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cedrek
10-02-2011, 07:06 PM
could i have your opinions on whether or not to upgrade to cdfp once my cork sport cbe,race pipe,sri and hypertech have been installed?i did some research and was told the stock pump could handle up to 400 hp....

SomeGuy
10-02-2011, 07:14 PM
Not on the 2010+'s it can't...the fueling logic in the new ecu's dumps fuel in (further lowering fuel pressure) when it drops below 1600psi. Basically you can do intake and a catback exhaust before you need the fuel pump...if you want to do an intercooler (top or front) or a downpipe (cat delete) then you need the fuel pump.

cedrek
10-02-2011, 07:32 PM
thanks for the info.i guess its time to open the cheque book and fork out 600 bones for a cdfp.

loki
10-02-2011, 07:35 PM
thanks for the info.i guess its time to open the cheque book and fork out 600 bones for a cdfp.

they're not 600 bucks. they're alot closer to 800

Booostin
10-02-2011, 07:50 PM
they're not 600 bucks. they're alot closer to 800

Yeah.. when someone finds one for 600 let me know please lol

boyracer
10-02-2011, 08:39 PM
Damn...$$$$$ I'm going to be poor! :(. m But my speed will be faster, so :huge smile

Darkice
10-03-2011, 04:35 AM
Damn...$$$$$ I'm going to be poor! :(. m But my speed will be faster, so :huge smile

Lol faster for what? , ur still gonna drive the same speed limits as everyone else lol

boyracer
10-03-2011, 05:45 AM
Lol faster for what? , ur still gonna drive the same speed limits as everyone else lol

....or am I?

SomeGuy
10-03-2011, 12:37 PM
Lol faster for what? , ur still gonna drive the same speed limits as everyone else lol

But you can get to that speed limit much faster :)

boyracer
10-03-2011, 12:54 PM
But you can get to that speed limit much faster :)

well put :)

Fack_Dude
10-03-2011, 01:37 PM
well put :)

I wouldn't say faster maybe reasonable quick. Unless you go meth. :). Meth here I come it's being installed Friday. Then what's next on the list. Maybe big turbo and blue streaks forged 2nd motor. With this stuff installed now your talking fast. Lol

boyracer
10-03-2011, 01:56 PM
I wouldn't say faster maybe reasonable quick. Unless you go meth. :). Meth here I come it's being installed Friday. Then what's next on the list. Maybe big turbo and blue streaks forged 2nd motor. With this stuff installed now your talking fast. Lol

nice, but I still think you're :loco....:huge smile

Fack_Dude
10-03-2011, 02:02 PM
Lol faster for what? , ur still gonna drive the same speed limits as everyone else lol

Atleast it will be faster than your 3 getting to the speed limit. :huge smile

KING1307
10-03-2011, 08:02 PM
lol cool it. are u sayin the 1st gen ms3's pumps can handle up to 400?

Fack_Dude
10-03-2011, 09:40 PM
the stock pump can't handle shit........

zzz3
10-03-2011, 11:20 PM
Lol faster for what? , ur still gonna drive the same speed limits as everyone else lol

he bought a mazdaspeed3 not a mazdaspeedlimit3 LOL.

btw thats actually someones quote from here but i forget who...

Kiyomi
10-04-2011, 02:38 PM
Damn...$$$$$ I'm going to be poor! :(. m But my speed will be faster, so :huge smile

yes!!!! :D :D :D

greardon
10-04-2011, 04:13 PM
Not sure about shipping and all but its 667.00 http://www.cp-e.com/products/mazdaspeed3-gen1/mzr-disi-23-hpfpump%E2%84%A2 and there is a core charge of 300 so you send in your pump and they update it for someone else to buy. It is the original pump they just update it to handle to load you need so no def not 800 maybe 400 once your core charge is returned, hope this helps

greardon
10-04-2011, 04:23 PM
Your original fuel pump must be returned within 45 days of delivery for this $395 core charge to be refunded., +$395.00 - i stand corrected :) even cheaper in the end

Booostin
10-04-2011, 04:39 PM
I wouldn't say faster maybe reasonable quick. Unless you go meth. :). Meth here I come it's being installed Friday. Then what's next on the list. Maybe big turbo and blue streaks forged 2nd motor. With this stuff installed now your talking fast. Lol

