Pulled over on the 401, need some advice...

[Tweedo]

I commute from Kitchener to Toronto everyday. I drive with my cruise control set to 120km/h religiously. The only time I change my speed is if someone in front of my car is going slow and I can't go around.

I was driving in the fast lane when I noticed a cop following me about 10 car lengths back (he pulled onto the highway a couple of kms back and must have been speeding when he caught up with me). I thought "I'm doing 120, nothing to worry about". When space opened up in the middle lane, I pulled over to let him pass. He hung out in the fast lane until I came up to a car in the middle lane, so I pulled back into the fast lane. He followed me for another km or so and then turned on his lights and pulled me over.

He asked if I had seen him for the last 5kms, I said yes. He asked why I didn't slow down. I said that I don't believe driving 120km/h on the 401 is realistic grounds to get pulled over, and that if he was going to pull me over for doing 120km/h on the 401, he would need to pull over most of drivers on that highway. He kept pulling the excuse that it doesn't matter what anyone else was doing, I was traveling faster than the posted speed limit (100km/h). He then proceeded to write me a ticket for 115km/h in a posted 100km/h (because if he had given me a ticket for 20 over, it would have come with demerits. Wow, how generous).

I am going to fight this ticket, but my question involves how I should proceed? Is this a pretty clear cut case that the judge would throw out? Should I get a company like xcopper involved? Also, if I decide to plead guilty and talk to a prosecutor, and they don't throw out my case (I would be given the option of taking the offer from the prosecutor or going to trial), would that hurt my chances of the trial go favourably for me? I also understand that if the cop doesn't show up to the trial, then I'm pretty much home free.

A couple of notes. The cop followed me between the townline service centers in Cambridge and Hwy 6 South (Morriston). He never presented me with a radar reading of my speed (I honestly forgot to ask, I was so mad at that point).

Any suggestions on how I should proceed?

[Mitchell3]

I have no previous experiences, but for the future, best to slow down when you see a cop, regardless. Its a valid point in my books that 120 is a common base speed for the middle and left lanes, but I wouldnt have risked it and continued to speed. By the sounds of it he probably would have never pulled you over had you corrected your speed upon seeing him. How much was it for?

PS cool another Kitchener member!

[Hoodzy]

Sounds like you are screwed.. you should always slow down when a cop is present.. I've personally been 'clocked' at 20km over the limit when I was only going about 10 over. You can plead your case and usually they'll reduce the ticket for you... but the cop already reduced it. The only way I can see you actually getting away with it is if the officer wrote on the ticket that he estimated your speed based on yours.. then you can say you were going slower as he was only guessing.
As for him presenting the radar speed to you.. I don't think they even have to present it to you if you ask.. but it obviously helps in court if he doesn't when you ask.
Also as far as I know if the officer doesn't show up you aren't necessarily home free.
GOOD LUCK.. it's all a money making scam so they could really give 2 shits about the truth and actual danger speeding presents.. as stats show it doesn't.

[Hyperion]

Would it really have killed you to get off your cruise control for 5 minutes.....

[Jaysan]

what proof does he have that you were travelling 115km/hr?
He would need to have radar your car to see how fast you were travelling no?
I thought the whole, cop travels at same speed is not a valid evidence?

[Tweedo]

The officer stated that if I had pulled over to the middle lane and slowed down to approx. 110, he would have passed me with no issues. I realize that it was probably a stupid thing to try and tempt fate by driving normal with my cruise control on, but the hypocrisy of the entire situation just pisses me off whenever I think about it. To me, it's more dangerous if everyone is slamming on their brakes because they see an officer and they need to slow down.

I think I'm going to go to trial and see what happens. The ticket is for $110, which isn't a big deal. I'm more concerned of the insurance hit because I was pulled over in Pickering for having expired plates only a couple of months ago(a completely stupid thing on my behalf, the officer was really nice about the situation but I completely forgot about the plates). I've been free from tickets for over 5 years now, and I don't really want to deal with my insurance going up.

[Hoodzy]

what proof does he have that you were travelling 115km/hr?
He would need to have radar your car to see how fast you were travelling no?
I thought the whole, cop travels at same speed is not a valid evidence?

