Hannah has been grounded...............

[SirWanker]

http://youtu.be/QtDzckYltY8

Its really hard to say who is more at fault here, the lazy daughter or the parents who failed to instill any values in their child.

[Fobio]

I was talking to co-workers about this. I can't really comment on the scoial aspect of it, but I hope the idiocy and lack of intelligence reveals itself...as it always does in most things about life.

The side that I find interesting is how LinkedIn and Facebook are "linked" in the news...kinda like Apple and RIM, in terms of their corporate presence...btw, LinkedIn is up $13USD today or 16%.

The conversation was about how with all the "IRL" incidents that Facebook is facing (there was also a double homicide by a dad, whose adult age 30-yr-old daughter was unfriended by another couple, so he shot them), there may come some form of social backlash, and its stock may suffer...

Whereas with LinkedIn, not many ppl get offended by some other dudes' resume...online or "IRL".

[Default User]

no volume on my work PC - so I cant get whats going on.

I did read about this on CP24.com
From the brief story - I side with the .45 LOL

kids nowadays expect to get the easy life, because all their friends do.
From the sound of it - this "dad" is the only one that is actually doing anything to discipline his child (probably unlike all her friends' parents)

And with social media - kids being kids, they easily post stupidness purposely so that other people see. Not realizing the kind of backlash that is associated with it
just the other day, a friend of mine saw pics on his nieces FB page, kissing her boyfriend that's holding a big blunt. Shes 14 years old.

I mean, What would you do?

[Thrizzl3]

Girl needs to realize that without her parents she wouldn't have a place to stay.

Talking shit about your parents thinking that they won't find out what your saying has completely backfired and bit this girl in the ass. Ok so yea the shooting of the laptop was a bit much but hey you run your mouth and pay the consequences.

Saying that you're a slave to your parents is sooo damnn stupid. I clean around my house...everyday. I don't think i am a slave :S Whoever this girl is thinks that she is the shiznit but this video clearly shows that she is nothing but a selfish child that needs to be taught a lesson the hard way. fakkk after watching this video i hope she has the decency to find a job and give her parents the respect they deserve.

[DualSoul]

fakkk after watching this video i hope she has the decency to find a job and give her parents the respect they deserve.

Wishful thinking.

[Cab0oze]

I agree that the kid was out of line, and I support the dad with his video and all, but shooting the laptop was just immature/stupid of him.

[malfunktion]

This dad seems like a douche.

Sounds like this little girl does a lot and she doesnt seem old lol. she comes home every day washes dishes counters floors, does the beds.. and does trash 5am-10pm day sounds shitty for a young kid.

thats enough. lol. **** this ******* dad.

"if i just clean the floors and you walk in with mud on your shoes, be my guest but you clean it up"

thats a fair statement.


just cause she vented online about her stresses doesn't mean shes unappreciative ( the daughter).

Dumb video all in all!

[Default User]

A laptop I'm sure her parents bought her anyway.

Growing up, I had chores. I was taught to be responsible, and respectful. It's a core value I teach my daughter, (and my future children) and will teach to my nephews, and god-children

Nowadays, I see kids without any values and I can't help but shake my head in disgust. I actually see children yell back at their parents - something that I would get a belt (or slipper) for saying

[boyracer]

LOL, it's kinda funny what he did. I mean, being a cowboy from the south/ mid west USA, I'm pretty confident that he would have installed values in his daughter (of course I could be wrong). I have this feeling that she was easily influenced by her friends and just had a terrible attitude.... again, I'm just guessing

[peterm15]

I'm 26 now and to this day if I don't hold the door open for a woman my dad will slap me across the head.

When I was 20 I swore in the presence of my mother ( working on construction with my father swearing is part of everyday convo) and got physically thrown out of my house.

I've bought all my own stuff since I was 10. Clothes, school supplies, comps, everything

It's not to say my parents weren't good to me, they were very generous. But my sister got it all, a car, school paid for, clothes until she moved out ( at 25 with her now hubby, I moved out the same year at 20) although I did get other things like later curfew, and some other stuff I can't think of. But I worked hard for that stuff.

