View Full Version : Passenger Strut Leaking - Dealer Confirmed - Next steps?
Hello everyone,
I was in a Mazda Dealership today for an Oil Change and upon inspection, which they do regularly, they found my passenger side *front* strut to be leaking. They said I can hold off for maximum 2 service intervals, so I assume around 16km? based on oil change...
However, i'd definitely like to get it fixed before that mileage hits or time. Problem is, as most, the price of the entire thing is high. They recommend that the left strut also replaced along with the right one... Total for labour/parts with TM3 discount = $855 + tax...
I am not really too excited about this, as this was totally unexpected, and I do not have a budget for this yet, especially not north of 900.
I was wondering what recommendations, or next steps you guys would do if you were found in the same situation... Get Mazda parts from Dealership + jimmy install/labour?
I'm a full time student here, thus the more student friendly this is, the better for me...
Sorry for long rant, but this is not cool...
Thank you for your help in advance :)
PearlM3
03-01-2011, 07:37 PM
Haha, dealers are hilarious. Call nextmod, they can get you either a full set of Koni Yellows for like 750, or just the fronts for approx 350-400. Then call Jimmy at street performance and have them installed for approx..100-150.
Haha, dealers are hilarious. Call nextmod, they can get you either a full set of Koni Yellows for like 750, or just the fronts for approx 350-400. Then call Jimmy at street performance and have them installed for approx..100-150.
Interesting you mention that. My friend also suggested a similar thing, however, one thing I noted, the Mazda Dealership had a ton of other 'mini' parts that go along with the strut replacement, bushings and what not. They strongly recommended it... sigh.. lol
PearlM3
03-01-2011, 07:42 PM
Of course they strongly recommended it. THEY ARE A DEALERSHIP...that is how they make their money.
Of course they strongly recommended it. THEY ARE A DEALERSHIP...that is how they make their money.
I see, I know what you mean. But, besides that, shouldn't other parts be replaced? to prolong the life of the strut more?
Default User
03-01-2011, 07:59 PM
Haha, dealers are hilarious. Call nextmod, they can get you either a full set of Koni Yellows for like 750, or just the fronts for approx 350-400. Then call Jimmy at street performance and have them installed for approx..100-150.
or he can just get some less-expensive KYB's for the fronts for less than $200 + install
(probably easier since hes on a student budget)
Booter22
03-01-2011, 08:16 PM
In all honesty, you are our customer and we of course would love to service your vehicle and continue on as your facility of choice.
...Omar... Get me a written quote. Parts / Labour the whole 9 (OEM, after market shocks) which ever you choose.
I will see what I can do with our numbers if you choose to go OEM route or the Aftermarket route , if you are looking aftermarket let me know and I can have Andrew get me some prices tomorrow. As Tiffany said you do have some time, if you are at all interested to ever lower the vehicle now may be the time to take that direction. Always an idea..
But keep me posted and email me once you get some numbers together. For down the road I can also note the costing and pricing on your customer file to complete at a later date. If you have any questions regarding the parts quoted I would be happy to personally go through the list with you.
poke65
03-01-2011, 08:35 PM
I bought 2 front struts (MOT TM3 discount) and had them installed at Street Performance for just under $300 total. This was for an 04 mazda sedan.
cwp_sedan
03-01-2011, 08:38 PM
You will also need an alignment so that is something else to consider in the cost. The dealership price is easily at least double what you should be paying. Go to Street Performance for the install and somewhere else for the alignment.
FLIPDADY
03-01-2011, 08:39 PM
You sure it's the strut leaking? I thought my struts were leaking on my previous 3. Turns out it was the passenger side engine mount leaking on my strut.
or he can just get some less-expensive KYB's for the fronts for less than $200 + install
(probably easier since hes on a student budget)
That does sound pretty good pricing wise. Has anyone tried these actually? I just don't want to have to replace them again in 2 years, if I can pay a bti more. KYB's don't seem to have good reputation among the forum?
In all honesty, you are our customer and we of course would love to service your vehicle and continue on as your facility of choice.
...Omar... Get me a written quote. Parts / Labour the whole 9 (OEM, after market shocks) which ever you choose.
I will see what I can do with our numbers if you choose to go OEM route or the Aftermarket route , if you are looking aftermarket let me know and I can have Andrew get me some prices tomorrow. As Tiffany said you do have some time, if you are at all interested to ever lower the vehicle now may be the time to take that direction. Always an idea..
But keep me posted and email me once you get some numbers together. For down the road I can also note the costing and pricing on your customer file to complete at a later date. If you have any questions regarding the parts quoted I would be happy to personally go through the list with you.