Cops can estimate your speed. Says so right on the ticket.. in Alberta anyways.

[ZeroChalk]

lol.. I can't believe you told him.. i don't think going 120km/h is realistic grounds to get pulled over! Last I checked you were speeding regardless if everyone does it or not. I don't think the.. "but everyone does it.." will hold up in court.

[Pillbox2010]

A ticket for expired plates will not go on your drivers abstract. I've had 3 of those in my lifetime(I Always forget) and it has not affected my insurance once.

If I were you I would try and fight it, it sounds to me like the cop was just trying to prove a point that he has all the power and you should slow down when you see them, but they can drive at 130-140 all day if they want to. I drive at 120km in the fast lane all day as well, but you better believe that I slow down to about 110 when I see a cop.

Its a 50/50 chance that you will have the case thrown out on the grounds that the cop doesn't show up. If that cop is known for writing a lot of tickets, I doubt he attends every trial. If he does show up however you are screwed. The judge will look at the ticket and see the "R" at the bottom of the ticket which means the fine was already Reduced by the officer on site. Judges rarely ever throw out a ticket if the cop does show up, and since it was already reduced he will do nothing else for you.

Good Luck.

[Tweedo]

I've been told by many people AFTER this happened that you don't give away information voluntarily. Seems obvious now; I'm too nice a person to be an information withholding jerk lol

I went over the ticket earlier, I didn't see anything on it that would indicate the officer reduced the offense (that I was doing 120 but only ticketed at 115) or fine. I'll check tomorrow and see if there's anything on it. If there's no indication, then there's no proof that I was traveling at 120km/h, correct? Could the court take the officer's word (that he reduced the ticket) over the written ticket, with no proof to back up the officer?

I know I'm making this more complicated than it probably needs to be, I'm just curious.

[cwp_sedan]

lol.. I can't believe you told him.. i don't think going 120km/h is realistic grounds to get pulled over! Last I checked you were speeding regardless if everyone does it or not. I don't think the.. "but everyone does it.." will hold up in court.

+1. It just shows you were a little arrogant and that's also probably why he gave you the ticket. Oh well. Either pay it or fight it.

[thanu31]

like others said, i usually gently slow down/move to middle lane, and cop passes right by with no issues.

I think to the cop, its also a sign of respect and maybe even a check of your ability to be cautious/aware of your surroundings while driving. Which would make sense as to why the first question he asked you was if you saw him for the last 5km.

[Pillbox2010]

I've been told by many people AFTER this happened that you don't give away information voluntarily. Seems obvious now; I'm too nice a person to be an information withholding jerk lol

I went over the ticket earlier, I didn't see anything on it that would indicate the officer reduced the offense (that I was doing 120 but only ticketed at 115) or fine. I'll check tomorrow and see if there's anything on it. If there's no indication, then there's no proof that I was traveling at 120km/h, correct? Could the court take the officer's word (that he reduced the ticket) over the written ticket, with no proof to back up the officer?

I know I'm making this more complicated than it probably needs to be, I'm just curious.

The judge doesn't need to take the officers word for it. Chances of him throwing the whole ticket out if the officer is in the courtroom is slim to none. If there is no "R" marked on the ticket you could probably get the fine reduced IF it wasn't already marked at the lowest fine possible. Since +15 over is the minimum to be fined without points, there is nothing left for the judge to reduce it to.

[Pillbox2010]

like others said, i usually gently slow down/move to middle lane, and cop passes right by with no issues.

I think to the cop, its also a sign of respect and maybe even a check of your ability to be cautious/aware of your surroundings while driving. Which would make sense as to why the first question he asked you was if you saw him for the last 5km.

Great point.

[RedRaptor]

120km/h warrants a ticket on the 401?

Really? Most people are driving 130km/h-140km/s...

I set my cruise at 115km/h on my drives to the cottage and sit in the right most lane...I get passed badly by other cars and they even give me a dirty look.

I guess you caught the cop on a bad day. Fight the ticket.

[sp3GT]

I think your chances of getting this thrown out are slim. Reading what you said in the OP. You stated to the cop you were speeding at 120 km/h right?

If you said that, chances are. It'll be in the officers notes. Plus he already reduced the ticket for you.

