Another reason NOT to buy a HP tablet [Archive]

yearoftherat

08-18-2011, 07:18 PM

When your new product sales are slow, there is no coverage in the press and the price drops with a few weeks of its release, its bound to happen:

http://www.redmondpie.com/hp-takes-the-heat-kills-off-the-touchpad-and-every-other-webos-hardware/

optiklenz13

08-18-2011, 08:34 PM

Ouch! That's going to hurt somebody's for sale thread.

Mitchell3

08-18-2011, 08:36 PM

Ouch! That's going to hurt somebody's for sale thread.

lol thats what i was thinking too

against the grain

08-18-2011, 09:14 PM

+1

Sent from my ipad2 lol

eguiyab

08-18-2011, 09:43 PM

What? So no more cheezy Manny Pacquiao ad's ??? NOOOOOOO......

tweak_s

08-18-2011, 11:54 PM

I' liked WebOS and while I understand HP's concern.. IMO its a bit soon. You don't spend tons of money developing and marketing a product to drop it in... 1.5 months. Really? 1.5 months.

cwp_sedan

08-19-2011, 12:23 AM

I think a co-worked of mine just bough an HP tablet... :S

SilentJay

08-19-2011, 07:41 AM

I know the person in charge of PR in Canada for that product - boy is she pissed!!

rktsci

08-19-2011, 08:20 AM

Unfortunately for HP the numbers speak volumes. Best Buy is storing something like 90% of its initial order because there is no consumer demand and has refused to pay HP for what it can't sell.

yearoftherat

08-19-2011, 08:41 AM

Which is unfortunate for HP. I saw the product at BB and it looks pretty good. In hindsight if they used Android OS, sales might have been there.

tweak_s

08-19-2011, 08:56 AM

Actually, reading the Globe and mail today.. I saw that HP actually wants to go a totally different direction as a company. They're trying to take a look into enterprise services and providing analytics and such and I assume therefore is going to be minimizing their precense in the consumer computing field. So it makes more sense on why a company would abandon such a large investment so quickly (1.2 billion to acquire PALM guys.).

When a company spends 1.2 Billion for the OS/Palm, and X more dollars to develop and market, if the numbers don't work... one would at lesat try to fix the problem. I was baffled they did not but now that I see they're shifting more focus onto their enterprise side.. it KIND OF makes more sense.

The Wolf

08-19-2011, 09:00 AM

I think it makes LESS sense IMO... You'd think they have already decided on the direction of their company long before they accquired PALM..

rzapata

08-19-2011, 11:00 AM

These things happen quite often in the business world.. A company acquires/merges with another company, all assets combined together and financial status reassessed... If profitable based on research, surveys and whatnot, then go forward with it. Although, business is really unpredictable so there are instances when, just like in HP's case, a product is just a heavy burden, then "strategic alternatives" are sought after. This means a lot of things, sell assets, find investors, etc.

I guess it's just not the right time for the WebOS items to be getting popularity among consumers... Not until they figure out a way to beat iOS and android.. It could be a good thing in financial terms, but think about the amount of work and research, scrapped just like that... IMO at least.. :)

coriolis

08-19-2011, 09:22 PM

lol, Best Buy, Future Shop and The Source started clearing out all Touchpads for $99 today. All the horders/employees got to them first :P

Chester_Lampwick

08-19-2011, 10:08 PM

lol, Best Buy, Future Shop and The Source started clearing out all Touchpads for $99 today. All the horders/employees got to them first :P

Damn. I might try to track one down. Is the .pdf viewer software any good? I need a cheap eBook style reader for technical manuals and the small 6" screens don't cut it.

coriolis

08-19-2011, 10:13 PM

Go to BB/FS's site and check for instore stock, go there tomorrow morning and pray that an employee didn't grab it already!

Thrizzl3

08-19-2011, 11:44 PM

HP FTL

iconicrocket

08-20-2011, 12:41 AM

The lowered the price to $99 and $149 and the sellout at FS and BB. lol.

Globex

08-20-2011, 09:05 AM

That's too bad. From what I've seen, their stuff looked pretty good.

Chester_Lampwick

08-20-2011, 09:56 AM

I tried to get one this morning. Was a couple minutes late at Staples. There was a big lineup at "The Source". I tried to persuade people they didn't want them because yearoftherat said so, but it didn't work. I came home empty handed.

stevenma188

08-20-2011, 10:16 AM

Sold out everywhere :(

bluemazda3

08-20-2011, 10:31 AM

$99 is a steeall..

stevenma188

08-20-2011, 12:40 PM

Just ordered one from HP. was charged $500 something for the 32GB one. Hopefully I will get refunded the difference on Monday. Otherwise I'm just going to cancel the order.

Unoriginalusername

08-20-2011, 01:47 PM

$99 is a steeall..

that is a good deal.