John, you're always top notch customer service. I know you'll work your best to make sure I am happy and my car is done properly. I will definitely look into both OEM and aftermarket, and from the looks of it, it seems that Koni Yellows are good aftermarket. I think that will be my main thing, either Koni Yellows, plus a lowered car (not sure by how much -- no idea on what's a good range), or OEM struts... labour isnt yet decided
Cost wise, the lower the better of course, but I also don't want to go too low where quality might hinder. A balance is nice, but often hard to find.
I think somewhere around $450-550 is perfect. At least for a start.
I bought 2 front struts (MOT TM3 discount) and had them installed at Street Performance for just under $300 total. This was for an 04 mazda sedan.
Pretty decent deal as well. I assume OEM struts... my only issue here, is that the dealership quotes many other parts along with struts, so I'm not sure why no one has yet mentioned those, such as bushings? etc
You will also need an alignment so that is something else to consider in the cost. The dealership price is easily at least double what you should be paying. Go to Street Performance for the install and somewhere else for the alignment.
aghh.. Alignment... add another $125 -___-
You sure it's the strut leaking? I thought my struts were leaking on my previous 3. Turns out it was the passenger side engine mount leaking on my strut.
To be honest, I looked at it, and inside the rubber protective piece, it looked like there was some black hydraulic liquid on the inside of that black plastic piece around the shocks.. There were like 3 mechanics that were looking at my car, so I assume they all agree its the strut. I am not 100% sure, but if it is the mount, thats much better. at least its cheaper.
Thank you everyone for your quick replies. For now, ill call up nextmod for Koni Yellows front struts, and see if I can have a decent price on those... For labour, I am not sure yet... of course, it's nice to have the dealership take care of everything, but I will see how price works out in the end. John you always know best
cwp_sedan
03-02-2011, 12:41 AM
An alignment will not cost you $125. Go to K.S.L. $60-80 cash.
http://www.torontomazda3.ca/forum/showthread.php?33262-K.S.L.-Automotive-(Alignment-in-Markham)
MajesticBlueNTO
03-02-2011, 09:17 AM
Thank you everyone for your quick replies. For now, ill call up nextmod for Koni Yellows front struts, and see if I can have a decent price on those... For labour, I am not sure yet... of course, it's nice to have the dealership take care of everything, but I will see how price works out in the end. John you always know best
why would you not get Koni Yellows for all 4 corners? Having Yellows in the front and stock in the rear could upset the balance of the car as the Yellows are stiffer than stock even at the lowest setting.
as for the strut bearings and what not, check out taz's part out thread, he has a set of front strut bearings FS. depending on the KMs on your car, they may need to be changed as the housing is plastic and has been known to break over time.
$900 is a bit ridiculous for just 2 front struts, strut bearings, labour and whatever else. i'm guessing that's 1.5 hours of labour per side X $100/hour?!
CTA has 1 set of Yellows (http://www.torontomazda3.ca/forum/showthread.php?51079-Inventory-Clearout) for $625
include the bushings that taz is selling (i'm guessing $25 for one, you'll need 2) (http://www.torontomazda3.ca/forum/showthread.php?51381-FS-Lots-of-Goodies-Part-out!) and that's $50
install at Jimmy's for whatever he charges, let's say less than $200 as a guess.
that's still under $900.
bottom line is you have options...and, if you decide to replace the struts with non-OEM, do yourself a favour and replace all 4 with the same kind.
baymoe
03-02-2011, 11:15 AM
why would you not get Koni Yellows for all 4 corners? Having Yellows in the front and stock in the rear could upset the balance of the car as the Yellows are stiffer than stock even at the lowest setting.
as for the strut bearings and what not, check out taz's part out thread, he has a set of front strut bearings FS. depending on the KMs on your car, they may need to be changed as the housing is plastic and has been known to break over time.
$900 is a bit ridiculous for just 2 front struts, strut bearings, labour and whatever else. i'm guessing that's 1.5 hours of labour per side X $100/hour?!
CTA has 1 set of Yellows (http://www.torontomazda3.ca/forum/showthread.php?51079-Inventory-Clearout) for $625
include the bushings that taz is selling (i'm guessing $25 for one, you'll need 2) (http://www.torontomazda3.ca/forum/showthread.php?51381-FS-Lots-of-Goodies-Part-out!) and that's $50
install at Jimmy's for whatever he charges, let's say less than $200 as a guess.
that's still under $900.
bottom line is you have options...and, if you decide to replace the struts with non-OEM, do yourself a favour and replace all 4 with the same kind.
+1
Put everything aside for a second and think whether your car is handling bumps out of the norm and not take the dealership's recommendation. Like Flipdady said, it may just be an engine mount. The mount contains hydraulic fluid and has a high failure rate among Mazda3 vehicles.
why would you not get Koni Yellows for all 4 corners? Having Yellows in the front and stock in the rear could upset the balance of the car as the Yellows are stiffer than stock even at the lowest setting.
as for the strut bearings and what not, check out taz's part out thread, he has a set of front strut bearings FS. depending on the KMs on your car, they may need to be changed as the housing is plastic and has been known to break over time.
