio took the time to set this whole thing up and organize getting the part for me. He didn't have to do this, like he said what's the benefit to him except trying to help a couple people out by getting them a quality part for a reasonable price.

If you found a deal that works better for you, then go with it, but no need to make comments targeted at members on the public forum. Regardless of whether or not your intentions were bad, because I don't think you had bad intentions at all.

This is just my opinion. This goes for alot of people out there, so this comment is not targeted specifically at you.

[SomeGuy]

I think they ARE necessary, personally I'd rather know (regardless of where the information comes from) about other details so that I may better weigh my options. This is related subject matter. It's not like I posted in here saying go to SU and get whatever ol' mount from them at $110...I posted an alternative for the identical part as an FYI.

Why must everyone on this forum always have a stick up their ass no matter what anyone posts? Disclaimer: "This is just my opinion. This goes for alot of people out there, so this comment is not targeted specifically at you."

[Fobio]

Where's the beef? lol...

Comments from from both sides are welcomed. We in fact prefer to do local orders, and only offered the shipping option to help others out. I'm one of the biggest supporter of our sponsors, as can be seen by others.

Having said that, i wonder if you would have gotten your deal if not for our thread...I've been here long enough to wade through the BS...this kind of shit, doesn't even faze me...lol...

Glad to help all those that have benefitted from my chosen way to spend my extra time...

[Fobio]

1. lokiaparandi - 75 - CONFIRMED
2. Iceman_F1 - 75 - CONFIRMED
3. optiklenz - 75 - CONFIRMED
4. caquricon - 75 - CONFIRMED

Mounts will be here tomorrow. If I don't have your cell and email, pls email them to me or please make arrangements to pick-up in Thornhill/Markham/Richmond Hill area...or let me know if you prefer mid-town Toronto.

[loki]

Mounts will be here tomorrow. If I don't have your cell and email, pls email them to me or please make arrangements to pick-up in Thornhill/Markham/Richmond Hill area...or let me know if you prefer mid-town Toronto.

did they arrive?

[MPS]

yes they are sitting @ Street Performance

[loki]

yes they are sitting @ Street Performance

Great. I can swing by there on my way to Peterborough tomorrow to pick it up.

thanks guys.

[queens49]

Just want to throw it out there for ppl to consider...FYI: VIBES.

If you have a tuning device, running a slightly higher idle @ 900rpm will alleviate 90% of vibes at idle or with A/C on.

Is there a place that will do this? I have the CPe and would like to get rid of the vibrations at idle. It's not bad some days, other days it's annoying that I find myself pressing the accelerating to get the RPMs up to 900rpm

[Fobio]

Is there a place that will do this? I have the CPe and would like to get rid of the vibrations at idle. It's not bad some days, other days it's annoying that I find myself pressing the accelerating to get the RPMs up to 900rpm

I do it myself with the AP...on the Standback, you prolly need a ECU reflash.

[Fobio]

1. lokiaparandi - 75 - CONFIRMED - Picked-up
2. Iceman_F1 - 75 - CONFIRMED - Pending
3. optiklenz - 75 - CONFIRMED - Pending
4. caquricon - 75 - CONFIRMED - Pending

We have an extra one available RIGHT NOW...cash pick-up $160 in Thornhill/Markham area. PM me for details. otherwise, it'll go on the For Sale section.

[loki]

picked mine up and installed it the same day at Street Performance.

guys told me it would feel like my car was gonna blow up but to be honest the vibrations don't bother me at all. Haven't really launched the car yet but it definitely feels like the power is now getting to the wheels alot better now.

These guys ordered them on Friday they were in by Thursday the following week. very quick.

thanks Fobio! I'm very happy with the purchase.

[Gareth232]

Just installed my CPE ReaR MOUNT And in effin great!!! +++++1

[Airman Jack]

these are the same mount for the 2.3L MZ3's as well, right? If so, I'm in for a 60 duro rear.

[optiklenz13]

I got mine installed today and holy CRAP!!! It is AMAZING!! Best mod to date!

Thanks Fobio for hooking me up!

[Iceman_F1]

I got mine installed today and holy CRAP!!! It is AMAZING!! Best mod to date!

Thanks Fobio for hooking me up!

Got mine installed today as well. Pretty big difference. Looking forward to more driving to test it out.

[optiklenz13]

Hahaha. Funny how my wife noticed the vibration! LMAO!!!

[loki]

Hahaha. Funny how my wife noticed the vibration! LMAO!!!

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