COBB CBE for Speed 3

[joedemarco]

Hey guys,

this is unofficial news, but from the person that works on the @COBBTUNING account on twitter said that they are working on a COBB CBE for the speed3 and it looks like it is going to be out next year.

Just a tidbit of info incase there is someone out there looking for an exhaust system as I am. My first choice was Borla only because COBB hasnt released anything as of yet, but since I am a big fan of COBB (mainly because of the name and rep, I know that isnt always the best choice, but give me a reason to not like COBB) so I am going to wait to see what happens, I would prefer to have all aftermarket parts be one manufacturer.

has anyone else heard of this?

Joe

[BlueStreak]

Are you referring to the COBB CBE for the Gen2?

COBB did make one for the Gen1 way back but dropped it as a result of scaling back and downsizing their product line when the economy turned sour.

[joedemarco]

Are you referring to the COBB CBE for the Gen2?

COBB did make one for the Gen1 way back but dropped it as a result of scaling back and downsizing their product line when the economy turned sour.

I was unaware of them making a Gen1 exhaust system, you raise a good question, that was stupid of me to not ask for details...I will do so now and get back to the thread asap

thanks.

[joedemarco]

alright so I got confirmation today that there is a CBE in the works for both Gen 1 and Gen 2 Mazdaspeed3

who else is excited as I am??!!

[Fack_Dude]

alright so I got confirmation today that there is a CBE in the works for both Gen 1 and Gen 2 Mazdaspeed3

who else is excited as I am??!!
Dude at the end of the day. The exhaust gives you nothing but zero hp.

[Booostin]

Dude at the end of the day. The exhaust gives you nothing but zero hp.

Yeah it will depend on what other mods you have at the time... if you have a downpipe and exhaust that is a different story.

[loki]

Yeah it will depend on what other mods you have at the time... if you have a downpipe and exhaust that is a different story.

he said CBE. So it's implied there's no downpipe, hence no hp gain.

anyway,

at the end of the day, someone is just excited about modding there speed in the future and using a brand that they like. So don't ruin their excitement. modding cars is supposed to be fun!

even if it means the car will be slow right fast_dude? hahaha. j/k

[loki]

I will say tho, that I'm curious to see the price. If it's anything like their downpipe, it'll be expensive.

[Booostin]

he said CBE. So it's implied there's no downpipe, hence no hp gain.




Thats why I said depends what he has "at the time" lol

If he has a downpipe then it would make sense to free up the flow of exhaust to really see any benefits.

P.S Hey! speed3 with a intake isnt slow haha

[Fack_Dude]

Yeah it will depend on what other mods you have at the time... if you have a downpipe and exhaust that is a different story.

Doesnt matter what type of mods you have. At the end of the day you will still have 0 hp gain.

[Fack_Dude]

It's all about the bling factor.....lol If you want some half decent hp invest in a downpipe and an ap.

[Booostin]

Doesnt matter what type of mods you have. At the end of the day you will still have 0 hp gain.

Cat backs do increase performance...but just not much. My friend saw a slight increase in g/s when they upgraded.

[Fack_Dude]

Cat backs do increase performance...but just not much. My friend saw a slight increase in g/s when they upgraded.

That's right 1 hp if your lucky and a whole tons noise.

[Fack_Dude]

Cat backs do increase performance...but just not much. My friend saw a slight increase in g/s when they upgraded.

Does your buddy drive a speed 3?

[Booostin]

Does your buddy drive a speed 3?

Yes sir...2009

[Fack_Dude]

Yes sir...2009

That's strange. When I upgraded my exhaust system and had it dynoed. I had no gains. I guess I'm doing something wrong.

[Booostin]

That's strange. When I upgraded my exhaust system and had it dynoed. I had no gains. I guess I'm doing something wrong.

To be honest I thought the same thing prior to him getting the car dynoed unless he is full of shit but I dont know why he would lie. Having said that the gains were very very minimal but were still there... you wouldnt feel it though lol

Dont mean to jack the thread but is it a stupid idea to get a catless downpipe? I am looking at some but the catted ones are so much more money lol. I am assuming I would be throwing CEL's with the catless DP.

[BlueStreak]

The variance in g/s could've been due to a change in temperature/humidity.

Depending on how much air the engine is flowing, you may benefit from going with an aftermarket catback to unlock more power. I doubt the stock catback is a restriction with the K04.

[joedemarco]

the exhaust for me is really all about sound. I have the stock exhaust on now and I love it but I just wish It would be a bit louder and give it a throaty sound. It was going to be Borla exhaust if I didnt hear about COBB releasing theirs.