Basically what I'm getting at is when it comes to families girls get it easy ( not always) they get babied and spoiled ( most of my friends are girls as well and it's the same story).

Spoiled people think everyone owes them something. If I was that father I would have done the same thing. And probably thought of homeschooling. Punish her till she learns.

[Shinglez]

Bottom line, I laughed.

[Fobio]

A laptop I'm sure her parents bought her anyway.

Growing up, I had chores. I was taught to be responsible, and respectful. It's a core value I teach my daughter, (and my future children) and will teach to my nephews, and god-children

Nowadays, I see kids without any values and I can't help but shake my head in disgust. I actually see children yell back at their parents - something that I would get a belt (or slipper) for saying

It seems that we both grew up from the generation, where it doesn't matter where you came from, you act right. Period. Values, manners, respect and appreciation for things. All these things are falling by the wayside for the sake of speed, satisfaction, and an undeserved sense of entitltement with the current generation.

Which is surprising, since you call me a douche for trying to enforce these values here on TM3. Perhaps we can combine our efforts...as opposed to whatever it is now.


I'm 26 now and to this day if I don't hold the door open for a woman my dad will slap me across the head.

When I was 20 I swore in the presence of my mother ( working on construction with my father swearing is part of everyday convo) and got physically thrown out of my house.

I've bought all my own stuff since I was 10. Clothes, school supplies, comps, everything

It's not to say my parents weren't good to me, they were very generous. But my sister got it all, a car, school paid for, clothes until she moved out ( at 25 with her now hubby, I moved out the same year at 20) although I did get other things like later curfew, and some other stuff I can't think of. But I worked hard for that stuff.

Basically what I'm getting at is when it comes to families girls get it easy ( not always) they get babied and spoiled ( most of my friends are girls as well and it's the same story).

Spoiled people think everyone owes them something. If I was that father I would have done the same thing. And probably thought of homeschooling. Punish her till she learns.

This is a funny and interesting perspective...lol...I mean when I was growing up, I always thought my girl cousins got it easy. I also always wondered why some dads prefer girls...

2 things...

Girls tend to stick with family...and a aging father always wants at least one child around...and it's not like your dad can show you the same type of affection, and being old school, respect for women is paramount.

secondly, all dads are worried that their girl will be mistreated and under-appreciated. it is very common for asian fathers to purposely spoil their daughter so that they get used to the preferential treatment and will choose a man that will cater to her, rather than the other way round. to a certain extent, I kinda agree with that, buit with limits. you can imagine how if it went wrong,as it often does, how it'll turn out.

I delivered pizza, chop-suey and worked at the bowling alley @ 16. Kids need to learn the value of things at a young age...and it's unfortunate that the luxury the previous generation can now afford for the current generation are making most them soft.

[dentinger]

http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w65/dentinger/trolldad.jpg

[boyracer]

@Fabio the phrase "sense of entitlement" that you used. BANG Right on the head.. couldn't agree more. This lost generation have been catered to in every which way and believe that they have rights and should be treated on the same level as their parents. I've had this discussion many times, somewhere in the 90's these soccer moms stopped parenting and allowed the sony playstations & the x-boxes to do that for them. This lost generation have become so lippy, that if you try to bring it to their attention you'll not only get a earful of curse words from "little Blair" but his Mom will give you a piece of her mind as well.

Back in the day, if I caused some shite, not only would you get it from the neighbor but then my mom would beat the crap out off me for being an idiot and disturbing him or her.

so angry that my rant is all over the place

[vinnierap]

Kids these days, boy or girl have very little respect and values. I know `kids`who are 17, 18, 19. and still dont have a job. This whole generation has a sense of entitlement and expect everything to be handed to them.

There are the exceptions of course but as a generalization they are all lazy.

[Hoodzy]

He sounds like a DBAG.. also posting this video just exemplifies that assumption. I wouldn't be surprised if he does make her make coffee and pour it for him. He sounds like a hillbilly slave driver. Also the kid sounds quite bratty so who's to blame on both accounts? He is. Fail parenting.

[The Wolf]

USA - "We don't like it, we shoot it."

[Burner]

USA - "We don't like it, we shoot it."

I like that idea actually!

