Vid...trying to run over cop, getting launched from van and beaten senseless

[jonjon72]

All in one video! :bang


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uN41h0GEmys&feature=player_embedded

[boyracer]

WTF!!!! That was crazy! I thought that cop was a goner!

[Thrizzl3]

WOW! he didn't even move after being ejected from the car and the cop just gave it to him...

[aris]

Link?

[Shawn]

Crazy, And the beat all... The Cops got fired.

[boyracer]

There was that one cop that just kept on swinging at what I assume was his head. That was ridiculous!

[jonjon72]

Link?

Here you go buddy

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uN41h0GEmys&feature=player_embedded

[aris]

Wtf is up with these cops... I'm glad they got fired


Here you go buddy

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uN41h0GEmys&feature=player_embedded

Thanks Jon

[JaYson]

although the cops should be "the bigger person" (for a lack of betters words) because they are cops. If it was me, and someone tried to run over a family member or friend of mine...i'd beat the living sh*t out of them even if they JUST got ejected from a car, too...lol just sayin

[aris]

although the cops should be "the bigger person" (for a lack of betters words) because they are cops. If it was me, and someone tried to run over a family member or friend of mine...i'd beat the living sh*t out of them even if they JUST got ejected from a car, too...lol just sayin


I would agree with you but doing that to a guy who is not moving is uncalled for...

[Hoodzy]

When you make a conscious decision to run from the police you deserve a good beating. The so called punishment for fleeing from the cops is nothing compared to what those scum buckets deserve.

For those who don't agree with me. I want you to imagine someone hits a family member of yours and puts them in a hospital or kills them. They run from the police and get the good ole 2 years in Canada for manslaughter. You are cool with them getting that 'punishment.' I really doubt it.. You'd probably want to beat the crap out of them yourself let alone having an officer step in and beat the guy a few times on the head conscious or not.

[Thrizzl3]

When you make a conscious decision to run from the police you deserve a good beating. The so called punishment for fleeing from the cops is nothing compared to what those scum buckets deserve.

For those who don't agree with me. I want you to imagine someone hits a family member of yours and puts them in a hospital or kills them. They run from the police and get the good ole 2 years in Canada for manslaughter. You are cool with them getting that 'punishment.' I really doubt it.. You'd probably want to beat the crap out of them yourself let alone having an officer step in and beat the guy a few times on the head conscious or not.

true but the guy just got ejected from a car...i'm pretty sure he was injured from that...the beatings he received after weren't really necessary.

so i'm running from the cops (you) and i crash my vehicle and i'm ejected from it...i am in obvious pain..are you really going to lay a pounding on me..?

[Fuyuzora]

They run from the police and get the good ole 2 years in Canada for manslaughter. You are cool with them getting that 'punishment.' I really doubt it..

Semi-hijack here but...

My personal feeling on the matter is that, even if I'd want them to get a harsher sentence/beating/whatever, the country's absolute crime rate is more important than any individual's appetite for retribution.

For example, if criminology suggests that putting a person under house arrest for 18 months for <insert questionable activity here> is more effective at reducing the crime rate than throwing them in the slammer for 5 years like the victim's family wants, then the former makes more sense, even if it's frustrating to the family.

If someone still wants their sense of "retribution" despite the fact it may mean pursing flawed policies which will only create more victims down the line, that's only marginally different from committing the crimes themselves. Society needs to come before the individual in this kind of case, IMHO.

*cue lively debate*

[aris]

true but the guy just got ejected from a car...i'm pretty sure he was injured from that...the beatings he received after weren't really necessary.

so i'm running from the cops (you) and i crash my vehicle and i'm ejected from it...i am in obvious pain..are you really going to lay a pounding on me..?

Exactly

[The Wolf]

Dude not only ran from the cops, he TRIED TO KILL ONE. I'm a little surprised they jumped on someone who wasn't moving... But this guy deserves about as much mercy as he was he was showing the cop who threw the spike strip. I am completely satisfied with how this was handled, lol

Also, to comment on Fuzyora's statement, I think it's equally important to lower the overall crime rate and to reduce the rate at which criminals reoffend. That being said, I feel it's important that crominals pay a fair price for their crimes. I don't think house arrest or 2 years (usually commuted to time-served) for manslaughter while running from police is fair.

[PCLoadLetter]

I'll be honest...jonjon's signature took my attention away from the video :D

[jonjon72]

I'll be honest...jonjon's signature took my attention away from the video :D

ROFL

[zzz3]

WOW! he didn't even move after being ejected from the car and the cop just gave it to him...

not making an opinion here (or condoning retribution), but if you try to kill a cop, you are in for a smack down. i wouldn't be surprised if he gets the shit kicked out him by the c.o's in jail as well. i guess its also to send a message to other criminals that trying to kill a cop wont be condoned or tolerated in anyway.