Few years back I had a similar situation to you but I was caught by a airplane in Woodstock area. I fought it and got the ticket reduced to a sign violation.

[VectorForFood]

For what it's worth, I've been caught with four separate tickets for speeding in the last three years, fought them all and won, the only one I couldn't win was one where the cop had "estimated" or "paced" my speed.

Radar/Laser tickets are easy to fight and win.

The last speeding ticket I had was over a year ago...

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And I mean that exact model...

www.kmph.ca

[ZeroChalk]

^ err it's illegal.. and seriously why don't you just slow down.

[VectorForFood]

^ err it's illegal.. and seriously why don't you just slow down.

Driving at 120 KPH on the highway is illegal everywhere in Canada, yet 80% of the population does it? (Not saying you're one of them, but you must admit most people do)

What makes that any better than owning a radar detector? ( I realize that two wrongs don't make a right but you get my point)

I have a serious problem with traffic laws that in some parts of the country a radar detector is legal, and in others it's illegal to the point they are treated like crack cocaine.

[ZeroChalk]

I like to keep things simple in my life. The easiest and cheapest solution is to just slow down. If you really feel that traffic laws warrant a change because you like to speed - why not contact your MP?

[bluemazda3]

like others said, i usually gently slow down/move to middle lane, and cop passes right by with no issues.

I think to the cop, its also a sign of respect and maybe even a check of your ability to be cautious/aware of your surroundings while driving. Which would make sense as to why the first question he asked you was if you saw him for the last 5km.

+agree

[sol_searchin]

Not going to lie, you sound like a moron. Posted limit is 100, you were driving 120km/hr... , pretty straight forward here. You DESERVE the ticket for trying to go above that in front of a cop of all people, that's like begging for it. You are also the one making the excuses dude, and NO excuse will work when going to talk to a prosecutor because I'll tell you why, you admitted to the cop you were speeding (they write this down) AND cop was nice enough to lower your ticket (saved you a few bucks).

BTW was this OPP or regional? If it was Cambridge OPP than your pretty much shit out of luck. If I were you I would still try to set up a first attendance, it never hurts to try, the worst they can do is say "to bad so sad" and you end up paying the fine.

[Jackal]

My 2 cents. Fight it and see what happens. The problem is if it's worth taking the time off work to get it reduced.
But I think you should just slow down to 110 km/h when you see a cop. Your best radar are your eyes. You noticed the cop was there, everyone else slows down but you and you end up standing out. When you notice others slowing down in front of you, slow down because there might be a radar or accident up ahead. Common sense advice for the future.
I also recall runner2k's ticket incident. What happened? Did he fight it and win?

[ElectroJay]

+1. It just shows you were a little arrogant and that's also probably why he gave you the ticket. Oh well. Either pay it or fight it.

+1 from me, too. It seems that 120 is the average speed on the 401 but I always slow down as soon as I spot a cop.

[Pokey]

then there's no proof that I was traveling at 120km/h, correct? Could the court take the officer's word (that he reduced the ticket) over the written ticket, with no proof to back up the officer?

Police cars have calibrated speedometers. He will state that he matched your speed.

You lose, every time.

You will also find that speedometers on our cars aren't exactly right on - sometimes I'll be doing 100 (indicated) while my gps will say something like 96. Even if they're both slightly wrong the speedometer will always be on the high side - maybe you actually WERE doing 115 thinking you're traveling at 120?

Short of the prosecution not showing up for court, you lose. After you set your court date, you will realize that it will cost you quite the drive (maybe to Guelph or even Milton) to attend and you will have to take a day off work.

Let us know where your hearing is.

[Takumi616]

You admitted your going 120 on 401 with the cop, Not sure WHY you would do that. He probably logged what you said aswell. I doubt they will drop your ticket, plus you got pulled over a few months back as well. This shows a trend.... Good luck though! :)

[FoXy]

lol radar detector ftw

[Mr Wilson]

Wow a cop between the Loo and Toronto. I think in 8 years I've seen 4........Loo to London is another story.

Surprised he wasted his time for a 15 over in a 100 fine.....

Was pulled over by Cambridge OPP about 5 years ago. Everyone I talked to pretty much said I was boned as that detachment is pretty thorough. Was able to get it knocked down.