The Wolf

08-20-2011, 01:52 PM

I actually liked webOS. Would have liked to pick one of these up for $99, even though I work for a competitor lol

Unoriginalusername

08-20-2011, 01:56 PM

I actually liked webOS. Would have liked to pick one of these up for $99, even though I work for a competitor lol

at $99 i don't think you'd get in trouble. i am sure they are losing a lot of money at that price point given the estimated build of materials is $306 - http://www.maximumtech.com/touchpad-costs-hp-318-materials

so you are almost helping hurt the competition by buying one :chuckle

The Wolf

08-20-2011, 02:00 PM

lol, I wouldn't get in trouble :P
I like PlayBook's QNX better anyway, but they don't give me one for $99!

yearoftherat

08-20-2011, 08:26 PM

According to the website at this time, the Markham store has stock....

TheMaterial

08-20-2011, 08:38 PM

Go to BB/FS's site and check for instore stock, go there tomorrow morning and pray that an employee didn't grab it already!

We had a company wide employee purchase program on them last week...where we got them for about that price.. So most likely employees didn't buy them all out, as the resale value is 0.

Burner

08-21-2011, 06:51 AM

I actually liked webOS. Would have liked to pick one of these up for $99, even though I work for a competitor lol

You still have a job?

:P

Burner

08-21-2011, 08:12 AM

I was just looking at some stuff on NCIX and noticed they have the touchpads listed as in stock. It lists it as supplier stock so it might be a long shot but I ordered one. You have to price match it in the shopping cart.

The Wolf

08-21-2011, 11:57 AM

You still have a job?

:P

Lol I'm one of the "lucky" ones

mbooth

08-22-2011, 12:36 AM

i wish I had known about this sale!

rktsci

08-22-2011, 07:52 AM

As tempting as this was I couldn't pull the trigger to make a buy...especially since its really unknown what type of future software support there will be for this hardware!

rzapata

08-22-2011, 09:25 AM

As tempting as this was I couldn't pull the trigger to make a buy...especially since its really unknown what type of future software support there will be for this hardware!

I would have bought 2 on Saturday if the darn store had stock.. Checked everywhere, nothin... What rotten luck.. It should be good for quick browsing and stuff. As for support and stuff, well, I guess that's the risk people will be taking.. I figure since they've scrapped the whole thing there will no longer any support of some sort... Just me though....

Unoriginalusername

08-22-2011, 09:37 AM

I would have bought 2 on Saturday if the darn store had stock.. Checked everywhere, nothin... What rotten luck.. It should be good for quick browsing and stuff. As for support and stuff, well, I guess that's the risk people will be taking.. I figure since they've scrapped the whole thing there will no longer any support of some sort... Just me though....

they issued a statement clarifying that they will continue to support the sw; they are just exiting the HW side of the business

baymoe

08-22-2011, 09:38 AM

On our way to the bike park in Barrie, we dropped by several The Source stores and all of them had sold out of these units. Sh!t hit the fan when it got posted on RFD. As of last night, that thread was close to 500 (two zeros) pages long!

rzapata

08-22-2011, 09:52 AM

they issued a statement clarifying that they will continue to support the sw; they are just exiting the HW side of the business

See, I didn't know that.. I guess it's good for those who bought it..

I wish they'd have more stock this week or next.. People in Kijiji are selling it for like 200 - 300.. :bang I mean, what the hell???

Burner

08-22-2011, 10:16 AM

Support for WebOS isn't even on my radar. There are developers out there that are close to getting it to run Android. The new found popularity of the device with definitely fast track that.

Unoriginalusername

08-22-2011, 10:17 AM

See, I didn't know that.. I guess it's good for those who bought it..

I wish they'd have more stock this week or next.. People in Kijiji are selling it for like 200 - 300.. :bang I mean, what the hell???

If they bought them at full price they are stupid since HP said they will refund people who bought them at full price to the $99 price that they have in place now. If they bought them for 99 and are trying to sell for more that is also crazy since the ecosystem will never be vibrant

Fuyuzora

08-22-2011, 02:01 PM

My dad managed to nab #15 of the 16 they had at Future Shop near me.

Played around with it a little so far, seems pretty decent. While I still think I'll pick up the Nexus tablet whenever it's released, the Touchpad seems like a pretty solid internet device for general browsing/YouTube/whatever.