I'll be honest...jonjon's signature took my attention away from the video :D

haha i was wondering the same thing? i am the only one watching his signature lol

[runner2k]

although the cops should be "the bigger person" (for a lack of betters words) because they are cops. If it was me, and someone tried to run over a family member or friend of mine...i'd beat the living sh*t out of them even if they JUST got ejected from a car, too...lol just sayin

Relax, Relax JaYson! Breath my friend. Breath...

You just won the Mazda Navigator...

LOL

[XTOTHEL]

I think they were pounding him for not wearing his seat belt :)

[ElectroJay]

Dude not only ran from the cops, he TRIED TO KILL ONE. I'm a little surprised they jumped on someone who wasn't moving... But this guy deserves about as much mercy as he was he was showing the cop who threw the spike strip. I am completely satisfied with how this was handled, lol

Also, to comment on Fuzyora's statement, I think it's equally important to lower the overall crime rate and to reduce the rate at which criminals reoffend. That being said, I feel it's important that crominals pay a fair price for their crimes. I don't think house arrest or 2 years (usually commuted to time-served) for manslaughter while running from police is fair.

Exactly! That's attempted murder right there!

[Peter]

although the cops should be "the bigger person" (for a lack of betters words) because they are cops. If it was me, and someone tried to run over a family member or friend of mine...i'd beat the living sh*t out of them even if they JUST got ejected from a car, too...lol just sayin

+1 agree with you buddy still thats messed up

[aris]

What if the guy tried to kill us and we beat the shit out of him while he lays their after being in a major accident... You think the cops would high 5 us if wr did that.. Prabally not.


We be lucky if they didn't send us to jail.

[Y.B]

I think cops just abuse their power way too much and that just a clear illustration of it. Regardless if he ran over a cop or killed someone, the cops dont have the right to beat the guy after he got launched out of the car like that. If we live with the mentality that we should beat up someone just because they killed/hurt a family member or because they did something wrong, alot more of us would be in jail :P the law stops us from doing stuff like, so cops shouldnt be any different.

[The Wolf]

I think cops just abuse their power way too much and that just a clear illustration of it. Regardless if he ran over a cop or killed someone, the cops dont have the right to beat the guy after he got launched out of the car like that. If we live with the mentality that we should beat up someone just because they killed/hurt a family member or because they did something wrong, alot more of us would be in jail :P the law stops us from doing stuff like, so cops shouldnt be any different.

Agree somewhat. The officers on the video do deserve punishment for what they did as well. Obviously as law enforcement, you commit yourself to upholding the law, at great risk to your own safety sometimes. Comes with the territory. At the same time, these are human beings with human emotions and that gets the better of everyone sometimes. Bottom line, I don't blame the cops for beating on this dude one bit, but I also do not argue that they shouldn't have done it and they should face consequences.
It that makes sense haha.

Also, we've all seen police beatings go on much longer than this one. Looks like once it hit them that they were beating an injured man, they stopped.

[Rob23]

im glad he got beaten senseless from the crash and from the cops. the guy tries to run over the cop full on, trying to kill the cop. if he is paralized i wouldn't feel bad for him its what he deserves.

[greaves82]

Were the cops in the wrong for doing what they did, yes. If it were me, and someone tried to run me or a family member over, would I do what the cops did??? almost certain.

[queens49]

I remember watching some documentary or something, and they talked about the adrenaline that the cops get when involved in a police chance. Everything is all amped up, and they get aggressive. It's one of the reasons why they call off police chases. They also talked about how it's actually safer for cops to patrol on their own. If a cop is alone, they are more willing to wait for backup before going into a dangerous situation.

[greaves82]

I remember watching some documentary or something, and they talked about the adrenaline that the cops get when involved in a police chance. Everything is all amped up, and they get aggressive. It's one of the reasons why they call off police chases. They also talked about how it's actually safer for cops to patrol on their own. If a cop is alone, they are more willing to wait for backup before going into a dangerous situation.

Thats so true. I did a ride along with a police department (not going to name it) and we were responding to a call and you could see the adrenaline in the officers when we got there. Unfortunately its human nature.

[mazda_gurl]

So dude tries to outrun the cops and almost clips an officer who at the very last minute, decided to throw down a spike strip when the car was right there? And because of this officers actions, deserved that beating that he took?

Sorry - I disagree. Let the courts do the justice. Guy got 20 years for that close call. There was no reason for all of them to gang up on him after he was just ejected from the car. He wasnt even resisting arrest.

The argument about this man hitting a family member or loved one is irrelevant. It didnt happen. No matter what the actions or the outcome were, the police do not need to take matters into their own hands. That should have been left for the courts.