Good luck.

[vinnierap]

WOW!!! for real?? Every single one of us drives at least 120km/h. I agree with the OP. If im doing 120 on the hwy or even 10-20km/h over the speed limit in the city, I very rarely slow down when I see a cop.

You can use the defence that you were going with the flow of traffic and were travelling the same speed as the officer behind you, so you didnt think there was anything wrong with it

[aris]

A couple of notes. The cop followed me between the townline service centers in Cambridge and Hwy 6 South (Morriston). He never presented me with a radar reading of my speed (I honestly forgot to ask, I was so mad at that point).

They don't have to show you the radar gun

[Booostin]

WOW!!! for real?? Every single one of us drives at least 120km/h. I agree with the OP. If im doing 120 on the hwy or even 10-20km/h over the speed limit in the city, I very rarely slow down when I see a cop.

You can use the defence that you were going with the flow of traffic and were travelling the same speed as the officer behind you, so you didnt think there was anything wrong with it

If a cop is behind you for 10-15 min and you are going 120 you wont slow down even if you are passing other cars? Thats just dumb haha

[Pokey]

They don't have to show you the radar gun

That's because there is no gun. He just has to follow you at the same speed that you're traveling.

Sit inside a police vehicle sometime, there is a sticker stating that the speedometer had been calibrated, and there's a record of who performed the calibration and when.

They may have dropped it to 15 over in case you wanted to argue that between the time the car was calibrated and today there had been tire wear (or tire wear was possible) therefore putting doubt into the accuracy of the calibrated speedometer.

[mazdabetty]

Don't you have better things to do with your time? Pay the ticket and be done with it. Who cares.

He was nice enough to reduce it for you, don't push your luck. And not only that but you don't have much of a case seeing as how you admitted to doing 120. You plead guilty right there. So now you're going to go in a court room and do what, lie? Say you were doing the posted limit? Stamp your feet and throw a fit like a child, saying if the cop can do it so can you? I say suck it up.

[gabbygenier]

i say let it go, if you haven't had any tickets in 5 years other then the one that wont show on your insurance. your insurance shouldn't go up too much. its usually at the second or third one they get you. its 110$ to pay. no big deal, the cop was nice enough after what you said to lower it so you wouldn't have points taken off. that alone is him being nice.

ive had cops that are real *******s compared to that and if you would of talked back to one particular one i got pulled over by, i can guarantee you would have gotten your car towed.

and +1 to what others said, usually when i see a cop on the highway i slow down regardless what others do i still do it. i dont slam on my brakes but i slow down slowly to the limit

[JonsMazda]

Looks like you were caught red handed. Pay up, man up, and learn from this experience.

[leungalv]

Though it’s kind of moot to indicate this point at the present time, but anytime an officer pulls you over, you should never admit to anything which would incriminate yourself. You should not have stated what your beliefs are about what are realistic grounds to be pulled over; black letter law is that you were in excess of the posted maximum speed limit.

Further, I would probably consider adjusting your attitude before going to court. Regardless of the reduction, the officer did reduce your ticket in an effort to prevent you from getting any demerit points. You should proceed with a little bit of humility if you're going to take this to court.

If there's no demerit points, and no insurance hike, I might suggest just paying the ticket. Though having said that, has your court date been set? The first step is to file a formal request for disclosure to determine the evidence against you.

[chris.joh]

Based on two speeding tickets, I have received over 3 years ago in Kitchener. Depending on what financial position you are in I'd say its worth fighting the ticket 115 in a 100 is such a minor ticket in the prosecutors eyes, but keep in mind they will want some sort of compensation. I used ticket defenders twice (In the Tim Horton's Plaza by sunrise center) worth every penny they had both tickets thrown out in court. Just my $0.02 Good luck

[Rob23]

you don't need a radar detector if you drive smart, and that includes slowing down when you see cops.

[bluntman]

and staying out of the left lane unless to pass.

[hgmahaha]

I think its always safer to have the cop in front of you.. I always let them pass.. if they don't.. that's a bad sign. I was heading towards TO from OTT and saw a cop driving slower than normal.. everyone around slowed down.. I ended passing the cop (super nervous). Cop ends up pulling someone else he's been tailing (most likely not for speeding tho)

Anyways, good luck fighting the ticket. By the way, I thought insurance will know that you received a ticket regardless of winning it in court, no?