[peterm15]

He sounds like a DBAG...
At first I thought the same thing. But after watching the full thing twice I'm pretty sure he has a stutter.

[Hoodzy]

At first I thought the same thing. But after watching the full thing twice I'm pretty sure he has a stutter.

LOL.. I don't mean how he is physically talking I mean what he is talking about and his tone and moral as a human being. Also just because he does have a stutter doesn't mean he isn't a dbag.

[peterm15]

Well the stutter made him sound like it to me. Lol. I still personally agree with him.

[krimsalt]

Well.. Here is my $0.02. It stems from a Psychological approach...

There are many unanswered variables, but I will fill them in using a bit of stereotyping. Based on the location of the family, the father has raised this child as most likely "his little princess", however she often finds he can be more of the "Bowser" attitude (Mario Bros. reference). The little girl, from birth (as all people do), absorbs her father's attitude. His irrationality to attack such things he does not understand or believe is CLEARLY and 100% shown in her irrational message on Facebook.
The little girl grows up believing she is daddy's little girl. Let's face it; most daughters have the father wrapped around their fingers. It's starting to be a physiological aspect of parent vs. child.
If you tell a princess to do chores, face it, you will get rebelled against. Judging by the girls possessive nature of all things materialistic - she got what she wanted. In her brain, a common misconception amongst MANY youths is going on; "despite that I did not buy it, or work for it, it is still mine." (A good reason to always let your kids do some form of earnship at a young age, even if doing their only dish at the end of dinner earns them a new toy set for example).
But staying on topic here. Her outrage against the father in the form of the letter is not her fault, it stems from a confused ideology while growing up. She vented to the outside world as well because she deems her father, which is clearly demonstrated, unworthy to handle her frustration (another reason parents should always be willing and cooperative with even the menial of a child's concern).
The father reacted harshly, and was imature. His harshness is not wrong however, but he could have easily explained his feelings to the child so that she can see him as another human, rather than a force of authority - this will allow the child to reason with her behaviour and be more effective than screaming and yelling. What he did will cause worse side effects in the future.

This is why I will not cater to my child. They will always perform some task of earning what they want. Even if it's do the dishes or clean your room. Our brains adapt to how people treat us, and the younger we are, the more we absord and the harder it is to remove idealogies and idiocyncracies that get lodged in there. It all starts from picking up your baby EVERY time they cry - they know you are their puppet even at that point.

That's my $0.02

[The Wolf]

^ BINGO.

Daddy told her she was a princess and then threw a tantrum when she believed him.

[GWN]

Kids these days, boy or girl have very little respect and values. I know `kids`who are 17, 18, 19. and still dont have a job. This whole generation has a sense of entitlement and expect everything to be handed to them.

There are the exceptions of course but as a generalization they are all lazy.

As a 19 year old student, I almost take offence to you generalizing my generation as "lazy."
Since when does not having a job make you lazy? Since I was 11, I've done freelance web design, graphic design, 3D modelling, etc. all for free, because it was something I was passionate about and enjoyed doing. I started getting paid for my 3D modelling services this summer, are you calling me lazy because I didn't have a "job" 2 years ago?

And saying we have "very little respect and values" is a seriously bold statement. Care to elaborate? Do I not respect people in general, or just you? Are my values simply warped because I was born in the 90's?

And that last sentence isn't a free pass to generalize my entire generation, saying "there are exceptions" doesn't get you off the hook. Most of my friends do have jobs, we all respect people we meet as well as our parents, and I'd say our values aren't as off centre as you might think.

So please, elaborate on how little respect and warped values I have.

[dentinger]

As a 19 year old student, I almost take offence to you generalizing my generation as "lazy."


i thought people in ontario were lazy, until i moved here.
some of the kids at my job will miss shift, after shift, show up here and there, slack off whenever, and somehow still have a job. something will break, and they'll toss is aside and use something else.
kids here have it super easy.

[Hoodzy]

I've had a job since I was 15 and I honestly don't know why I put up with so much crap from my jobs. I have never called in sick in my entire life and I've personally always given the 2 weeks notice and all that jazz just because I am professional.
However when you work your ass off as I have and want to ask for a raise so I am making slightly better than min wage you get shat on by cheapo companies who are basically using you for the cheapest labour they can get. So I don't really hold it against some kids who don't really give a crappy job as a priority. Especially when they don't have bills that need to be paid.

