View Full Version : Forza 4: Endangered Species
jonjon72
10-03-2011, 08:46 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_4q2KjWG-9Q&feature=share
Forza 4 Demo on X Box Live today!!!!!!!!!!!!
Drozdy
10-03-2011, 08:51 PM
mmm cant wait!
Kiyomi
10-03-2011, 08:56 PM
wow, haha! :D lol wtf is up with ur gif jon... lolzzzz!
Takumi616
10-03-2011, 08:59 PM
:thumbsup
PCLoadLetter
10-03-2011, 09:24 PM
I'm going broke this Q4.
jonjon72
10-03-2011, 10:10 PM
I'm going broke this Q4.
Tell me about it.....all these games for the Xbox and PS3, plus all these new blu rays.
Mitchell3
10-03-2011, 11:32 PM
wow, haha! :D lol wtf is up with ur gif jon... lolzzzz!
Hahahaha hes got the best sigs/profile pics ever
I'm going broke this Q4.
+1, BF3, Forza 4, and Maybe cod and already have gears. :( cmon its always in the fall when I have no money
n00bMeiSter
10-04-2011, 12:39 AM
I just finished downloading this. Going to go play it! :D
Thrizzl3
10-04-2011, 12:40 AM
downloaded the demo but not many options to choose from besides a '70 cuda, 2011 STi or a Ferrari 458...
XTOTHEL
10-04-2011, 12:48 AM
narrated by jeremy!
schmat66
10-04-2011, 12:49 AM
cannnn nooooott waiiittt
boyracer
10-04-2011, 10:28 AM
narrated by jeremy!
Yes, I recognized his voice.
Booostin
10-04-2011, 11:39 AM
downloaded the demo but not many options to choose from besides a '70 cuda, 2011 STi or a Ferrari 458...
Ya but how is the gameplay!!!!!11
Thrizzl3
10-04-2011, 11:53 AM
Gameplay is epic winning
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
jonjon72
10-04-2011, 02:14 PM
downloaded the demo but not many options to choose from besides a '70 cuda, 2011 STi or a Ferrari 458...
Actually on the main screen, there is another option beside the free play. I drove the Zonda and M5 V10!!!
The sense of speed and graphics are amazing. So hyped for this game!
5_Alive
10-04-2011, 02:43 PM
I may finally give in and buy an Xbox just for this damn game.. I'm a PS3 fan at heart, and GT5 is great and all, but I want that "soul" feeling when playing a racing game, and from what I have played, Forza has it in bucketloads..
Kiyomi
10-04-2011, 02:48 PM
this just for xbox!???
n00bMeiSter
10-04-2011, 02:54 PM
Game play is great. Driving is much better in this game. Physics are better too. Sadly still no realistic damage (cosmetic-wise) when you smash into things :(
downloaded the demo but not many options to choose from besides a '70 cuda, 2011 STi or a Ferrari 458...
actually, it's a '70 cougar :P
you had your laptop in front of you while you played and you still got it wrong. FAIL
Thrizzl3
10-04-2011, 02:56 PM
actually, it's a '70 cougar :P
you had your laptop in front of you while you played and you still got it wrong. FAIL
hate all you want lol i still smoked you with my honda civic vs. your ferrari 458...FAIL!!!!!! LOL
The Wolf
10-04-2011, 03:03 PM
ugh I miss my 360 so much. Picked up a ps3 and gt5 and have been missing Forza since.
jonjon72
10-04-2011, 03:16 PM
this just for xbox!???
Just for xbox! woot
Game play is great. Driving is much better in this game. Physics are better too. Sadly still no realistic damage (cosmetic-wise) when you smash into things :(
actually, it's a '70 cougar :P
you had your laptop in front of you while you played and you still got it wrong. FAIL
Actually there is damage.....i hit the wall in the subie and in the replay showed the damage to the bumper and headlight.
n00bMeiSter
10-04-2011, 04:27 PM
Just for xbox! woot
Actually there is damage.....i hit the wall in the subie and in the replay showed the damage to the bumper and headlight.
Yeah, but it's not that much damage. I'm talking dynamic meshes. Think GTA 4.
Booostin
10-04-2011, 04:51 PM
Or how about when you do burnouts you should be able to blow your tires over time. Stuff like that would definitely add to the realism factor.
Mitchell3
10-04-2011, 04:52 PM
Agree damage isn't good. Better than GT5 though. First day GT5 came out we ran 200kmh into a wall head on and bent the grill a little.
Other than that, cant wait to start designing cars and driftin it up again!
n00bMeiSter
10-04-2011, 04:56 PM
Or how about when you do burnouts you should be able to blow your tires over time. Stuff like that would definitely add to the realism factor.
Yeah that too. GTA 4 even has that. So it's not like it would be hard for them to do, and it wouldn't make the game chug or anything. Plus, they do damage to clutch, tranny, engine, etc., fuel consumption too... So why not?
The Wolf
10-04-2011, 05:32 PM
Agree damage isn't good. Better than GT5 though. First day GT5 came out we ran 200kmh into a wall head on and bent the grill a little.
Other than that, cant wait to start designing cars and driftin it up again!
The damage on GT5 is progressive though... as your Experience Level goes up, so does the appearance of damage. A far cry from realistic though, for sure. Might have to pick up an xbox again...
Yeah that too. GTA 4 even has that. So it's not like it would be hard for them to do, and it wouldn't make the game chug or anything. Plus, they do damage to clutch, tranny, engine, etc., fuel consumption too... So why not?
I can't wait till someone jumps in with both feet and makes a game that will ONLY work with a peripheral driving console... shifter, wheel, clutch, etc. If you burn out your clutch on the last lap of Lemans, you're SOL
n00bMeiSter
10-04-2011, 05:34 PM
I can't wait till someone jumps in with both feet and makes a game that will ONLY work with a peripheral driving console... shifter, wheel, clutch, etc. If you burn out your clutch on the last lap of Lemans, you're SOL
OMG. That would be sooooo awesome.
Booostin
10-05-2011, 09:15 AM
I played the demo last night. The details on the cars are friggin amazing. It was epic... now I just need to go HD haha. Anyone try the Battlefield 3 BETA?
Slade
10-05-2011, 09:59 AM
Oh man I cannot wait to update my xbox and finally get back on live just for the damn demos out.