As far as hp gain in regards to exhaust, what system would give it hp gain? TBE?

would a DP and exhaust be the same as a TBE? (I am trying to educate myself, so please excuse my ignorance) I know that a AP would probably be the best investment, but all I have is a SRI so why spend the money on a AP if I really have nothing to tune? I figured once I get some other mods then I would get myself an AP and I would be able to get larger gains from one tune as opposed to having to do multiple tunes as I upgrade the car. make sense?

[Mr Wilson]

Pretty much could say a stock exhaust has three main parts. A downpipe with a cat, a mid pipe with a cat and then everything behind.

A Cat Back Exhaust (CBE) is that 'everything behind'

A Turbo Back Exhaust (TBE) replaces everything from the turbo back

A Downpipe can be bought that replaces just the stock downpipe, or the the stock downpipe and mid-pipe.

The downpipe on the Speed is where the power can be made, though it must be said you really need to start looking at an AP and Fuel Pump as well. Downpipe gives it an almost Subaru sound.

[Booostin]

http://www.streetunit.com/v/vspfiles/photos/MS3Exhaust.jpg

[caquricon]

^ very helpful pic.

I hated the whole fact that some companies sell a downpipe as 1 & 2 while other companies sell them seperatlely. Confused the hell out of me at first.

[chris.joh]

Well that's great news :( to bad I just got the magnaflow system urgh!

[loki]

Well that's great news :( to bad I just got the magnaflow system urgh!

Magnaflow sounds great. And it's relatively cheap.

[ptfire]

The Vibrant exhaust replace 2 and 3.

[joedemarco]

The Vibrant exhaust replace 2 and 3.

that was my other option (other than Borla before this COBB news) I know someone high up at Vibrant and he said he would hook me up. But I havent evert heard someone with a Vibrant system so I dont know if its going to be the sound I want. I know its not legit, but from what I heard on youtube I dont like it, and obviously it will sound different in person, but Im not asking every guy with a MS3 what exhaust he has on. I will just have to wait.

[Fack_Dude]

Yes sir...2009


Magnaflow sounds great. And it's relatively cheap.

And Loki got an additional 20 hp.

[loki]

And Loki got an additional 20 hp.

Fawk ya mama!

[joedemarco]

never heard of Loki...for the hp gain does that include a DP...anyone?

[loki]

never heard of Loki...for the hp gain does that include a DP...anyone?

I'm loki. Fast_dude is just being an ass.

[joedemarco]

lmao, I completely misinterpreted what that post was, shitty.

[Fack_Dude]

I'm loki. Fast_dude is just being an ass.

That's right Im an *******......lol :huge smile

[fywdyl]

http://www.mazdaspeedforums.org/forum/f544/ultimate-racing-catback-exhaust-axle-back-group-buy-92170/

MSF's doing a GB for UR exhausts if anyone is interested.

[caquricon]

Surfing the web and stumbled upon this. Guess its back and at a low price of $725.

http://cobbtuning.com/products/?id=4264

[loki]

Surfing the web and stumbled upon this. Guess its back and at a low price of $725.

http://cobbtuning.com/products/?id=4264

yeh I saw that's been up for a couple weeks now.

quite pricey.

[horto]

that was my other option (other than Borla before this COBB news) I know someone high up at Vibrant and he said he would hook me up. But I havent evert heard someone with a Vibrant system so I dont know if its going to be the sound I want. I know its not legit, but from what I heard on youtube I dont like it, and obviously it will sound different in person, but Im not asking every guy with a MS3 what exhaust he has on. I will just have to wait.

The Vibrant exhaust sounds amazing. I believe a few of the early gen 1 buyers/modders commonly paired it up with the turboxs downpipe.

[Booostin]

http://www.cntracing.com/CNT_RACING_07_08_Mazdaspeed_3_catback_Exhaust_76m_ p/cb-mazdaspeed3.htm

[caquricon]

yeh I saw that's been up for a couple weeks now.

quite pricey.

Very, though everything on the cobb site is quite pricey.


http://www.cntracing.com/CNT_RACING_07_08_Mazdaspeed_3_catback_Exhaust_76m_ p/cb-mazdaspeed3.htm

Damn that is cheap.

I love my Borla, my only peeve is the 5" tip

[Booostin]

Damn that is cheap.




They make good quality stuff. Lots of guys on MSF swear by them

[BlueStreak]

I'd just be wary of CNTs downpipe. There are thoughts that the cat isn't a "high flow" setup.