$900 is a bit ridiculous for just 2 front struts, strut bearings, labour and whatever else. i'm guessing that's 1.5 hours of labour per side X $100/hour?!
CTA has 1 set of Yellows (http://www.torontomazda3.ca/forum/showthread.php?51079-Inventory-Clearout) for $625
include the bushings that taz is selling (i'm guessing $25 for one, you'll need 2) (http://www.torontomazda3.ca/forum/showthread.php?51381-FS-Lots-of-Goodies-Part-out!) and that's $50
install at Jimmy's for whatever he charges, let's say less than $200 as a guess.
that's still under $900.
bottom line is you have options...and, if you decide to replace the struts with non-OEM, do yourself a favour and replace all 4 with the same kind.
I think the issue here is more of budget related. I was going to get the Koni Yellows for the front because I thought well, if I'm having them replaced, might as well go with something durable. However, I cannot replace all four due to budget limitations, at least in the mean time. I think I will give Taz's thread a look and PM him maybe and see if I can get those bushings, then probably go with OEM struts or KYB-GR2's, to
which I am unsure of the quality it has. Apparently quick google search gives the impression that they can be of lower grade than OEM... odd..
+1
Put everything aside for a second and think whether your car is handling bumps out of the norm and not take the dealership's recommendation. Like Flipdady said, it may just be an engine mount. The mount contains hydraulic fluid and has a high failure rate among Mazda3 vehicles.
I am no mechanic, but when I asked to look at the leak, it seemed that there was black hydraulic liquid on the inside of the black protective plastic piece surrounding the shocks. It could be motor mount, but they never said that's damaged.
Maybe I'll take it to MOT and see what they can say, at least for a second opinion. After that, It looks like the most economical is OEM struts.
FLIPDADY
03-02-2011, 01:35 PM
FYI, the right side engine mount contains this fluid you speak of. Best to get it checked out. If your mount has never been done chances are it's on it's way out or has already dried out.
FYI, the right side engine mount contains this fluid you speak of. Best to get it checked out. If your mount has never been done chances are it's on it's way out or has already dried out.
Hmmm... Would I be able to visit your dealership tomorrow and have it thoroughly inspected for a second opinion? I can do it early in morning, as soon as 9am.
S.F.W.
03-02-2011, 05:55 PM
Hmmm... Would I be able to visit your dealership tomorrow and have it thoroughly inspected for a second opinion? I can do it early in morning, as soon as 9am.
I would suggest goign to see Jimmy at Street Performance for an inspection rather than a dealer.
+1
Put everything aside for a second and think whether your car is handling bumps out of the norm and not take the dealership's recommendation. Like Flipdady said, it may just be an engine mount. The mount contains hydraulic fluid and has a high failure rate among Mazda3 vehicles.
Speaking of handling bumps, the car does seem to operate like it did when I bought it at 74k kms... Handles bumps decently and nothing seems out of the ordinary. It could mean the struts are good, or the crack could be relatively new that most of the fluid is still intact and over time, things can get worse... Not sure, but I'm going back to QEW to have another inspection of engine mounts as well, in addition to MOT possibly and Jimmy for sure. I think that's the best for now... anyone who disagrees please feel free to give me a better option!
You guys have very valuable info
baymoe
03-03-2011, 11:54 AM
It's a bit of a drive for you, but I'd strongly recommend bringing it straight to Jimmy at Street Performance to have an honest opinion on the issue. He's be terrific with mechanical work that's been done to member's ride as well as my family vehicles. Just make sure to give him a ring to give him a headsup to let know you're coming.
It's a bit of a drive for you, but I'd strongly recommend bringing it straight to Jimmy at Street Performance to have an honest opinion on the issue. He's be terrific with mechanical work that's been done to member's ride as well as my family vehicles. Just make sure to give him a ring to give him a headsup to let know you're coming.
Just came back from Jimmy at Street Performance. He was really accomidating, he checked the front struts, and passenger engine mount.
The engine mount is fine, no issues. The front passenger strut however, is leaking, and needs replacement. I asked what he recommended and he said either KYB or Manroe? struts. That's all that needs to be replaced.
I asked about bushings and he said 'there are no bushings' ... hmm, kinda confused why he would say not when many members do talk about them... anyway, he named other parts related, so he could have named it something else.
So, he recommended after-market struts, and his labour cost of $80 for the both front struts. ..... pretty amazing I must admit. Inspection was done at no cost either.
I guess next step would be to find a good OEM replacement struts, from KYB or Manroe(spelling?) and see where that goes.