Isn't Forz4 suppose to incorporate the Kinect as well for looking beside you and stuff?
Mitchell3
10-05-2011, 11:07 AM
yeah, a mode where you can walk around the car.
and yeah you can look where you want when you drive. That would finally be something to get me to use cockpit view, im always hitting people beside me because i cant see them lol.
:P they put the warthog in the game, shoot other people off the track!
Oh man I cannot wait to update my xbox and finally get back on live just for the damn demos out.
Isn't Forz4 suppose to incorporate the Kinect as well for looking beside you and stuff?
jonjon72
10-05-2011, 11:25 AM
I'm going to see how people respond with Kinnect. If the feedback is positive and adds to the game play I may end up buying myself an early xmas present.
tweak_s
10-05-2011, 11:28 AM
Game looks good!
Doubt I'm gonna get it at launch though, too many good games coming out or games/blu-rays already out so no money! :(.. and I was talking to Phil the other day and I have Forza3 still in the wrapper, so figure I'm gonna go through some of that and wait a bit before I pick it up
bluntman
10-05-2011, 11:28 AM
I hope the Kinect integration is better than the PS Eye integration in GT5.
Slade
10-05-2011, 11:34 AM
I'm going to see how people respond with Kinnect. If the feedback is positive and adds to the game play I may end up buying myself an early xmas present.
I should be back online by Friday night, and if the kinect part is in the demo I will let you know for sure, this weekend is 100% xbox weekend.
Slade
10-05-2011, 02:33 PM
Went and downloaded the demo on one of the xbox's here at work and tried a race, seems good so far :)
n00bMeiSter
10-05-2011, 03:35 PM
Went and downloaded the demo on one of the xbox's here at work and tried a race, seems good so far :)
Just wait till you get home. 'specially if the peripherals work with it
SSmoked
10-05-2011, 03:42 PM
I'm going to see how people respond with Kinnect. If the feedback is positive and adds to the game play I may end up buying myself an early xmas present.
I have have kinect so ill let u know but i cant see it being that much fun. in cockpit mode with kinect on u turn your head in person so kinect sees that but u gotta keep ur eyes on the screen to see whats beside u. get what im saying here? i cant see it working to well.
forza4 is really really promising so far, love the detail the graffics and the car selection (cobalt ss/turbo finally :D). next week will be a good one since im on reading week lol. those midterms will have to wait.
jonjon72
10-05-2011, 04:08 PM
Thanks guys, looking forward to the Kinnect feedback!
BTW, when I was using the STI, a couple of the other cars racing were a 2011 Speed 3 and Genesis Coupe.
Thrizzl3
10-05-2011, 04:11 PM
Thanks guys, looking forward to the Kinnect feedback!
BTW, when I was using the STI, a couple of the other cars racing were a 2011 Speed 3 and Genesis Coupe.
6 days left!!!
n00bMeiSter
10-05-2011, 04:23 PM
I have have kinect so ill let u know but i cant see it being that much fun. in cockpit mode with kinect on u turn your head in person so kinect sees that but u gotta keep ur eyes on the screen to see whats beside u. get what im saying here? i cant see it working to well.
This is exactly what I was thinking. As long as you only have to turn your head a little ways in each direction (ie 5,10, maybe 15 degrees), then I can see it being okay, but still annoying.
Besides, who cares what is beside you, focus on the track ahead lol!
Slade
10-05-2011, 04:41 PM
This is exactly what I was thinking. As long as you only have to turn your head a little ways in each direction (ie 5,10, maybe 15 degrees), then I can see it being okay, but still annoying.
Besides, who cares what is beside you, focus on the track ahead lol!
As I was telling the guys at work, I don't need/use the brakes, that's what the other cars around me are for :)
n00bMeiSter
10-05-2011, 04:56 PM
As I was telling the guys at work, I don't need/use the brakes, that's what the other cars around me are for :)
hahahahaha
:like
makes the game more fun
Thrizzl3
10-05-2011, 05:52 PM
hahahahaha
:like
makes the game more fun
well when it comes to you..all you do is smash into the wall anyways...i think you're worst off tho :P
n00bMeiSter
10-05-2011, 05:55 PM
well when it comes to you..all you do is smash into the wall anyways...i think you're worst off tho :P
Lol, that's cuz there's not enough cars to smash into
SSmoked
10-05-2011, 06:00 PM
not sure if u guys noticed the tire smoke still sucks in this game. better than forza 3 but not nearly as good as gt5. i was drifiting the bmw m5 and wasnt liking the lack of smoke. btw drifting is soo much easier in this game not sure why.
Thrizzl3
10-05-2011, 06:01 PM
Lol, that's cuz there's not enough cars to smash into
i was the only car in front of you and yet you still took off my bumper...hmmmmm
n00bMeiSter
10-05-2011, 06:02 PM
i was the only car in front of you and yet you still took off my bumper...hmmmmm
I needed to slow down.
n00bMeiSter
10-05-2011, 06:03 PM
not sure if u guys noticed the tire smoke still sucks in this game. better than forza 3 but not nearly as good as gt5. i was drifiting the bmw m5 and wasnt liking the lack of smoke. btw drifting is soo much easier in this game not sure why.
Maybe it's just because the guys at cscs suck, but even when they are drifting there isn't always smoke.
Plus, smoke effects are very intense on the cpu/gpu. sometimes you have to forego them so the game doesn't chug.
standsideways
10-08-2011, 11:05 AM
Maybe it's just because the guys at cscs suck, but even when they are drifting there isn't always smoke.
Plus, smoke effects are very intense on the cpu/gpu. sometimes you have to forego them so the game doesn't chug.
I think its one of those things that is a trade off.
Ya we could have smoke that looks realistic but then we wouldent have the game now, it would be delayed like gt5 was for years.
I played gt5 VS FM4 demo last night and compared to fm3 the graphics are veryyy gran turismo like.
The controlling/balance of the cars still isnt the same between the two games, even with the same car on similar courses feels completely differet.
Funny how they are both "simulations" yet they feel like completely different games.
Bohizzle
10-08-2011, 09:08 PM
I think its one of those things that is a trade off.
Ya we could have smoke that looks realistic but then we wouldent have the game now, it would be delayed like gt5 was for years.
I played gt5 VS FM4 demo last night and compared to fm3 the graphics are veryyy gran turismo like.