London3

08-22-2011, 08:14 PM

Snagged one this morning, loving it for $99. Does it have all the support/apps an ipad has? no, so thus I still have a laptop. Is it great for surfing/facebook/youtubes/PDF reading- flawless.
And again...its $99. REALLY cant go wrong despite what anyone says.
The fact that they are working to get Android on it ASAP is just a massive massive bonus :D

rzapata

08-22-2011, 08:26 PM

TheMaterial

08-22-2011, 10:29 PM

k13

08-22-2011, 10:31 PM

Anyone score one? I have one on order from hp.ca.... lets see if they actually ship one...

dentinger

08-22-2011, 11:10 PM

ive been trying to track on down. sold out everywhere online.
Barnes and Noble had em online the other day, but wouldnt ship to Canada. ****ers.

amazon and HP had em, but one site was sold out, and the other was selling them for $400. **** that.

omalak

08-22-2011, 11:33 PM

RFD effect :( sigh.. missed the boat again..

Skip

08-22-2011, 11:45 PM

RFD is a blessing and a curse I swear, I didn't even need a tablet..but now I'm so sad because I can't find one in stock anywhere. I made a mistake of opting for store pickup vs shipping it..and I did it on Friday when they still had online stock at BB :(

dentinger

08-22-2011, 11:54 PM

i dont need one either, but for $100?! why the hell not?

k13

08-23-2011, 12:00 AM

That RFD thread about the tablet is EPIC...

Burner

08-23-2011, 11:10 AM

This is going to get funny. Once the feeding frenzy is over, all these people that bought multiple units to sell for a profit are going to realize that they might actually lose money on them. I've already seen a few situations arise where people sold them on ebay thinking that their internet orders were good. Now they're on the hook for the ebay fees and negative feedback because their orders got cancelled.

In the end, this is a tablet that nobody cared about up until last friday. The only reason people care now is because it was a good deal. I'm seeing kijiji adds for anywhere from $50 to $300 profit margins. For those prices you could buy yourself a nice second hand iPad or a really nice used Android tablet. I have an order in for one. If I get it, I get it. If I don't get it, life will go on without having a tablet. The hoarders can suck it.

Chester_Lampwick

08-23-2011, 06:41 PM

This is going to get funny. Once the feeding frenzy is over, all these people that bought multiple units to sell for a profit are going to realize that they might actually lose money on them.

Hey, if anyone gets stuck with one new in box, I'd pay the $100-$150 you paid for it. I've been casually looking for an eBook reader for technical manuals in pdf form. I don't like the small 6" readers, and I don't want to pay iPad money for a tablet.

SilentJay

08-23-2011, 10:06 PM

+1 Been looking to pick up a sealed one for the gf's christmas present

rzapata

08-24-2011, 01:17 PM

Check this link (http://toronto.kijiji.ca/c-buy-and-sell-computers-HP-Touchpad-16GB-ONLY-999-NO-LOWBALLERS-W0QQAdIdZ308379348) out... Quite funny and outrageous at the same time. :chuckle

stevenma188

08-24-2011, 02:33 PM

At least he's honest

stevenma188

08-26-2011, 11:53 AM

Just picked one up today from the university computer store. Maybe I'll end up with 2 if my HP.ca order actually goes through.

XTOTHEL

08-26-2011, 11:56 AM

Just picked one up today from the university computer store. Maybe I'll end up with 2 if my HP.ca order actually goes through.

Buy me one from the university store steve :( I'll pay you back D:

stevenma188

08-26-2011, 12:05 PM

Can't. Had to reserve it a few days ago, and they only allowed me to reserve one. All the ones they got in are spoken for.

XTOTHEL

08-26-2011, 12:45 PM

Can't. Had to reserve it a few days ago, and they only allowed me to reserve one. All the ones they got in are spoken for.

gimme your other one duh :)

stevenma188

08-26-2011, 02:13 PM

We'll see. That's assuming I get it. Plus, I wanted to be like the hoarders and list it on Kijiji for MUCHO PROFIT!

XTOTHEL

08-26-2011, 03:09 PM

We'll see. That's assuming I get it. Plus, I wanted to be like the hoarders and list it on Kijiji for MUCHO PROFIT!

I'll take that as a sure :)

-cj-

08-26-2011, 03:31 PM

I ordered one on NCIX but they haven't approved my price match yet. Anyone else have this issue?

Pyro

08-26-2011, 03:36 PM

I ordered one on NCIX but they haven't approved my price match yet. Anyone else have this issue?

check the forum, they said that they will send one to a household and honor the price match - so if you ordered 2+ they are going to cut your order down to 1
but only for as much stock as they can get
if you ordered too late, wont be getting it

my buddy ordered 2 (one for me) but since they are cutting it down to one, i got screwed lol

XTOTHEL

08-26-2011, 03:36 PM

I ordered one on NCIX but they haven't approved my price match yet. Anyone else have this issue?

read the large ass RFD thread lol...http://forums.redflagdeals.com/merged-hp-touchpad-16gb-99-99-32gb-149-99-everywhere-1072318/1512/

it talks about it there somewhere...been reading it all morning, few more pages every few minutes lol.