If anyone has recommendations, they are more than welcome. I won't be putting Koni Yellows as I should have the 4 set, not just 2. For now, i'm changing the two front struts only.
MajesticBlueNTO
03-03-2011, 02:30 PM
Just came back from Jimmy at Street Performance. He was really accomidating, he checked the front struts, and passenger engine mount.
The engine mount is fine, no issues. The front passenger strut however, is leaking, and needs replacement. I asked what he recommended and he said either KYB or Manroe? struts. That's all that needs to be replaced.
I asked about bushings and he said 'there are no bushings' ... hmm, kinda confused why he would say not when many members do talk about them... anyway, he named other parts related, so he could have named it something else.
So, he recommended after-market struts, and his labour cost of $80 for the both front struts. ..... pretty amazing I must admit. Inspection was done at no cost either.
I guess next step would be to find a good OEM replacement struts, from KYB or Manroe(spelling?) and see where that goes.
If anyone has recommendations, they are more than welcome. I won't be putting Koni Yellows as I should have the 4 set, not just 2. For now, i'm changing the two front struts only.
it's the Strut Bearing that, when the strut is bolted to the shock tower, allows the strut assembly to turn when the wheels are turned. Mazda/OEM refers to it as the strut bushing. difference in words but they are the same part (refer to taz's thread for pics).
it's Monroe and you can get those from Canadian Tire or any jobber/parts place.
you should really price it out... see what a set of front OEM struts cost, KYB GR2, and Monroe. or, if you really want to be cheap, price out Grade A used ones at www.car-parts.com
Alright, so I got several quotes from NextMod, and Mazda Dealership for OEM, Monroe, and KYB struts
NextMod prices:
Monroe = $280 (fronts)
KYB = $500 (4 corners), I assume ~ $250 (fronts)
Mazda dealership:
Monroe = $220.42each X2 = $440 (fronts)
KYB = $159.81 X2 = $320 (fronts)
OEM = $128.19 X2 = $256 (fronts)
Alright, so it seems that NextMod clearly has the advantage for after-market shocks. Having said that, I have two choices now, either get KYB from NextMod and labour at jimmy for $80.
Or, get OEM at Mazda dealership and Labour at Jimmy for $80.
Option 1 (nextmod/jimmy) = $330 + tax
Option 2 (mazda/jimmy) = $336 + tax
Only fear of choosing option 1 is that the aftermarket ones is not a good idea if I am replacing two only? Should I be that concerned? or go for OEM and call it a day...
Having said that, I gotta contact dealership and see how much they do labour for strut installation only.. not the other recommended stuff...
Thank you everyone
MajesticBlueNTO
03-03-2011, 06:36 PM
Alright, so I got several quotes from NextMod, and Mazda Dealership for OEM, Monroe, and KYB struts
NextMod prices:
Monroe = $280 (fronts)
KYB = $500 (4 corners), I assume ~ $250 (fronts)
Mazda dealership:
Monroe = $220.42each X2 = $440 (fronts)
KYB = $159.81 X2 = $320 (fronts)
OEM = $128.19 X2 = $256 (fronts)
Alright, so it seems that NextMod clearly has the advantage for after-market shocks. Having said that, I have two choices now, either get KYB from NextMod and labour at jimmy for $80.
Or, get OEM at Mazda dealership and Labour at Jimmy for $80.
Option 1 (nextmod/jimmy) = $330 + tax
Option 2 (mazda/jimmy) = $336 + tax
Only fear of choosing option 1 is that the aftermarket ones is not a good idea if I am replacing two only? Should I be that concerned? or go for OEM and call it a day...
Having said that, I gotta contact dealership and see how much they do labour for strut installation only.. not the other recommended stuff...
Thank you everyone
the labour cost should be the same for "strut installation only" because you have to remove the bushing/bearing assembly anyway from the old strut to the new one.
for the cost, just go OEM and you won't second guess yourself.
the labour cost should be the same for "strut installation only" because you have to remove the bushing/bearing assembly anyway from the old strut to the new one.
for the cost, just go OEM and you won't second guess yourself.
By that logic, the labour/other recommended parts cost is like $600 bucks? + tax? :whoa
MajesticBlueNTO
03-03-2011, 06:58 PM
By that logic, the labour/other recommended parts cost is like $600 bucks? + tax? :whoa
http://img833.imageshack.us/img833/1149/frontsuspensioncomponen.gif
let's assume parts 8 (the bushing) and 9 are $50 each before any type of discount, that's $100 per side, there's $200 right there.
guesstimate 1.5 hours of book labour per side, that's 3 hours labour at $120-130/hour and then other stuff. so yes, $600 if you go by those calculations
baymoe
03-03-2011, 07:19 PM
Did Jimmy say whether those "other" parts need replacing or just the strut alone? If it's just the strut, and you've decided that you'll be only doing the fronts, get OEM struts and be done with it. Different damping characteristics front and rear (if you decide KYB or Koni) may upset the overall balance and handling of the vehicle. Tell Joe at MOT that you want two front struts (L and R).