The controlling/balance of the cars still isnt the same between the two games, even with the same car on similar courses feels completely differet.
Funny how they are both "simulations" yet they feel like completely different games.
Having played both, which would you say you like better?
I'm thinking of buying a 360 just for this game. I played GT5 for a while but was not very impressed with it.
Andrew
jonjon72
10-08-2011, 09:28 PM
Having played both, which would you say you like better?
I'm thinking of buying a 360 just for this game. I played GT5 for a while but was not very impressed with it.
Andrew
+1 on GT5
Bought the game and was so bored, I sold it within a week.
Thrizzl3
10-08-2011, 09:43 PM
3 days!!!! who ordered the limited edition anyways?
Bohizzle
10-08-2011, 09:54 PM
+1 on GT5
Bought the game and was so bored, I sold it within a week.
That being said, I loved GT 1-4. I felt as if GT5 was a step backward from GT4. My favourite was still GT 1 where you could "race modify" all of your cars!
Andrew
breakfasteatre
10-10-2011, 05:53 PM
preordered forza, picking up the microsoft wheel tonight. Im pumped!!!
Queue
10-10-2011, 09:41 PM
Me in my MS3 representing Mazda in the Bernese Alps in Forza 4....
http://i1112.photobucket.com/albums/k486/Queued/QMS31Forza.jpg
http://i1112.photobucket.com/albums/k486/Queued/QMS32Forza.jpg
http://i1112.photobucket.com/albums/k486/Queued/QMS33Forza.jpg
And one of me drifting in my busted GT-R...lol
http://i1112.photobucket.com/albums/k486/Queued/QDriftForza.jpg
Mitchell3
10-10-2011, 10:16 PM
You have it already? lol
Queue
10-10-2011, 10:27 PM
You have it already? lol
Yessirr... had it last week (from a promotional venture), but only had the opportunity to try it out today. It's fun, and seems much easier than traditional sim racers. Good for newbies to the racing game genres!
Thrizzl3
10-10-2011, 10:48 PM
wtf Queue!!!! LOL i gotta play wednesday :(
jonjon72
10-10-2011, 10:52 PM
1 more day......hopefully work won't be too crazy that I actually get some time with the game tomorrow.
Queue
10-10-2011, 10:58 PM
Me DRIFTING in my MS3 in Fujimi Kaido, japan.... jokes
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mK_tYx1KdZc
Just got my Limited edition delivered to work. Can't wait to get home and fire it up.
London3
10-11-2011, 11:15 AM
Lol cant wait to get out of the class im currently in, hightail it to BestBuy, and fire it up :D
bluntman
10-12-2011, 08:08 AM
After reading a post in RFD about the RCSS having the Forza4 bundle with the Microsoft Speed Wheel for $80, I headed to RCSS yesterday after work and picked one up.
Mitchell3
10-12-2011, 09:28 AM
Lots of fun! looks so much better too.
http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z320/theconjuedsubjugator/th_GetPhotoashx.jpg (http://s188.photobucket.com/albums/z320/theconjuedsubjugator/?action=view¤t=GetPhotoashx.jpg)
http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z320/theconjuedsubjugator/th_GetPhoto2ashx.jpg (http://s188.photobucket.com/albums/z320/theconjuedsubjugator/?action=view¤t=GetPhoto2ashx.jpg)
Just about fell out of my chair when I saw they added copper red :D
http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z320/theconjuedsubjugator/th_GetPhoto3ashx.jpg (http://s188.photobucket.com/albums/z320/theconjuedsubjugator/?action=view¤t=GetPhoto3ashx.jpg)
Even the body parts are from real life for the 3's. Rockin Autoexe :)
jonjon72
10-12-2011, 12:48 PM
Got home late and managed to get in an hour of Forza.......love it. Tonight I will prolly get a few more hours in. Blackberry down FTW!!!!!
hit26k
10-12-2011, 01:15 PM
Got home late and managed to get in an hour of Forza.......love it. Tonight I will prolly get a few more hours in. Blackberry down FTW!!!!!
Jon, have you been in to the autovista yet? Bought the regular version and I don't have Clarkson speaking... :(
n00bMeiSter
10-12-2011, 01:16 PM
After reading a post in RFD about the RCSS having the Forza4 bundle with the Microsoft Speed Wheel for $80, I headed to RCSS yesterday after work and picked one up.
RCSS?
Does the speed wheel come with a stand of any sorts?
STeeLy
10-12-2011, 01:42 PM
RCSS?
Does the speed wheel come with a stand of any sorts?
Real Canadian Superstore
bluntman
10-12-2011, 01:49 PM
RCSS?
Does the speed wheel come with a stand of any sorts?
No stand with the Speed Wheel. I was hoping that it would use the rechargeable battery packs that the gamepads use, but instead it uses two AA batteries. No bumper buttons either, gear shifting is done by the up and down directional buttons.
breakfasteatre
10-12-2011, 02:28 PM
mcrrcw is my screenname. racers add me!
schmat66
10-12-2011, 04:15 PM
i want my basement finished so i can hoook up my bboooxx and buy thisssss :(
m_bisson
10-12-2011, 04:42 PM
Jon, have you been in to the autovista yet? Bought the regular version and I don't have Clarkson speaking... :(
spin around to the front of the car. click A and he'll do a dialogue about the car. I have the regular version too and it's all there ;)
jonjon72
10-12-2011, 04:53 PM
spin around to the front of the car. click A and he'll do a dialogue about the car. I have the regular version too and it's all there ;)
Actually Hitesh won't hear a thing.........Clarkson doesn't like him! :P
Seriously, M Bisson is 100% correct. He can be heard on all versions so your not missing out, except on some cars and tracks!
hit26k
10-12-2011, 05:12 PM
spin around to the front of the car. click A and he'll do a dialogue about the car. I have the regular version too and it's all there ;)
Actually Hitesh won't hear a thing.........Clarkson doesn't like him! :P
Seriously, M Bisson is 100% correct. He can be heard on all versions so your not missing out, except on some cars and tracks!
Will give it another go tonight. Thanks guys!
standsideways
10-12-2011, 06:11 PM
http://tapatalk.com/mu/4ac6098a-1066-b597.jpg
My RWD speed3 sitting pretty lol :p
STeeLy
10-12-2011, 07:16 PM
So how hard is the Top Gear test track?
standsideways
10-12-2011, 07:20 PM
So how hard is the Top Gear test track?