What will meth give you? a extra 20-30 hp? depending on your tune of course.

loki
10-04-2011, 07:11 PM
Your original fuel pump must be returned within 45 days of delivery for this $395 core charge to be refunded., +$395.00 - i stand corrected :) even cheaper in the end


Not sure about shipping and all but its 667.00 http://www.cp-e.com/products/mazdaspeed3-gen1/mzr-disi-23-hpfpump%E2%84%A2 and there is a core charge of 300 so you send in your pump and they update it for someone else to buy. It is the original pump they just update it to handle to load you need so no def not 800 maybe 400 once your core charge is returned, hope this helps

have you upgraded your fuel pump? i.e. have you ordered one of these pumps from cp-e?

First of all, it's $667 plus $395 core charge which you get back when you send your old pump in and they verify it is in working condition.

That is, however, if you can wait the couple months or more that'll it'll take for them to get the part in stock. I did not pull $800 out of my ass, it is what I paid. I believe Fobio at one point brought them in at $950 installed. You can probably get the internals to upgrade your own fuel pump for around $400.

you can use your $400 to buy a cp-e towplate, but it won't get you a cp-e HPFP

loki
10-04-2011, 07:16 PM
What will meth give you? a extra 20-30 hp? depending on your tune of course.

Meth, like the high pressure fuel pump upgrade, does not give you horsepower.

What they both do, is allow you to tune for more power in a safe manner. So you cannot put a number to it, his HP may not even go up once he starts spraying meth, especially if he's already pretty maxed out with the tune, but his engine will run alot safer.

Booostin
10-04-2011, 07:51 PM
Meth, like the high pressure fuel pump upgrade, does not give you horsepower.

What they both do, is allow you to tune for more power in a safe manner. So you cannot put a number to it, his HP may not even go up once he starts spraying meth, especially if he's already pretty maxed out with the tune, but his engine will run alot safer.

Doesnt it also help to reduce engine knock?

Fack_Dude
10-04-2011, 08:04 PM
Doesnt it also help to reduce engine knock?


The Methonal Injection will be a safe guard for the motor. Yes, methanol will give you extra hp by ramping up the boost and timing on the upper end. I'm just adding the meth as a safe guard for now and then we will commence with the tuning once my other goodies arrive. Anyway, we will see what happens on Friday when the kit is installed. This is certainly not a cheap mod to do.

Mr Wilson
10-04-2011, 08:08 PM
Got Jimmy on speed dial? ;)

Fack_Dude
10-04-2011, 08:10 PM
No, I have a pro to do this set up :huge smile I didn't want to take up Jimmy's valuable time on this....lol

Booostin
10-05-2011, 09:14 AM
The Methonal Injection will be a safe guard for the motor. Yes, methanol will give you extra hp by ramping up the boost and timing on the upper end. I'm just adding the meth as a safe guard for now and then we will commence with the tuning once my other goodies arrive. Anyway, we will see what happens on Friday when the kit is installed. This is certainly not a cheap mod to do.

What is the cost of the kit? Did you go with snow performance or aem? Cost of install? I know that some people put the reservoir in the trunk.

greardon
10-05-2011, 10:42 AM
have you upgraded your fuel pump? i.e. have you ordered one of these pumps from cp-e?

First of all, it's $667 plus $395 core charge which you get back when you send your old pump in and they verify it is in working condition.

That is, however, if you can wait the couple months or more that'll it'll take for them to get the part in stock. I did not pull $800 out of my ass, it is what I paid. I believe Fobio at one point brought them in at $950 installed. You can probably get the internals to upgrade your own fuel pump for around $400.

you can use your $400 to buy a cp-e towplate, but it won't get you a cp-e HPFP

Ok So i read it wrong , all it required was you to say was its the price plus core, instead whatever it was above you went on with, and thanks for the update since I can park my car for the winter I will just send mine to be upgraded

Fack_Dude
10-05-2011, 03:40 PM
What is the cost of the kit? Did you go with snow performance or aem? Cost of install? I know that some people put the reservoir in the trunk.

Snow stage 2 kit and your looking around 900.00 installed.