$256 plus tax + $80 = $369.28 = End of thread :P
Did Jimmy say whether those "other" parts need replacing or just the strut alone? If it's just the strut, and you've decided that you'll be only doing the fronts, get OEM struts and be done with it. Different damping characteristics front and rear (if you decide KYB or Koni) may upset the overall balance and handling of the vehicle. Tell Joe at MOT that you want two front struts (L and R).
$256 plus tax + $80 = $369.28 = End of thread :P
Only struts need replacement according to him.
Thread is almost over, :P, i'm trying to see how much labour Mazda dealership will actually quote, at least, written or something.
I don't think anyone can do both for $80 total labour!
http://img833.imageshack.us/img833/1149/frontsuspensioncomponen.gif
let's assume parts 8 (the bushing) and 9 are $50 each before any type of discount, that's $100 per side, there's $200 right there.
guesstimate 1.5 hours of book labour per side, that's 3 hours labour at $120-130/hour and then other stuff. so yes, $600 if you go by those calculations
Great detail! Thank you for that awesome explanation :)
No chance the dealership can come close to $80. Best quote I got was around $320 + other stuff...
I guess I will be picking up OEM struts and Jimmy for install!
Many thanks to those who took the time and effort to help out :)
Sounds like I have the same problem, except on the rear passenger side.
I'm probably going to take it in to MoT for warranty repairs.
Sounds like I have the same problem, except on the rear passenger side.
I'm probably going to take it in to MoT for warranty repairs.
Facinating...
Mazda dealer tells me these things are 'wear and tear'... didn't know they are actually under warranty possibly...
Facinating...
Mazda dealer tells me these things are 'wear and tear'... didn't know they are actually under warranty possibly...
That's what Jim said. It's 09 with 24k km and it's already leaking...
bluemazda3
03-16-2011, 03:56 AM
Yeah my rear passenger side is done too.. Nextmod and Jimmy here I come!!!
Booter22
03-16-2011, 06:26 AM
Covered Under 3 years or 80,000 KM warranty, which ever comes first.
Facinating...
Mazda dealer tells me these things are 'wear and tear'... didn't know they are actually under warranty possibly...
Zoom Zoom Boy
03-16-2011, 12:29 PM
Covered Under 3 years or 80,000 KM warranty, which ever comes first.
Not every dealership is as honest, knowledgeable or forthright as QEW. Even some of the better ones will not replace the struts under the 3 year/80K warranty without a serious hassle.
Also a side note to members. If you lower your car on aftermarket springs only, don't expect the OEM struts to typically last you more than 2-3 years maximum.
Booter22
03-17-2011, 08:48 AM
Not every dealership is as honest, knowledgeable or forthright as QEW. Even some of the better ones will not replace the struts under the 3 year/80K warranty without a serious hassle.
Also a side note to members. If you lower your car on aftermarket springs only, don't expect the OEM struts to typically last you more than 2-3 years maximum.
That is very true, it is hard to find a good combo of shocks / struts with after market springs that will last.
Hoodzy
03-20-2011, 02:13 PM
Wow that is insane.. I had all of my springs/struts replaced at a Toyota dealership for about 500 including tax and alignment. Of course that's not including parts. I didn't even shop around.. you could easily find struts much cheaper.
FLIPDADY
03-20-2011, 02:21 PM
Sounds like I have the same problem, except on the rear passenger side.
I'm probably going to take it in to MoT for warranty repairs.
It's covered in your situation.
It's covered in your situation.
Thanks Joe, I'll be coming to see you for a cabin filter when I'm there
So am I right to assume that if you lower your car and your shocks blow while you are still covered under warranty, mazda will not approve them for replacement under warranty?
I'm asking cuz this happened to me...last week :D
S.F.W.
04-04-2011, 03:58 PM
So am I right to assume that if you lower your car and your shocks blow while you are still covered under warranty, mazda will not approve them for replacement under warranty?
I'm asking cuz this happened to me...last week :D
That is correct. Lowering the car puts the stock shocks under increased stress, and they wear much quicker. So no warranty on your stock shocks once you are lowered.
That is correct. Lowering the car puts the stock shocks under increased stress, and they wear much quicker. So no warranty on your stock shocks once you are lowered.