Its not hard at all..
If anything its easier on forza than on gt5
And you have a much bigger "map" on forza than on gt5, allowing you to actually go off course without hitting an imaginary wall...
The graphics on the test track look better on forza than gt5 IMO
standsideways
10-13-2011, 04:14 PM
http://tapatalk.com/mu/4ac609df-4673-de2d.jpg
My xbl gamertag is the same as my username, if anyone wants to drift,drag, or just do some laps!
Thrizzl3
10-14-2011, 12:13 AM
i'm getting cars up the ass and I'm only level 6....
jonjon72
10-14-2011, 12:19 AM
This game is so addictive.......worth every penny!!!
Lovin it so far, head tracking works pretty well too. It is especially cool with the in car view.
The AI is much more of a challenge in this one compared to 3 but in a good way so far. I haven't thrown a controller yet but we'll see how I feel after a couple months.
Gamertag is JSI11 if anyone wants to race.
jonjon72
10-14-2011, 10:04 AM
I noticed that the Kinect unit has dropped down to $99. May end up picking one up this weekend.
Thrizzl3
10-14-2011, 10:32 AM
racing my speed 3 right now and its faster than an sti...woohoo
BTW, BB had a special: Kinect + 4GB slim console + $100 gift card for $299. If you bought it online, they would simply discount the $100 at check out.
jonjon72
10-14-2011, 11:54 AM
racing my speed 3 right now and its faster than an sti...woohoo
So you are basically running Fabio's car! :chuckle
Thrizzl3
10-14-2011, 12:05 PM
just an FYI. if you reach car level 6 you get 100% off performance parts ;) both my gen 1 and gen 2 speeds as well as my mazda 2 were modded free :D winning!
jonjon72
10-14-2011, 02:10 PM
This is how some people got a free copy of Forza 4!
http://jalopnik.com/5849616/walmart-ships-free-forza-4-copies-after-whiffing-limited-edition
hit26k
10-14-2011, 10:59 PM
http://i884.photobucket.com/albums/ac48/hit26k/Forza_4/black_speed3.jpg
STeeLy
10-14-2011, 11:03 PM
just an FYI. if you reach car level 6 you get 100% off performance parts ;) both my gen 1 and gen 2 speeds as well as my mazda 2 were modded free :D winning!
They added a level 6? LOL
Thrizzl3
10-14-2011, 11:25 PM
They added a level 6? LOL
level goes higher than 6. i think 15 or 20
STeeLy
10-14-2011, 11:31 PM
level goes higher than 6. i think 15 or 20
We're talking about car levels right? Not player levels?
Thrizzl3
10-14-2011, 11:38 PM
We're talking about car levels right? Not player levels?
yep car levels. driver level is different
n00bMeiSter
10-15-2011, 12:30 AM
So whats the word on using kinect with forza 4? Any good?
Thrizzl3
10-15-2011, 12:43 AM
omg forza soccer is effing fun
STeeLy
10-15-2011, 12:47 AM
Seriously, somebody needs to make a game with top gear challenges. Forza made the first step with the soccer.
PCLoadLetter
10-15-2011, 01:52 AM
Seriously, somebody needs to make a game with top gear challenges. Forza made the first step with the soccer.
I love the bowling levels. Hit as many pins as you can on the track :D
STeeLy
10-15-2011, 01:53 AM
I love the bowling levels. Hit as many pins as you can on the track :D
I don't mind the races between a car and something else.
Or hell when they went to germany and the double decker car race. That'd be fun
Thrizzl3
10-15-2011, 01:53 PM
back fire flames FTW!!
http://i455.photobucket.com/albums/qq273/guranteed_justice/flame5.jpg
http://i455.photobucket.com/albums/qq273/guranteed_justice/flame6.jpg
http://i455.photobucket.com/albums/qq273/guranteed_justice/flame10.jpg
http://i455.photobucket.com/albums/qq273/guranteed_justice/flame11.jpg
http://i455.photobucket.com/albums/qq273/guranteed_justice/flame8.jpg
http://i455.photobucket.com/albums/qq273/guranteed_justice/flame9.jpg
hit26k
10-15-2011, 03:58 PM
I'm liking this game more and more :D
http://i884.photobucket.com/albums/ac48/hit26k/Forza_4/Forza3.jpg
http://i884.photobucket.com/albums/ac48/hit26k/Forza_4/Forza5.jpg
http://i884.photobucket.com/albums/ac48/hit26k/Forza_4/Forza7.jpg
Mitchell3
10-15-2011, 09:08 PM
back fire flames FTW!!
howd you take pictures of that? every time I try it happens too quickly before I can pause :(
Mo Pix:
http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z320/theconjuedsubjugator/Americanashx.jpg
http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z320/theconjuedsubjugator/bmwashx.jpg
Thrizzl3
10-16-2011, 01:49 AM
howd you take pictures of that? every time I try it happens too quickly before I can pause :(
pretty much i had to anticipate when the flame would come out. example. i would red line first gear to see if any back fires would occur if not i would go to the 2nd gear and do the same thing. i would repeat the steps until the desired back fire comes :D takes practice tho..for each car it took about 5 mins to get it right.
as seen here..
http://i455.photobucket.com/albums/qq273/guranteed_justice/flame10-1.jpg
http://i455.photobucket.com/albums/qq273/guranteed_justice/flame13.jpg
http://i455.photobucket.com/albums/qq273/guranteed_justice/flame14.jpg
and testing out motion capture
http://i455.photobucket.com/albums/qq273/guranteed_justice/r8.jpg
SSmoked
10-16-2011, 01:26 PM
So whats the word on using kinect with forza 4? Any good?
It works believe it or not. very well if i may ad. the car is on autopilot. it stops and goes according to the track line. all u have to do is steer. it reads it really well. i cant see it being used long tho lol my arms were toast after 5 laps @ tskuba. head tracking sucks, i couldnt get it to work at all. plus sitting there with an invisable steering wheel pretending to drive makes u look silly.
Mitchell3
10-16-2011, 01:31 PM
Thanks, I finally got it yesterday after like 60 tries. I just shifted and paused at the same time and you eventually get it :P way easier than me trying to rev the engine to do it.