[pearl3]

I believe "danspeed3" from YouTube has the cnt downpipe and he also did a review based on driving and sound wise. It's cheap for a downpipe but not sure about the quality tho.

[joedemarco]

To be honest, i ddidnt think $750 for an exhaust was a lot of money, when I first bought my car (and being even less educated than I am now) I figured they were upwards of $1000, so I was please to see that it was $750 for a Borla and now the COBB CBE.

My problem is that I'm a man of name brands, Blackberry/Apple, Gibson/Fender (guitars), and when I bought my car I figured I'd do the same. better safe than sorry. I just dont like the idea of putting anything but great quality parts on any of my hobbies (guitars, cars, cycling, hockey).

What exhausts do you all have and their pricing!? please?

[loki]

I have magnaflow and it was $575 all in.

[Fack_Dude]

I have magnaflow and it was $575 all in.
I gots me the Cp-e and it cost me 2 cases of beer and an escort for a buddy. :huge smile

[joedemarco]

I gots me the Cp-e and it cost me 2 cases of beer and an escort for a buddy. :huge smile


Thats quite the deal!!! haha!

[caquricon]

I gots me the Cp-e and it cost me 2 cases of beer and an escort for a buddy. :huge smile

You lucky SOB!

Picked up my Borla for $500 slightly used.

[loki]

Thats quite the deal!!! haha!

he didn't say how much he paid for the escort....

[caquricon]

he didn't say how much he paid for the escort....

:pofl touche

[Mr Wilson]

Or was fast-dude the escort.........

[breakfasteatre]

To be honest, i ddidnt think $750 for an exhaust was a lot of money, when I first bought my car (and being even less educated than I am now) I figured they were upwards of $1000, so I was please to see that it was $750 for a Borla and now the COBB CBE.

My problem is that I'm a man of name brands, Blackberry/Apple, Gibson/Fender (guitars), and when I bought my car I figured I'd do the same. better safe than sorry. I just dont like the idea of putting anything but great quality parts on any of my hobbies (guitars, cars, cycling, hockey).

What exhausts do you all have and their pricing!? please?

to be a man of brand names, you should probably be a man with a job ;)

[Fack_Dude]

100.00 for an hour. Lol

[chris.joh]

Irrelevant for gen 1 owners but I picked up my magnaflow for just a little over 600 installed

[loki]

Irrelevant for gen 1 owners but I picked up my magnaflow for just a little over 600 installed

solid

[joedemarco]

to be a man of brand names, you should probably be a man with a job ;)

You are very right...tell that to the boss that refuses to give me shifts the last 3 months...anyone hiring? anyone have an any renovations that needs to be done?

[joedemarco]

http://www.cobbtuning.com/products/?id=4337


Im already number crunching for this...hopefully I find me a job and can start saving for spring.

[loki]

http://www.cobbtuning.com/products/?id=4337


Im already number crunching for this...hopefully I find me a job and can start saving for spring.

I thought you were saving up for that carbon fibre spoiler lip? :loco

[Fack_Dude]

http://www.cobbtuning.com/products/?id=4337


Im already number crunching for this...hopefully I find me a job and can start saving for spring.

McDonald's is hiring........lol :chuckle

[Booostin]

McDonald's is hiring........lol :chuckle

Did you just quit?

[Fack_Dude]

You would be suprised what i make a year! :thumbsup

[joedemarco]

McDonald's is hiring........lol :chuckle

oh boy, this is embarrassing. believe it or not, I worked for McD for 3.5 years before I left (never actually quit :P) and just yesterday I called them to see if they have a spot for me to go back...AHAHA!!! its amazing what you'll do in desperate times. True story. But looks like I will be going back to work for them in the new year. But honestly, its a great job, amazing hours (and willing to work aorund you when possible) and 50% off all McD across Canada...whos complaining?? haha


I thought you were saving up for that carbon fibre spoiler lip? :loco

lol...thats a minor purchase...thats 1-2 pay cheques and I got it...I need to actually save for the TBE

[loki]

Don't forget you need the cobb ap to tune for the TBE and fuel pump upgrades to make it safe

[loki]

what I'm getting at, is for someone who doesn't have a ton of disposable income, I don't understand why you're fixated on this Cobb TBE which will cost you over $1500 just to buy it.