Oh well its doesn't matter..I've been waiting 3 years for my shocks to blow so I can buy Koni Yellows haha
diazjoaquin
04-07-2011, 05:44 PM
Alright, so I got several quotes from NextMod, and Mazda Dealership for OEM, Monroe, and KYB struts
NextMod prices:
Monroe = $280 (fronts)
KYB = $500 (4 corners), I assume ~ $250 (fronts)
Mazda dealership:
Monroe = $220.42each X2 = $440 (fronts)
KYB = $159.81 X2 = $320 (fronts)
OEM = $128.19 X2 = $256 (fronts)
Alright, so it seems that NextMod clearly has the advantage for after-market shocks. Having said that, I have two choices now, either get KYB from NextMod and labour at jimmy for $80.
Or, get OEM at Mazda dealership and Labour at Jimmy for $80.
Option 1 (nextmod/jimmy) = $330 + tax
Option 2 (mazda/jimmy) = $336 + tax
Only fear of choosing option 1 is that the aftermarket ones is not a good idea if I am replacing two only? Should I be that concerned? or go for OEM and call it a day...
Having said that, I gotta contact dealership and see how much they do labour for strut installation only.. not the other recommended stuff...
Thank you everyone
So how in the world is mazda on Yonge north of 401 charging me $849 just for the front shocks without labor? I just found out that one of the shocks is leaking and needs to be replaced, the drive feels good. what is good brand to go with? thanks..
So how in the world is mazda on Yonge north of 401 charging me $849 just for the front shocks without labor? I just found out that one of the shocks is leaking and needs to be replaced, the drive feels good. what is good brand to go with? thanks..
One popular option is to get Koni Yellows. For less than what they quoted you, you can get a complete set from from nextmod and installed at street performance. But that's if you want to replace all four corners.
If you want to just get a single OEM to replace the one that's leaking, PM flipdady.
cwp_sedan
04-07-2011, 06:17 PM
So how in the world is mazda on Yonge north of 401 charging me $849 just for the front shocks without labor? I just found out that one of the shocks is leaking and needs to be replaced, the drive feels good. what is good brand to go with? thanks..
2 struts for $849 without labour? Are you sure you have your numbers right?
diazjoaquin
04-08-2011, 09:51 AM
Hello everyone,
I was in a Mazda Dealership today for an Oil Change and upon inspection, which they do regularly, they found my passenger side *front* strut to be leaking. They said I can hold off for maximum 2 service intervals, so I assume around 16km? based on oil change...
However, i'd definitely like to get it fixed before that mileage hits or time. Problem is, as most, the price of the entire thing is high. They recommend that the left strut also replaced along with the right one... Total for labour/parts with TM3 discount = $855 + tax...
I am not really too excited about this, as this was totally unexpected, and I do not have a budget for this yet, especially not north of 900.
I was wondering what recommendations, or next steps you guys would do if you were found in the same situation... Get Mazda parts from Dealership + jimmy install/labour?
I'm a full time student here, thus the more student friendly this is, the better for me...
Sorry for long rant, but this is not cool...
Thank you for your help in advance :)
Im in the same situation, I went for a tire swap and they told me exact the same thing they told you, I am looking for an advice here as well.. thanks in advance to all of you guys out here always trying to help..
diazjoaquin
04-08-2011, 09:52 AM
2 struts for $849 without labour? Are you sure you have your numbers right?
yep.. actually if you read the last post you will see that there is someone who also got quoted the same as amount.. tx
diazjoaquin
04-08-2011, 09:53 AM
One popular option is to get Koni Yellows. For less than what they quoted you, you can get a complete set from from nextmod and installed at street performance. But that's if you want to replace all four corners.
If you want to just get a single OEM to replace the one that's leaking, PM flipdady.
Thank you!
diazjoaquin
04-08-2011, 10:02 AM
+1
Put everything aside for a second and think whether your car is handling bumps out of the norm and not take the dealership's recommendation. Like Flipdady said, it may just be an engine mount. The mount contains hydraulic fluid and has a high failure rate among Mazda3 vehicles.
it makes sense, I was actually told that my engine mount was broken on the same side the mechanic at mazda told me i needed to replace the shock from , so i guess I will check before i do any replacement.
Thank you guys.
it makes sense, I was actually told that my engine mount was broken on the same side the mechanic at mazda told me i needed to replace the shock from , so i guess I will check before i do any replacement.
Thank you guys.
Hey bud,
I know how frusterating it can be to see that massive quote and it feels like you have no other option. As a student, my budget is very limited.
I am not sure if the $849 price is correct without labour, I think that includes labour. Just double check.
Anyway, your best option is to first confirm that you actually have a strut leaking, visit Jimmy at Street Performance. He just got a new born, so maybe book it in a week or two.
Anyway, if you do confirm that your struts are leaking, and check your engine mounts confirming they are ok, I would just pick up the parts from Mazda of Toronto, since they will most likely have the lowest part price. PM Flipdady for pricing, he's an active member of this forum.