Wall ride 6895 pts
http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z320/theconjuedsubjugator/wallrideashx.jpg
jonjon72
10-16-2011, 01:36 PM
Wall ride 6895 pts
http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z320/theconjuedsubjugator/wallrideashx.jpg
ROFL!!!!!
n00bMeiSter
10-16-2011, 05:48 PM
It works believe it or not. very well if i may ad. the car is on autopilot. it stops and goes according to the track line. all u have to do is steer. it reads it really well. i cant see it being used long tho lol my arms were toast after 5 laps @ tskuba. head tracking sucks, i couldnt get it to work at all. plus sitting there with an invisable steering wheel pretending to drive makes u look silly.
Yeah, I didn't think the head tracking would work very well. Neat idea though
sounds like you'll have to use a one of those steering wheel things from mario kart wii as a prop lol
Booostin
10-16-2011, 06:07 PM
Which level is everyone on? I am on 17. Some dude was on 43 already ! lol
Who here uses simulation driving. I find it is alot easier to spin out in this mode as opposed to normal mode.
And yes definitely love the fact that you can do up the cars for free once you reach a certain level.
n00bMeiSter
10-16-2011, 06:11 PM
Which level is everyone on? I am on 17. Some dude was on 43 already ! lol
Who here uses simulation driving. I find it is alot easier to spin out in this mode as opposed to normal mode.
And yes definitely love the fact that you can do up the cars for free once you reach a certain level.
Trust me, learn to drive in this mode and you'll have soo much more fun when you get the hang of it.
Turn off abs, traction, all that crap (having the racing line on is fine, helps you learn the tracks easily imo), and you'll have lots more fun.
Thrizzl3
10-16-2011, 06:33 PM
Which level is everyone on? I am on 17. Some dude was on 43 already ! lol
Who here uses simulation driving. I find it is alot easier to spin out in this mode as opposed to normal mode.
And yes definitely love the fact that you can do up the cars for free once you reach a certain level.
Level 27 now and simulation steering . Already hit 1 million credits woohoo
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London3
10-16-2011, 06:41 PM
I still have traction control on...scared to take it off lol. Everything else (except turn lines) are off for me and loving how it feels now. Im scared that because im used to this, once i turn trac off ill be spinning nonstop lol
n00bMeiSter
10-16-2011, 08:45 PM
I still have traction control on...scared to take it off lol. Everything else (except turn lines) are off for me and loving how it feels now. Im scared that because im used to this, once i turn trac off ill be spinning nonstop lol
With traction and stuff off, it's really all about learning how to manage your throttle. Knowing when to let off the gas or when to pour more on. It's tricky at first, but sooo much fun when you get the hang of it.
Booostin
10-16-2011, 08:48 PM
Trust me, learn to drive in this mode and you'll have soo much more fun when you get the hang of it.
Turn off abs, traction, all that crap (having the racing line on is fine, helps you learn the tracks easily imo), and you'll have lots more fun.
Yeah thats what I have. The only thing I have on is the racing lines.
With traction and stuff off, it's really all about learning how to manage your throttle. Knowing when to let off the gas or when to pour more on. It's tricky at first, but sooo much fun when you get the hang of it.
Agreed... I was racing a bunch of 4WD cars with a 500 HP supra without traction control lol. It was a bitch to keep on the track but so much fun.
n00bMeiSter
10-16-2011, 09:04 PM
Yeah thats what I have. The only thing I have on is the racing lines.
Agreed... I was racing a bunch of 4WD cars with a 500 HP supra without traction control lol. It was a bitch to keep on the track but so much fun.
I set my racing line to braking only, having the full line I find I spend too much energy trying to stay perfectly on it, instead of focusing on the race. Personally, I only use the braking portions to help me learn the limits of the car (ie when the line is full red can I hold the corner or do I need to slow down until it starts to turn yellow, etc).
Yeah, the first time I tried the top secret supra in FM3 was in a drag race against Phil. When the light went green, just spun in circles lol. Took a lot to learn how to tame that beast.
Thrizzl3
10-17-2011, 01:23 AM
I set my racing line to braking only, having the full line I find I spend too much energy trying to stay perfectly on it, instead of focusing on the race. Personally, I only use the braking portions to help me learn the limits of the car (ie when the line is full red can I hold the corner or do I need to slow down until it starts to turn yellow, etc).
Yeah, the first time I tried the top secret supra in FM3 was in a drag race against Phil. When the light went green, just spun in circles lol. Took a lot to learn how to tame that beast.
LMAO! and that still doesn't stop you from ramming other cars....
Mitchell3
10-17-2011, 01:57 AM
With traction and stuff off, it's really all about learning how to manage your throttle. Knowing when to let off the gas or when to pour more on. It's tricky at first, but sooo much fun when you get the hang of it.
Totally agree! Also makes the races closer because you no longer have the unfair advantage on turns.
Any drifters among us? :chuckle I have a ton of drift cars now.
One of many..:
http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z320/theconjuedsubjugator/Backfireashx.jpg
Thrizzl3
10-17-2011, 01:58 AM
random post..
fastest speed attained on le mans old mulsanne track....268 MPH by a ferrari scuderia with an enzo engine swap coupled with twin turbo chargers and all sorts of bells and whistles. cost me $0. :D
STeeLy
10-17-2011, 02:16 AM
I should really stop coming into this thread.
Reading all these posts just make me want to go get the game and play.
Booostin
10-17-2011, 08:12 AM
random post..
fastest speed attained on le mans old mulsanne track....268 MPH by a ferrari scuderia with an enzo engine swap coupled with twin turbo chargers and all sorts of bells and whistles. cost me $0. :D
Engine swaps are the only things that arent free for me. WTH
SSmoked
10-17-2011, 09:26 AM
Any drifters among us? :chuckle I have a ton of drift cars now.
One of many..:
http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z320/theconjuedsubjugator/Backfireashx.jpg
Yupp. me and phil were drifting yesterday. Cept Phil isnt as good as he used to be back in the FM3 days. i however am getting into the swing of it again.