Not to mention the Cobb AP which seems like you can get in the mid to low $500's
Plus fuel pump internals, call it around $500 installed, or a new cp-e fuel pump, call it $850 installed.

and not to forget the fact that your car is burning oil and you have no idea why.

if you really must go the Stage2 route then why not look into an UR setup and keep the stock catback, and remove one of the resonators if you want more sound. Same option applies for the cp-e downpipe which we can get during a group buy for a very good price (MPS yeh I know I overpaid for mine, F@k you..) and again stick with the stock CBE. Alot of the Stage2 guys here are still running the stock CBE

make sure you car is working properly first and then start worrying about power mods.

you're not in a financial position right now to be a "brand whore"

that's just my honest opinion.

[Booostin]

You would be suprised what i make a year! :thumbsup

Doubt it :P

Joe, I will sell you my ap for 400 lol

[Mr Wilson]

Yay Stage 2 with stock cat-back. Loki, after hearing your car I want a CBE.

The preventative mods for the Speed 3 sucks, guess we can be happy we don't have Speed 6 and all the requirements for better bracing on the drivetrain.

[loki]

Furthermore, there is nothing embarrassing about working at McDonalds if you're trying to earn some money, then good for you.

I had a friend who is an engineer, did his MBA after working in the engineering field for 4 years, and couldn't get a job with his MBA for almost 2 years (he was holding out for a high paying job), and wouldn't take any kind of job in the meantime, even though he was suffering

anyway, back on topic.

Mr Wilson, you know you want a CBE

[joedemarco]

what I'm getting at, is for someone who doesn't have a cent to their name, I don't understand why you're fixated on this Cobb TBE which will cost you over $1500 just to buy it.

Not to mention the Cobb AP which seems like you can get in the mid to low $500's
Plus fuel pump internals, call it around $500 installed, or a new cp-e fuel pump, call it $850 installed.

and not to forget the fact that your car is burning oil and you have no idea why.

if you really must go the Stage2 route then why not look into an UR setup and keep the stock catback, and remove one of the resonators if you want more sound. Same option applies for the cp-e downpipe which we can get during a group buy for a very good price (MPS yeh I know I overpaid for mine, F@k you..) and again stick with the stock CBE. Alot of the Stage2 guys here are still running the stock CBE

make sure you car is working properly first and then start worrying about power mods.

you're not in a financial position right now to be a "brand whore"

that's just my honest opinion.

lol, dont get ahead of yourself...I maybe be car stupid, but Im not money stupid, I have a lot of money saved and invested, but as a kid still in school and seeing what a fkn house is going to cost me in 10 years...im not touching that money. I just dont have much disposable income as of this moment. anyway, this isnt a "i have money, im a boss thread" lol...i have money save for a house...period

Im working on the oil burning issue, called a friend yesterday and hes going to book me in for the compression test and the leak down test. and that is going to take priority over anything aftermarket.

back to TBE: I just like to do things right the first time, I dont like to try and buy and sell to get what I wanted in the first place because by doing that I lose money, and that just isnt smart to me so I save and whe nI have the money to get what I want...I buy it. My problem is I know what I want and I wont buy anything until I can save and afford that. I do it with guitars, bikes, hockey gear etc. In regards to DP/stock exhaust. I understood that with an aftermarket DP you "need" and aftermarket exhaust because the DP opening is 3'' and the stock exhaust is 2.5"...this is what I understood. please explain where I am wrong.

Once I finally get working again, I will start buying the little things AP and FP internals so that when I have the money for the tbe I can get it and get it all done at once...that was my plan (assuming my current mechanical problem is fixed)


And im not the least bit embarrassed about working at McD, I moved through 5 or 6 jobs and McD is still my favourite. It was just embarrassing that he said that...and coincidentally Im going back lol

Loki, its not that I dont want to take your advice, I can see where you are looking out for me and doing good, and I appreciate that. I just cant get over COBB...but I will look around at the parts you suggested and maybe that will help to convince me once I see the results of those on youtube, reviews etc

[Fack_Dude]

Doubt it :P

Joe, I will sell you my ap for 400 lol

What do you know you live in Brampton. Lol

[MajesticBlueNTO]

Im working on the oil burning issue, called a friend yesterday and hes going to book me in for the compression test and the leak down test. and that is going to take priority over anything aftermarket.

back to TBE: I just like to do things right the first time, I dont like to try and buy and sell to get what I wanted in the first place because by doing that I lose money, and that just isnt smart to me so I save and whe nI have the money to get what I want...I buy it. My problem is I know what I want and I wont buy anything until I can save and afford that. I do it with guitars, bikes, hockey gear etc. In regards to DP/stock exhaust. I understood that with an aftermarket DP you "need" and aftermarket exhaust because the DP opening is 3'' and the stock exhaust is 2.5"...this is what I understood. please explain where I am wrong.