[FoXy]

too many people saying the same damn thing... how many times can you beat a dead horse... lets end this.

[sudz]

If the cop shows to your court date - you're boned. You admitted to doing 120, and you told him that you didn't slow down. The judge will ask you if you confirmed this, and Raise your ticket to 120 from 115 because you had the gull to try and fight a ticket you admitted you were guilty of to the cop.

[Thrizzl3]

too many people saying the same damn thing... how many times can you beat a dead horse... lets end this.

agreed...

http://i455.photobucket.com/albums/qq273/guranteed_justice/DeadHorse.gif

[Hoodzy]

@ VectorforFood How are you fighting them and winning?

[RedRaptor]

WOW!!! for real?? Every single one of us drives at least 120km/h.

Not according to all the self rightious TM3 members here. I think they all go 90km/h to avoid tickets and to save gas. :S

Next time I catch a forum member with those TM3 license plate frames going over 100km/h on any major highway. I am going to snap a picture and give em hell like everyone here is giving to the OP.

[STeeLy]

I was heading towards TO from OTT and saw a cop driving slower than normal.. everyone around slowed down.. I ended passing the cop (super nervous). Cop ends up pulling someone else he's been tailing (most likely not for speeding tho)

I remember in Calgary, my friend was driving and there was a police car at the front. It's a 60 road, and the police just decided to screw with everyone and slow down to 50, 45, and nobody had the balls to pass them. so my friend just went into the left lane and passed the cop doing 60. She looked over as she passed and the cops were just laughing their asses off.

Also, I got pulled over three times in the summer out west, none of which resulted in a ticket. As soon as I see a police car, I will go down to doing the speed limit (but without hitting the brakes). The three times I got pulled over, none of them were because I was speeding. Every time I've dealt with the police, it was with a very calm demeanor.

The OP's statement of

I don't believe driving 120km/h on the 401 is realistic grounds to get pulled over, and that if he was going to pull me over for doing 120km/h on the 401, he would need to pull over most of drivers on that highway.

Just appear to me like the OP is talking back to the officer (I'm not saying the OP is, pure speculation). I'm not sure if the outcome would have been different had you not say that, but I don't think stuff like that needs to be added in conversation with an officer.

[runner2k]

That is true!!


120km/h warrants a ticket on the 401?

Really? Most people are driving 130km/h-140km/s...

I set my cruise at 115km/h on my drives to the cottage and sit in the right most lane...I get passed badly by other cars and they even give me a dirty look.

I guess you caught the cop on a bad day. Fight the ticket.

[ZeroChalk]

WOW!!! for real?? Every single one of us drives at least 120km/h. I agree with the OP. If im doing 120 on the hwy or even 10-20km/h over the speed limit in the city, I very rarely slow down when I see a cop.

You can use the defence that you were going with the flow of traffic and were travelling the same speed as the officer behind you, so you didnt think there was anything wrong with it

Last I checked...

Speed limits are set for the safety of all motorists and others along the roadway. There is no "flow of traffic" exception... you know that... think back to your driving exam.

@ RedRaptor - there's that handheld cellphone usage law when driving.... I guess that falls into the category everyone does it.

[runner2k]

For what it's worth, I've been caught with four separate tickets for speeding in the last three years, fought them all and won, the only one I couldn't win was one where the cop had "estimated" or "paced" my speed.

Radar/Laser tickets are easy to fight and win.

The last speeding ticket I had was over a year ago...

For future reference, I've been told by "friends" in BC that this is a good investment.

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And I mean that exact model...

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Is it legal?

[mazdabetty]

lol... I dunno if people are looking down on him because of the speed he was going, we all know we do it every day... but most people are willing to suck it up and pay the consequences when caught. And most people can't be bothered to seek out an ex-copper/representation of some sort, let alone take the time off work to fight an already reduced fine.

Unless the cop was truly in the wrong (ie accusing him of going much faster than he really was) then I can see taking the time to fight for the principle, but this is just petty IMO.