The key to drifting half decent. DONT USE SIMULATION STEERING. its asom in normal racing but in drift it sucks, if those front tires get a good grip while counter steering helloooo wall...lol
I have a handfull of drift cars that i use. mostly nissans (s13,14,s15) and a gen4 SS. i mostly use my S14 tho can get the angle and speed very nice on that. tuned it perfectly for myself.
http://i384.photobucket.com/albums/oo285/D0n0fri0/GetPhoto-1.jpg
http://i384.photobucket.com/albums/oo285/D0n0fri0/GetPhoto-2.jpg
Thrizzl3
10-17-2011, 10:17 AM
Engine swaps are the only things that arent free for me. WTH
oh yah..i lied it cost me $15k for the motor and $3k for the turbos so around $19k for the swap lol
and joe...i'll go back to normal and see how it is...i shall make a return to the drift crew :P
Booostin
10-17-2011, 10:40 AM
oh yah..i lied it cost me $15k for the motor and $3k for the turbos so around $19k for the swap lol
and joe...i'll go back to normal and see how it is...i shall make a return to the drift crew :P
You sure the Veyron aint faster with mods?
http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6165/6236015829_d900cabfa1_z.jpg
Thrizzl3
10-17-2011, 10:43 AM
it could be but this ferrari picks up speed very quickly lol
Mitchell3
10-17-2011, 12:18 PM
Yupp. me and phil were drifting yesterday. Cept Phil isnt as good as he used to be back in the FM3 days. i however am getting into the swing of it again.
The key to drifting half decent. DONT USE SIMULATION STEERING. its asom in normal racing but in drift it sucks, if those front tires get a good grip while counter steering helloooo wall...lol
I have a handfull of drift cars that i use. mostly nissans (s13,14,s15) and a gen4 SS. i mostly use my S14 tho can get the angle and speed very nice on that. tuned it perfectly for myself.
Im not really good either, really I just powerslide lol. after practice it gets so easy you just look like a pro but not really haha. its good when we attempt drifting really close since we can concentrate on minimizing distance since the driftings 2nd nature now.. My friend found out about sim steering last night after he got pissed at all his cars for counter steering into the wall. Amazed he did as good as he did for that long.
breakfasteatre
10-17-2011, 12:37 PM
im like level 43 heh. i played all weekend
n00bMeiSter
10-17-2011, 01:15 PM
Yupp. me and phil were drifting yesterday. Cept Phil isnt as good as he used to be back in the FM3 days. i however am getting into the swing of it again.
The key to drifting half decent. DONT USE SIMULATION STEERING. its asom in normal racing but in drift it sucks, if those front tires get a good grip while counter steering helloooo wall...lol
So if we shouldn't use simulation steering then what should we use? assisted?
SSmoked
10-17-2011, 01:45 PM
^ there's 3 steering settings. Assisted, normal, and simulation. I use normal for drifting and simulation for everything else. I find normal not to be so twitchy making it better for drift.
SSmoked
10-19-2011, 12:32 AM
Well remember when i said Phil wasnt good yet at drifitng... yeah hes back, leading the pack like a boss
http://i384.photobucket.com/albums/oo285/D0n0fri0/GetPhoto-4.jpg
Jelly?
http://i384.photobucket.com/albums/oo285/D0n0fri0/GetPhoto-5.jpg
http://i384.photobucket.com/albums/oo285/D0n0fri0/GetPhoto-3.jpg
And the beast. why i didnt use it tonight is beyond me
http://i384.photobucket.com/albums/oo285/D0n0fri0/GetPhoto-6.jpg
Thrizzl3
10-19-2011, 01:24 AM
oh yea I'm back!
http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6172/6259165895_c03ef2d174.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/68826683@N07/6259165895/)
Thrizzl3
10-19-2011, 05:13 PM
C63 anyone?
http://i455.photobucket.com/albums/qq273/guranteed_justice/adi.jpg
PCLoadLetter
10-19-2011, 09:33 PM
The drifting is so much fun, OMG. :D :D :D
I'm loving Rivals mode too.
Mitchell3
10-19-2011, 09:49 PM
The drifting is so much fun, OMG. :D :D :D
I'm loving Rivals mode too.
Im in the top 300 or 400 overall for open time trials :D:D my top gear times are pretty good too :).
SSmoked
10-20-2011, 06:56 PM
The drifting is so much fun, OMG. :D :D :D
I'm loving Rivals mode too.
HAHAHA well aware u keep challenging me. i get a million msgs everytime u post a new time.theres a reason my posted times are low... lets just say easy money :P
PCLoadLetter
10-20-2011, 07:31 PM
HAHAHA well aware u keep challenging me. i get a million msgs everytime u post a new time.theres a reason my posted times are low... lets just say easy money :P
LOL, I keep seeing your name as my rival. Gotta challenge!
Also, I took Phil's car for a spin. I hope he doesn't notice the scratches and broken tail light:
http://i.imgur.com/YIuwO.jpg
Thrizzl3
10-20-2011, 07:34 PM
WOW :( my poor 240
PCLoadLetter
10-20-2011, 07:36 PM
WOW :( my poor 240
She handles well.
Sorry about the scratches, they'll buff right out.
Thrizzl3
10-20-2011, 07:50 PM
i went with another benz...
http://i455.photobucket.com/albums/qq273/guranteed_justice/mb1.jpg
http://i455.photobucket.com/albums/qq273/guranteed_justice/mb2.jpg
Mitchell3
10-20-2011, 07:51 PM
^ I use that for my just for fun drift car lol. I couldnt stand that painted grill though!
Thrizzl3
10-20-2011, 08:12 PM
i am about to try an drift it...wish me luck haha
edit: 10 laps...134k drift points....
hit26k
10-23-2011, 04:26 PM
MOAR PICTARS!!!
http://i884.photobucket.com/albums/ac48/hit26k/Forza_4/Forza17.jpg
http://i884.photobucket.com/albums/ac48/hit26k/Forza_4/Forza13.jpg
http://i884.photobucket.com/albums/ac48/hit26k/Forza_4/Forza14.jpg
http://i884.photobucket.com/albums/ac48/hit26k/Forza_4/Forza11.jpg
http://i884.photobucket.com/albums/ac48/hit26k/Forza_4/Forza16.jpg
http://i884.photobucket.com/albums/ac48/hit26k/Forza_4/Forza21.jpg
Thrizzl3
10-23-2011, 06:03 PM
http://i455.photobucket.com/albums/qq273/guranteed_justice/mb3.jpg
http://i455.photobucket.com/albums/qq273/guranteed_justice/veyronss2.jpg
http://i455.photobucket.com/albums/qq273/guranteed_justice/veyronss.jpg
http://i455.photobucket.com/albums/qq273/guranteed_justice/m51.jpg
http://i455.photobucket.com/albums/qq273/guranteed_justice/m52.jpg
Thrizzl3
10-23-2011, 07:32 PM
well i'm at level 50 now but i just found out there is 100 more levels that complete :( wtfffff
Thrizzl3
10-24-2011, 12:15 PM
also..if you wondered what forza soccer is like...
http://i455.photobucket.com/albums/qq273/guranteed_justice/soccer3.jpg
http://i455.photobucket.com/albums/qq273/guranteed_justice/soccer2.jpg
http://i455.photobucket.com/albums/qq273/guranteed_justice/yasoccer.jpg
hours of fun...guranteed
canada man
10-24-2011, 12:21 PM
phillip stop playing video games....you have responsibilities now!