Once I finally get working again, I will start buying the little things AP and FP internals so that when I have the money for the tbe I can get it and get it all done at once...that was my plan (assuming my current mechanical problem is fixed)


post results of the compression test so we can brainstorm if there's anything wrong.

As for the CBE, there are some members that have dynoed before and after CBE and the gains are not as substantial as the DP alone. If anything, necking down from 3" to 2.5" allows the exhaust gas to pick up velocity - aiding excavation.

DP + AP + FP should be done before a CBE if safe power is your goal. CBE is mostly for sound and some bling blang. :D

[Fack_Dude]

I think I will have to get this cobb exhaust and Wilson you can buy my
cp-e exhaust.

[Fobio]

Loki...I agree with you and you're not alone in your efforts...but sometimes, shit just falls on deaf ears, and it's like "Shit, I've been young, dumb and stupid once...who the hell am I to stop the next guy from being so..."

But yeah, like when we talk about a part, it's cuz we're ready to buy it...but some ppl just to like to mentally masturbate out in public...lol...

[loki]

members who have downpipe and stock CBE that I can think of off the top of my head:

Mr Wilson - soon I'll convince him to buy a CBE
Horto - although he's already bought a CBE just not installed yet
Breakfasteatre
Fywdyl
MBNTO - unless you changed it for some "Bling Blang" :chuckle
Celestespeed3 - yours is stock no? I know everything else on your car is cp-e

anyway and I'm sure there's a bunch of others as well, so it's more than possible to connect an aftermarket dp to the stock CBE.

Anyway I've got plenty of time to convince you not to spend all that cash on the cobb and buy something else. As you read more and talk to others on this forum, I'm sure you'll eventually convince yourself to go with something more reasonably priced.

edit: Cobb AP and fuel pump internals are not "little things" that's still about $1000 right there.

edit2: just saw Fobio's post - hahaha

[horto]

As fast dude says, $600 bucks is a lot to spend on 0hp gain. (and that was for the cp-e catback; cobb's is twice that)

Mental masturbation, hey, it's a great way to spend the day. Do you know how many ms3 exhaust videos I've watched on youtube over the years? ALL OF THEM.

[loki]

As fast dude says, $600 bucks is a lot to spend on 0hp gain. (and that was for the cp-e catback; cobb's is twice that)

Mental masturbation, hey, it's a great way to spend the day. Do you know how many ms3 exhaust videos I've watched on youtube over the years? ALL OF THEM.

are there any videos of your car? I can watch it with the sound off to make it louder.

just kidding, hopefully you'll be getting your CBE sorted out soon

[joedemarco]

Loki...I agree with you and you're not alone in your efforts...but sometimes, shit just falls on deaf ears, and it's like "Shit, I've been young, dumb and stupid once...who the hell am I to stop the next guy from being so..."

But yeah, like when we talk about a part, it's cuz we're ready to buy it...but some ppl just to like to mentally masturbate out in public...lol...

If you completely read my post...you'll see that I agreed with loki...so maybe my post fell on blind eyes with you. I dont get it with you...Im sorry Im not 30+ years old and have a full time job and make $80,000+/year and can dump cash whenever I want something...for us STUDENTS who have to pay $10,000 for school, insurance, gas...AND VOLUNTEER (with Wayne Primeau, Keith Primeau and Dany Briere) because one day it'll give me an edge for my career as an athletic therapist...yeah, money is tight...and so I do research and save money for when I can buy it. Im sorry that I spoke about buying a product before I can afford it...I'll be sure to never do that again.

Thanks to fast_dude, loki, booostin, MajesticBlueNTO, and Mr.Wilson for posting something constructive on this thread and seem to give me advice instead of being sarcastic. Ill be sure to PM you individually for when I seek for advice if Fobio is going to shit on me everytime I ask advice or get excited about a product.

[joedemarco]

As fast dude says, $600 bucks is a lot to spend on 0hp gain. (and that was for the cp-e catback; cobb's is twice that)

Mental masturbation, hey, it's a great way to spend the day. Do you know how many ms3 exhaust videos I've watched on youtube over the years? ALL OF THEM.


COBB CBE is $725...their TBE = DP + CBE is $1300...but I understand your point for 0hp gain...and it is noted.

[loki]

COBB CBE is $725...their TBE = DP + CBE is $1300...but I understand your point for 0hp gain...and it is noted.

thats the price posted on their website though, you'd have to see who can bring that in and at what price you can get it for, and if you buy it yourself, you're looking at shipping, duty taxes etc. So $1300 on their website doesn't mean it'll cost you $1300. It could cost you less, but most likely it'll cost you more.