[runner2k]

Not according to all the self rightious TM3 members here. I think they all go 90km/h to avoid tickets and to save gas. :S

Next time I catch a forum member with those TM3 license plate frames going over 100km/h on any major highway. I am going to snap a picture and give em hell like everyone here is giving to the OP.


Are you kidding me, uh? 90km/h on a posted 100km/h?

After I got my speeding ticket for 149km/h I learned my lesson. I'm doing 60km/h on the QEW! lol!!


Just kidding..

[STeeLy]

I don't think the issue here is with him doing 120 on a 100 road.

The issue is he wasn't smart enough to slow down with the OPP right behind him.

[rzapata]

Are you kidding me, uh? 90km/h on a posted 100km/h?

After I got my speeding ticket for 149km/h I learned my lesson. I'm doing 60km/h on the QEW! lol!!


Just kidding..

I guess a speeding ticket is sort of a wake up call. I got mine last year, ticket says 20km/h above speed limit. Speed limit is suppose to be 50km/h... When I got pulled over, I didn't have any argument at the time so I stayed quiet while the officer asked me if I knew how fast I was going. But honestly though, I'd normally slow down along that road (Eglinton East) and go at the same speed as everyone else. It's just that day I got so distracted. :( But I just stayed quiet and pretended I didn't know how fast I was going. I'm still fighting that ticket, I want to get it lowered at least to just the fine minus the demerit. It was entirely my fault because I went over the limit and I wasn't able to slow down when the cop was behind me.. Oh well, it happens to almost every driver.

[Slade]

Are you kidding me, uh? 90km/h on a posted 100km/h?

After I got my speeding ticket for 149km/h I learned my lesson. I'm doing 60km/h on the QEW! lol!!


Just kidding..


Sometimes you can't even do 60kmk on the QEW!

I drive from Brant St -> Burloak every day, and 4 out of 5 days the only time I actually get to a 100km is the on/off ramps.

I almost never get over 115, even on the 407, my license is worth much more to me then getting somewhere 10mins earlier.

[greaves82]

Personally in my opinion just pay it. You were doing 20 km/hr over regardless if you are on the highway or not. Would it be any different if you were doing 100km/hr in a 80km/hr zone???? probably not. If you were to try and fight it, the court might take the following into consideration. You were doing 120km/hr in a 100 km/hr and you noticed a cop following you and you didnt bother to slow do, to me this shows deisregard for the posted speed limit even with a police presence. Also, the comment really isnt going to help.

Now if you were to ask to see the radar gun, the cop is not legally obligated to show it to you, as of now the O.P.P have mobile radar gun and they are fixed to the dash (right above the speedometer ...etc)

Someone talked about what evidence he has that you were travelling 120km/hr?? For speeding tickets, evidence is not required, the fact is that you were caught in the act of speeding.

[thanu31]

I don't think the issue here is with him doing 120 on a 100 road.

The issue is he wasn't smart enough to slow down with the OPP right behind him.

+1

[bluntman]

This thread can also be one of these:

http://m.jalopnik.com/5843759/the-ten-cruelest-jokes-played-on-car-forums/gallery/

[sol_searchin]

I don't think the issue here is with him doing 120 on a 100 road.

The issue is he wasn't smart enough to slow down with the OPP right behind him.

+2

Thanks for pointing that out, some don't even realize this haha.

[Jclark]

Is it legal?

That Radar Detector and many other are Illegal. They are not illegal in the States but in Canada they are. from what i was told a couple years ago Police have the ability to detect them and if they suspect you have one they are allowed to search your car for it and the ticket can be upwards of $500.

Now this is what i have been told if it's wrong someone is welcome to correct it :)

[The Wolf]

The horse died hours ago, but I'll chime in anyway.
You were speeding, end of story. Take it like a man and stop being a (cat). Don't fight it, it costs taxpayer money and waters down the whole system. Seriously, the cop gave you the ticket cause by not slowing down you were basically saying "Eff you, I'll do what I want".

[-RJ3-]

you see a cop slow down.. simple as that but these damn taxi's posing as a police car i slow down to those too... Best practice for me which saved my butt many times.

[Manpreet]

you see a cop slow down.. simple as that but these damn taxi's posing as a police car i slow down to those too... Best practice for me which saved my butt many times.

are the undercover cops in taxis are they in sauga?