Booostin
10-24-2011, 12:25 PM
phillip stop playing video games....you have responsibilities now!
forza being one of them lol
hit26k
10-24-2011, 12:56 PM
phillip stop playing video games....you have responsibilities now!
Cool story bro.
canada man
10-24-2011, 01:04 PM
Cool story bro.
wasnt a story bro.....good try though :getout
hit26k
10-24-2011, 01:14 PM
wasnt a story bro.....good try though :getout
:thumbsup
Mitchell3
10-24-2011, 02:35 PM
lol had to do it.. I dont know about toronto but I see more 300's with insane chrome wheels and angel eyes than I see stock ones here in KW.
http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z320/theconjuedsubjugator/300ashx.jpg
schmat66
10-24-2011, 03:49 PM
i love 300s like that. just saying
hit26k
10-24-2011, 04:20 PM
LMAO! Looks exactly like the one I see around Brampton. :s
schmat66
10-25-2011, 09:50 AM
finally got it :D
#whatsociallife?
Booostin
10-25-2011, 10:08 AM
finally got it :D
#whatsociallife?
I find that it comes in waves. I will want to play it really badly then I will get sick of it but want to play again a hour later lol
schmat66
10-25-2011, 10:46 AM
looool, im used to it from forza3, spend hours just tuning a car -_-
Fobio
10-25-2011, 11:38 PM
ok...I've picked up an Xbox just for this. Still got the PS3/GT5, but I felt the need to chk out Forza 4....I'mm looking to pick-up a copy in the next day or two.
Any opinions about the Limited Edition vs. the standard edition? Are the extra cars worth $20? I'm leaning towards that at this point.
I'm not well-versed in Xbox-LIVE or the Auction House action...and my 20gb XBOX doesn't have wireless, so playing online or buying cars online isn't really a priority.
Thrizzl3
10-26-2011, 12:07 AM
To get the extra perks from the limited edition they will have to be downloaded. But since your not connecting it to wifi your better off just getting the basic version.
Fobio
10-26-2011, 12:13 AM
To get the extra perks from the limited edition they will have to be downloaded. But since your not connecting it to wifi your better off just getting the basic version.
thanks...good to know! hmmm...maybe I can connect one time?...fack...I should look into setting a newLive account with the used Xbox?
Thrizzl3
10-26-2011, 12:32 AM
thanks...good to know! hmmm...maybe I can connect one time?...fack...I should look into setting a newLive account with the used Xbox?
well xbox live is $60 for the whole year..isn't that bad. although futureshop/bestbuy have their promotion where they sell it off for $39.99 but by the time some people realize it they are already sold out :(. you can get the silver membership but i have no clue if you can download content with that...for the internet connection you can get a wireless adapter. i have original xbox and i bought it with the adapter..if you need one let me know..i can give you mine. i have a ethernet cable running into my room too :D
STeeLy
10-26-2011, 01:04 AM
you can get the silver membership but i have no clue if you can download content with that
You can download content but you can't play online.
Fobio
10-26-2011, 01:05 AM
well xbox live is $60 for the whole year..isn't that bad. although futureshop/bestbuy have their promotion where they sell it off for $39.99 but by the time some people realize it they are already sold out :(. you can get the silver membership but i have no clue if you can download content with that...for the internet connection you can get a wireless adapter. i have original xbox and i bought it with the adapter..if you need one let me know..i can give you mine. i have a ethernet cable running into my room too :D
Thanks for the offer Phil...let me have some time to look into setting it up first. I might end up getting a wireless bridge for my living room.
You can download content but you can't play online.
Thanks.
Booostin
10-26-2011, 08:26 AM
Im sorry but GT5 aint got nothing on Forza
schmat66
10-26-2011, 11:00 AM
schmat66 - addd meeeeee im race alonesss
Booostin
10-26-2011, 11:05 AM
schmat66 - addd meeeeee im race alonesss
Phil we need to show him how forza soccer is done with the hummer and fiats
Thrizzl3
10-26-2011, 11:24 AM
Phil we need to show him how forza soccer is done with the hummer and fiats
if your WRX got destroyed by my hummer hahahahahahah just imagine a fiat LMAO!
Fobio
10-26-2011, 11:37 AM
pls indulge me and hold my hand through my XBOX360 newbness (bear with me...I used to hack original XBOX's but never kept up with the 360)...
the 20GB (white) that I got has HDMI and the regular ginormous plug for audio...you can't use both together. The audio.component plug is too plug to allow the HDMI to be plugged in together. I've ghetto'd it right now but I want a more permanent solution...should I just ebay an adaptor for the audio plug?
Booostin
10-26-2011, 11:42 AM
if your WRX got destroyed by my hummer hahahahahahah just imagine a fiat LMAO!
LOL that was too funny... riding walls like a boss lol
Thrizzl3
10-26-2011, 11:50 AM
pls indulge me and hold my hand through my XBOX360 newbness (bear with me...I used to hack original XBOX's but never kept up with the 360)...
the 20GB (white) that I got has HDMI and the regular ginormous plug for audio...you can't use both together. The audio.component plug is too plug to allow the HDMI to be plugged in together. I've ghetto'd it right now but I want a more permanent solution...should I just ebay an adaptor for the audio plug?
doesn't the HDMI include sound? i'm pretty sure it does.
Fobio
10-26-2011, 12:18 PM
doesn't the HDMI include sound? i'm pretty sure it does.