If you go with say UR as some of the guys did for the group buy they were offering, downpipe was around $450 and pick up was local.

Also as far as cp-e goes, we know the fixed costs to bring in the downpipe as well as the catback.

[joedemarco]

thats the price posted on their website though, you'd have to see who can bring that in and at what price you can get it for, and if you buy it yourself, you're looking at shipping, duty taxes etc. So $1300 on their website doesn't mean it'll cost you $1300. It could cost you less, but most likely it'll cost you more.

If you go with say UR as some of the guys did for the group buy they were offering, downpipe was around $450 and pick up was local.

Also as far as cp-e goes, we know the fixed costs to bring in the downpipe as well as the catback.

I would order it from a local shop, local pick up, I would pay taxes on top of that. But if I did anything but COBB it would be cp-e or vibrant. I have yet to compare prices for all of them, I will do more homework after tomorrow when my last exam is over.

[Fobio]

Shit on your thread? Lol...then let me properly rain in on the parade now.

Doing reserach = reading. Talking about how you want the best, yet then claiming that you can't afford it, in a thread entirely made for your personal satisfaction = mental masturbation. Basically all the technical information about CBE has been discussed many many times. No one can stop you from making a thread and asking questions, but this thread just keeps circling back again and again, that it's really turning into a joke.

I made a single post in this thread, to support Loki in his efforts and as a personal sigh, that despite my honest reply to you over PM, that you still feel you have a need to tell ppl:

1. you like quality
2. but I can't pay for it now
3. some day I will, believe me

lastly, and I really have bit my lip over this, but here you are claiming this and that about money (which I suppose is in hopes that ppl will lactually take you seriously), yet you paid me for my SRI and TIH with a FAKE $50 bill. This isn't even about that, but really, knowing what I know, seeing what I see...I can say this...in comparison to how you may be treated on at MSF, where you may already be banned or flamed to a crisp, ppl on TM3, including myself, is still trying to give you free at advise and with a sense of humour. If you're really remorseful, as you said you are, you know how to make amends...but hey, you can claim that I didn't count the money and it's my fault for trusting you...whatever, it's just $50.

Here...now I have properly relieved myself in your thread. Thank you.

[horto]

woah.

http://media1.break.com/dnet/media/2011/10/7/77fe9c8a-b182-433f-8b2d-2bba59268514.jpg

shit just got real

:pop

[Booostin]

What do you know you live in Brampton. Lol

"shakes fist"

dammit

[loki]

"shakes fist"

dammit


What do you know you live in Brampton. Lol


Doubt it :P


You would be suprised what i make a year! :thumbsup


Did you just quit?


McDonald's is hiring........lol :chuckle

are you 2 just about done slapping each other in the forehead with your dicks?

although it is hilarious how you 2 are having this completely separate side conversation.... Ok continue it's funny

[joedemarco]

Shit on your thread? Lol...then let me properly rain in on the parade now.

Doing reserach = reading. Talking about how you want the best, yet then claiming that you can't afford it, in a thread entirely made for your personal satisfaction = mental masturbation. Basically all the technical information about CBE has been discussed many many times. No one can stop you from making a thread and asking questions, but this thread just keeps circling back again and again, that it's really turning into a joke.

I made a single post in this thread, to support Loki in his efforts and as a personal sigh, that despite my honest reply to you over PM, that you still feel you have a need to tell ppl:

1. you like quality
2. but I can't pay for it now
3. some day I will, believe me

lastly, and I really have bit my lip over this, but here you are claiming this and that about money (which I suppose is in hopes that ppl will lactually take you seriously), yet you paid me for my SRI and TIH with a FAKE $50 bill. This isn't even about that, but really, knowing what I know, seeing what I see...I can say this...in comparison to how you may be treated on at MSF, where you may already be banned or flamed to a crisp, ppl on TM3, including myself, is still trying to give you free at advise and with a sense of humour. If you're really remorseful, as you said you are, you know how to make amends...but hey, you can claim that I didn't count the money and it's my fault for trusting you...whatever, it's just $50.

Here...now I have properly relieved myself in your thread. Thank you.

This thread was simply to show people that COBB is releasing another CBE for our cars...and the way you supported loki was with sarcasm and a bull shit remark. I have a great sense of humor and ive put up with alot of shit from loki and fast_dude, but your comment I found offensive and not humorous at all. This wasnt about technical information, Im not educated enough to teach anyone anything. It was just for other COBB fans to see that they have released a new product and if you are interested...here you go. thats all this thread was for. And I stated yes...I am interested, everyone brought up the money issue...and ****, if I need to go broke to buy everything I said I want to prove something then I dont think its me that has an issue...Im interested in products, I ask questions.