[-RJ3-]

No it was a pilot project and they decided to squash it. I mean the acab company has reflective vinyl like ghost graphics. From the street it looks like a cop car. Damn them!

[Hoodzy]

That Radar Detector and many other are Illegal. They are not illegal in the States but in Canada they are. from what i was told a couple years ago Police have the ability to detect them and if they suspect you have one they are allowed to search your car for it and the ticket can be upwards of $500.

Now this is what i have been told if it's wrong someone is welcome to correct it :)

It is a provincial law. They are legal in BC, Alberta and Sask. Illegal everywhere else.. In the states they have a communications act which allows you the right to know what signals are around you.. Which they need in Canada. Such BS that they are illegal. I would assume they are illegal on the basis that it makes you speed.. But regardless we all know it's just a bloody taxing of people.

[sol_searchin]

Radar detector fine is hefty (pretty sure it went up in the last few years as well) + 3 demerit points.

[TheMAN]

speeding is speeding, it doesn't matter if you're 10 over or 50 over
you saw the cop, continuing to go 120, or 110 didn't matter... you were still breaking the law by going above 100... if you slowed down and did the speed limit, nothing would've happened

yeah, we all speed, but a lot of us have the common sense to slow down to the speed limit when we see a cop! that usually results in another uneventful trip!


here's some good helpful pointers for you to stay out of trouble:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uj0mtxXEGE8

[mazdabetty]

here's some good helpful pointers for you to stay out of trouble:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uj0mtxXEGE8

LLLOOOLLLL.. 2:04 was probably OP.... :chuckle

[aris]

To the OP their is enough threads about people getting speeding tickets that you could scroll through to see what your options is. Your best bet is to go to a place like X-coppers, or points and get advise from them.... Most people that post on these fourms about getting speeding tickets don't real want advise but like to brag about their ticket

[canada man]

im pretty sure the op is a troll...

[cwp_sedan]

im pretty sure the op is a troll...

...and how did you come to that conclusion?

[JonsMazda]

...and how did you come to that conclusion?

Former troll expert perhaps.

[Thrizzl3]

im pretty sure the op is a troll...

Look who's talking......


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[sharkbait]

That Radar Detector and many other are Illegal. They are not illegal in the States but in Canada they are. from what i was told a couple years ago Police have the ability to detect them and if they suspect you have one they are allowed to search your car for it and the ticket can be upwards of $500.

Now this is what i have been told if it's wrong someone is welcome to correct it :)

You're absolutely correct. They can detect this. I know this for a fact!
More and more people are getting caught with them. You almost never hear of anyone who has radar's in their cars anymore.


Seriously, the cop gave you the ticket cause by not slowing down you were basically saying "Eff you, I'll do what I want".

+1, Couldn't agree with you more!



but these damn taxi's posing as a police car i slow down to those too...

I hate when that happens! I know what your talking about. Even if you know it's a taxi, it's best to just slow down anyways and obey the rules of the road just in case a cop is sneaky and smarter than you and you get caught.

I think the best way to fight a ticket is this.... DONT GET A TICKET IN THE FIRST PLACE!
Simply slow down. Next time you're in a rush and speeding and weaving in and out of traffic ask yourself if its' worth risking your own life as well as others in the process just to save 5 mins? I'd say ask those who know from experience but half of them are dead because speed kills and so does neglecting the law.

I guess the saying "becareful of the idiots out there on the road" shouldn't be taken lightly. Drive safe everyone. Plus, in your favour, doing the speed limit means better full ecomony for your car
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[Soulsofmischief]

To the OP their is enough threads about people getting speeding tickets that you could scroll through to see what your options is. Your best bet is to go to a place like X-coppers, or points and get advise from them.... Most people that post on these fourms about getting speeding tickets don't real want advise but like to brag about their ticket

kinda like a poker bad beat story lol..

but seriously i cant believe this thread is still going.

[Hoodzy]

Radar detector fine is hefty (pretty sure it went up in the last few years as well) + 3 demerit points.
Wow demerit points!?!?!? Ontario is such a police state.. You guys need to fight back.

[rzapata]

Wow, can't believe this is still going.... :chuckle