I don't a HDMI receiver...so I have to use both sets of cables to get sound...it'sworking now, but it's not the way I'd likeit to be...
breakfasteatre
10-26-2011, 12:24 PM
your best bet might be to just use thr component wire set up. it has an optical cable jack on the plug. im pretty sure. you wont be loosing much resolution. i never see any club members online. what gives?
for reference: mcrrcw = breakfasteatre
Thrizzl3
10-26-2011, 12:25 PM
your best bet might be to just use thr component wire set up. it has an optical cable jack on the plug. im pretty sure. you wont be loosing much resolution. i never see any club members online. what gives?
for reference: mcrrcw = breakfasteatre
i'm always online...then again i don't have you on my friends list..i'll get right on that.
Fobio
10-26-2011, 12:32 PM
your best bet might be to just use thr component wire set up. it has an optical cable jack on the plug. im pretty sure. you wont be loosing much resolution. i never see any club members online. what gives?
for reference: mcrrcw = breakfasteatre
I get crazy tearing even on the start menu when using component cables...I also have my TV set to a mode that doesn't do compensation (digital input only).
dead_cactus
11-03-2011, 01:29 PM
deadcactus83
ParsM3GT
11-07-2011, 09:27 AM
gamertag: W0LV3RINE420 the O is a zero.
add me please
stevenma188
11-11-2011, 03:02 PM
How does Forza4 compare to 3? Lots of improvement or not so much?
Thrizzl3
11-11-2011, 04:07 PM
How does Forza4 compare to 3? Lots of improvement or not so much?
controls are still the same. graphics wise there are some improvements as well as the sounds of the cars especially when modding them. In Career mode making money is hella easy. lol you can be a millionaire by level 10 or 12...
Booostin
11-11-2011, 04:15 PM
controls are still the same. graphics wise there are some improvements as well as the sounds of the cars especially when modding them. In Career mode making money is hella easy. lol you can be a millionaire by level 10 or 12...
Or have Phil add you to the car club and just use his cars lol
Booostin
11-30-2011, 09:19 PM
RX-8 is by far the best shot in that video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=nSLWQCARPKQ#!\
Mitchell3
11-30-2011, 10:29 PM
^:( ugh i just turned off my xbox now i wanna play forza loool.
schmat66
12-14-2011, 01:00 AM
finally can add some pics
http://forzamotorsport.net/Handlers/GetPhoto.ashx?id=2064204&full=true
http://forzamotorsport.net/Handlers/GetPhoto.ashx?id=2195107&full=true
http://forzamotorsport.net/Handlers/GetPhoto.ashx?id=2195000&full=true
Thrizzl3
12-14-2011, 01:24 AM
hmm i'll share more
http://i455.photobucket.com/albums/qq273/guranteed_justice/m3.jpg
http://i455.photobucket.com/albums/qq273/guranteed_justice/m3c.jpg
http://i455.photobucket.com/albums/qq273/guranteed_justice/drift1-1.jpg
http://i455.photobucket.com/albums/qq273/guranteed_justice/subie.jpg
Booostin
12-14-2011, 08:07 AM
Phil, how do you upload them from the xbox to here?
Thrizzl3
12-14-2011, 09:40 AM
photobucket
schmat66
12-14-2011, 04:11 PM
aww yaa
http://forzamotorsport.net/Handlers/GetPhoto.ashx?id=4711043&full=true
http://forzamotorsport.net/Handlers/GetPhoto.ashx?id=4711022&full=true
http://forzamotorsport.net/Handlers/GetPhoto.ashx?id=4711069&full=true
deeeep dishhh
http://forzamotorsport.net/Handlers/GetPhoto.ashx?id=4711120&full=true
http://forzamotorsport.net/Handlers/GetPhoto.ashx?id=4711112&full=true
2 wheeelin
http://forzamotorsport.net/Handlers/GetPhoto.ashx?id=4711102&full=true
built for a friend
http://forzamotorsport.net/Handlers/GetPhoto.ashx?id=4711081&full=true
http://forzamotorsport.net/Handlers/GetPhoto.ashx?id=4711136&full=true
schmat66
12-14-2011, 04:12 PM
23'sssss
http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/381170_10150438817607444_503837443_8651846_1461822 89_n.jpg
Booostin
12-14-2011, 04:39 PM
photobucket
You really like blue cars eh lol
Mitchell3
12-14-2011, 05:03 PM
:( damn exams, im starting to miss this game!
http://forzamotorsport.net/Handlers/GetPhoto.ashx?id=3070968&full=true
http://forzamotorsport.net/Handlers/GetPhoto.ashx?id=1133949&full=true
ParsM3GT
12-15-2011, 09:12 AM
photobucket
So how do you get it from your xbox to photobucket?
Booostin
12-15-2011, 09:25 AM
So how do you get it from your xbox to photobucket?
That is what I wanted to know originally lol.. and I use imageshack not photobucket
Rob23
12-15-2011, 09:35 AM
if you use your xbox wireless then you can send pics/movies to and from your pc to your xbox.
ParsM3GT
12-15-2011, 09:41 AM
if you use your xbox wireless then you can send pics/movies to and from your pc to your xbox.
Ok thanks. I will try that out.
Rob23
12-15-2011, 09:42 AM
ive never actually tried it, i don't own a pc but my friend does it all the time.
schmat66
12-15-2011, 01:20 PM
forzamotorsports.com
Thrizzl3
12-15-2011, 03:59 PM
So how do you get it from your xbox to photobucket?
That is what I wanted to know originally lol.. and I use imageshack not photobucket
forzamotorsports.com
www.forzamotorsport.net. it uses your Microsoft email account you use when you sign in to xbox live.
schmat66
12-17-2011, 11:58 AM
sitting pretty
http://forzamotorsport.net/Handlers/GetPhoto.ashx?id=4789399&full=true
had some fun
http://forzamotorsport.net/Handlers/GetPhoto.ashx?id=4789760&full=true
jdm lean? in a mustang?
http://forzamotorsport.net/Handlers/GetPhoto.ashx?id=4790457&full=true
just practicing hard
http://forzamotorsport.net/Handlers/GetPhoto.ashx?id=4791087&full=true
when you drive hard.. it hurts.. driving home after a long drift practice :)
http://forzamotorsport.net/Handlers/GetPhoto.ashx?id=4791264&full=true
Booostin
12-17-2011, 12:24 PM
sitting pretty
Nice!
Booostin
03-30-2012, 08:26 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wkq4GQePf-o&feature=related
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