[STeeLy]

There's a follow up, if you guys haven't read it yet.

He basically answers questions from the media and explains his actions.

Link: http://www.litefm.com/cc-common/mainheadlines3.html?feed=421220&article=9744152

[FoXy]

I agree with him. Teens these days have too much of a sense of entitlement. But all things aside... its not ALL teens, just the ones with parents who slack and spoil their kids and let them do whatever they want. There are still some hard working kids. But those shitty kids rub off on the ones with good parents and make those kids wonder why if they can have everything, why can'e thye too... unfortunately it doesn't work like that. You get what you get with parents, deal with it. Too many snotty brats out there, and wannabe skater gangsters. Those "cool" kids will end up working for you one day, or end up on welfare lol

I wouldnt shoot it... I would sell it. Or give it away lol

[krimsalt]

As a 19 year old student, I almost take offence to you generalizing my generation as "lazy."
Since when does not having a job make you lazy? Since I was 11, I've done freelance web design, graphic design, 3D modelling, etc. all for free, because it was something I was passionate about and enjoyed doing. I started getting paid for my 3D modelling services this summer, are you calling me lazy because I didn't have a "job" 2 years ago?

And saying we have "very little respect and values" is a seriously bold statement. Care to elaborate? Do I not respect people in general, or just you? Are my values simply warped because I was born in the 90's?

And that last sentence isn't a free pass to generalize my entire generation, saying "there are exceptions" doesn't get you off the hook. Most of my friends do have jobs, we all respect people we meet as well as our parents, and I'd say our values aren't as off centre as you might think.

So please, elaborate on how little respect and warped values I have.

As a 21 year old full-time worker, hoping to soon return to school once savings have incured, I fully agree with this (my) generation being "lazy".. There are a few exceptions (you probably fit alongside I, judging by your post), that I call the "was born 40 years too late" group. But I refer to my post #22 again in saying that this generation is the first who grew up with a silver platter under their noses. You and I ARE exceptions my friends.

Maybe one day I'll publish my thoughts on the "Idiotic Idiocyncracies of the Ignorant and Ill=Informed" lol.

[The Wolf]

Kids these days, boy or girl have very little respect and values. I know `kids`who are 17, 18, 19. and still dont have a job. This whole generation has a sense of entitlement and expect everything to be handed to them.

There are the exceptions of course but as a generalization they are all lazy.

How do you think these kids got so entitled? You can't blame the kids for that, not for one second. To blame an entire culture shift on kids who are just now old enough to understand things like consequences, ethics, finances and morality is just silly. Take a look at the global financial situation and tell me why kids these days are to blame for expecting everything to be handed to them.

You want to change the world? Start at home.

Also, not everyone buys into the notion that happiness and success = wealth. I have a lot of friends who are happy doing freelance art/skateboarding/film etc, fully conscious of the fact that it will not make them rich.

[Default User]

Very true. But easier said than done

I don't spoil my child. She actually understands she can't have everything she asks for. Not to say she doesn't pout or sometimes even act up at the store. It's hard not wanting to give your only child everything. Especially when growing up, you had nothing. But that's between us in our home

Unfortunately, there is still (or going to be) the influence of her friends that are getting spoiled at their home.

You also have grandparents, god-parents, uncles and aunts that want to give your kid everything. This is especially hard since my wife has a HUGE family.

Then you have media showing 16 year olds getting brand new Lexus' and iPhones for their birthday.

What scares me though, are the closet-spoilers. The ones that don't realize that giving their kids everything is actually hurting them in the long run. The ones that don't believe they are spoiling their kids.

I comment on my nephews, nieces, and god-kids when their parents buy big gifts for them. I mean, does a 7 year old really need a 42" plasma, a Wii, and an XBox? Do grade 9 students really need a blackberry?

[krimsalt]

What scares me though, are the closet-spoilers. The ones that don't realize that giving their kids everything is actually hurting them in the long run. The ones that don't believe they are spoiling their kids.