An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind. Just sayin

[Hoodzy]

An eye for an eye makes everyone pirates (which is cool)

However letting a criminal take about 2-10 different eyeballs throughout his lifetime makes the world much more blind.

[The Wolf]

Running from the police in your SUV = resisting arrest. Officer throwing a spike strip = following orders. I highly doubt he was sitting there sipping coffee thinking "You know what would be neat? Throwin out a spike strip." This isn't Need For Speed where the spike strip is deployed a mile ahead of you on the road, this is how it's done.

[mazda_gurl]

Running from the police in your SUV = resisting arrest.

I was talking about when they finally caught up to him.

[The Wolf]

I know. I was just sayin'.

I would be singing a COMPLETELY different tune if the driver was simply trying to escape. All bets are off in my head when you try to take someone's life.

This debate reminds me of a justice system thought up by comedian Keith Malley. It's basically one strike and you're dead. You kill someone, you die. You steal something, you're dead. You speed, it's lights out. Wouldn't take long to significantly reduce crime, wouldn't you say? Haha

[Booostin]

Big deal, they beat on the guy because of what he did.. its not like he felt it anyway cus he was out lol

This fuqqer had it coming, he put innocent lives in danger and almost killed a cop. Too bad he did not die when he was ejected from the vehicle.....

[Dave_The_BMXER]

Were they upholding the law or retaliating?

[JaYson]

lol im not saying its "okay" or "Justified" in any way, and like i said, police should be held and should hold themselves up to a higher standard than the rest of the general population (because their purpose is to uphold the law and maintain it)

all im saying is that given the situation, and if they tried to run over a family member and or friend. i would beat them senseless, idealy while they are conscious obviously.

and again, i would be in teh wrong regardless of whether they are conscious or not, but nonetheless: a hurting should be laid down on people who have no regard for their fellow human beings.


also, keeping in mind the driver (who got ejected and beaten) who tried to run over the officer laying down the spike strip; do you think the driver would/was showing the same respect and regard for the officer, that "you're" suggesting everyone should show for him?

(not that it should be an eye for an eye situation, but just for the sake of discussion)

[aris]

lol im not saying its "okay" or "Justified" in any way, and like i said, police should be held and should hold themselves up to a higher standard than the rest of the general population (because their purpose is to uphold the law and maintain it)

all im saying is that given the situation, and if they tried to run over a family member and or friend. i would beat them senseless, idealy while they are conscious obviously.

and again, i would be in teh wrong regardless of whether they are conscious or not, but nonetheless: a hurting should be laid down on people who have no regard for their fellow human beings.


also, keeping in mind the driver (who got ejected and beaten) who tried to run over the officer laying down the spike strip; do you think the driver would/was showing the same respect and regard for the officer, that "you're" suggesting everyone should show for him?

(not that it should be an eye for an eye situation, but just for the sake of discussion)

If the guy was fully concions and the beat the hell out of him is one thing..but the guy is uncouncions so why bother? Just cause he tryed to "kill" a cop does not mean that they should beat the hell out of the guy when he is unconcion...This is a cops job...Danger is part of it and they know it.

What about the guy who stole the snow plow truck in the GTA area and killed the cop? did the police beat the crap out of him? nope

[Y.B]

Actually capital punishment hasn't served as a deterant of crime. Just look at the states, they have capital punishment and they're crime rates are substantially higher then canada's.

[aris]

Actually capital punishment hasn't served as a deterant of crime. Just look at the states, they have capital punishment and they're crime rates are substantially higher then canada's.

states is way bigger then Canada

[Y.B]

Crime rate isn't based on the population as a whole but rather per 100 000 or 1000 people. So for instance in canada the homicide rate would be at 5 out of 100, in the states its 20 out of 100. That's the comparison.

[aris]

Crime rate isn't based on the population as a whole but rather per 100 000 or 1000 people. So for instance in canada the homicide rate would be at 5 out of 100, in the states its 20 out of 100. That's the comparison.

oh..didn't know that

[Dave_The_BMXER]

also, keeping in mind the driver (who got ejected and beaten) who tried to run over the officer laying down the spike strip; do you think the driver would/was showing the same respect and regard for the officer, that "you're" suggesting everyone should show for him?



One is a criminal, one is a person doing their job, that job is to serve and protect no? At the point where he was ejected and on the side of the road KO'd who were they protecting and who were they serving?


Say this person had a mental issue (lets just say) and they were off their meds for whatever reason and not acting in a manner they can be held responsible for. They were then beat senseless and now eat through a straw for actions they don't remember?

/devilsadvocate.