As for installation, take it to Jimmy in couple weeks, and it shouldn't cost you more than $100 for labour. Your parts is around $272ish taxes in if I am not mistaken.
This is the most cost effective way to get your struts replaced.
PS I would suggest replacing BOTH front struts, not just one. If you are not lowering or anything, OEM is fine.
Good luck
diazjoaquin
04-08-2011, 10:52 AM
Hey bud,
I know how frusterating it can be to see that massive quote and it feels like you have no other option. As a student, my budget is very limited.
I am not sure if the $849 price is correct without labour, I think that includes labour. Just double check.
Anyway, your best option is to first confirm that you actually have a strut leaking, visit Jimmy at Street Performance. He just got a new born, so maybe book it in a week or two.
Anyway, if you do confirm that your struts are leaking, and check your engine mounts confirming they are ok, I would just pick up the parts from Mazda of Toronto, since they will most likely have the lowest part price. PM Flipdady for pricing, he's an active member of this forum.
As for installation, take it to Jimmy in couple weeks, and it shouldn't cost you more than $100 for labour. Your parts is around $272ish taxes in if I am not mistaken.
This is the most cost effective way to get your struts replaced.
PS I would suggest replacing BOTH front struts, not just one. If you are not lowering or anything, OEM is fine.
Good luck
thanks.
bluemazda3
04-08-2011, 01:19 PM
love hearing popcorn pop whenever I go over bumps... :)
love hearing popcorn pop whenever I go over bumps... :)
Funny you mention that... I recently notice that when I am making a turn and it so happens that there is a pothole or road imperfection (not that hard to find in the good old city of Hamilton)...
I got struts replaced, but I hear a clunky/pop sound when turning over road imperfections/pot holes... really annoying.. Jimmy says its normal... odd.
nuttygent
04-08-2011, 08:50 PM
This is very amusing, I have been living with a shudder for most of the winter. Just jacked up the car and found rt front strut very wet, hmmmm. You can order KYB G2's on ebay or at performance improvements for reasonable cost. I will be changing them myself soon, it seems Mazda parts are not as robust as they were, 90 thousand clicks and a blown strut on a bone stock car seems a wee bit premature.
Takumi616
04-08-2011, 09:37 PM
Hey guys I'm planning to replace my shocks as well, great thread to find info. I'm debating between OEM, Tokico or KYB. Going to lower on pro-kits and camber kit. Haha yea finally deciding to lower me car :). Any suggestions on combo? I was at Jimmy's as well passenger side shocks is leaking. Planning to replace front and back. Not really interested in Koni because I don't really track my car. Looking for durability and ride quality.
Any suggestion will be great!
standsideways
04-08-2011, 11:01 PM
it seems Mazda parts are not as robust as they were, 90 thousand clicks and a blown strut on a bone stock car seems a wee bit premature.
You could blow a strut or shock with one bump or pothole, with any brand of suspension.
I swapped my OE suspension for tein basics at 100k and all 4 corners were still fine, no leaking.
Really depends on how you drive and how carefully you navigate the minefields that are southern ontario roads.
1nmhbacky
05-01-2011, 09:51 PM
Only struts need replacement according to him.
Thread is almost over, :P, i'm trying to see how much labour Mazda dealership will actually quote, at least, written or something.
I don't think anyone can do both for $80 total labour!
Does anyone know if the KYB GR2 will fit mazda 3 2.0 2006?
I have the same passenger strut problem for the fronts. Think of doing it all at while I'm at it. Already at 113,000 KM.
Thanks,
Does anyone know if the KYB GR2 will fit mazda 3 2.0 2006?
I have the same passenger strut problem for the fronts. Think of doing it all at while I'm at it. Already at 113,000 KM.
Thanks,
To my understanding, Jimmy recommended the KYB GR2's as an OEM replacement that is of equal quality or slightly better. The ride is a bit different however.
In short, Yes, it should fit.
Hey guys I'm planning to replace my shocks as well, great thread to find info. I'm debating between OEM, Tokico or KYB. Going to lower on pro-kits and camber kit. Haha yea finally deciding to lower me car :). Any suggestions on combo? I was at Jimmy's as well passenger side shocks is leaking. Planning to replace front and back. Not really interested in Koni because I don't really track my car. Looking for durability and ride quality.
Any suggestion will be great!
To be honest, I think it depends on your budget and ride preference.
The KYB are similar [almost] to OEM in terms of ride feel and quality, and if you can find ones that allow you to lower, go ahead.
For some reason, when I was trying to lower, most people said you cannot do it with OEM, and most suggested that I get a 'kit' and go with Koni. They were expensive, and I wasn't looking to lower my car. I drive it in winter, and a lowered ride can be an issue in the part of Hamilton that I live in. Heck, my driveway, I would have to drive in on an angle/side...