I comment on my nephews, nieces, and god-kids when their parents buy big gifts for them. I mean, does a 7 year old really need a 42" plasma, a Wii, and an XBox? Do grade 9 students really need a blackberry?

This phrase sums up the degredation of human life as we know it

[Stoked]

http://youtu.be/NCgW30t1-u4
Ahaha totally reminds me of that clip, accept girl....


Aside from that I totally agree with the fathers actions, she had it coming, but really, who is to blame in this situation?

When it comes down to it, I think everything is rooted in society. You might even blame child laziness on economic success of developed countries. Things aren't like they used to be at all, North America is becoming more and more predominantly a Quaternary sector of the economy so children are growing up with completely different values from generation to generation as things progress.

So in essence, I guess it does come down to raising a child properly but how are you supposed to keep you children from succumbing to societal views? Everyone wants their child to grow up and have a good job so they don't have to work hard, but what's wrong with working hard? Her father had a great attitude shifter that he gave her, shouldn't have treated the cleaning lady so harshly. In my opinion that's a clear example of a Quaternary sector shift where hard work carries a socially negative stigma.

[The Wolf]

Good points. We have made hard work something to look down on. Like you're a failiure if you have to expel energy. My previous post was pretty hard on parents, but I failed to recognize the impact the media and friends can have on a person.
When my dad was a kit, he knew that if he stepped out of line, my grandpa would whip his ass. Fast-forward 30 years and he'd get arrested for doing the same to me. Fast-forward another 30 years, and who knows... I might someday get my children taken away for unplugging the TV.

I think a lot of the societal shift has to do with the Baby Boomers, and their reactions to America's new-found prosperity (post Great Depression and WWII). Suddenly the entire continent was able to live in a world filled with excess, and free from want. The country and its economy changed, but attitudes carried over to succeeding generations, and now people think they deserve everything their parents own (a house, nice car, all the toys) as soon as they hit 18.

[tweak_s]

Very true. But easier said than done

I don't spoil my child. She actually understands she can't have everything she asks for. Not to say she doesn't pout or sometimes even act up at the store. It's hard not wanting to give your only child everything. Especially when growing up, you had nothing. But that's between us in our home

Unfortunately, there is still (or going to be) the influence of her friends that are getting spoiled at their home.

You also have grandparents, god-parents, uncles and aunts that want to give your kid everything. This is especially hard since my wife has a HUGE family.

Then you have media showing 16 year olds getting brand new Lexus' and iPhones for their birthday.

What scares me though, are the closet-spoilers. The ones that don't realize that giving their kids everything is actually hurting them in the long run. The ones that don't believe they are spoiling their kids.

I comment on my nephews, nieces, and god-kids when their parents buy big gifts for them. I mean, does a 7 year old really need a 42" plasma, a Wii, and an XBox? Do grade 9 students really need a blackberry?

Definitely agree with this especially the last part. I mean there's exceptions, there's kids that actually a using the technology well. Working in electronic retail PT I see some kids work hard to learn and development skills in technology but there's others who come in knowing nothing but only what pop culture tells them. Had a father come in a week ago and ask about a macbook pro. He was concerned an i5 wasn't enough power for his daughter. Asked what she's using it for he's like "well just net kid stuff, typical 8 year old stuff you know? "

I'll admit I got some cool gadgets at a young age but it was a requirement that I a) worked hard in school b) researched and learned the product we before buying it to get the best use out of it (which helped me choose my career path really...) and c) IMO most importantly, my parents would explain how much hard work on the family's part had gone into this purchase, this made me always grateful and understand value. Because of that last part I actually seldom asked for things because I always weighed the pros and cons... And the cons normally won lol

[Default User]

I will admit this though - it is pretty cool as a parent to have a PS3 and a 42" plasma, but use your kid as a scape goat :D
you get to relive your childhood, through your own kid.

For instance - my buddy will (and has) bought a large screen plasma (51" IIRC), XBox and PS3 hooked up to a full 5.1 surround sound system for his 12 year old for X-Mas. His son is only allowed to use this equipment on weekends AND provided his homework and chores are done. But my buddy on the other hand, gets to use it everynight LOL.

A pretty good compromise if you ask me. My friend cannot wait until his son wants a mini-bike LOL