[JaYson]

again, im not saying its teh right thing to do.
noone knows what they will do or how they will act until they are put in that particular scenario.


all i know is that I do not feel sorry for that guy at all, he deserved what was coming to him. if he wanted a nice quite arrest he shouldnt have tried to make a run for it and he def. should not have tried to plow down a cop.

and who knows, maybe he was unconscious, maybe he wasn't. he was likely very hurt, but you dont know what could have been happening from the viewpoint of the cops approaching, maybe he was moving slightly in a manner which would suggest he was reaching slowly for something in his pocket (lets say a gun) which may be why the first cop jumped on him and beat him with the baton. (far fetched, but not impossible. especialy considering he obvoiusly has no regard for other people, i would not take a chance approaching that guy and give him the opporunity to pull out a gun)

i'll give it to you that the cop later on who was filling him in teh face was def. over board lol


edit: yeah i just watched the video again, and he's totally KO'd lol.... again, they SHOULDNT have done it...but i dont feel bad for him. if anything hes lucky he wasnt awake to feel the beating.

[The Wolf]

Say Your job is in customer service. You are required to be polite and helpful at all times, no matter what the situation. One day a person comes into your store, and begins berating you, swearing, even threatens to become violent. You take exception to this, and cease to serve and be polite to that person. You get angry, you yell back. You are now no longer performing your job properly. You're violating store policy. Are you wrong to do so? Technically, yes. But do I blame you, not one bit.

[Hoodzy]

People who come into stores and treat the employees like garbage deserve to be smacked across the face.
Just because you are performing a service does not mean that it gives someone the right to verbally abuse you.

When you stop acting like a human being you deserve to be treated that way.

[Hoodzy]

Plus saying that capital punishment doesn't deter crime is nonsense.. There are a majority of factors as to why the crime rate is higher in the states. Mainly societal and overall economic reasons which lead people to do things they do. Plus social services which are designed to help reduce crime rates.

[Y.B]

Its actually not nonsense. Statistics prove that countries that impose capital punishment, have higher crime rates then those who dont.


Plus saying that capital punishment doesn't deter crime is nonsense.. There are a majority of factors as to why the crime rate is higher in the states. Mainly societal and overall economic reasons which lead people to do things they do. Plus social services which are designed to help reduce crime rates.

[seelsy]

my plain and simple response, did the guy deserve it... yes absolutely, do I blame the cops for what they did....absolutely not, should they have been fired for their actions.....absolutely. I don't blame them for their reaction, however, in a job such as theirs, beating an unconscious person for any such reason leads me to believe that they can't disconnect their emotions from their position, (even though as humans this is almost impossible to do) which is not someone I want carrying a gun for a career. My simple opinion :)

[5_Alive]

Homeboy was running and tried to hit the officer. He missed, but the Police didn't. Good for them. I'd have beat his ass too..
I find it funny that the one officer runs out and shuts the camera off, that was great!

On a serious note.. If you were to try something like that say, in perhaps the middle east, lets say Dubai, or Saudi Arabia, you would cease to exist.
Zero tolerance countries are fantastic when it comes to crime and punishment. Commit a crime, you get @$$fu&ked! Its the way it should be.
The officers being fired was a little too much IMO, but it is what it is.

[Hoodzy]

Its actually not nonsense. Statistics prove that countries that impose capital punishment, have higher crime rates then those who dont.

Statistical Correlation DOES NOT EQUAL Causation

Also one could assume that countries who already have high crime rates allow for capital punishment in an attempt to combat it.

[ZeroChalk]

The guy was wreckless clearly endangering everyone's lives (cops and the general public)... I wouldn't be surprised if someone accidently forgot to call the paramedics... and instead perhaps go out for lunch.

[JaYson]

Statistical Correlation DOES NOT EQUAL Causation

Also one could assume that countries who already have high crime rates allow for capital punishment in an attempt to combat it.

I was just about to bring up the same point.

[RetroLite]

Did not deserve the beating.

[JaYson]

That cop didnt get fired lets be honest he probably received a suspension with pay just like all the other cops that have done bad things and an investigation was pending. Same old, if the punishment system should be harsher for civilians than it should be harsher for everyone including cops. The guy didnt deserve a beating at all and for a group of cops to just go to town at him not just one cop hitting him goes to show. He didnt hit the cop with the car so was that really necessary? I thought the whole point of being a cop is that you have to take risks... no? Serve and Protect? They were def protection that guy by beating his brains in.

Just my 2 cents.

lol he didn't actually hit the cop. but he DID attempt to splatter the cops brains all over his windshield.

i do agree that cops should be held to a higher standard that civilians for obvious reasons.

i believe he did deserve a beating; a beating in the way it happened in the videos? probably not. but nonetheless i still dont feel sorry for the idiot

[Y.B]

Youre right statistics isn't a causation, but mere a observation of the population.


Statistical Correlation DOES NOT EQUAL Causation

Also one could assume that countries who already have high crime rates allow for capital punishment in an attempt to combat it.