Anyway... Check your budget and KYB is close to OEM, might be a bit more expensive then OEM, or a bit less. I have heard OK stuff about Monroe, Jimmy said they are ok as OEM replacement.
Hope this helps
nuttygent
05-03-2011, 12:52 PM
I bought the KYB's on ebay and installed them last week, very nice feel to the front end now. Takes about 5-6 hours at a relaxed pace and very reasonable price on ebay. You can get a spring compreesor at any rental shop.
1nmhbacky
05-07-2011, 02:09 PM
Alright, so I got several quotes from NextMod, and Mazda Dealership for OEM, Monroe, and KYB struts
NextMod prices:
Monroe = $280 (fronts)
KYB = $500 (4 corners), I assume ~ $250 (fronts)
Mazda dealership:
Monroe = $220.42each X2 = $440 (fronts)
KYB = $159.81 X2 = $320 (fronts)
OEM = $128.19 X2 = $256 (fronts)
Alright, so it seems that NextMod clearly has the advantage for after-market shocks. Having said that, I have two choices now, either get KYB from NextMod and labour at jimmy for $80.
Or, get OEM at Mazda dealership and Labour at Jimmy for $80.
Option 1 (nextmod/jimmy) = $330 + tax
Option 2 (mazda/jimmy) = $336 + tax
Only fear of choosing option 1 is that the aftermarket ones is not a good idea if I am replacing two only? Should I be that concerned? or go for OEM and call it a day...
Having said that, I gotta contact dealership and see how much they do labour for strut installation only.. not the other recommended stuff...
Thank you everyone
any one purchase from this ebay seller?
I found KYB strut shocks for about 325 shipped for 4 corners
http://cgi.ebay.ca/310275281343?ru=http%3A%2F%2Fshop.ebay.ca%3A80%2Fi .html%3F_nkw%3D310275281343%26_sacat%3D0%26_dmpt%3 DMotors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories%26_odkw%3Dkyb% 2B2%2Bstrut%2Bmazda%2B3%26_osacat%3D0%26_trksid%3D p3286.c0.m270.l1313%26_fvi%3D1&_rdc=1
any one installed KYB struts? My fronts are basically done especially the passenger side. I need to get this done soon.
1nmhbacky
05-07-2011, 02:11 PM
To my understanding, Jimmy recommended the KYB GR2's as an OEM replacement that is of equal quality or slightly better. The ride is a bit different however.
In short, Yes, it should fit.
Thank you for your input. I guess I'll order them now.
Now does any one have Jimmy's contact number, I'm hearing good things about him for installation.
1nmhbacky
05-07-2011, 02:11 PM
I bought the KYB's on ebay and installed them last week, very nice feel to the front end now. Takes about 5-6 hours at a relaxed pace and very reasonable price on ebay. You can get a spring compreesor at any rental shop.
What spring compress do you need? and how much was it?
DualSoul
05-07-2011, 02:57 PM
Thank you for your input. I guess I'll order them now.
Now does any one have Jimmy's contact number, I'm hearing good things about him for installation.
Contact information (http://www.torontomazda3.ca/forum/showthread.php?17212-Street-Performance).
Axela.Noir
06-03-2011, 03:48 PM
Hello everyone,
I was in a Mazda Dealership today for an Oil Change and upon inspection, which they do regularly, they found my passenger side *front* strut to be leaking. They said I can hold off for maximum 2 service intervals, so I assume around 16km? based on oil change...
However, i'd definitely like to get it fixed before that mileage hits or time. Problem is, as most, the price of the entire thing is high. They recommend that the left strut also replaced along with the right one... Total for labour/parts with TM3 discount = $855 + tax...
I am not really too excited about this, as this was totally unexpected, and I do not have a budget for this yet, especially not north of 900.
I was wondering what recommendations, or next steps you guys would do if you were found in the same situation... Get Mazda parts from Dealership + jimmy install/labour?
I'm a full time student here, thus the more student friendly this is, the better for me...
Sorry for long rant, but this is not cool...
Thank you for your help in advance :)
i feel your pain man, i'm on the same boat as you... my mazda 3 has 95,000 km and already the struts are showing some wet spots.
so i will be replacing them sometime in the near future.
chrisd
06-22-2011, 10:21 AM
Hey, this is an awesome thread, thanks to everyone for all your comments and help! I'm looking at a used vehicle that apparently needs struts and shocks replaced, but like the OP, I'm on a student budget. After searching around, is a set of 4 KYB replacements ordered online and installed at street performance my best bet for a good price and quality parts/installation?
Thanks again to everyone, the help you guys give is unreal. Truly appreciate it.
Chris
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