I said I like to do things right the first time...meaning "I'll wait until I can do it." I dont know what I have to prove to you, I told you I respected you and what you can do, and maybe its my interpretation of your messages but yes I do feel like you talk down to me.

THAT DAY we met, I said take a look, count the money...and in all honesty despite who everyone else wants to believe I said that because my father taught me it was rude to count money in front of the person that paid you...so I opened that door so that you didnt have to feel obligated to do so.

I didnt know there was a fake bill in there, my dad paid me for doing a job with him and from that cash I brought it directly to you...you didnt bring this up until after the seminar where i already paid you the REAL $20, and like I said...if i got away (at that point) knowing I gave you a fake $50 dont you think I would have given you a fake $20 also?! I told you to look through the cash and tell me if there was a fake $20...no response so Im taking it as no there wasnt...and thats because the fake $50 was a misunderstanding....had you brought it up, minutes after I left our meeting I would have been more than happy to go the bank and do what was right, but you waited 2 months...theres nothing I can do about that now.

If these guys dont want to do business with me...thats fine but I know Fobio is a huge part of this forum and it would be completely ****ing retarded of me to knowingly screw him over and #1 show my face at the seminar and #2 continue to post on this forum.

I dont use MSF because that forum is impossible to navigate.

Noone actually understands how much I appreciate the help I get, when someone PM's me or answers a concern and I say "thank you" it comes from the bottom of my heart in the greatest appreciation...Im a very appreciative kid and Im the last one to purposely screw people over, Ive been there, and I would never do the same to someone else.

Im Sorry.

Joe

[cSPEED]

members who have downpipe and stock CBE that I can think of off the top of my head:

Mr Wilson - soon I'll convince him to buy a CBE
Horto - although he's already bought a CBE just not installed yet
Breakfasteatre
Fywdyl
MBNTO - unless you changed it for some "Bling Blang" :chuckle
Celestespeed3 - yours is stock no? I know everything else on your car is cp-e

anyway and I'm sure there's a bunch of others as well, so it's more than possible to connect an aftermarket dp to the stock CBE.

Anyway I've got plenty of time to convince you not to spend all that cash on the cobb and buy something else. As you read more and talk to others on this forum, I'm sure you'll eventually convince yourself to go with something more reasonably priced.

edit: Cobb AP and fuel pump internals are not "little things" that's still about $1000 right there.

edit2: just saw Fobio's post - hahaha

I as well have CP-e Catted DP and stock CBE with 1 resonator cut out. Shit sounds amazing y0. I was so tempted to buy the corksport catback but **** for 500$ I could do so much better and my car already sounds amazing so that's likely gonna be last.

[chris.joh]

If you completely read my post...you'll see that I agreed with loki...so maybe my post fell on blind eyes with you. I dont get it with you...Im sorry Im not 30+ years old and have a full time job and make $80,000+/year and can dump cash whenever I want something...for us STUDENTS who have to pay $10,000 for school, insurance, gas...AND VOLUNTEER (with Wayne Primeau, Keith Primeau and Dany Briere) because one day it'll give me an edge for my career as an athletic therapist...yeah, money is tight...and so I do research and save money for when I can buy it. Im sorry that I spoke about buying a product before I can afford it...I'll be sure to never do that again.

Thanks to fast_dude, loki, booostin, MajesticBlueNTO, and Mr.Wilson for posting something constructive on this thread and seem to give me advice instead of being sarcastic. Ill be sure to PM you individually for when I seek for advice if Fobio is going to shit on me everytime I ask advice or get excited about a product.


Curious Joe, what school are you attending?

[Shinglez]

Curious Joe, what school are you attending?

+1 Also curious haha

[breakfasteatre]

THAT DAY we met, I said take a look, count the money...and in all honesty despite who everyone else wants to believe I said that because my father taught me it was rude to count money in front of the person that paid you...so I opened that door so that you didnt have to feel obligated to do so.

thats just silly.
Craigslist era buddy :P


My impression of you from meeting you in person and from this thread is that maybe you have your priorities a little backwards. You dont really have a job, you are in school. The mazdaspeed3 is a huge expense when it comes to gas and insurance for a student, and now you want to mod it as well without any sort of income. It seems to me that you would have been better off either sharing your parents car or getting something more economical.