SilentJay

08-26-2011, 03:38 PM

:D Got an email from staples, called in immediately, got my hands on a 32gb!

XTOTHEL

08-26-2011, 03:45 PM

:D Got an email from staples, called in immediately, got my hands on a 32gb!

was that because you ordered? :( Or can I just call in too lol.

SilentJay

08-26-2011, 10:58 PM

They apparently had a few in stock too, but it was because I ordered but they ran out too quickly. On a related note, it just showed up today :D

Noisy Crow

08-27-2011, 06:20 PM

I picked up a 32GB one on Tuesday at the FS on Vega in Mississauga... I popped in a lunch time in, asked if they had any, and the guy said they just pulled some off of the truck :) Turns out that they had exactly two units... I got the first one, another guy the second, and then there were several unhappy people asking afterward.

I also picked up the rubberized case for full price at Best Buy, figuring I'll use their price-guarantee once it drops in price, which it did. Picked up the Bluetooth keyboard and the charging stand for half price at Staples.

It's actually a pretty good unit. Was a bit sluggish, but with some patching and overclocking it runs great. Haven't found a decent ebook reader for it yet... hopefully Adobe will release Digital Editions for it. Kindle software is supported, but I don't know if I can import the ebooks I already have into it.

SilentJay

08-28-2011, 12:13 AM

I picked up a 32GB one on Tuesday at the FS on Vega in Mississauga... I popped in a lunch time in, asked if they had any, and the guy said they just pulled some off of the truck :) Turns out that they had exactly two units... I got the first one, another guy the second, and then there were several unhappy people asking afterward. I also picked up the rubberized case for full price at Best Buy, figuring I'll use their price-guarantee once it drops in price, which it did. Picked up the Bluetooth keyboard and the charging stand for half price at Staples.

It's actually a pretty good unit. Was a bit sluggish, but with some patching and overclocking it runs great. Haven't found a decent ebook reader for it yet... hopefully Adobe will release Digital Editions for it. Kindle software is supported, but I don't know if I can import the ebooks I already have into it.

Really hoping for a good touchdroid port :P

Skip

09-20-2011, 10:42 PM

Anyone still looking for one? I might have a 32GB BNIB for sale at cost.. I really like mine, its quick and is great for surfing/watching movies etc. Hopefully we see android!

XTOTHEL

09-20-2011, 10:44 PM

Anyone still looking for one? I might have a 32GB BNIB for sale at cost.. I really like mine, its quick and is great for surfing/watching movies etc. Hopefully we see android!

Interested.

RTEnthusiast

09-20-2011, 10:47 PM

Anyone still looking for one? I might have a 32GB BNIB for sale at cost.. I really like mine, its quick and is great for surfing/watching movies etc. Hopefully we see android!

Interested and am willing to pay what the guy above me is + an extra 25 cents. :)

Jeff-TheBiz

09-21-2011, 08:13 AM

Interested and am willing to pay what the guy above me is + an extra 25 cents. :)

+1

+$5.00

Pm me if you are serious

RTEnthusiast

09-21-2011, 09:46 AM

lol Jeff

XTOTHEL

09-21-2011, 10:04 AM

:( I hate you two :(

http://vkfreez.files.wordpress.com/2010/06/i_hate_you.jpg

stevenma188

09-22-2011, 05:53 PM

For all those that want a Touchpad, mine has just been shipped. Let the bidding war begin :P

canada man

09-22-2011, 06:25 PM

just got mine in the mail today. it's s good device for surfing and videos, but that's pretty much it. However, i cant wait for the android port to be released, that will make this touchpad super awesome.

thanu31

09-22-2011, 06:42 PM

For all those that want a Touchpad, mine has just been shipped. Let the bidding war begin :P

no Steven, just stop lol

stevenma188

09-22-2011, 06:46 PM

NEVER!

Noisy Crow

09-22-2011, 07:44 PM

Cyanogen is making good progress:
http://rootzwiki.com/showthread.php?5631-CyanogenMod-Android-port-Repeatedly-Asked-Questions

Fuyuzora

09-22-2011, 07:46 PM

For all those that want a Touchpad, mine has just been shipped. Let the bidding war begin :P

I have a friend who's looking for one. Will PM you when I get in.

- Sent from my Android smartphone using Tapatalk

canada man

09-22-2011, 07:47 PM

Cyanogen is making good progress:
http://rootzwiki.com/showthread.php?5631-CyanogenMod-Android-port-Repeatedly-Asked-Questions

yeah i was reading up on their progress yesterday. I cant wait till its released, probably within a few weeks

Noisy Crow

10-16-2011, 03:24 PM

Alpha is released... head over to rootzwiki:
http://rootzwiki.com/forumdisplay.php?257-HP-Touchpad

I installed it yesterday. Works great. Definitely has bugs, but entirely expected in alpha release.