Not shitting on you, but this thread has run its course and should be locked

[Fack_Dude]

are you 2 just about done slapping each other in the forehead with your dicks?

although it is hilarious how you 2 are having this completely separate side conversation.... Ok continue it's funny


Haha.....I love playing with these guys.........lol the true prick that i am.........lol

[joedemarco]

Curious Joe, what school are you attending?


+1 Also curious haha

Sheridan College, Brampton.

Why the curiosity?

[joedemarco]

Curious Joe, what school are you attending?


+1 Also curious haha


thats just silly.
Craigslist era buddy :P


My impression of you from meeting you in person and from this thread is that maybe you have your priorities a little backwards. You dont really have a job, you are in school. The mazdaspeed3 is a huge expense when it comes to gas and insurance for a student, and now you want to mod it as well without any sort of income. It seems to me that you would have been better off either sharing your parents car or getting something more economical.


Not shitting on you, but this thread has run its course and should be locked

Insurance isnt much more than what I would have paid for a GT. and from my company is was pretty much even with that of a civic. like I said...I knew what I wanted, and I bought it...my parents both have cars, but my dad works and my mom has her own stuff to take car of...I used her car last year for school, but was told I needed my own this year.

Theres no need for you all to get strung up on the job issue, its only temporary that I didnt have a job becuase I was working through something. Like I said working with the NHL'er took a lot of my time, and sure I dont have much income now, but come the new year, things will be different...Im very good with my money, and wouldnt be looking into buying the things I want if I didnt think it was do-able for me.

[chris.joh]

All this student talk just made me curious, I have never seen your car at the campus (different timetables more then likely) enjoy our 3 week vacation :thumbsup

[joedemarco]

All this student talk just made me curious, I have never seen your car at the campus (different timetables more then likely) enjoy our 3 week vacation :thumbsup

I see yours in the parking lot closest to Steeles usually on Thursdays (8am) Fridays (9am) I dont remember which day specifically lol, I posted once on the sightings thread and you responded there :P I park at the rec center usually, unless I get a ride with a friend. I love your car, looks great with the black roof.

[Booostin]

Haha.....I love playing with these guys.........lol the true prick that i am.........lol

http://www.threadbombing.com/data/media/24/orly_2.jpg

[horto]

Anecdote: I remember when I was a broke ass student, I used my OSAP to buy a Mustang. I loved that car dearly, even though I could barely afford gas and insurance. I always wanted to mod the crap out of that car, but only ever got as far as a big stereo in the back and cobra rims. I drove that car until the doors literally were falling off. Then I bought a speed 3 and started doing all the stuff to it that I couldn't do to my Mustang as a student. And then some! but f%ck I loved that car...

[cSPEED]

hahah horto I am currently doing the same thing except your mustang is my speed :)

[Fobio]

THAT DAY we met, I said take a look, count the money...and in all honesty despite who everyone else wants to believe I said that because my father taught me it was rude to count money in front of the person that paid you...so I opened that door so that you didnt have to feel obligated to do so.

I didnt know there was a fake bill in there, my dad paid me for doing a job with him and from that cash I brought it directly to you...you didnt bring this up until after the seminar where i already paid you the REAL $20, and like I said...if i got away (at that point) knowing I gave you a fake $50 dont you think I would have given you a fake $20 also?! I told you to look through the cash and tell me if there was a fake $20...no response so Im taking it as no there wasnt...and thats because the fake $50 was a misunderstanding....had you brought it up, minutes after I left our meeting I would have been more than happy to go the bank and do what was right, but you waited 2 months...theres nothing I can do about that now.

If these guys dont want to do business with me...thats fine but I know Fobio is a huge part of this forum and it would be completely ****ing retarded of me to knowingly screw him over and #1 show my face at the seminar and #2 continue to post on this forum.

Im Sorry.

Joe

Just in case you run into this predicament again, your reasoning doesn't fly in the face of the authorities. The onus is on you to ensure that you're paying with legal tender, and not the vendor. You get charged for using fake legal tender...not for accepting it. Telling the police officer that you didn't know the bill was fake and that it's the vendor's fault for not counting is ridiculous...I see you as a young man with his future ahead of him, and that is why I didn't report it to the police. For you to come around and say that it's my fault for not counting, shows the kind of ill thought out logic that has borne this therad.

Why didn't you count it when your dad gave it to you? If you're so good with money as you claim, isn't it your responsibility to ensure you're payign with legal tender? Do you not have enough respect for your fellow TM3 member to ensure that you're not ripping them off?

Let's not drag on this thread...I have made a new one for you to respond to:

http://www.torontomazda3.ca/forum/showthread.php?59549-What-would-you-do-if-you-were-paid-with-fake-50-bill